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Progressives Don’t Hate Ourselves
Writing in New York magazine, Jonathan Chait joins the chorus of Obama advocates decrying “self-loathing liberals” who criticize the president. Chait writes better than most, but he hews to the common theme that criticism of Obama isn’t justified by reality but instead reflects either political naivete or psychological imbalance. The argument gets it wrong, distorting the politics of the left and the realities of the country.
Chait admits that some “complaints [about Obama] are right,” but that isn’t why liberals are so depressed. Instead, liberals “are incapable of feeling satisfied with a Democratic president,” unlike conservatives, whose disappointment “is neither as incessant nor as pervasively depressed as the liberal variety.”
In a famous scene, the president told the 13 biggest bankers that he stood “between them and the pitchforks.”Chait then trips through liberal disappointment with every Democratic president from Roosevelt to Obama, admitting that although the aggravations were often justified, they demonstrate that liberals are congenitally depressed.
Proof positive comes from Obama’s first term, which Chait believes qualifies — riffing off a Chris Rock line — as “gangsta [expletive].” He ticks off the accomplishments: the Recovery Act, health care reform, financial reform, Race to the Top (which he bizarrely depicts as arguably the most significant reform of public education in U.S. history), college loans, renewable energy initiatives, all the way to the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, to which the president’s contribution was to refrain from vetoing it. “Of all the postwar presidents, only Johnson exceeds Obama’s domestic record,” he concludes.
That depends on what you measure. Obama became president in the midst of the worst recession since the Great Depression. He had a majority mandate for change, large Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress, the most progressive speaker, Nancy Pelosi, in the history of the country. Conservatism was in disarray, discredited by its evident failures at home and abroad. Obama put forward reforms in areas that the country must address, offering what can generously be considered pre-compromised proposals.
The biggest liberal groups in the country lined up to help pass his agenda. They stayed loyal even as his aides cut deals they found deplorable (sustaining the ban on Medicare negotiating bulk discounts on prescription drugs; abandoning the public option; buying off big oil, King Coal and virtually every energy lobby; opposing restructuring of the big banks). He faced unified Republican obstruction, not liberal opposition. Powerful corporate lobbies were able to purchase sufficient conservative Democrats – Blue Dogs, New Dems – to dilute, delay and sometimes defeat reform. Progressives in Congress criticized the limitations, but produced votes when it was time to get something passed.
Accomplishment can’t be measured by the passage of legislation but by whether it meets the challenge of the time. And here, it is inescapable that the combination of Republican obstruction and entrenched corporate lobbies blocked the reforms that we need. Some 26 million people remain in need of full-time work, and one-third of the country is in — or verges on — poverty. Some 50 million are uninsured, and millions more live one illness from bankruptcy. Big banks are more concentrated than ever, while nothing has been done for the one in four homes with mortgages that remain under water. College grows more unaffordable. The biggest reform in education is the funding carnage that is wiping out pre-school and after school programs, stuffing kids into classes of 35 or 45 students and laying off tens of thousands of skilled teachers.
If anything, Obama was hurt because progressives were too loyal rather than that they were too critical. Certainly that was the conclusion drawn by everyone from the AFL-CIO to Moveon.org to the activists of Occupy Wall Street. In a famous scene, the president told the 13 biggest bankers that he stood “between them and the pitchforks.” But there wasn’t sufficient evidence of an independent movement on the left – with or without pitchforks – to alarm the banksters. They scorned the president, took their bailouts, and continued to pay themselves obscene bonuses while returning to speculation as usual.
Chait’s contrast of conservatives to liberals is mythical. You’ll never see a scene within the Republican Party, Chait argues, like the 1968 Democratic convention. Perhaps. But Pat Buchanan’s insurgency and the Christian Right’s rhetoric and actions at the Republican Convention in 1992 contributed directly to the defeat of incumbent president George H.W. Bush. Conservatives have savaged Republican presidents from Eisenhower to Bush II. Even the now sainted Ronald Reagan was denounced for raising taxes and pushing disarmament, with leaders of the New Right openly writing about forming a third party. In fact, conservatives have been far more successful and brutal in punishing those they considered RINOS – Republicans In Name Only – as demonstrated by what conservative apostate David Frum accurately describes as the alternative reality the right now occupies.
Yes, liberals despaired at Clinton’s New Democrat retreats – from abandoning his investment agenda to deregulating banks to cutting the perverse trade deals with China and NAFTA. Yet when Clinton was facing impeachment, it was liberals who rallied to his defense. And even though progressives are justifiably disappointed with Obama’s centrist policies, there is little question that faced with the choice of Obama or Mitt Romney, they will stand with the president. And their choice may have greater weight with less-engaged voters because of their independent criticisms of the president.
Arguments like Chait’s are written as if it were 1992 and liberals were disappointed with a New Democratic president about to reap the benefits of the dot-com bubble. This is a very different time. Inequality has reached Gilded Age extremes. The middle class is sinking, and poverty is spreading. Catastrophic climate change is a clear and present danger. President Obama was right.
We need a transformational presidency, able to smash the failed, entrenched and corrupt politics of the center. That standard isn’t some perfectionism perennially demanded by disappointed liberals. It is required by the times. And what this nation desperately needs isn’t partisan unity, but a fierce and growing movement that will challenge not just the wing nuts of the right, but an establishment in both parties that has failed the country.




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Show AllThe Nation long ago stopped being progressive, and you hate people who are. More Democrat apologist nonsense from the Obama bandwagon.
Did you read the article?
I canceled my Nation subscription in 1996 and have generally disagreed with Katrina's viewpoints. But this article seems to indicate the start of a positive turn in her and The Nations viewpoints.
Hogwash: did you read the article? It is entirely slanted to present Obama as a victim of the "obstructionist Republicans." But nowhere is their recognition mcuh less acknowledgement that Obama was willing and eager participant in the entire process. It is too bad you cannot connect the dots. But then again, that was never your attention; you have been spouting your apologetic in thread after thread since you showed up here.
I'm amused by the hostility toward KVH expressed here. Yeah, granted she's not the card-carrying anti-capitalist leftist that CD posters adore ... but, dudes, the harsh reality is that Katrina is politically to the left of roughly 85% of the voters in the United States. Ergo, if Katrina's political stance doesn't cut it for you, good luck convincing the remaining 85% of Americans who sit to Katrina's right to rally around the Leftist Revolution. And 40% of THOSE folks are already brainwashed into thinking Obama is a "socialist". You either win over those voters and those battles person by person and neighborhood by neighborhood, or you spend your life in the hinterlands of the 15%, waiting for a socialist savior to emerge to lead us out of the wilderness ...
KvdH doesn't have any apparent political ideology other than providing cover for the dems and spinning political propaganda for Obama.
Despite the best efforts of the MSM to define consensus on many issues, polling reveals that the majority of Americans--no matter how they self-identify--are squarely on the Left from ending wars, to protecting Social Security, to the environment to health care reform that actually "went further".
So, you are just parroting the consensus they impose on you as truth.
Sucker.
I guess you and poor Karina would have us beleive that when Obama was elected that the Democrats DID NOT control all three branches of the government. They DID NOT NEED the Republicans, they were thwarted by their own party, if indeed one wants to buy into that fantasy. Rahter it was an excuse they used to conform to corporate hegemony on every issue. There is no real evidence otherwise.
Exactly.
Lets remember that every opportunity - starting with supporting lieberman vs the dem party candidate - Obama has supported Blue Dog dems.
It's not like Obama tried to govern as a progressive and was held back by the blue dogs.
Obama Actively governed as a Blue Dog and saved all his threats for progressive congressmen.
Where else are you f*#king retards gonna go was the obama admin response to trying to push him to the left.
She referred to Borat as a "centrist." Last I had check O's administration was an extension and expansion of Bush II's .... Centrist? Really KvdH?
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Rest assured Katrina VanDem Shill .... is still a damn Dem Shill.
hold it hold it
i thought the jews were the self-loathing ones
all i can be sure of is that mccain's wife - what's her name - has a pointy nose
as for kvh - she never saw a mirror she didn't love
neither has obummer for that matter
pretty good picture, though...
dig the leather look, and the way her lips match the background color...
I would love to see her in a mirror, too, for a couple of hours...
Hehehe :-D You are "self-loathing" if you admit to your mistakes/crimes/sins or those of a group you belong to and especially if you want to rectify them.
Please do not confuse vanden Heuvel's article with Chait's book.
Given Ms. vanden Heuvel's criticism of Obama one would then logically believe that she and her magazine would be supporting, and advocating for, a leftist third party candidate who could challenge Obama in 2012. But in all likelihood it would be extremely unlikely if The Nation would ever take such a radical position.
I agree. As a progressive, I have to say--I'm not voting for Obama again. Just look at the new Defence Bill. Indefinite detention of American citizens without due process. I'm sorry, but that's all I need to hear.Rand Paul had an eloquent rebuttle on the House floor yesterday. Or the extra-judicial killings of Americans overseas. I think the Patriot Act was, and is, the death knell to the Constitution. Habeas Corpus, enshrined in law for hundreds of years--out the window. No chance he gets my vote.
johnnyred -- Good comment. I would add that Obama gets a flat F on (not) holding the architects of torture accountable and going after WikiLeaks. Oh well, I could mention a bunch more, but those two alone clinch it for me. All I need is a name and I'll write it in; but it sure would be good if someone could at least make a small effort at organizing a campaign and getting on the ballot (as by using Americans Elect).
Having read KVH's articles in the past, I am rather surprised that she would turn 180 and write this article. However, I trust your instincts on KVH and "The Nation". We will have to see how KVH writes for nearly another year all the way to November 6, 2012. If she even keeps it this solid let alone write articles pushing harder to the left, then she might get a pink slip from "The Nation".
"though progressives are justifiably disappointed with Obama’s centrist policies, there is little question that faced with the choice of Obama or Mitt Romney, they will stand with the president"
And what would be gained by doing so? A pseudo democrat would be elected? How would that effect transformative change? And Obama is not a centrist...it's obvious he's a closeted republican.
This is not a team sport. We are electing the administrative head of our nation and society. He's seriously failed in the performance of his duties. Why then should we consider extending his term in office. He's proven a democrat can be even worse than a republican. If they are all going to be failures then why keep the same "lineup"?
Right, garden, there is so much wrong with that one statement. KVH is slyly misdireding with false premises and offensive presumptions.
"Centrist policies"?! Hardly! Obama is a Neocon and ALL of his policies and actions are right wing from the elitist, militarist, Chicago School playbook. "And stand with the president"?! Not under any circumstance. I can't imagine voting for any of the GOP's cartoon characters, but any one of them, even the lecher, would be better than the Great Deceiver, the father of lies --- because they are so demonstrably inept and their nutty tea potter positions could only hasten the collapse.
In fact, I believe that the goofy ineptitude of Obama's opposition is is by design. The 1% is deliriously happy with their plantation waterboy, and their protestations to the contrary are merely theatrical. And once again, well-kept veal pen "liberal" KVH is shrewdly helping him carry the masters' water.
'Chait admits that some “complaints [about Obama] are right,” but that isn’t why liberals are so depressed. Instead, liberals “are incapable of feeling satisfied with a Democratic president,” unlike conservatives, whose disappointment “is neither as incessant nor as pervasively depressed as the liberal variety.”'
They might be satisfied IF it was a Democratic president.
Of course Republicans are satisfied--they get 98% whether it is a "Democrat" or a Republican.
This is the same crowd that was dumbfounded by a OWS message--they didn't get it, they were truly clueless of what was a perfectly obvious reality to the rest of us. They don't have a problem with Obama's ambition to gut the New Deal, because they are in the class that has prospered at the expense of the rest of us under Obama.
Ultimately Chait just a partisan hack, most likely enlisted by a desperate Obama campaign, evidenced by the lecturing approach.
Nice response for the most part by Ms vanden Heuvel, but don't assume our votes are there for Obama like we have no other choice. We may just choose to not vote.
Instead of not voting I'd suggest voting 3rd party. Maybe (ok probably not) if the dems lose by less than the 3rd party gets they'll wake up.
Anyway it's so easy to vote might as well make it 3rd party protest vote.
There is a third party?
Where?
Write it in if need be - But I'd be willing to bet there were more than 2 choices on your last presidential ballot.
mtdon -- I'm not sure I follow your reasoning, but we do need a third party, or maybe somebody unaffiliated with any party. The real problem with liberals or progressives is that they don't have enough faith or understanding of the electoral process, or ability to organize, to use the process to put forward worthy candidates. They're like the OWS, who regardless of their highly commendable focus on the real problems, consider not getting involved in politics a virtue.
I have spent most of my life laboring in the arid vineyard of third-party politics. The constant refrain from the left hand of war an Wall Street--the misnamed Democratic Party--has always been that you have to be "realistic" and vote for "the lesser evil."
Well, here we are, a half-century later, and guess what--things have gotten much worse in our country, to the point where we face generalized breakdown and a rising military security state. Homes, jobs, a future--all lost or in the process of being placed in jeopardy...which is what evil brings. If it had been left to the likes of these hacks, we never would have had civil-rights victories, the vote for women, and labor unions. You have to be realistic, you know, and it's dangerous outside.
The liberal mouthpieces of business as usual are completely feckless. If I thought they had a shred of integrity, I would tell them there is no progress without risk--and persistence.
Elections reflect, they do not drive social and political change.
"If only..." is of no value - "if only people had voted third party." In order for that to happen, there first would need to be massive social and political change. Such social and political change can never happen by promoting this or that electoral choice.
To say "if only people had voted third party things would have been different" is to say "if only things were different, they would be different."
Cajoling people to vote third party has not worked. That leaves you with two choices. Either you then blame the general public, or else you abandon your approach and do something more effective. Of those two choices you have, the first has not worked and the second has.
Do you want results, or do you want to merely be right? Being right is the booby prize in politics, and the only value it has is to console yourself after each inevitable defeat.
Saying that the general public is at fault for the conditions is not much different than saying that the slaves were at fault for slavery. If you cannot see how and why that analogy is appropriate, then look deeper.
Two Americas
Generally, I find myself in agreement with you, but "Elections reflect, they do not drive social and political change". What did the Tea Party do in the last election? They have been the drivers of social change as the antagonist force, moving society and government toward positions favorable to their ideology. The question of being 'right" misses the point. "All politic is local". A third party can elect Local officials, State officials and Congressional officials where the scale of operation is smaller. They can obtain a critical mass to play on the big stage of ideas and be a firewall against the implementation of ideology at the ground level. I'd like to hear the alternative in terms of achieving change through a "normal" political construct that has been totally compromised.
The Tea Party is a manufactured illusion. There is nothing there. It is all smoke and mirrors. You are shadow boxing with a phantom.
There is no "ideology" over there, either. "I think I will grab everything I can" is not an "ideology," and that is what we are up against.
The politicians are not in power. They are errand boys for those in power, and live and breathe at the whim of those in power, those who finance and control them.
I'm a Green Party supporter even if they are ineffective, badly managed and subject to infighting etc
Wow, I'm surprised I haven't heard that one before.
ABSOLUTELY! Don't not vote, Vote for 3rd party/write in. It's really that simple.
I mean really! Where do all these third party advocates find the candidates they suggest we vote for? When none are found, they say "write one in." Who? Sanders, Kucinich, Nader, the usual supects?--they have no interest. Me, my dead cat, the nice librarian at my nearest branch?--we've got too much integrity.
Even though I'm more of a dead-dog person than a dead-cat person, I'd like to get at least a bullet-point platform from your dead cat.
Its candidacy would at least test the proposition that the power-elite's duopoly has Amerikan electoral politics locked up so tight that there isn't even room to swing a dead cat.
Eliz. H.
You could try doing what I did in 2008 and that is voting for the socialist candidate who will be running for president in your particular state in 2012.
I'd suggest that we stop obsessing over voting, and stop buying into the myths about "our representative democracy."
Give up voting entirely? So: not even city council? County commissioner? Local school board? Transit district? State tax and spending measures? Environmental citizen initiatives?
If progressives can't get a genuine socialist elected to local or state government, we're sure as hell never going to get one elected to national office. How many socialist mayors remain in the USA? Suggestion: maybe we SHOULD obsess over voting, but in the selective times and places where it can really make a difference. Voting for Nader for president for the fourth (fifth?) time is not one of those.
I consistently vote for the Socialist or Green candidate running against the Democratic incumbent in our "safe" Democratic U.S. Congressional district. Yet those candidates rarely get more than 4% or 5% of the vote. Because there is no well-organized institutional network backing them up ... and because some of them come across as a bit wacky. If Average Joe Public isn't comfortable with you well, duh, you're not going to win 51% of the vote.
It's not enough to simply protest; at some point you need to organize and identify viable alternative leaders. Just ask the Wobblies, the NAACP, or the Sandinistas.
I did not say "stop voting."
... or, in simpler words: at some point socialists need to quit whining about their lack of success at the voting booth, and start DOING something about it. Starting at the local level. If you can't even convince the neighbors on your block to vote socialist, you'll clearly never convince the Soccer Moms and NFL Dads in Ohio, Florida, Colorado, Pennsylvania ...
Donny-Don
And it's time to cut the Bull*#*#t. The window may stay open for awhile, the fresh air feels good, but "work when it is day, for when night falls, no man can work". The window will close.
Every Bill mentioned as a Victory I see as more of a Corporate Welfare handout.
The Financial Bill - funny but the Risk has increased, bonuses have increased, derivitives have increased, secret bailouts have increased and the TBTF banks have grown - WHERE is the Victory in that?
The Health Insurance bill - the biggest monopolistic corps STILL have monopoly exemptions, the average bill has gone thru the roof, the government still can't negotiate drug prices, and now we are ALL going to be forced to buy a defective, inferior product upon which our LIVES will be dependent.
And finally WHICH president has Ever insulted his base to the point Obummer has? NONE
Radiation falling down on us inconvient to your Nuke policies? No Worries simply Order testing to halt!
NO president besides FDR has won reelection with an Unemloyment rate above 8%. And if we calculated the rate like we did in the 1930's our current rate would be higher than 16%.
New polls now show Obummer with an Approval Rate lower than Any Other President since WW2.
And democrats sit there and laugh about the weak republican field! Do so a your own perils -
HOW Stupid will you apologists be when Obummer loses?
History says Obama Will Not WIN but dems semm to think they've Already won the Election. "it's a no-brainer" they say!
After the fact they'll come here and Blame us. obama called us the fucking retards when in actuality obama and his apologist supporters will prove to be the expletive obama uses on true progressives who won't touch him with a 10' pole this time around.
Thanks for Nothing democrats!
You took the largest majorities in Generations and PROVED to be sellout corporatists
Based on this statement below by Katrina, yes progressives do hate themselves, at least the ones who would vote for Obummer again, no matter how many times he kicks them in the teeth.
"And even though progressives are justifiably disappointed with Obama’s centrist policies, there is little question that faced with the choice of Obama or Mitt Romney, they will stand with the president"
I consider myself a progressives/liberal, but it is painful to see what WIMPS so many of them are, and how pathetic they will grovel for crumbs from the corporate democrats.
Did anyone note the organized effort of the Hayden article together with this one hitting CD back to back? It appears that the Nation is trying to strike back with an authoritarian thunder, while getting on the Obama re-election bandwagon. Poor Katrina, she has long since suffered from spousal abuse syndrome her entire life.
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No matter how much abuse is piled on her by her lover (DNC politics), she adamantly refuses to leave the dysfunctional relationship. At this point, one would think that she not only relishes the abuse, but she has taken on the Copenhagen syndrome as an adjunct to her other addictions. Anyone who has left the relationship and thus the abuse, are actually the people who have HEALED THEMSEVLES: NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!
Katrina talks a progressive line but she is Firmly in the 1%! Born with a silver spoon in her nose (and a cool leather jacket of course).
And before someone says she isn't rich - she don't buy the Nation mag on her good looks -
And considering her grandparents stated MCA records I doubt she grew up in poverty.
Greenwald's darkly sarcastic take down of the TNR trash that Chait and others has been shoveling for years is far more compelling, and without any apologia for Obama.
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/29/the_secrecy_loving_mind_of_the_u_s_journalist/singleton/
Thanks for posting the link; it was a good read.
I would have taken the sarcasm down a notch or two, but that's just a stylistic preference. His review of material from the apologist-liberal media is a good eye opener.
ceti -- I'm just about to the point of writing in Greenwald on the presidential ballot and calling it a day. Would anyone join in that? Would be like a small but earnest draft. (He's 35, isn't he?).
He's 44, born in 1967 in NYC, so he meets the 1787 constitutional qualifications for any elective office.
karlof1 --Thanks for the ringing endorsement.
If Obama is a "centrist," then George W. Bush was a centrist.
If George W. Bush was a centrist, then Saddam Hussein was a centrist.
If Saddam Hussein was a centrist, then Joseph Stalin was a centrist.
Huh, maybe Katie Scarlet O'Hara vanden Heuvel is right, er, I mean, a
centrist.
I'll give old Katrina a hand for at least saying who she and her capitalist/warmongering 1%er's will vote for. (But we knew that already.)
As for that '92 election, it was Perot that threw the election to the democrats. Once again KVH tries to paint a different, racist/hating/dividing picture. But that's what the rich and privileged class in the NE does. Thankfully more progressives are becoming more hip to their bullshit.
Thankfully this time, a vote for Obama will be a (very) wasted one.
Like nearly all criticism emerging from The Nation, this piece postures as a serious defense of "progressive" values and positions, against creeps like Chait who exist only to bash liberals because they're perpetually depressed, which is just a clever way of saying they're always ineffective. But liberals aren't so much depressed as they're perpetually confused or compromised or distracted by trivial preoccupations.
Vanden Heuvel does what she always does--she makes lots of leftist-sounding noises only to circle back around to calling for liberal/progressive support for Obama in 2012. "And even though progressives are justifiably disappointed with Obama’s centrist policies, there is little question that faced with the choice of Obama or Mitt Romney, they will stand with the president. And their choice may have greater weight with less-engaged voters because of their independent criticisms of the president."
Well, yes, flaccid liberalism will always rise to the occasion and support the phony liberals who consistently betray them once in office, because they're incapable of learning anything that matters. Their "independent criticism" of Obama will even persuade less-engaged voters to support this fraud as well. What a victory for progressives!
Then she bafflingly writes, "The middle class is sinking, and poverty is spreading. Catastrophic climate change is a clear and present danger. President Obama was right." Right about what, precisely, Katrina? That to ignore all this evidence and prove one's fealty to the Right is the best way to insure liberals and progressives voting you in for a second term? Obama doesn't give a rat's ass about the sinking middle class, catastrophic climate change or the highest poverty levels in 80 years. He cares about the fortunes of Wall Street. And so do most liberals.