Truth is terrorism ? Facts are terrorism?

Maybe we should try and determine what is NOT terrorism as the list seems to be a heck of a lot shorter.

Great article Tom- direct and to the point. Cheers...

Terrorism has, of course, become a catchall for every repressive thing the powers that be want to institute in our vastly increasing police state existence. Just check this out from Wisconsin:

http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/111900139.html

It's always the same to; if it's not about national security and protecting us from terrorists and immigrants, it's about protecting the children and preventing fraud and abuse. The increasing use of invasive spying, searching, cataloging, inhibiting and general interference in our day to day existence may actually lead us to be unable to leave this country beyond just having a passport - think Soviet Union at its height of "national security" madness.

Think Salem, MA 1692. Picture Sarah Palin standing in the back of a pickup cruising down main street followed by paddy wagons to load up on the accused terrorist Sarah points out. The crowds will cheer her on, thank her, bless her for saving them from the terrorist while at the same time shaking with fear that they might be the next one she points out.

I think people in positions of power calling for untried citizens of other nations to be murdered is 'terrorism'.

On behalf of Canada I would like to apologise for Tom Flanagan, the dipshit toady of Harper who felt the need to swell his testes by blurting apish threats.

He's not much of a man and no representative of the feelings of most Canadians.

But I would never call for him to be assassinated for his ignorance. You can't teach a dead man anything.

Information terrorism? This is the lowest order of bunk. It's a sick joke. Besides, there is a legal definition of terrorism under the law. This fails--miserably--to qualify.

((d) Definitions
As used in this section—
(1) the term “international terrorism” means terrorism involving citizens or the territory of more than 1 country;
(2) the term “terrorism” means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents;
(3) the term “terrorist group” means any group, or which has significant subgroups which practice, international terrorism;
(4) the terms “territory” and “territory of the country” mean the land, waters, and airspace of the country; and
(5) the terms “terrorist sanctuary” and “sanctuary” mean an area in the territory of the country—
(A) that is used by a terrorist or terrorist organization—
(i) to carry out terrorist activities, including training, fundraising, financing, and recruitment; or
(ii) as a transit point; and
(B) the government of which expressly consents to, or with knowledge, allows, tolerates, or disregards such use of its territory and is not subject to a determination under—
(i) section 2405(j)(1)(A) of the Appendix to title 50;
(ii) section 2371 (a) of this title; or
(iii) section 2780 (d) of this title.

Sorry Newt and Ollie (you guys should really form a comedy team), it may make a good talking point for the perpetually petrified toadies of the National Security State, but the law refers to terrorism specifically as violence. Exposing war crimes and the illegal activities of governments and government officials is not violence. It's using your powers for good, ostensibly to reduce violence. Of course, that is a concept so foreign to most of those who weighed in with such preposterous opinions, that they may not recognize or understand it.

Sticks and stones, folks, sticks and stones.

yeah, well, nobody cares. welcome to the new world, hippy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW7hyWs7RAY&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Tom asks:" Who has been terrorized " ? The Washington elite, that's who. I agree with one caveat, and that is that by going ballistic in the whore MSM 24/7 it is also a way to demonize the net so that the Washington elites can control it by legislating an internet, patriot act or something similar. They probably had one already drafted and were just waiting for the window of opportunity, like 911.

Obama is front and center in all of this.

It is he, who has gone after whistleblowers and locked them up.

It is he, who has vastly expanded the War in Afghanistan, and Pakistan (of course it is a war).

It is he, with his DHS Secretary that paved the way for Chertoff's money making venture, in the form of full body scanners, and more aggressive TSA procedures.

It is he, who will go after Assange ultimately, as his DOJ dusts off the Espionage Act.

He is a right-winger, period.

Good article. By equating exposing truth with terrorism, the political leaders mentioned graphically show they can never be trusted to tell the truth.

What goes around comes around...

Mr. Assange’s predicament aside, it is not far-fetched to assume that the awesome machinery of a failing empire the size of ours is eventually tempted to unleash the full force of its remarkable power and fury against all whom it opposes, including those dissidents, if any, found among its own people.

Congress’ first hearing regarding WikiLeaks - 12/16/2010

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/297115-1

"After all, if you're the next one to give them a fright, you, too, could be declared a terrorist or an enemy combatant (even if you do work for the New York Times)."

That's the whole point, right? Set a precedent by going after people like Assange or organizations like Wikileaks. Once the precedent is set it'll be much easier to go after recalcitrant elements within the N.Y. Times, Newsweek, etc.
First Amendment R.I.P.

Palin sez: "Why was (Assange) not pursued with the same urgency we pursue al Qaeda and Taliban leaders?"

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I would submit he was pursued with far more urgency than those comparison groups. After all, the empire actually caught Assange.

Terrorits are people who use violence, or the threat of violence, against civilians for ideological, political, religious, ethnic, or other such reasons.

The real terrorists are those who funded, and still fund, the wars of aggression against the people of Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia, and the threat of war against the people of Iran and North Korea.

These terrorists are the members of the Bush and Obama administrations; the Congresses who went along with these immoral, illegal, insane, murderous policies; those who voted for these war criminals; and the war profiteers and media which supported and still supports their policies as they count their blood-stained profits and obscenely-high corporate bonuses.

U.S. forces have killed more than one million people and made more than 4 million refugees since October, 2001. This is terrorism approaching genocide. Jihadist Muslim/Al-Qaeda terrorism is nowhere near as destructive as that of the U.S. and its NATO allies.

Until most people in the U.S. realize this truth, that the alleged "War on Terrorism" is actually a "War OF Terrorism", largely paid for by OUR precious, much-needed tax dollars, all the blather about "fighting terrorism" is bullshit.

That our Justice dept. should be so interested in pursuing a journalist while having no interest whatsoever, from the outset, of prosecuting Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and friends for their war crimes and for treason against our constitution, is something I think about every single day since Assange turned himself in.