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Noam Chomsky Has ‘Never Seen Anything Like This’
Noam Chomsky is America’s greatest intellectual. His massive body of work, which includes nearly 100 books, has for decades deflated and exposed the lies of the power elite and the myths they perpetrate. Chomsky has done this despite being blacklisted by the commercial media, turned into a pariah by the academy and, by his own admission, being a pedantic and at times slightly boring speaker. He combines moral autonomy with rigorous scholarship, a remarkable grasp of detail and a searing intellect. He curtly dismisses our two-party system as a mirage orchestrated by the corporate state, excoriates the liberal intelligentsia for being fops and courtiers and describes the drivel of the commercial media as a form of “brainwashing.” And as our nation’s most prescient critic of unregulated capitalism, globalization and the poison of empire, he enters his 81st year warning us that we have little time left to save our anemic democracy.
“It is very similar to late Weimar Germany,” Chomsky told me when I called him at his office in Cambridge, Mass. “The parallels are striking. There was also tremendous disillusionment with the parliamentary system. The most striking fact about Weimar was not that the Nazis managed to destroy the Social Democrats and the Communists but that the traditional parties, the Conservative and Liberal parties, were hated and disappeared. It left a vacuum which the Nazis very cleverly and intelligently managed to take over.”
“The United States is extremely lucky that no honest, charismatic figure has arisen,” Chomsky went on. “Every charismatic figure is such an obvious crook that he destroys himself, like McCarthy or Nixon or the evangelist preachers. If somebody comes along who is charismatic and honest this country is in real trouble because of the frustration, disillusionment, the justified anger and the absence of any coherent response. What are people supposed to think if someone says ‘I have got an answer, we have an enemy’? There it was the Jews. Here it will be the illegal immigrants and the blacks. We will be told that white males are a persecuted minority. We will be told we have to defend ourselves and the honor of the nation. Military force will be exalted. People will be beaten up. This could become an overwhelming force. And if it happens it will be more dangerous than Germany. The United States is the world power. Germany was powerful but had more powerful antagonists. I don’t think all this is very far away. If the polls are accurate it is not the Republicans but the right-wing Republicans, the crazed Republicans, who will sweep the next election.”
“I have never seen anything like this in my lifetime,” Chomsky added. “I am old enough to remember the 1930s. My whole family was unemployed. There were far more desperate conditions than today. But it was hopeful. People had hope. The CIO was organizing. No one wants to say it anymore but the Communist Party was the spearhead for labor and civil rights organizing. Even things like giving my unemployed seamstress aunt a week in the country. It was a life. There is nothing like that now. The mood of the country is frightening. The level of anger, frustration and hatred of institutions is not organized in a constructive way. It is going off into self-destructive fantasies.”
“I listen to talk radio,” Chomsky said. “I don’t want to hear Rush Limbaugh. I want to hear the people calling in. They are like [suicide pilot] Joe Stack. What is happening to me? I have done all the right things. I am a God-fearing Christian. I work hard for my family. I have a gun. I believe in the values of the country and my life is collapsing.”
Chomsky has, more than any other American intellectual, charted the downward spiral of the American political and economic system, in works such as “On Power and Ideology: The Managua Lectures,” “Rethinking Camelot: JFK, the Vietnam War, and US Political Culture,” “A New Generation Draws the Line: Kosovo, East Timor and the Standards of the West,” “Understanding Power: The Indispensable Chomsky,” “Manufacturing Consent” and “Letters From Lexington: Reflections on Propaganda.” He reminds us that genuine intellectual inquiry is always subversive. It challenges cultural and political assumptions. It critiques structures. It is relentlessly self-critical. It implodes the self-indulgent myths and stereotypes we use to elevate ourselves and ignore our complicity in acts of violence and oppression. And it makes the powerful, as well as their liberal apologists, deeply uncomfortable.
Chomsky reserves his fiercest venom for the liberal elite in the press, the universities and the political system who serve as a smoke screen for the cruelty of unchecked capitalism and imperial war. He exposes their moral and intellectual posturing as a fraud. And this is why Chomsky is hated, and perhaps feared, more among liberal elites than among the right wing he also excoriates. When Christopher Hitchens decided to become a windup doll for the Bush administration after the attacks of 9/11, one of the first things he did was write a vicious article attacking Chomsky. Hitchens, unlike most of those he served, knew which intellectual in America mattered. [Editor’s note: To see some of the articles in the 2001 exchanges between Hitchens and Chomsky, click here, here, here and here.]
“I don’t bother writing about Fox News,” Chomsky said. “It is too easy. What I talk about are the liberal intellectuals, the ones who portray themselves and perceive themselves as challenging power, as courageous, as standing up for truth and justice. They are basically the guardians of the faith. They set the limits. They tell us how far we can go. They say, ‘Look how courageous I am.’ But do not go one millimeter beyond that. At least for the educated sectors, they are the most dangerous in supporting power.”
Chomsky, because he steps outside of every group and eschews all ideologies, has been crucial to American discourse for decades, from his work on the Vietnam War to his criticisms of the Obama administration. He stubbornly maintains his position as an iconoclast, one who distrusts power in any form.
“Most intellectuals have a self-understanding of themselves as the conscience of humanity,” said the Middle East scholar Norman Finkelstein. “They revel in and admire someone like Vaclav Havel. Chomsky is contemptuous of Havel. Chomsky embraces the Julien Benda view of the world. There are two sets of principles. They are the principles of power and privilege and the principles of truth and justice. If you pursue truth and justice it will always mean a diminution of power and privilege. If you pursue power and privilege it will always be at the expense of truth and justice. Benda says that the credo of any true intellectual has to be, as Christ said, ‘my kingdom is not of this world.’ Chomsky exposes the pretenses of those who claim to be the bearers of truth and justice. He shows that in fact these intellectuals are the bearers of power and privilege and all the evil that attends it.”
“Some of Chomsky’s books will consist of things like analyzing the misrepresentations of the Arias plan in Central America, and he will devote 200 pages to it,” Finkelstein said. “And two years later, who will have heard of Oscar Arias? It causes you to wonder would Chomsky have been wiser to write things on a grander scale, things with a more enduring quality so that you read them forty or sixty years later. This is what Russell did in books like ‘Marriage and Morals.’ Can you even read any longer what Chomsky wrote on Vietnam and Central America? The answer has to often be no. This tells you something about him. He is not writing for ego. If he were writing for ego he would have written in a grand style that would have buttressed his legacy. He is writing because he wants to effect political change. He cares about the lives of people and there the details count. He is trying to refute the daily lies spewed out by the establishment media. He could have devoted his time to writing philosophical treatises that would have endured like Kant or Russell. But he invested in the tiny details which make a difference to win a political battle.”
“I try to encourage people to think for themselves, to question standard assumptions,” Chomsky said when asked about his goals. “Don’t take assumptions for granted. Begin by taking a skeptical attitude toward anything that is conventional wisdom. Make it justify itself. It usually can’t. Be willing to ask questions about what is taken for granted. Try to think things through for yourself. There is plenty of information. You have got to learn how to judge, evaluate and compare it with other things. You have to take some things on trust or you can’t survive. But if there is something significant and important don’t take it on trust. As soon as you read anything that is anonymous you should immediately distrust it. If you read in the newspapers that Iran is defying the international community, ask who is the international community? India is opposed to sanctions. China is opposed to sanctions. Brazil is opposed to sanctions. The Non-Aligned Movement is vigorously opposed to sanctions and has been for years. Who is the international community? It is Washington and anyone who happens to agree with it. You can figure that out, but you have to do work. It is the same on issue after issue.”
Chomsky’s courage to speak on behalf of those, such as the Palestinians, whose suffering is often minimized or ignored in mass culture, holds up the possibility of the moral life. And, perhaps even more than his scholarship, his example of intellectual and moral independence sustains all who defy the cant of the crowd to speak the truth.
“I cannot tell you how many people, myself included, and this is not hyperbole, whose lives were changed by him,” said Finkelstein, who has been driven out of several university posts for his intellectual courage and independence. “Were it not for Chomsky I would have long ago succumbed. I was beaten and battered in my professional life. It was only the knowledge that one of the greatest minds in human history has faith in me that compensates for this constant, relentless and vicious battering. There are many people who are considered nonentities, the so-called little people of this world, who suddenly get an e-mail from Noam Chomsky. It breathes new life into you. Chomsky has stirred many, many people to realize a level of their potential that would forever been lost.”
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Show AllGreat Article.
I wonder who in the liberal elite Chomsky refers to as being frauds?
There are thousands of them. But you could start with Thomas Friedman. Your comment indicates that you haven't read much Chomsky. You might start with "Manufacturing Consent."
He's probably also referring to cliques like those at The New Republic.
Or the New York Times, or US New and World Report, or Newsweek, or ...
Teddy Kennedy - the most Insidious
Sure.
Teddy Kennedy voted for NAFTA, WTO, PNTR, NCLB ...
I wouldn't consider Friedman a Liberal, nor would I consider the NYT a liberal newspaper.
He even means "The Nation", "Mother Jones" or "The Progressive".
Please learn what the word "liberal" means. It doesn't NOT mean leftist, not is it in any way to be considered to be a sort of "socialism lite".
Since Locke and the enlightenment era onward, Liberalism has classically been and remains to this day (in the form of neoliberalism) a political philosophy that preaches the primacy of private property as the sole legitimate currency of "freedom" (aka power - same word). Under the liberal doctrine, one has freedom and power only to the extent that they own property.
Under the threat of socialism, the liberals instituted, solely as a temporary expedient, social welfare programs, and even some redistributive policies, but with the threat of socialism gone, these welfare and redistribution have been, or are being, discarded. The privatizing behavior of the liberal Obama is entirely to be expected with this regard.
For more information read this article:
http://www.counterpunch.com/jacobs04072010.html
Good post.
How about great post!?
A patronizing line like "Please learn what the word "liberal" means", can serve no possible positive purpose. Anyone who didn't already know what it meant, will be (understandably) alienated and unlikely to consider anything he says. The post was clearly directed at those who already agreed with him and so it's only possible purpose, like so many posts on here, was to show how knowledgeable the writer was. It would be a "great post" why?? Because you agreed with it? Showing how knowledgeable you are?
Thanks for the advice. I shound have not included that sentence.
But you are wrong to personalize the issue. It was not intended as puffery, but it reflected my anger and exasperation at how so many USAns are confused as to what "liberal" means, thereby supporting people like Obama, then ending up being confused at Obamas behavior, when in reality, Obama's behavior was always entirely predictable and consistent.
Respectfully, the article seemed to me to be nothing but a lot of wanking with semantics. It may be interesting to linguists to study the origin of words and their meanings, but what a word used to mean doesn't necessarily have diddly to do with what a word means now. That, as I'm sure you know, is determined by common usage. "Liberal" and "leftist" are commonly used pretty much interchangeably these days. Neither term, on it's own, says very much about the perspectives of those wearing the labels.
Your implied argument that people elected Obama because they identified him as a liberal, while wrongly thinking that "liberal" actually meant that he was far more progressive than he actually was, doesn't hold water. People voted for Obama for lots of reasons: McCain/Palin scared them more; the W regime had pretty well tainted the Republican brand; Obama promised things that he has since reneged on; and mostly because the economy crashed cataclysmically right before the election and, in a two party system, that means the sitting party gets replaced. Sure, there were a few people who thought he'd be the second coming of Eugene Debs, but those deludedly optimistic few didn't get him elected.
Whatever importance you give the labels, many of Jacobs' arguments are just false. His pointing to welfare reform as evidence of "liberalism" removing social safety nets because the threat of socialism had passed, ignores the context that the movement took place in. It was Gingrich and the right that had picked up the torch of welfare reform and Clinton (opportunistic whore that he was) simply jumped aboard when he saw that it was probably inevitable anyway (and in order to assure his re-election). Nothing to do with liberalism (however you want to define it). More just lack of principle.
I think the article was more than semantics, especially the part about the US getting more like Weimar Germany. I think, if true, it's a pretty significant observation. About labels, you're probably more like me; I don't like to generally use ideological labels because meanings, or understanding of meanings vary so widely. Most of the time, it's probably better to spell it out, if you catch my drift.
Sioux Rose
PJD: One of your better posts but there are 4 major spelling errors in it. Credibility is lost when a post is that poorly written, or copied.
What constitutes a major spelling error compared to just an error?
In an informal exchange like this like this - picking out spelling errors is getting terribly net-picky and suggests some other motive than helpfulness. I post these things at work and don't have the time to proofread.
I didn't notice any speling errors, but I did notice grammar errors - subject-verb agreement and the like. Nothing that affects the readability.
Really. Relax SR.
Now, if these posts were going into a rag like the Nation...
pjd412:
No worries. There some spelling errors, but they didn't detract from the readability of the post.
A few spelling ERRORS is much PREFERRED to THE seemingly RANDOM capitaliZATION of words FOR the PURPOSE of emphasis. ARE YOU LISTENING teddy?
Since HTML tags are disallowed by the software, using caps is the easiest method to provide emphasis.
Granted, and this makes sense in some circumstances; I do it myself. I'm objecting to the overuse of the caps - not every sentence needs a word emphasized.
When posting from home, I use Firefox, which has a spell checker built into the browser. Fummy how Microsoft can't seem to figure how to do this too.
I'll be starting a migration to Unbuntu Linux on the old home machine soon.
Very, very Fummy. :D Is it just me or are we all being a little over pedantic?
Teddy has not been doing all that much capitalization, Adhoc, for about a month and a half or so. Maybe you've been absent for a while.
And as far as the "spelling" errors in pjd412's original post, I didn't find four MAJOR spelling errors, Sioux Rose. A few punctuation errors and more a typo error of "not" for "nor" as the major "crimes" as far as I can tell.
At times I have found the usage of several words by you, Sioux Rose, totally incorrect, and also other errors of punctuation or syntax AND spelling in your posts.
However, as long as I understand what you are saying, I don't care, and I don't think it is in keeping with the spirit of this site that we nit-pick and get our egos all puffed up because we spell correctly 99 per cent of the time or our knowledge and skill at punctuating as properly as possible sets us apart and suggests we are superior beings of some sort.
When I reread a post of mine that is already on the CD board and find an error of "there" instead of "their," for example, or a sentence is somewhat garbled, I will try to correct these mistakes by using the edit function, but sometimes someone has already responded and my post with its errors has to remain as it is. That bothers me some because I'm somewhat compulsive about correct grammar, spelling, punctuation, but that's me.
Occasionally when I'm really tired, but passionately inflamed enough to want to say something, I make more errors that I try to correct, but sometimes SO WHAT?
The article we are reading is: "Noam Chomsky Has'Never Seen Anything Like This.'" Neither have I.
I have never listened to or read about decisions made, so consistently, by some who are manifesting every rotten syndrome of the psychopathic personality, which boils down to cold-bloodedness in relation to the lives of others. I have never perceived as much primitive Masculine Principle energies out of control as I have recently, with absolutely no sense and sensibility about the value of the lives of others in other countries when that country has strategic importance or resource value to the EMPIRE in the making.
Those who get together in the "War Cabinet," for example, are so out of touch with those qualities of humanity that we are taught to respect and admire that, to me, it is horrifying and these are horrifying, dangerous times because of these very limited people posing as the be-all and end-all. If they keep it up, it will be the END-ALL.
It seems to me that we have been taken over by insane, savage people in very expensive suits, but who talk in voice tones and pitch as they put forth information and plan and plot together that belie their soul-less savagery and their actual emotional stupidity and unhealth.
If one is a relatively normal human being, if what one must decide will hurt or kill people, you sweat over it and consider any possible action in the most serious, caring and concerned way. These people do not care at all. Let's get that; let's allow that to sink in. These people want POWER, CONTROL, WEALTH, STATUS and they want it THEIR WAY, and so what if children, pregnant women, the elderly, the vulnerable and the younger people, whether our soldiers or the young of various villages and areas are killed, maimed, wounded, burnt, torn assunder, run over, blasted to kingdom come. ... THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONSIDERED THE CREME DE LA CREME OF LEADERSHIP are sick, selfish, violent RATS, and I don't want to insult rats, who are taking us down and may destroy the whole of our world.
And I've never seen or experienced anything like this, and I've got 73 years under my belt.
Finding a way to get rid of our more-than-budding WEIMAR REPUBLIC with its ferociously effective military powers, but not much else, is more important than whether I spel corectly. [There're two for you to get upset about.] Instead, hear my passion, my compassion, my concern, my trying to figure out what is going on and what to do and connect with others who also share those feelings and those concerns.
Please, let us concentrate on saving the earth, on retrieving our nation, on creating, if we can, the possibility of A WORLD AT PEACE. That terminology is very rarely heard anymore, but that was the constant goal of many years of my growing-up and young adult time. And it was the most important goal of many, many dedicated leaders who were sane and balanced and visionary.
I'm with Chomsky, only in language that might bother some of us: I ain't never seen nuthin' like this before, and I'm scared and confuzed but I wanna' help change it in the wirst way becuz I want my granchildren to grow up happy and safe.
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If I've offended anyone here, get over it. We've got more important fish to fry ... [Oh, God, and now I've offended the Vegans.] Let's do right by our world and each other and for others.
peace and love, and I mean it.
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Wow, Cee! I sure would like to know you. I laughed out loud. You are way hip. The planet's a better place for your being on it.
Keep telling your Truth.
PeaceTruthBeauty! and I mean it, too.
Jack Chase
"Trust those who are seeking the Truth. Doubt those who find it." Andre Gide
"Peace is the most important form of Love." Salman Rushdie
... and a big hug to you too, Jack.
We'll very likely be talking one of these days.
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Very few likes the spell_ing Nazi
Friedman is widely considered to be a "Liberal Hawk". He criticized Bush for his justifications for the invasion of Iraq (thus boosting his "Liberal" credentials). He just thought the justification should have been regime change.
Me either, but they serve the system as such. Much like the democratic party does.
I am surprised to hear Chomsky say that "no charismatic figure has arisen".
Obama has serially implemented right wing legislation for the past 15 months with nary a dent in his approval ratings and few questions from his followers.
If that isn't charismatic, I don't know what is.
He said no Honest charismatic figure has arisen, implying that honesty is not a trademark of our current president.
Agree. Obama is a dissembler, obfuscator, etc., who serves corporate and state power. Though he is quite charismatic. His lack of honesty people can feel and many are repulsed and feel disgusted.
Yes, the key descriptor is "honest."
Most people are missing the importance of being "honest". Our leaders are cynics, they are lying; they are either good liars (Obama) or bad liars (Bush), but they are liars. Over time people can tell that they are lying. What Chomsky means about a leader being "honest" is that Hitler believed what he was saying, he wasn't lying. That's what made him so dangerous. His sincerity was a big part of his real charisma and was able to win millions to his cause. So far a person like that hasn't emerged on the Right.
Exactly! "Honest" and "sincere" does not mean "good". Hitler was very sincere in his beliefs.
Unfortunately, there are dozens of them in the wings. A big chunk of the right, both in Congress and in the general public, actually does believe the drivel they spout.
Tom Larsen, i can't believe i missed your point! Indeed.
Honest meaning he believes his own b.s. Which does make a person more credible. Absolutely. Obama believes nothing and is about nothing. True!
Although i would say cheney could fit the bill in my opinion.
I had the same thought, raydelcamino.
Me too. Instantly.
raydelcomino, you left out the word "honest", which is critical. Obama has shown himself to be extremely dishonest. He repeatedly has broken promises, lied, and contradicted himself. The problem with an honest charismatic figure is that because he believes he is right and is incorruptible, his followers won't become disillusioned. As Chomsky said, he wouldn't self destruct from his own greed. Instead, he would be able to take down the whole country with him.
I don't think we're at that tipping point just yet. Although angry, anxious and stressed, too many Americans are still employed (80% of the workforce). But a double dip recession could do it. I could be wrong, certainly Noam Chomsky is far better informed than I am.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
raydelcamino: "Obama has serially implemented right wing legislation for the past 15 months with nary a dent in his approval ratings and few questions from his followers."
I don't find this charismatic at all. When one considers that Obama is actually implementing "corporate-backed" legislation (what is right wing legislation, after all?), I submit that this is the current political path of LEAST resistance.
Take the so-called 'health-care reform' debacle we witnessed for the past year. A charismatic leader would have began by framing the debate along the lines of the following: Is health-care a right or a privilege?
Instead what we got was an opaque back-room deal. Hardly charismatic.
His "followers" who still approve really don't follow the issues. There are many reasons for this. As has been pointed out here before, "encampment" is a big one ("Whew! Our guy won! Things will certainly be different from now on"), along with the constant dumbing-down by our news media.
If Brand Obama has not received a dent, why are polls showing that, if accurate, indicate far right-wing ("crazed") politicians are poised to sweep into power next election?
My comments are based on the surprisingly large number of people I see every day dialed into brand Obama. To them, Obama is cool, hoop shooting, historic (whatever that means), dapper leader. After 8 years of Dubya they are not going to let the fact that Obama is somewhere to the right of Richard Nixon (or any other facts) get in the way of a good story.
Although brand Obama has been dented, it has been dented very little relative to the damage Obama has inflicted. Irrespective of the outcomes of Obama's presidency, history will put him on the list of charismatic leaders of the past century.
Agreed. They think they have a 'Black Community Organizer' who talks like MLK and Malcolm X, and looks like Malcolm X and even evokes Abe Lincoln. Really cool(!) for the left-leaning, and really terrifying (think Huey Newton) for the right-leaning. This is the media image conveyed 24/7 from across the "political spectrum".
The fact is is that "Obama" is as much a media creation as self-created. His 'charisma' is amplified by the media. He is the frontman who knows how to play his part and deliver his lines.
As a result, Obama is handing the US treasury over to corporations even faster than Dubya did.
Sioux Rose
BGCD: Your post depicts the 21st century's marketing powers in fully establishing the credibility of packaging over substance.
Souix Rose, if I'm not mistaken, the Obama campaign was credited with being the very best advertising campaign in the history of advertising. Seriously!
Sioux Rose
AUSSI: I know. And war was carted out as a PRODUCT to be marketed in the appropriate season, according to Andrew Card (lackey for the Bush adminstration).
"He is the frontman who knows how to play his part and deliver his lines." excellent...