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How One Becomes 'Crazy' in Washington Culture
Politico points to Jim McDermott and David Bonior as the Left's "crackpots" because they tried to stop the war.
Politico has an article on how certain mainstream Republican leaders are worried that "crackpots" are dominating their party's image (h/t reader jv):
"Neither party has an exclusive on whack jobs," says Republican media consultant Mark McKinnon. "Unfortunately, right now the Democrats generally get defined by President Obama, and Republicans, who have no clear leadership, get defined by crackpots - and then they begin to define the Republican Party in the mind of the general public" . . . .
Here's Orly Taitz, insisting that the commander in chief was born in Kenya. There's a flock of town hall protesters, waving photos of the president in a Hitler moustache. Former GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin warns darkly that Obama is planning "death panels" for senior citizens. Georgia Rep. Paul Broun equates the president's plans with "Nazi" policies. Ohio Rep. Jean Schmidt -- last heard calling John Murtha a "coward" -- tells a birther: "I agree with you, but the courts don't."
And then, in the midst of all the catcalls, hand-held signs and "I'm not listening" BlackBerrying, Wilson interrupts Obama's address to a joint session of Congress by shouting, "You lie!"
While the Republican Party is absolutely dominated by people who are exactly that, is yelling at the President really such a bad act? Yes, it's "rude" and indecorous, but as Digby says, the President is not a King, even if George Bush was routinely treated as one as people politely wearing critical t-shirts were barred or even removed from various events where His Majesty appeared, including the State of the Union address.
Eugene Robinson today absurdly calls the GOP's disrespectful behavior at Obama's speech "un-American." Right-wing contempt for Obama is often petty, deeply emotional and ugly -- just like right-wing leaders themselves. But the demand that the President be venerated and treated as royalty is far more "un-American" than disruptive transgressions of etiquette. Wilson's heckling was juvenile and dumb, but that's all it was. If only a fraction of the media dismay devoted to his two-second breach of "decorum" had been directed to, say, rampant presidential lawbreaking, or the implementation of a torture regime, or the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people in our various wars, we would be much better off. The American Right is indeed dominated by crazed extremists who often seem barely in touch with basic reality and who are at war with core American political values, but Joe Wilson's irreverence is one of the least significant examples of that, if it's one at all.
As HTML Mencken insightfully noted in what is one of the best blog posts ever written, our political mores demand vehement repudiation of petty acts of incivility (not all, but most) while tolerating and even approving of extremely consequential acts of indecency as long as they're advocated with superficial civility. Those who use curse words to oppose torture, wars and lawbreaking are evil and unSerious (The Angry Left); those who politely and soberly advocate morally repugnant, indecent policies are respected and Serious. As long as one adheres to Beltway decorum, one can advocate the most amoral and even murderous policies without any repercussions whatsoever; it is only disruptive and impolite behavior that generates intense upset. Beltway culture hates "incivility" (public use of bad words) but embraces full-scale substantive indecency (torture, lawbreaking, unjustified wars, ownership of government by corporations, etc.).
All of that leads to the most interesting and revealing aspect of the Politico article. Needless to say, no establishment media outlet is permitted to write an article that includes criticisms of "one side" without emphasizing that the criticisms apply just the same to "the other side" -- regardless of whether that's actually true. That's what "balance" means. Thus, Politico publishes an article discussing the fact that the Right is dominated by crackpots and it is therefore required to claim that the Left is, too. Here are their examples to provide the balance needed so as to not upset Matt Drudge and Rush Limbaugh:
Nor are Democrats strangers to having their crazy uncles take center stage. During the run-up to the Iraq war, for example, Reps. Jim McDermott (D-Wash.), Mike Thompson (D-Calif.) and David Bonior (D-Mich.) famously flew to Baghdad, where McDermott asserted that he believed the president would "mislead the American public" to justify the war. The trip made it a cakewalk for critics to describe the Democratic Party as chock-a-block with traitorous radicals.
That's one of the most amazing passages I can recall reading. Even now -- when everyone knows that the President did exactly that which Rep. McDermott, in 2002, said he was doing: "misleading the American public to justify the war" -- those who pointed out that truth are deemed "crazy." Here's what that "crazy traitorous uncle" McDermott actually said, as reported back then by The New York Times:
Democratic congressmen who are visiting Iraq this week stirred up anger among some Republicans when they questioned the reasons President Bush has used to justify possible military action against Iraq.. . .
Speaking of the administration, Mr. McDermott said, ''I believe that sometimes they give out misinformation.'' Then he added: ''It would not surprise me if they came up with some information that is not provable, and they've shifted. First they said it was Al Qaeda, then they said it was weapons of mass destruction. Now they're going back and saying it's Al Qaeda again.''
When pressed for evidence about whether President Bush had lied, Mr. McDermott said, ''I think the president would mislead the American people.'' But he said he believed that inspections of Iraq's weapons programs could be worked out.
''I think they will come up with a regime that will not require coercive inspections,'' Mr. McDermott said, anticipating meetings on Monday between Hans Blix, the leader of the United Nations inspection group, and Iraqi officials.
''They said they would allow us to go look anywhere we wanted,'' he said of the Iraqis. ''And until they don't do that, there is no need to do this coercive stuff where you bring in helicopters and armed people and storm buildings.''
''Otherwise you're just trying to provoke them into war,'' he added.
Totally insane! Get the butterfly net. The members of Congress who actively tried to stop this murderous invasion by traveling to Iraq and seeking to negotiate a deal for weapons inspections are the "crackpots." By contrast, who are the sane, mainstream, Serious Republicans cited by Politico who are worried about their party being taken over by extremists? The people who cheered on the invasion of Iraq based on the need to root out imaginary WMDs and ties to Al Qaeda (e.g.: PNAC signatory Vin Weber, Iraq War cheerleader John Cornyn, John "Iraq causalties a small price to pay" Boehner). So everything Jim McDermott said turned out to be true and he's the crazy-loser-crackpot-radical -- just like that crazy, insane, traitorous former Marine Scott Ritter, who babbled insanities like this in the Fall of 2002, while super-sane-and-patriotic. war-justifying, tough-guy experts Jonah Goldberg and Peter Beinart laughed at him on CNN for being so naive and corrupt:
My country seems on the verge of making an historic mistake . . . . My government is making a case for war against Iraq that is built upon fear and ignorance, as opposed to the reality of truth and fact.
As someone who counts himself as a fervent patriot and a good citizen of the United States of America, I feel I cannot stand by idly, while my country behaves in such a fashion. . . .
We, the people of the United States, are told repeatedly that we face a grave and imminent risk to our national security from a combination of past irresponsible behavior on the part of Iraq and ongoing efforts by Iraq to re-acquire chemical, biological and nuclear weapons and long-range ballistic weapons ... which have been banned since 1991 by a Security Council resolution.
The truth of the matter is that Iraq is not a sponsor of the kind of terror perpetrated against the United States on 11 September, and in fact is active in suppressing the sort of fundamentalist extremism that characterizes those who attacked the United States on that horrible day. . . .
The truth of the matter is that Iraq has not been shown to possess weapons of mass destruction, either in terms of having retained prohibited capability from the past, or by seeking to re-acquire such capability today...
Iraq must loudly reject any intention of possessing these weapons and then work within the framework of international law to demonstrate this a reality.
The only way that Iraq can achieve this is with the unconditional return of UN weapons inspectors, allowing such inspectors unfettered access to sites inside Iraq in order to complete the disarmament tasks as set forth in Security Council resolutions...
What a crazy extremist loser he is. To recap: everything the Republican leaders said about Iraq turned out to be false, fictitious, imaginary -- and their false-pretense war led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings. Yet they're the sane, sober, Serious ones trying to ensure their party isn't dominated by the right-wing version of crazy traitorous losers like Jim McDermott, David Bonior and Scott Ritter.
This is perfectly reflective of the prevailing Beltway mindset. One would be, I'd bet, hard-pressed to find many establishment journalists who reject the notion that war opponents like Jim McDermott are crazy, unSerious extremists while the Right's war proponents are still Serious and credible on national security. Even after everything that's happened, anything associated with "the Left" is, for that reason alone, discredited and unSerious in the media mind [The Washington Post's Paul Kane finds an excuse to spit scorn for what he calls "the Far Left" in virtually every online chat he does; from yesterday: "No one else is gonna be switching parties any time soon, not after the way liberal Democrats have greeted Arlen Specter. . . . Why on earth would any Republican want to switch parties just so they can get attacked by the far left of the Democratic party?"; does anyone know what mean and terrible things "the Far left" did to poor Arlen Specter that scared everyone?].
That's why we continue to fight wars endlessly and will almost certainly continue to do so -- even as Al Qaeda turns into little more than a scary image and myth. The Washington Post now appears to be having a hard time deciding if we should attack Iran or Venezuela next. Our political culture is embedded with the notion that "war" is inherently right, good, important and Serious. Those who advocate it are deemed intrinsically more Serious than those who oppose it, no matter what the war is or what its justification might be. And our leading institutions are all designed to benefit from more wars rather than fewer. Here is what Leslie Gelb -- former enthusiastic Iraq war supporter and President Emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations -- wrote in the current issue of Democracy Journal:

UPDATE: As happens so often on so many topics, Tom Tomorrow's cartoon this week perfectly illustrates the "craziness" balance discussed here (click image to enlarge):
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Show AllI wonder whether Greenwald is being a bit disingenuous here. I suspect that he knows that the Beltway politicians and "journalists" do not concern themselves with the "goddamned piece of paper," the rule of law, the principles of democratic government, or the welfare of ordinary citizens in the US or in foreign lands, and certainly not that quaint little thing sometimes called the "search for truth," when they determine who or what is "serious." Someone who is "serious" is an individual who recognizes that the mainstream stories are government propaganda developed for a greater purpose -- to maximize the profits of the well-connected, the "insiders" and "winners." Those who take seriously the "goddamned piece of paper," the idea of democracy, the purported role of "journalists," or the welfare of the common people are automatically deemed unserious simpletons, fools, and naive do-gooders on some ill-conceived and hopeless Quixotic quest, and are worthy of scorn, ridicule, and derision, as well as exclusion from the club of insiders.
I hope Greenwald realizes the Politico author is simply using a propaganda technque.
The author of the article was probably hired because he's CIA or an ideological zombie.
The purpose of the article was to misinform to a degreee sufficient enough to cause paralysis and confusion to the reader.
The average Politico reader doesn't read Greenwald, CD or my posts.
We live in a country of Politco readers who haven't a clue they're the victims of mass mind control.
How is Greenwald "disingenuous"? All you did was say what he did. The crazy uncles are mocking and excluding those who take the piece of paper seriously - that was his point. (Ye might wanta look up "disingenuous".)
How do you Americans keep electing and paying attention to these nutjobs? They're really bad, really, really gawdawful - worse even than the uneducated, toothless, grimy self-declared imams over the other side of the wars - Stossel - John Voight level of awful. How do poop-for-brains like hannity, beck Limbaugh,Imus, coulter, Wilson, etc keep getting your approval and attention. what the hell is the matter with you? It's so unamerican! You're making of yerself the laughingstock of the world.
I'm so p*ssed off with you I'm not going to even correcft my typos.
sheesh!
I believe I know what "disingenuous" means and have for decades (lacking in candor... calculating). Greenwald presents the situation in a way that those he criticizes will not feel their integrity has been challenged, just their view of reality, an attack they will find more palatable, making them less likely to counterattack. Greenwald did not make it clear that the mainstream journalists know perfectly well that the "crackpots" of the left are actually the serious people and those whom the mainstream journalists call "serious" are actually completely corrupt and dishonest.
Greenwald: "This is perfectly reflective of the prevailing Beltway mindset. One would be, I'd bet, hard-pressed to find many establishment journalists who reject the notion that war opponents like Jim McDermott are crazy, unSerious extremists while the Right's war proponents are still Serious and credible on national security."
Greenwald: "Our political culture is embedded with the notion that 'war' is inherently right, good, important and Serious. Those who advocate it are deemed intrinsically more Serious than those who oppose it, no matter what the war is or what its justification might be."
Greenwald does go on to say:
"Gelb is certainly right -- as I've written before -- that America's 'Foreign Policy Community' is centrally designed and incentivized to justify and cheer on wars. But it extends far beyond that. That's the central premise of our political culture generally. When it comes to credibility, supporting wars trumps everything -- including truth."
This last paragraph is a little closer to the point I was making, but not precisely it, particularly when interpreting it in the context of the two previous paragraphs I quoted here and the title of the piece.
Greenwald, probably to protect himself, is not being nearly cynical enough, when he should know better.
Nice clarification, thanks. Who was it who said, "No matter how cynical you get, it's not enougth to keep up."? Fran Liebowitz? (sp)
It's all too much. I'm off the keyboard for a while - I've got a dog to smooch.
matthew loughran
"How do you Americans keep electing and paying attention to these nutjobs? They're really bad, really, really gawdawful - worse even than the uneducated, toothless, grimy self-declared imams over the other side of the wars"
thats because we have a fundamentally shitty democracy in the US. two corporate parties that are really not different from each other. and we are the laughign stock of the world.
i agree with you. there are many people who are just too damn stupid and cling to their right wign fanaticism and 'murca first mentality.
i am pissed with this country and i don't want to correct my typos also.
yer wonderful, really. what a great sense of humour!
Bring America Back !!!!..........!....Whoa there redballoon, how dare you forget to include that bold, stale, rotting hunk of human decay named Bill O'Reilly.
****O'Reilly is on the NY Times best selling list==so obviously it is what
some folks want to read. And, O'Reilly says that sister ranter Michelle Malkin
will be headed to the list soon for her upcoming "Culture of Corruption" !
****All those right wingers you list are regularly on O'Reilly's Fox TV show
licking his boots, while he plays straight man to their rants and anti-liberal
slogans. One of the newer featurettes, former liberal turned Neocon--Geraldo
Rivera, was on O'Reilly yesterday proclaiming actor Charlie Sheen to be "Crazy" !
Seems Sheen has made a new video asking Prez Obama to influence his Demmy
majority in Congress to kick off investigations of the Bush role in 9/11 !!
While calling Sheen 'crazy' Fox splices in film history of Rosie O'Donnell,
another favorite conspiracy crazy of the Neocons.
Greenwalds remark, citing Mencken, about the way the US congress covers it's barbarism with a veneer of civility and decorum is well-taken.
Shouts and catcalls are perfectly normal occurrences in parliament chambers of Ottawa, Canberra, or London, and they seem to do much better than the US Congress in getting things done.
-Greenwalds remark, citing Mencken, about the way the US congress covers it's barbarism with a veneer of civility and decorum is well-taken.
This underscores just how little political space there is between the two big parties in the US. If they were openly and honestly debating (healthcare) for example, you would see more of this "you lie" business, not less. The elevating of surface civility to greater importance as a news story than the widespread law breaking by the government underscores how the real deal making is being done secretely by lobbyists...business as usual.
Shouting and screaming, proves nothing. Just like surface civility proves nothing.
In fact, shouting and screaming can often be used to divert from the fact that at heart, there is little difference in policy between opponents, and that the difference is merely about personality, about who is in power.
London? Hardly.
The UK parliament is nothing more than a rubber stamp for the executive. The MPs might engage in shouting and catcalling, they might deliver fiery speeches. Loads of meaningless noise. Entertainment for the masses. When it comes to the time to actually vote, they are whipped into line by the party whips, rubber stamping whatever proposals the government puts up.
The US noosphere is direly polluted.
But how do you go about cleaning up a nation's noosphere?
Installling cognitive scrubbers maybe?
What would a cognitive scrubber look like, I wonder...
like a field of mature marijuana plants...and a handful of psilocybin shrooms...the unaided brain can't get there...not with 'presence'...
Hear! Hear!
Good answer! Regularly sitting quietly by yourself and paying attention to your mind is also helpful.
like the stars at night, we have managed to obscure the most basic, educational, awe-inspiring things...the self-monitoring of one's own brain, and self-discussion of one's own positions, is so critical to developing one's ability to think, yet our 24/7 electronic assault on the brain makes this vital, restorative reflection difficult and unlikely...a comparatively disappointing alternative, resorted to only when all other avenues of distraction are either temporarily out of order, or done to the point of utter boredom...
you are absolutely correct, and freeing one's brain from these outside influences is a necessary beginning to analyzing and reconstructing one's world...I wonder how much of this electronic activity permeates the skull and enters the brain, even without the end devices translating?
It might look like certain of my classes, but that's only a start.
Didn't your mama ever teach you that it's impolite to interrupt someone while they are speaking. Nuff said.
Useful thoughts well said, dubet.
Is there anyway the 1951 Feiner vs Supreme court could be used to stop the sanction of violence on our elected officials?
The ruling:
. .. It includes not only violent acts and words likely to produce violence in others. No one would have the hardihood to suggest that the principle of freedom of speech sanctions incitement to riot, or that religious liberty canote the privilege to exhort others to physical attack upon those belonging to another sect.
Greenwald again says some important things, distinguishing himself from the MSM news people, and rightly so. However, I can't get all that excited about the fact that so many media people -- the ones who make the money and get read by millions -- can't get it right. Generally, in agreeing with the war mongers, I don't think they're being insincere; they really don't understand how their personalities have been infused with militarism. But we have Greenwald, and others, who do see things in the right perspective. We have the Internet, and obscure journals that somehow get put on the Internet, to provide smart foils to the MSM's shallow militarism. The glass is half full.
Greenwald changed my thinking a bit about Rep. Joe Wilson's outburst, although it did occur to me at the time that rudeness like that is commonplace in England and other countries. What I noticed, and thought Greenwald would notice, is that the MSM, in subsequent reports about the incident, seemed almost intentionally to leave out what Obama was supposedly lying about. This is the real story: not the breach of etiquette, but what the breach was about. Rep. Wilson, by expressing emotional outrage about the remote possibility of providing health care to "illegal aliens," as opposed to, say, the problem of people dying from lack of health care, has done a great deal to reverse any gains the Republicans have made with Hispanics. He made it abundantly clear that preventing some people in this country from obtaining health care is his top priority. The Republicans cheering him on have shown that they share Wilson's priority. I think eventually even MSM types will talk about this.
The left is seen as nothing but a bunch of damn hippies, Pot smoking, flag burning femininazis and queers.
Shitty shitty democracy.
Signed,
Crazy Queerbait Uncle
Its kind of like Bush when the world trade center buildings came down...he was calm & "sober" telling us 'everything's in place to protect Americans'...he said it THAT DAY. Thousands just died horrible deaths and he's all calm saying they are going to protect Americans when they are responsible for the exact opposite...the PNAC 'catalyzing event' for war was the only thing in place
Bring America Back !!!!
***JC, I want you to flash back to "THAT DAY". In that Sarasota school classroom,
after being directly told our Nation was "under attack", "W" Bush sat for a
documented nine (9) minutes reading an elementary school book 'My Pet Goat' !
The fully trained US Secret Service allowed The "Decider", The so called
Leader of the Free World to sit exposed for a pregnant 9 minutes before doing
anything !!!!
**Simultaneously in DC, the same US Secret Service was forcibly scrambling the VP Cheney, against his will, down to the underground Emergency Ops Bunker ! Cheney is on documented record saying he fought them all the way saying==I dont want to go to the Bunker !
**Later, as you say, Bush calmly and reservedly assures the Nation their safety
is well in hand.
**For an Agency which is trained to "take the bullet" for the Chief Executive, to allow Him to sit uncovered for 9 minutes--no matter where he was--is a monumental revelation. Those SS Agents knew something--they knew He was in no "Real" Danger because they knew exactly what was going to happen !!!! THEY KNEW !!
THINK ABOUT IT JC ! If you were the Prez, and whispering into your ear were the words==We are under attack===Would not your reaction be to JUMP UP out of your chair or school desk and RUN to your Nerve Center to protect your Nation==which on THAT DAY was Air Force One !!!??? Also a Monumental revelation==Bush just sits for 9 minutes indicates what ===HE KNEW.........in Advance those attacks were coming, and exactly where they would be !!
***You see, Michael Moore got it wrong in his movie Fahernheit 911==he accuses Bush of sheer stupidity, sitting there for those 9 minutes==which it was not stupidity, it was foreknowledge that those attacks were planned THAT DAY !!!! Otherwise, you better believe the Secret Service would've had him out of there in fractions of seconds.
Bring America Back !!!!
****The thing Mr Greenwald himself must keep in mind, is that in DC the "mindset" really means "moneyset" ! $$$$
****Those actions which bring money and power to the military-industrial complex are the sane and normal pathways.
War, lobbying, corruption====all good moneymakers.
***Peace, healthcare, charity, global warming and conservation, Not so much !!!! If you are an advocate of these things, you are Crazy under the DC definitions.
And how are you going to keep blaming Republicans when the new Democratic Congress just passed another $110 Billion increment to the Iraq/Afghan War Effort ?????????????
If you require by law, 47 million Americans to buy their health insurance--who cannot now afford any of it, how is that a solution when they won't ever be able to afford that either ????? This fits my definition of "Crazy" !
****So Glen, if you desire to explore the depths of the bureaucratic mentality==next trip to Capitol Hill take a big wad of US greenbacks $$$$, you'll get some real solid thinking !!!
And, at least Joe Wilson did not throw his shoes at Obama, like the National Hero of Baghdad, Iraq did at Prez "W" Bush. That Hero is now being lavished with a new home, automobiles, offers of matrimony, and wealth and riches from the Government and Society of Iraq !!!! He was also awarded a shiny new pair of shoes.
"Wilson interrupts Obama's address to a joint session of Congress by shouting, "You lie!" It would have been a great moment if Obama would have yelled back "call me a liar will you" jumped down and ran over and beat the crap out of Wilson.
"HTML Mencken"?
Someone's been writing too much code.