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The Silence of MoveOn
The most powerful grassroots organization of the peace movement, MoveOn, remains silent as the American wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan simmer or escalate.
Then he met with Obama in February, Jason Ruben, executive director of MoveOn, told the president it was "the moment to go big," then indicated that MoveOn would not oppose the $94 billion war supplemental request, nor the 21,000 additional troops to Afghanistan, nor the increased civilian casualties from the mounting number of Predator attacks.What was MoveOn's explanation for abandoning the peace movement in a meeting with a president the peace movement was key to electing? According to Ruben and MoveOn, it was the preference of its millions of members, as ascertained by house meetings and polls.
The evidence, however, is otherwise. Last December 17, 48.3 percent of MoveOn members listed "end the war in Iraq" as a 2009 goal, after healthcare (64.9 percent), economic recovery and job creation (62.1 percent) and building a green economy/stopping climate change (49.6 percent--only 1.5 percent above Iraq.) This was at a moment when most Americans believed the Iraq War was ending. Afghanistan and Pakistan were not listed among top goals which members could vote on.
Then on May 22 MoveOn surveyed its members once again, listing ten possible campaigns for the organization. "Keep up the pressure to the end the war in Iraq" was listed ninth among the options.
Again, Afghanistan and Pakistan were not on the MoveOn list of options.
Nor was Guantánamo nor the administration's torture policies. ("Investigate the Bush Administration" was the first option.)
MoveOn is supposed to be an Internet version of participatory democracy, but the organization's decision-making structure apparently assures that the membership is voiceless on the question of these long wars.
What if they included an option like "demanding a diplomatic settlement and opposing a quagmire in Afghanistan and Pakistan"? Or "shifting from a priority on military spending to civilian spending on food, medicine and schools?"
This is no small matter. MoveOn has collected a privately held list of 5 million names, most of them strong peace advocates. The organization's membership contributed an unprecedented $180 million for the federal election cycle in 2004-2006. Those resources, now squelched or sequestered, mean that the most vital organization in the American peace movement is missing in action.
What to do? There is no point raving and ranting against MoveOn. The only path is in organizing a dialogue with the membership, over the Internet, and having faith that their voices will turn the organization to oppose these escalating occupations. The same approach is necessary towards other vital organs of the peace movement including rank-and-file Democrat activists and the post-election Obama organization (Organizing for America) through a persistent, bottom-up campaign to renew the peace movement as a powerful force in civil society.
This is not a simple matter of an organizational oligarchy manipulating its membership, although the avoidance by MoveOn's leadership is a troubling sign. There is genuine confusion over Afghanistan and Pakistan among the rank and file. The economic crisis has averted attention away from the battlefront. Many who voted for Obama understandably will give him the benefit of the doubt, for now.
Silence sends a message. The de facto MoveOn support for the $94 billion war supplemental reverberates up the ladder of power. Feeling no pressure, Congressional leadership has abdicated its critical oversight function over the expanding wars, not even allowing members to vote for a December report on possible exit strategies. In the end, a gutsy sixty voted against HR 2346 on May 14, but many defected to vote for the war spending, including Neil Abercrombie, Jerry Nadler, David Obey, Xavier Becerra, Lois Capps, Maurice Hinchey, Jesse Jackson, Sheila Jackson-Lee, Patrick Kennedy, Charles Rangel, Lucille Roybal-Allard, Loretta Sanchez, Rosa De Lauro, Bennie Thompson, Jerry McNerney, Robert Wexler and Henry Waxman. (Bill Delahunt, Linda Sanchez and Pete Stark were not recorded.)
If there were significant pressures from networks like MoveOn in their Congressional districts, the opposition vote might have approached 85.
Appropriations chair David Obey in essence granted Obama a one-year pass to show results in Afghanistan. If the war appears to be a quagmire by then, he claimed, the Democrats will become more critical. Speaker Nancy Pelosi delivered the same message; according to the Washington Examiner, May 6: "There won't be any more war supplementals, so my message to my members is, this is it." Pelosi's words were carefully parsed, saying that the White House would not be allowed another supplemental form of appropriation, which is different from an actual pledge to oppose war funding.
This one-year pass means that the grassroots peace movement has a few months to light a fire and reawaken pressure from below on the Congress and president. In the meantime, here are some predictions for the coming year:
• Iraq: Will Obama keep his pledge to withdraw combat forces from Iraq on a sixteen-month timetable, and all forces by 2011? At this point, the pace is slowing, and the deadline being somewhat extended, under pressure from US commanders on the ground. Sunnis are threatening to resume their insurgency if the al-Maliki regime fails to incorporate them into the political and security structures. The president insists however, that he is only making adjustments to a timetable that is on track. Prognosis: Precarious.
• Afghanistan: Will the Obama troop escalation deepen the quagmire or become a successful surge against the Taliban by next year? Another 21,000 troops and advisers are on their way to the battlefield. Civilian casualties are mounting, causing the besieged Karzai government to complain. Preventive detention of Afghans will only expand. US deaths, now over 600, are sure to increase this summer. Taliban may hold out and redeploy in order to stretch US forces thin. Prognosis: Escalation into quagmire.
• Pakistan: US policies have driven Al Qaeda from Afghanistan into Pakistan's tribal areas, where the United States is attacking with Predators and turning Pakistan's US-funded armed forces towards counterinsurgency. Public opinion is being inflamed against the US intervention. Prognosis: An expanding American war in Pakistan with greater threats to American security.
• Iran: With or without US complicity, Israel may attack Iran early next year, with unforeseeable consequences in Iraq and Afghanistan. Prognosis: Crisis will intensify.
• Global: The United States will fail to attract more combat troops to fight in Afghanistan and Pakistan from Europe or elsewhere, causing pressure to increase for a non-military negotiated solution. Prognosis: Obama still popular, US still isolated.
• Budget priorities: Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan will deeply threaten the administration's ability to succeed on the domestic front with stimulus spending, healthcare, education and alternative energy. Prognosis: false hope for "guns and butter" all over again.
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Show AllMany of us have noticed MoveOn's reticence after the inauguration. I suppose that the leadership is worn out from patting themselves on the back after Obama's successful campaign. They have a big victory under their belts and they apparently feel that raising issues with the new administration would diminish their glory.
Unfortunately, MoveOn's leadership has been co-opted. The lesson here is that Progressives cannot simply diddle about on the Internet and send money to some group to do our work for us. We can't abandon the blogosphere but we must be even more active on the streets.
q
Anybody who hasn't been locked in a closet for the past 40 years knows that in the US military spending has evolved from the default economic stimulus to the economic stimulus of choice.
What politician is going to question any kind of economic stimulus in today's economic environment?
I noticed and commented on MoveOn's refusal to condemn the build up (and relentless propaganda) to the Iran war-which was derailed by forces we don't even know about. Otherwise Bush and Co. would have been in Iran. Ir you ever saw the Born Again preachers talk on the need to invade Iran you would think you were watching a madhouse. "He speaks simultaneously to two audiences about Iran's nuclear capabilities: one that fears a terrorist attack by Iran and another that embraces a biblically mandated apocalypse. To impress the fearful, he mimics Bush's deceptions about Iraq's capacity to attack the United States with weapons of mass destruction, Condoleezza Rice's warnings of mushroom clouds, and Dick Cheney's dissembling about an alliance between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda. Comparing Ahmadinejad to Hitler, "-SARAH POSNER. I was amazed that MoveOn was not out front on this issue. I think it has to do with a believe that many have that these wars somehow make Israel more secure when in fact the opposite is clearly true.
That was the whole point of electing Obama! He stopped all the anti-everything movement. Dead in it's tracks. You can't get more than a hundred poeple to protest anything now! Why? Because Obama is President.
nicholas101,
You got it perfectly right. I 100% agree with you.
I didn't belong to MoveOn because from the start I knew it is just a partisan
organization for the Democratic party which is no different from the Republican party.
Are there any REAL differences between Bush's policies and Obama's policies??!! The answer is flat NO. The differences are in style and minor cosmetics on the fringes coupled by skilled oratory and toothpaste smile.
I guess for now we have to forget about the CHANGE and may be keep the HOPE!!.
MoveOn has been conspicuously silent regarding Israeli aggression, not just since the election but consistently. I stopped supporting MoveOn due to that a couple of years ago. This is basically another "I want to feel good about myself" liberal organization that doesn't really stand for anything.
Got it in one.
I stopped supporting MoveOn when they "asked" the membership who they should support, and Kucinich & Nader weren't on the ballot
I gave moral support to MoveOn, and happy to do so, signing online petitions and what not.
I'm sure glad I did not contribute any dinero.
One of the things Democrats do best is co-opting the opposition. It seems this is what is taking place with Moveon.org, so obviously, it's time to start a new effort to stop the wars. MoveOn has become an effete organization, unwilling to keep the pressure on, same for the post-election organization.
PST777
Excellent points. MoveOn has about as much chance of opposing Obama's occupations and military aggression as they have in urging Obama and Congress to call for an honest, open and independent investigation of what actually happened on Sept. 11, 2001. Perhaps MoveOn, along with Obama and the rest of the Democrats, agree with the incredibly apathetic left gatekeeper and alleged truthteller Noam Chomsky who claimed in an interview that was conducted at MIT in 2001 that "it doesn't matter" who carried out 9/11 and that he's not interested. Likewise, it appears that MoveOn does not care that innocent Afghans and Pakistanis are being slaughtered by America's bombs and drone missiles.
To call Noam Chomsky "the incredibly apathetic left gatekeeper and alleged truthteller" is very unfair treatment. Whether you agree with his stance re: 911 or not, you can't deny his consistent efforts on behalf of those without a voice in this culture and others all around the world. Chomsky was making public statements about Obama's continuation of the bombing in Pakistan shortly after the death of his wife, whom he'd known since they were children. He deserves respect for his efforts, even if you don't agree with everything (or anything) he does.
Paulsprawl
There is the rub, is it not? Chomsky will come out against American imperialism but will deride those who dare to question the events of Sept. 11, 2001 claiming that it is "totally insane" to, in effect, question the government's explanation of what took place on that particular day. I believe, that far from being unfair, it is quite valid to note that what Chomsky, of all people, is doing is basically attempting to discourage any type of dissent regarding the official version of what allegedly happened on 9/11/01. As I believe I stated earlier, in an interview that he gave in October of 2001, Chomsky stated that "it doesn't matter" who carried out 9/11 and that he is not interested in pursuing the matter. Not exactly stirring words from a person lauded from those on the left as being a seeker of truth.
I strongly suggest that you pick up a copy of Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-Up of 9/11 and turn to Ch. 5-The Shame of Noam Chomsky and the Gatekeepers of the Left. If you do, you would discover how the author {Barrie Zwicker] explains how he was fooled by Chomsky for so many years [just as I have been] and effectively and persuasively takes him to the woodshed for his casual approach toward 9/11 and Chomsky's dismissive attitude toward the damning evidence that has accumulated regarding the lies and falsehoods that the Bush administration has told regarding that fateful day in September of 2001 when supposedly 19 crazed Arab hijackers from the Middle East were able to overpower the passengers and flight crew, not with Uzi sub machine guns or with pistols or with machetes, but with box cutters. We are then supposed to believe that these [alleged] terrorists from the Middle East were able to outwit NORAD, the FAA and the United States Air Force in a country with the most sophisticated defense systems on this planet. Yet according to that revered leftist icon and critic of American imperialism Noam Chomsky, it is "totally insane" to even question the official government story as to what transpired on Sept. 11, 2001. I will take my chances on being labeled "totally insane" if that means, unlike Chomsky, that I and millions of others will have the temerity of questioning our less than truthful government.
NC's denial re 9-11, his flat scoffing at the notion, made my respect for him fall at free-fall speed into it's own footprint.
The Laws of Physics.
Silly me, I still believe in them!
I love the way you worded that!
Brilliant imagery & analogy...!
Sadly enough, I parted with Chomsky from the left when he made the statement that Palestinians should not ask for the right of return because they should only negotiate for what they could get.
http://www.chomsky.info/onchomsky/20040823.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Noam_Chomsky
Look, Chomsky has been great, but it's time to move past him and recognize he just isn't as progressive as we might wish.
That's a sharp misreading of Chomsky. Go back and check the transcript and look for context.
Bardamu
Chomsky is hoisted on his own petard in his own book entitled 9-11 when, as Barrie Zwicker notes in his book Towers of Deception, Chomsky accepts the government's story that the "likely perpetrators" of 9/11 are from the Middle East. Later on in his book Chomsky says that "it was assumed, plausibly, that the guilty parties were bin Laden and his al Qaeda network." As Barrie Zwicker observes, "Plausibly and yet, he [Chomsky] admits, contradictorily, 'the evidence is surprisingly thin' ". Also Zwicker points out that "surprisingly this evidence he finds plausible". Further: Chomsky writes "it was assumed, plausibly, that the guilty parties were bin Laden and his al Qaeda network." As Zwicker says He [Chomsky] loves this word, plausibly, which usually he ascribes to no one."
Zwicker correctly tells the reader the word plausible, which Chomsky loves to use, is the equivalent of the phrase "everyone knows" which does not make for a very authoritarian source of information. Regarding the context and the transcript of what Chomsky said in that interview in October of 2001, Chomsky says off handedly: "Whether [Islamic terrorists] were involved or not nobody knows. It doesn't really matter much." By saying this, Chomsky is hoping that no further discussion will take place regarding the events of 9/11/01. Again, not exactly what one would expect from such a truth teller and questioner of authority as Noam Chomsky.
I think that you are both right...
On one level... Chomsky is stating a truth...
That the perpetrators were from the middle east...
They were from Israel & Saudi Arabia ( & Pakistan)...
On another level... Errol is stating the truth...
that there were domestic operatives that carried out 9-11...
elements of the CIA, the FBI, the MIC, and the Banksters were all involved...
I believe that Chomsky & Zinn & Hersh & Goodman & others are brilliant and serve different, yet invaluable functions for bringing the public consciousness of politics to where it is now...
And there are numerous luminary minds who are speaking out about the things that they dare not mention...
And I also believe that other writers have built upon a solid foundation for others to frame the structure of our collective paradigm...
Perhaps it is not their function to connect certain dots... I am okay with them not needing to be the ones to voice a master narrative...
I can connect my own dots, by researching other voices that have taken the analysis even further... We need to be our own media...
And I respect for folks who can see beyond the limitations of our own heroes... So we can get closer to the brutal truth of reality...
I would caution against holding anyone up to too high of a standard of perfection... For each of us have our own flaws in our character...
Otherwise we wouldn't be here... We are here to take it to the next level... For there is no consensus of truth, and peoples personal opinions always tint their lenses in one way or another... It takes a clear vision to see through the filters that can fog up even the brightest of minds among us...
Sioux Rose
GOLDEN MEAN: You have very advanced reasoning powers, and seem like a 21st century "King Solomon" to me. Thank you for adding so much to the CD forum.
Professor Chomsky makes his case from within the confines of the MSM and from published accepted history. He uses their own words against them. Occasionally the MSM will let slip the truth slip. Chomsky also uses credible sources from within the alternate media. He usually footnotes what he says. Chomsky cannot afford to be associated with viewpoints that have been painted as 'looney." I know they aren't looney, but his critics would be salivating at the opportunity to paint him as a nut and derail him from other issues where he can make a difference.
Chomsky was one of the first intellectuals to openly describe what the Israeli's were doing to the Palestinians, at least as far back as the mid=70's. That took guts and if they could the Establishment would have gutted him for it. Notice what happedned with Dr. Fincklestein at DePaul. However, Chomsky's professional stature was so great that they could not. If he were to get involved in so-called conspiracy theories his usefulness would be much less diminished.
I believe the government killed JFK, RFK, and King. I believe the government was an active conspirator in 9/11. Chomsky, generally will not comment on these. So What?
We are all adults here in what generally passes for a democracy. Take what you want from the excellent, volumnious information Professor Chomsky has given and from other sources, as you please. However, there is no need to savagely attack this great man who has done so much for the understanding of how the US government really works.
Oh.....lol. MoveOn is a product folks. Someone is making big money off of a bunch of peoples desire to be able to buy their good character rather than build it.
Got them to a T!
I remember in the 60's, along with their John Birch Society's "Get US out of the UN" stickers on every parking meter, they used to pass out little comic books about how the Red Menance was corrupting our youth. One of the key story lines in the bookets was that after the revolution, the new masters would be just as bad as the old ones (and maybe worse).
Well, we have had our so-called "revolution" with the Obama election, and the comic books were right. As someone has posted before:
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."
Once it got a power base, Move On abandoned it principles and has done next to nothing to address the issues that brought it power. Everyone I know is disappointed in Move On.
"Save our Republic! Impeach Earl Warren!"
Another thing that I remember from the '60's (when I was in school) is reading Orwell's "Animal Farm," an allegory whose message is even more frighteningly applicable to current day America than it was to the Soviet Union, its original target.
q
Thanks for the reminder about the "Impeach Earl Warren" stickers. I had forgotten how prevalent those were as well.
It does go to show how persistent the right wing is.
Boycott and divest from MoveOn until they regain their moral bearings!
It is no secret that MoveOn does not accurately represent the wishes of its membership, which is why it has such a large x-membership.
What is "x-membership"?
I think it refers to former members.
Oh ok, Thx
Bring America Back !!!!.........Let me commend both baruchzed and quickstepper on their very astute and accurate response to Hayden's piece!
***Tom Hayden invites us to prove a negative when he analyzes the silence of Move-on.Org. I think he knows the answer but==like many former activists he gets beaten down to political correctness, or producing the written word which will bring in some bucks, despite missing he head of the nail completely .
***Move-on is soft on Zion !! Former CEO Eli Pariser, if I'm not mistaken was a card carrier of AIPAC; then just before leaving he joined a more moderate group known as JStreetPac.org==favoring the two-state solution in Israel.
***Not sure if the new guy Jason Ruben, is an AIPAC member or a JStreet member, but even the moderate group did a study indicating the Jews of America preponderantly favored Israel's attacks on GAZA! Not a whisper of protest then from MOveon about the Genocide at Gaza ! 15oo dead, including 300 to 400 innocent children !
***Not a whimper from MOveon regarding 9/11 Truth ! They just cannot cope with the fact that 9/11 was a false flag attack blamed on a Patsy boogieman cave-dweller and his merry band of 19 airline pilot flunkouts .
***Having seen Prez Obama back off, cave in, and totally reverse every campaign pledge, promise & inspirational speech he gave us, that leaves Moveon wondering where to go from here ???? Moveon was highly effective gaining votes for our new Prez and the hope, change, promise fairytale.
***MOveon has done some projects on the healthcare issue now facing our leaders, but instead of the Single Payer Plan promised us, Moveon has caved into the "Affordable for All'
alternative now being professed by Obama. In the New Age of the $100 hospital band-aid, and the practice of patient-dumping the uninsured==US Healthcare will Never again be "AFFORDABLE" !!! Please refer to the DVD titled "SICKO" by Michael Moore which is the true state of US Med Care !
Again, the truth on an issue is not a motivator to Moveon.
**Without over=proving my point that Moveon is really on the right side with Israel, not progressive lefties, I refer Tom Hayden back to his roots--he needs to get to the Library and obtain the book "They Dare To Speak Out" by former US Congressman Paul Findley===People and Institutions Confront Israel's Lobby.
**Again, both my buddy posters quickstepper and baruchzed know the score on MOveon, I know it, and Tom Hayden needs to come out of that protective shell, and admit he knows the why of Silence of MOveon. Remember, we all placed big bets on Prez Saviour Obama==now we are all losing BIg==including MOveon.
**Eli Pariser took some major rightwing heat from the full page add decrying General Betrayus==shortly prior to Pariser's departure==Now, Obama has adopted Betrayus as his feet on the War Ground also !! NOt a whisper of protest by Obama on the Gaza Genocide. Look for lots of Silence from Moveon on the Iran and North Korea issues, and they will encourage Obama to get his flight suit and his mission accomplished banner. So far he has fooled most of us Progressives, and is handing us "W"s Third Term in Office.
TK thanks for shining light on the unmentionable wandering troublemakers from Khazar.
Truthknoller,
I always like all of your posts, but I am shocked to find that you ACTUALLY voted for Obama. Surely, you're smarter than that! All true progressives should have voted third party - I don't care which - but remaining inside of the illusion that the two-party duopoly is anything other than separate sides of the same coin is keeeping people out of the white house that could really make change - like Mckinney, Nader, those from the Peace and Freedom party and more. I should hope that you didn't fall for the silly idea that because Obama is rather, er, rich in melanin, that that would be enough to put someone in the white house who would actually make any change that could actually be tangible or at least some change the anti-war and anti-chaos progressive could be proud of.
Why is everyone so shocked? Move On are Democrats.
Exactly. The only difference between Democrats and Republicans are the names they go by.
Right and left pockets of the same pair of pants.
"LET'S RULE" instead of move on--total sell-out to system--we will not make any head way with the same crappy people that gave us what? Bubba, Dubba,
R=REVOLT
U=UNITE
L=Liberty
E=END THE WARS
"Let's Rule" needs to start with YOU--Will you help us Really make some drastic changes--that you would die for if necessary...?(you are already dying in a world not of your making)
THE CODE TO RULE IS THIS: UNITE, REVOLT, END THE WARS, LIBERTY
Move on helped elect Obama. Without Move On McCain -Palin would be running the country with all its consequences. But as a supporter of Move-On I urge that it end its silence re Iraq, Afghanistan and Israel. Move-On should nudge Obama from the left. Otherwise his Wall Street and Pentagon advisers will push him to the right. Obama needs our help. I believe his heart is in the South Chicago projects but his political pragmatism can lead him astray. I'm rooting for Obama to do the right (viz.left) thing.
Move on helped elect Obama. Without Move On McCain -Palin would be running the country with all its consequences. But as a supporter of Move-On I urge that it end its silence re Iraq, Afghanistan and Israel. Move-On should nudge Obama from the left. Otherwise his Wall Street and Pentagon advisers will push him to the right. Obama needs our help. I believe his heart is in the South Chicago projects but his political pragmatism can lead him astray. I'm rooting for Obama to do the right (viz.left) thing.
Obama was elected by the Independents and moderates, mostly white. You may condfirm this by looking at the Primary and the voter tallies.
He won't get their votes again so he is a one term President. He has wasted our opportunity...AGAIN the Democrats are handed a victory and they reject it by their intolerance, stupidity and greed.
MoveOn doesn't help anyone but themselves.
Very seldom I do Thomas ..but..I disagree...Unless the republicans can pull of a miracle...but who knows....
"MoveOn doesn't help anyone but themselves.'
I certainly agree with that Thomas....
BTW..I am not really a fan of Tom Hayden......but.......
The real winner of the 2008 Presidential election was John McCain...He won by losing....I know if I were Obama I would have sat that one out........
The frustrations expressed here have nothing to with Democrats or Republicans and everything to with a system totally dominated by very powerful interest groups. One man or woman cannot change this system.(Republican, Democrat, or Independent.) Throw out the current administration in 2012 and what you will end up with is the same system. Any reformation will take years. Certainly not days or months...
You have a President in the White House but remember that somewhere out there sits an unknown and very powerful board of directors.(Metaphorically speaking) The real powers behind this illusion of democratically elected self government...Reform must come from the bottom up. The top is just too corrupted.
But..I am still an optimist..Or Perhaps just too stupid to give up....
Dante,
You've triggered a deeply buried persistent fear of mine which I've never before spoken: that Obama was elected to take the fall for the collapse of the economy, and that's why he got so much Wall Street money. Roosevelt didn't take power until the bottom of the depression, so Hoover took the blame. Obama may preside over four years of continuing collapse into a deeper abyss, and the sprawling shanty-towns on the edge of our cities with their thousands of starving children will be remembered as Obamavilles. Under a barrage of media propaganda people are already starting to forget that this began on Bush's watch.
I just hope we can find some way to give him a backbone; if his administration is a dirty trick, I still believe he's the patsy, not one of the villains. But he's surrounded himself with villains, and so that is what he will become if he's just an ordinary mortal like the rest of us. The only thing we can do is organize and step up the pressure, and keep hoping that at some point he'll face the writing on the wall and jump to our side of the fence he's trying to straddle.
Chris Horton
Obama was elected to prop up the system by any means necessary, and sugarcoat it as "change." It worked. It doesn't matter to Wall Street if it's a Democrat or Republican as long as they tow the corporate line.
Sioux Rose
BLESS: Good point, however, as David Michael Green explains, this SHOULD be the end of the Republican party, and by using Obama as the smokescreen upon which to project all that's gone wrong, too many voters will presume that the "other" team provides for better management. Thus a path is being paved to resuscitate the beast. RICH M often relates (in his own wise & skillful way) how the two parties function as a good cop/bad cop ensemble, so that the net effect over the past 35 years has been to push all political decisions, policies, and priorites further to the right.
A problem with the short attention span of most Americans, added to the lack of truth and accuracy in media, is that many will take the cause for all that's gone wrong as the path to positive change, thus endowing villains with the power to do yet more harm. It reminds me of the theme of Shakespeare's "Richard III," My 11th grade English teacher's favorite tragedy.
The one thing that will act to break up this monopoly will be climate events, added to the bottom dropping out on our economy that's leveraged very real assets against a gigantic pile of illusory capital. These twin factors will face the ever- increasing inevitability of violent blowback, the karmic return on our "investments" afar.
Last night I finally got to see "Charlie Wilson's War" and one message the "good Americans" gave to the Afghanis was that they would protect them from all the violent harm perpetrated by the Soviets. The U.S. portrayed itself as the savior. Now with the U.S. being the perpetrators of so much violence, its own mantra, "that the wicked be PUNISHED" will return to haunt U.S. No nation is above Universal law, nor can it afford the hubristic, "He who lives by the sword dies by the sword." This truth made all the worse that our nation, bankrupt morally and fiscally, chooses war and armanents over the ways and means to feed, clothe, and heal its citizens. A tragedy of epoch, global proportions is unfolding in our midst.
Excellent post Sioux Rose...
I agree, excellent post.
Sioux Rose
Thank you both, Dante & Leea.