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The Disease of Permanent War
It was a decline into permanent war, not Islam, which killed the liberal, democratic movements in the Arab world, ones that held great promise in the early part of the 20th century in countries such as Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iran. It is a state of permanent war that is finishing off the liberal traditions in Israel and the United States. The moral and intellectual trolls-the Dick Cheneys, the Avigdor Liebermans, the Mahmoud Ahmadinejads - personify the moral nihilism of perpetual war. They manipulate fear and paranoia. They abolish civil liberties in the name of national security. They crush legitimate dissent. They bilk state treasuries. They stoke racism.
"War," Randolf Bourne commented acidly, "is the health of the state."
In "Pentagon Capitalism" Seymour Mellman described the defense industry as viral. Defense and military industries in permanent war, he wrote, trash economies. They are able to upend priorities. They redirect government expenditures towards their huge military projects and starve domestic investment in the name of national security. We produce sophisticated fighter jets, while Boeing is unable to finish its new commercial plane on schedule and our automotive industry goes bankrupt. We sink money into research and development of weapons systems and neglect renewable energy technologies to fight global warming. Universities are flooded with defense-related cash and grants, and struggle to find money for environmental studies. This is the disease of permanent war.
Massive military spending in this country, climbing to nearly $le1 trillion a year and consuming half of all discretionary spending, has a profound social cost. Bridges and levees collapse. Schools decay. Domestic manufacturing declines. Trillions in debts threaten the viability of the currency and the economy. The poor, the mentally ill, the sick and the unemployed are abandoned. Human suffering, including our own, is the price for victory.
Citizens in a state of permanent war are bombarded with the insidious militarized language of power, fear and strength that mask an increasingly brittle reality. The corporations behind the doctrine of permanent war-who have corrupted Leon Trotsky's doctrine of permanent revolution-must keep us afraid. Fear stops us from objecting to government spending on a bloated military. Fear means we will not ask unpleasant questions of those in power. Fear means that we will be willing to give up our rights and liberties for security. Fear keeps us penned in like domesticated animals.
Mellman, who coined the term permanent war economy to characterize the American economy, wrote that since the end of the Second World War, the federal government has spent more than half its tax dollars on past, current, and future military operations. It is the largest single sustaining activity of the government. The military industrial establishment is a very lucrative business. It is gilded corporate welfare. It comes with guaranteed profits. Defense systems are sold before they are produced. Military industries are permitted to charge the federal government for huge cost overruns. Massive profits are always guaranteed.
Foreign aid is given to countries such as Egypt, which receives some $3 billion in assistance and is required to buy American weapons with $1.3 billion of the money. The taxpayers fund the research, development and building of weapons systems and then buy them on behalf of foreign governments. It is a bizarre circular system. It defies the concept of a free-market economy. These weapons systems are soon in need of being updated or replaced. They are hauled, years later, into junk yards where they rust. It is, in economic terms, a dead end. It sustains nothing but the permanent war economy.
Those who profit from permanent war are not restricted by the economic rules of producing goods, selling them for a profit, then using the profit for further investment and production. They operate, rather, outside of competitive markets. They erase the line between the state and the corporation. They leech away the ability of the nation to manufacture useful products and produce sustainable jobs. Mellman used the example of the New York City Transit Authority and its allocation in 2003 of $3 billion to $4 billion for new subway cars. New York City asked for bids, and no American companies responded. Melman argued that the industrial base in America was no longer centered on items that maintain, improve, or are used to build the nation's infrastructure. New York City eventually contracted with companies in Japan and Canada to build its subway cars. Mellman estimated that such a contract could have generated, directly and indirectly, about 32,000 jobs in the United States. In another instance, of 100 products offered in the 2003 L.L. Bean catalogue, Mellman found that ninety-two were imported and only eight were made in the United States.
The late Senator J. William Fulbright described the reach of the military-industrial establishment in his 1970 book "The Pentagon Propaganda Machine." Fulbright explained how the Pentagon influenced and shaped public opinion through multimillion dollar public relations campaigns, Defense Department films, close ties with Hollywood producers, and use of the commercial media. The majority of the military analysts on television are former military officials, many employed as consultants to defense industries, a fact they rarely disclose to the public. Barry R. McCaffrey, a retired four-star Army general and military analyst for NBC News, was, The New York Times reported, at the same time an employee of Defense Solutions, Inc., a consulting firm. He profited, the article noted, from the sale of the weapons systems and expansion of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan he championed over the airwaves.
Our permanent war economy has not been challenged by Obama and the Democratic Party. They support its destructive fury because it funds them. They validate its evil assumptions because to take them on is political suicide. They repeat the narrative of fear because it keeps us dormant. They do this because they have become weaker than the corporate forces that profit from permanent war.
The hollowness of our liberal classes, such as the Democrats, empowers the moral nihilists. A state of permanent war means the inevitable death of liberalism. Dick Cheney may be palpably evil while Obama is merely weak, but to those who seek to keep us in a state of permanent war it does not matter. They get what they want. Fyodor Dostoevsky wrote Notes from the Underground to illustrate what happens to cultures when a liberal class, like ours, becomes sterile, defeated dreamers. The main character in Notes from the Underground carries the bankrupt ideas of liberalism to its logical extreme. He becomes the enlightenment ideal. He eschews passion and moral purpose. He is rational. He prizes realism over sanity, even in the face of self-destruction. These acts of accommodation doom the Underground Man, as it doomed imperial Russia and as it will doom us.
"I never even managed to become anything: neither wicked nor good, neither a scoundrel nor an honest man, neither a hero nor an insect," the Underground Man wrote. "And now I am living out my life in my corner, taunting myself with the spiteful and utterly futile consolation that it is even impossible for an intelligent man seriously to become anything, and only fools become something."
We have been drawn into the world of permanent war by these fools. We allow fools to destroy the continuity of life, to tear apart all systems, economic, social, environmental and political, that sustain us. Dostoevsky was not dismayed by evil. He was dismayed by a society that no longer had the moral fortitude to confront the fools. These fools are leading us over the precipice. What will rise up from the ruins will not be something new, but the face of the monster that has, until then, remained hidden behind the facade.
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Show All"Those who profit from permanent war are not restricted by the economic rules of producing goods, selling them for a profit, then using the profit for further investment and production. They operate, rather, outside of competitive markets. They erase the line between the state and the corporation. They leech away the ability of the nation to manufacture useful products and produce sustainable jobs."
Filled with half truths of course, but this is not one of them.
So what is the full "truth" Thomas? Can you identify that one special being on the planet that represents and speaks from a place of integrity without error? Does Obama represent such a being in your view? And if not, do you ever negatively critique him, or is that only reserved for the prophetic voices like Chris?
This is precisely what keeps the American discussion so narrow -- and it seems to be worse today than ever. The mainstream media tells the public what to think, and those who have an absence of curiosity accept what they are told without question.
So, the media told you that there is a liberal/progressive faction that puts Barack Obama on a god-like pedestal, right? We heard all those rantings from the mainstream media, most loudly during the final six months of the campaign. Note that we didn't hear this from progressives, for a very good reason: outside of the media, no one put Obama on a pedestal. The middle-to-left has never held back their criticism of Obama. That, folks, is the duty of every American -- to stay informed, and to speak out when criticism is due. It is anti-American to "faithfully" go along with everything any politician tells us.
Obama falls well short of "the ideal president", but was simply the best choice, a person who is obviously capable of handling the complex and dangerous situation we have today. America is tired of testosterone-driven politics, and now wants to try to deal with the real issues, in a realistic way. I, personally, often disagree with the president, but on balance, we're going in the only direction we can go if we want to avoid seeing the nation completely collapse. It will take a long, long time to repair all the damage caused over the past 30-40 years, but we are at least getting a start. That's the best we can hope for.
Hi Thomas More,
I don't know what you mean by half truths here. I wrote a separate post on this thread. Is that what you mean by half truths? By the way, thank you for standing up for me. I expected some debate when I gave away my general job cred info but not outright hostility. Sometimes, between the conservatives and the progressives and liberals, I cannot tell which to identify with when one side or the other gets downright nasty. Thank you for your kind words.
Maxpayne,
Thomas More is a right-wing conservative posing as a progressive. His posts often fluctuate from the semi-sensible to laughable.
Oh gee wilikers. So now I'm to believe that I was rescued by a rightwing conservative yesterday? I don't buy that. First off, I don't know Thomas More but I'll have to read his posts before I can decide whether or not to agree with you on that. Second, I've been shot at by a lot of progressives and liberals and much as I've been shot at by conservatives on both extremes perhaps because I'm a mixed moderate but no problem. I thought Thomas More was reasonable when he was one of those who stood up for me even when I was getting shot at by some of the fringes yesterday in another topic on single payer healthcare. Frankly, I don't care if he's Republican, Democrat, or whatever as long as he's willing to engage in a civil and reasonable discussion and so far he's demonstrated it even when he and I had our issues on guns, he's cool in my book.
Perhaps I ought to clarify. There are times when Thomas's posts are very sensible. And there are times when his posts make no sense at. That is not to judge Thomas as a bad person. Not at all. I just happen not to be a big fan of his posts, and for the most part, stay silent about it. There are times when my posts are good, and times when they stink (I try to minimize those). Yesterday, I did not get a chance to read the posts CD, so obviously I missed what happened. If he defended you in a civil and reasonable way, kudos for him.
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Sioux Rose
Thomas More is kind, but he was and remains indoctrinated by his military background.
I would have thought you, Mr. Payne, might have learned something from this piece of excellent writing by Mr. Hedges. So many people excuse their own actions not seeing how these fit into the mosaic that makes evil possible.
I was NOT nasty. Honesty and nasty are not the same thing, but for those who find the truth difficult, inconvenient or accusatory, that might be their best defense.
"Thomas More is kind, but he was and remains indoctrinated by his military background."
So let me get this straight. Because Mr. More has a military background and has been accustomed to it, he's wrong ? He's at least tolerant and understanding of others and not some "my way or the highway" jerk.
"I would have thought you, Mr. Payne, might have learned something from this piece of excellent writing by Mr. Hedges."
Most of what he wrote I've read and learned years ago. I haven't seen much progressiveness, have you?
"So many people excuse their own actions not seeing how these fit into the mosaic that makes evil possible."
This kind of hate talk is the reason progressives and liberals are bleeding. So if I gave up my job, got thrown out into the streets and was a poor and naked soul leaving my wife in tears and my family disappointed and losing my friends, I'm progressive ? Not so fast ! There are things in life I don't give up and I have a right to them whether you like it or not. I'm as healthy an eater and an exerciser as you are. I know you cannot stand it that some of us work where we're not supposed to but fail to understand that we really have no other choice other than your extremist alternatives which we respectfully decline. Now calm down and relax. I know a lot of spiritual stuff and some of it I follow, some of it I don't because I can't. It's that simple.
Sioux Rose
MAX: I would like this to be my LAST correspondence to you. There are 3 things I am going to say:
1. For someone employed you spend a lot of time posting here. Curious.
2. You have an insidious capacity to turn the issue of where you work into a character indictment against those who draw the larger links for you.
3. You hear nothing that doesn't conform to your rationalizations. And that is why I am done responding to your posts. You have been given enough to go on. A variety of persons have made valid points in the form of a timely "wake-up call." Stay asleep as you wish.
"MAX: I would like this to be my LAST correspondence to you. "
I don't know who the hell you are to begin with but fine with me. Go off in your own prejudgmental world where you belong. There are others on this site who are far more honest, tolerant, and understanding of our plight than you'll ever be. Your bashing of those who work in places not of your liking even as they have virtually no other choice shows just how far out of touch you really are. You never had anything nice to say thanks to your prejudgmental hatred so I wouldn't miss you anyway. IF YOU HAVE NOTHING NICE TO SAY THEN SHUT UP AND DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL !
"1. For someone employed you spend a lot of time posting here. Curious."
For someone who claims to be spiritual, I could say the same of you. And FYI, I'm taking the day off because I had to take care of my wife today. Right now, I happen to be sort of free. Besides, what the hell do you do for a living anyway?
"2. You have an insidious capacity to turn the issue of where you work into a character indictment against those who draw the larger links for you."
No, you're the one who's failing to see the larger picture and expect others to live in your ideal world.
"3. You hear nothing that doesn't conform to your rationalizations. And that is why I am done responding to your posts. You have been given enough to go on. A variety of persons have made valid points in the form of a timely "wake-up call." Stay asleep as you wish."
Speak for yourself. The more you show your arrogance, hatred, intolerance, and prejudgmental attitudes, the more karma will bite you back. You should practice what you preach before trying to bash others who aren't like you. And I saw your post where you hate your own sister in CA just because she's wealthy. Despicable !
Sioux Rose
You said I hate my sister, which is a LIE and shows your entire lack of integrity, how you bend truth to suit your own circumstances. I pointed out that my sister takes a very shallow view of Buddhist philosophy.
You are filled with intolerance. I am pointing out what I consider to be a poor employment choice. I feel that way about other occupations, too, like the insurance field, but I think the military machine gets top rating. After all, its purpose is to KILL. Make sure you dry clean the blood stains from your paycheck.
"You said I hate my sister, which is a LIE and shows your entire lack of integrity, how you bend truth to suit your own circumstances. I pointed out that my sister takes a very shallow view of Buddhist philosophy."
Look, just come clean and calm down and take it easy. Nobody's perfect but that doesn't mean you have to go crying about it. So my misjudgment. There, move on.
"You are filled with intolerance. I am pointing out what I consider to be a poor employment choice. I feel that way about other occupations, too, like the insurance field, but I think the military machine gets top rating. After all, its purpose is to KILL. Make sure you dry clean the blood stains from your paycheck."
Ok, then by your own rantings, the unemployment rate would go up to at least 90% if we got everyone off the jobs connected to the war machine, directly or indirectly. I'd love to work in a non-DoD related job that helps me keep up with the rising costs of living and taxes but it ain't available much as you and your friends here wanna claim otherwise without proof.
Hi Max...
I want to say that I understand your situation, military contractors are the largest and highest paying employers in all fifty states and in the most populous counties... I understand your intrinsic needs to provide for your family and maintain your stature in your community...
Those are honorable values, and I believe that you should not compromise it for anything...
However, I don't believe that things are always mutually exclusive... I believe in creative solutions, not compromise...
Applying your skills in a different industry does not mean you need to go on welfare or be homeless...
There are millions of self-employed entrepreneurs out there, millions more working in the non-profit sector, or working the trades...
There are many options if you choose to explore or create them...
If your conscience is restless due to your line of work, then you need to listen... And make whatever changes in location or employer...
With the public disclosure of war profiteers running torture camps and killing millions of humans and animals in wars of agression...
There is no longer any excuse for "just doin' my job"... That was Eichman's excuse for being a pencil pusher for the Nazis, and he was found guilty at the Nuremburg Trials...
Be grateful that you live in a society that it is possible to quit your job and find another... The Good Germans didn't even have that option...
Since Iraq & AfPak are Wars for Profit by the Corporatists using our soldiers to secure their privatized resources... I feel really bad for the Nat'l Guard troops who signed up to protect our own borders, and are being sent to slaughter in another land...
I have no sympathy for the hardships of those that enlisted to fight in another land, or the mercenaries and contractors like Blackwatwr, or the pencil pushers back in the "Homeland" who choose to work for the DoD or a military contractor manufacturing weapons systems...
Your moniker suits you well...
Sioux
GM: I and others spent considerable time and effort spelling these options out to Max yesterday, and that is why my patience with his insidious self-centered "argue for his limitations" rants is at its end. Good luck getting through.
You and your friends couldn't even make a point. Instead you invented fairy tales to try to make me feel guilty without understanding the hell we're all going through. If you really think people are gonna listen to your idealist rant and go spiritual and sing Kumbaya, then you're deluded and need help. We have to be realistic and practical here. Now why don't you just calm down, relax, and take it easy. Tough times ahead, by your astrological predictions there will be doom and gloom starting in 2010, and you're upset to come across someone working for something you don't like even when it ain't his own fault. My programming in the company has actually helped quite a few local small business customers that aren't DoD related. If it weren't for me, they wouldn't be sustaining. I don't see much of your accomplishments. You're beginning to sound more like an angry Edith Bunker here. Even Archie Bunker had some sanity in him.
You're missing the point. Until there is more of an alternative to the war economy, nothing will change. Easy for you to act like a rightwinger and say "well just go find another job" Your comparison of soldiers and workers to German Nazis is way out of bounds and totally unAmerican. I don't just go settling for any Tom, Dick, and Harry jobs such as working a minimum wage job at Walmart. I like to work with computers and programming and don't mind putting my mind and skills to it. Plus, I believe in fair pay for fair work, not socialized pay. If you had actually read this article, you progressives and liberals would actually have a clue as to what's wrong with you and your adding to the already societal intolerance. Until you progressives and liberals provide an alternative job infrastructure, keep your preaching to yourself. And what have you progressives and liberals done about the outsourcing, insourcing, hiring illegal labor, etc ... of jobs done ? Nothing but bring us to where we're at today. Some contractors and soldiers are mean but not all of them are the same. You need to stop your obnoxious prejudice and see the real picture.
I just posted this on the Donna Smith healthcare article forum, but I see you are here so I will repost this here.
Dear Max, you are, I am guessing, about the age of my son who is almost 25. He too is in IT work. When he entered high school they told him Math/computer science was where his aptitude was high, and since there were so many jobs opening up in this field he should concentrate his studies in that direction. So he did, went to an alternative trade school, then put himself through 2 years of community college for an associate's degree. But of course by that time huge portions of the industry were outsourced. He finally did find a good job building custom computers. Of course he has no idea what people are going to do with them after they get them, but he does not directly work for agents of the MIC.
So I can sympathize with you on so many levels.
You seem to be saying, "Look at this fucked-up world you assholes handed me, I'm just trying to live in it." Most young people who are paying attention go through this phase.
I think the point most posters here are trying to make is that WHEN you DO have a choice, make the right one. You seem to be saying that in order to live as you want, you MUST make the decision to work for an agent of the MIC.
You seem to be wrestling with your own conscience, trying to convince yourself that you have made the only proper choice.
We urge you to want less, buy less, drive less, etc. as a way to ease your need to work for the MIC.
The truth is difficult to hear but it is this: the change you want to see will be brought about because enough people are in PAIN. A small fraction of your work involves helping our government to KILL. When that fact causes you enough pain, you will change. I believe you are on your way.
I'm in my early 40s. I'm not just a programmer but a Systems Analyst and Engineer. Trust me. I don't wanna be stuck where I'm at forever. If I can make enough to break out and start my own, then I'll be on my way. I should be able to make it sometime within the next decade or so. I've also been doing what Nader has done to generate some more cash growth. Invest in stocks and mutual funds in energy and defense industries so that in time my wife and I can snatch enough and pave way for empowering local business growth and even donations to worthy causes. Yeah, maybe I'm jailing and torturing myself a bit too long but I've been used to it and don't intend to deviate from my ultimate goal of helping out. Sometimes, you have to play low at first but then when you get what it takes, then you make a dash for it. Risky? Yep. But I'm not seeing any other true alternatives. Some of my programming work goes to DOD related projects and some non-DOD. But don't forget one thing. I'm still fighting for single payer healthcare for all of us out here so let's get back to it.
Perhaps you could value your co-workers a little more, Max. We all understand that you have credentials and a very high opinion of your professional abilities. The statement in the other thread, "For example, my job is complex and mind intensive programming assignments while my coworker next to me is "just" a helpdesk person." provided a glimpse into your mindset.
I submit that everyone contributes to the success of an organization, even if they are "just" filling a position you consider menial. There really is no need to be quite so contemptuous of others, no matter how high your opinion is of yourself. One day you may be dismayed to learn that there is someone in Bangalore that is quite capable of performing your function, leaving you available to post here all the time.
I agree but there has to be a limit somewhere. There was a post in another topic where maxpayne nailed it where he said that for all the talk from us on supporting the idea that the punishment fit the crime that the amount of pay fit the nature of the work. Value workers? No doubt about it. But we also need to value work along with it. Can't be too socialist out there.
Well said max.
Hedges states the long overdue truth about the state engaged in permanent war, the nation diminished to servitude. A great essay with one disappointing omission: He forgets to mention - ISRAEL receives 3 billion dollars a year of American tax payer money - most of it spent to perpetuate its permanent war industry. Israel buys much of its technology and weapons from U.S. industries. During the first intifada, in 1990, I was told by an Israeli colonel, "If the U.S. ever cuts its foreign aid to Israel we would negotiate with the Palestinians for a two state solution immediately". Source: Israelis for Peace, Z magazine, February, 1990, by Moe Seager.
"War does not determine who is right - only who is left."
Bertrand Russell
Great article. How to break the momentum of this insane runaway train is the question. Getting our mouths off television's crystal nipple would be a fair start. It's a fountain of infinite poison regardless of what channel you're on. Look out the window and in your paycheck - the real story's right there.
"Look out the window and in your paycheck" - How true! My cousin's family are all (fortunately for them) gainfully employed. He works selling hospital equipment for a large corporation (former medical education), she works for a large financial institution (formerly a librarian), the daughter works for Raytheon (MIC, big time) and the son (the 'artist') works on ultra-violent video games.
Until there is a draft and/or mandatory military service by all people, this will continue. But, as long as we have an all-volunteer military and paid mercenaries nothing will change. Chumps like Limbaugh and Cheney avoid the military, then shout, "WAR WAR WAR." Both of them are cowards, afraid of people like Saddam Hussein, who only became strong because Cheney et al provided him with billion$ during the Reagan and Bush #1 years. Start the draft and the peace protests of the 1960's will return.
I agree that Limbaugh and Cheney avoided the military and thus are a couple of cowards, but so did Obama who is escalating the war in Afghanistan (where no occupying force has prevailed since Alexander the Great) and intends to keep 50K troops in Iraq indefinately.
you've said this several times about the draft. where do you get this from? plenty of societies have had compulsory service and it hasn't stopped them from war (the examples are innumerable, but the US in both korea & vietnam come to mind, both wars horribly immoral & unnecessary in my mind.)
Israel has compulsory military service as well. Not exactly a shining example of peace, is it?
France, Russia and China to name three other countries that have compulsory service. France hasn't launched a major war since the end of the 18 early 19th century, but they have fought wars since then. Russia also hasn't launched any major wars in the last century (invading Afghanistan wasn't a major war), same with China.
It compulsory in Switzerland as well as Finland and Norway. Quite frankly I think if you look at a list of nations with Compulsory service as to Non Compulsory, there little linkage in the propensity to go to war.
Countries liek Argentina, Costa Rica , Italy , New Zealand and Japan all have non compulsory service.
I do not think the solution lies there.
Not a mention in the article or comments regarding The Iron Mountain Report? A must read in regard to this subject.
http://www.projectcamelot.org/Report_from_Iron
_from_Iron_Mountain.pdf
this link is dead
Better link...
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/
iron_mountain_full.htm
great book - I remember it coming out and causing a good stink.
you're right that more should read it.
"fear means we will not ask unpleasant questions of those in power." therein lies the problem. while over at truthout, steve weissman is blaming, in part, the general population for our slide into the current sad state of affairs.
so where are the journalists and the pundits - in obvious positions to do so - with a large enough set of balls and a spine of solid enough construction to ask the damning questions? over and over and over until we get the correct answers? then, once the correct answers are given, where are the outlets who will give the information to the general population, so that they, the general population, can take decisive measures against the fearmongers? continuing on, where are the investigative journalists and pundits and outlets who will then report on the decisive measures taken by the general population? although generally brilliant in your writing style, mr. hedges, i submit that until the hoodwinked journalists and pundits get off their collective asses and start digging in the huge piles of dirt before their faces, and then reporting on said dirt with the bullhorns at their disposal, we the general population, will continue to read these boohoowoeisme articles.
"our permanent war economy has not been challenged by obama and the democratic party." nor by sound investigative journalism.
I agree that we need to reform the media that is now part of the war machine. A media that stands for the people and not the elites will increase our chances of paving the road to putting the war machines to a peaceful rest.
That was a very thoughtful response. It's too bad lino wrote a very vulgar trashy post against you and it was uncalled for. This forum lacks civility and respect it seems. Except for Thomas More and BeForKids and a few others, I find most users on this forum very cantankerous and obnoxious all too often. I have already noticed the ganging and teaming up of divisions of people on this forum and looking at the war going on in this thread and even on the comments section of this site in general, I think progressives and liberals need to sit down and learn to work out their differences and have some discipline if they are going to win.
Sioux Rose
LINO: There is Seymour Hersh and Mr. Hedges, on the "hold them to account" front, other important voices, on the environmental sell-out, yet others. The media is owned by those interests that directly benefit from war and the desecration of ecosystems. Therefore those journalists and lawyers who DO care and who have dedicated themselves to making cases FOR justice and fair principle, are largely NOT heard, not allowed in mainstream media. IF the public knew the truth, if at this point in time so long fed a diet of dis-information, they could discern that truth, we would see a greater response. Diverse forms of conditioning have for the most part acted in concert to disempower the public.
Mr. Hedges in this well-articulated piece brilliantly makes the case I have sought to share in this forum: That in the U.S. Mars rules, and to the degree the U.S. stands as a role model (less so lately due to its horrific track record in a number of areas) to other nations, it leads them down this same sinister, spiritually suicidal path. And so poor nations buy arms, instead of food for their poor.
Half our resources go to wars, imagine! And what do we, as a nation have to show for it? A case could be made by symbolic parallel that just as the current legion of troups returning from Iraq with various forms of mental disorders, our nation which has lived off the fat of these wars, now suffers as a sizable proportion of its own population is sick, obese, depressed, addicted to drugs, alcoholic, victims of gun shot wounds, highway fatalities, environmental disasters, homeless, uninsured for medical needs, etc. The priorities when Mars rules (placing war and weapons above every other sane expenditure) are on display. Our economy is DIRECTLY responsible for so much pain and destruction to so many. I can't wait for David to shoot this Goliath down. And I'm very glad Mr. Hedges explains the ramifications of priorities based on death and killing, in a nation that loves to tout "right to life" and make similar chants to its righteousness. SICKENING.
"The hollowness of our liberal classes, such as the Democrats, empowers the moral nihilists."
Is this why soldiers and even good workers who have nowhere else to turn to for employment but DoD get persecuted? I would not limit this to Democrats and Republicans alone. Yesterday, I made the case that even as a defense contractor, I saw the need for single payer and I even came out in strong support of it but guess what happened? Personal hate attacks calling me a "war criminal" and so on so forth as if I was Rambo returning from Vietnam. I already had a tough enough time trying to reason with conservatives but here I am finding it just as tough trying to help find a home in the progressive community. I may not have served in Vietnam or Iraq but having met soldiers who have served one or both, I understand a lot of societal hate they are forced to go through when they return home and are treated as unwelcome murderers or something like that. And yet most of these same anti-war folks elect and reelect the same pols who put us all through this mess again and again. I may work for a defense contractor company but half of my projects were associated with smaller business customers that relied on our applications that we program all the time. In fact, a couple of small businesses in my area would not have survived had it not been for my contribution in programming those applications. I understand the anger against the war and the Military Industrial Complex and I share it too. However, it's good to know that some people on this site are sympathetic and tolerant of the fact that it is the system and the pols and business elites that run it, not us workers and soldiers, who are to blame. I program and submit my work to production. Where it goes I am not authorized to control. Sometimes, it goes to good causes and sometimes it doesn't. My company has customers of various industries. Likewise, when soldiers are to serve and protect, they too face tough choices and dilemmas. Protesting is one thing but at some point, collective tolerance and understanding of each other's differences and working on better solutions to force competition is the only way out.
Mr. Hedges, I would also like to thank you for pointing out the fact that even in the progressive realm, when it comes to giving aid to Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and other dictatorships aside from Israel are often ignored and that those of us who bring it up are unfairly attacked as "pro-Israeli". There are good things I love about Israel but not the warmongers running the country.
I strongly agree that we need to bring back our manufacturing base and go local. Unfortunately, on yesterday's post, I noticed a lot of very hostile folks mislabelling themselves as "progressive" and calling for those of us currently with no way out to give up our jobs, call ourselves guilty, and go homeless and butt naked. If these same foul brains would get out there and help us fight for a better infrastructure and decent paying jobs for more people, then those of us working in jobs in the defense sector or even related to it will have a better chance of switching securely without oversacrificing ourselves. If more progressives and liberals would learn to be civil and sympathetic to the plight of others and actually help pave the way for long term cures instead of imitating rightwing bullies, we all would win and the war machine would be put to a peaceful rest.
THANK YOU.
maxpayne, you yourself illustrate and are living the dilemma of many, many americans (unfortunately, unlike yourself, many don't see any "dilemma" in it). we make war, that's what we do.
almost every single industry & business in this country is in some way, to a greater or lesser degree, implicated in the war industry. almost none of us can be said to be innocent of in some way contributing to the war economy.
bear in mind that in places like CD and other "progressive sites", you are seeing what is in fact a tiny minority view in this country. some of the commentators, incl. myself at times, get so self-righteous about these things, expressing severe disdain for the real, average, people who have to live their daily lives in the reality of a warrior state. (on a different topic, just take a gander at the idiotic, ignorant bile spilled on these pages by some when the subject of religion comes up. the hatred of the coping mechanisms of the lower/middle classes is profound.)
one correction: the overwhelming majority of americans are not spitting on soldiers as "baby-killers" or some such. total myth, now, and in the vietnam war. americans love them some soldiers.
Thank you RLT. I appreciate your candor and understanding. None of us are perfect but one of these days we'll get it right on whatever issue. I know what you mean by religion. When I confess that I'm a white male Christian, then some will mistake me as a zionist Christian which I am not. I've had my days of arguing for and against various religions but in the end, I say we're all human anyway. I guess that some people take these forums as the perfect place to dump their hormones. I'll admit that I used to do it too but have slowly pulled out. Life's too short to be getting too warlike and we already have war pols dragging this country into wars and in the process a war based economy.
Maxpayne,
What you have to understand is many people including myself are outraged at the military brass, the mainstream media, and the Bush Administration. When torture becomes acceptable, a network of secret redition flights is created, a group of lawyers weave a toxic web to stamp out the Constitution and Geneva Convention Regulations to protect those who are commiting war crimes, and military generals oversee torture camps that are classified as "state secrets," all parties involved need to be confronted, tried, and incarcerated. All of this is so blatant and disgraceful that to defend it, to me, is unconscionable. What would be helpful is for insiders like you who have an edge, to help us combat the beast instead of working for it.
I understand the anger and outrage no doubt. However, we wouldn't be having this mess if the progressives and liberals would have gotten their act together. When there's a better job that's non-DoD related and pays well and with benefits, then I'll switch. Until some peace/progressive infrastructure is solid, I see no hope of us getting the hell out of this war prison complex. I'm not directly working for what you accuse me of. I just do my work and after that my work is taken and how and where it's put to use is out of my hands. It's how it works.
Point taken. It is true people have to make a living and feed their families. That is an undeniable truth. I think another poster said it right that you are in an unenviable situation. Perhaps others of us, including myself, need to be a little more understanding of that. I think what we can appreciate is you are aware of this war/prison complex and speaking out against it (without jeopardizing your job) For that, I say thank you. Max, you are not part of the beast, but many of us have deep hatred for the beast, and it does not help to feed it. But, then again, you are taking responsibility for your family, which is totally understandable.
Peace,
Gracchus
You'd be surprised as to how many of us soldiers and defense workers are eager to break from the prison beast. It's tough but like the good old days of the underground for the fugitive slaves, anything's possible. It's all a matter of preparing and then making the move when you know you're ready and have nothing to lose.
I have to disagree with your response. If you are part of the system you must take responsibility for your part. It is too easy to say, "I just do my part, then it is out of my hands." If you know your part has negative ramifications down the road, whether it's you carrying out those ramifications or not then you have responsibility. This is similar to drinking and driving then blaming the person you hit for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. You took actions that allowed the disaster to happen, thus you must claim responsibility.
I used to have a job that furthered the degredation of our society and once my eyes had been opened to my incredibly small part in it I found a different job, that paid less but was easier on my conscience and ultimately enriching rather than damaging. Its an old saying but it still rings true, "If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem." To live the way you are seems like a huge cop out. Things will not get better so why should I try to make them better. With attititudes like that it is no wonder mankind is failing our time on this planet. Not only does it allow sheeple to live in complaceceny but it hinders the actions of people who are trying to improve the lot of everyone. Sounds like cowardice to me, is that what they teach in the military these days? With the increasing use of drones it seems that way.
I take some responsibility but I'm not responsible for misusing the finished product. Blame the workers and soldiers all you want to but that's not gonna change anything. I've rarely come across people who'd easily accept lower pay jobs for political reasons at a time when the costs of living keep going up. There are fewer jobs that are not DoD related and it's a well known fact that almost every business, directly or indirectly, is connected to DoD. Call me a coward as you wish but you're not understanding the article or my side of the story.
Sioux Rose
MAX: You conflate HATE with telling YOU the higher truth. You are so busy defending your self and your family's financial comfort zone that you refuse to make the link between where you work and what it serves. Until you do, you can scream back at anyone who holds up the mirror, but that doesn't mean holding up that mirror is indicative of hatred. Your defensiveness says it all.
You ask the progressives to be sympathetic as people like you work FOR the beast. I suggested you search your heart and soul, use your intelligence to design your own career path. It will likely involve a temporary lessening of fiscal security and privilege, but there are higher prices involved. Of course until YOU come to that understanding in your own consciousness, anyone who suggests it for you will raise your personal threat level. And that is exactly what you are reacting to.
Screaming at the messenger instead of hearing the message is an old tactic that preserves the status quo, and it's always taken by those who would rather hurl verbal missiles than get their own house in order.