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Operation Enduring Disaster
Breaking with Afghan Policy
Afghanistan has been almost continuously at war for 30 years, longer than both World Wars and the American war in Vietnam combined. Each occupation of the country has mimicked its predecessor. A tiny interval between wars saw the imposition of a malignant social order, the Taliban, with the help of the Pakistani military and the late Benazir Bhutto, the prime minister who approved the Taliban takeover in Kabul.
Over the last two years, the U.S./NATO occupation of that country has run into serious military problems. Given a severe global economic crisis and the election of a new American president -- a man separated in style, intellect, and temperament from his predecessor -- the possibility of a serious discussion about an exit strategy from the Afghan disaster hovers on the horizon. The predicament the U.S. and its allies find themselves in is not an inescapable one, but a change in policy, if it is to matter, cannot be of the cosmetic variety.
Washington's hawks will argue that, while bad, the military situation is, in fact, still salvageable. This may be technically accurate, but it would require the carpet-bombing of southern Afghanistan and parts of Pakistan, the destruction of scores of villages and small towns, the killing of untold numbers of Pashtuns and the dispatch to the region of at least 200,000 more troops with all their attendant equipment, air, and logistical support. The political consequences of such a course are so dire that even Dick Cheney, the closest thing to Dr. Strangelove that Washington has yet produced, has been uncharacteristically cautious when it comes to suggesting a military solution to the conflict.
It has, by now, become obvious to the Pentagon that Afghan President Hamid Karzai and his family cannot deliver what is required and yet it is probably far too late to replace him with UN ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad. On his part, fighting for his political (and probably physical) existence, Karzai continues to protect his brother Ahmad Wali Karzai, accused of being involved in the country's staggering drug trade, but has belatedly sacked Hamidullah Qadri, his transport minister, for corruption.
Qadri was taking massive kickbacks from a company flying pilgrims to Mecca. Is nothing sacred?
A Deteriorating Situation
Of course, axing one minister is like whistling in the wind, given the levels of corruption reported in Karzai's government, which, in any case, controls little of the country. The Afghan president parries Washington's thrusts by blaming the U.S. military for killing too many civilians from the air. The bombing of the village of Azizabad in Herat province last August, which led to 91 civilian deaths (of which 60 were children), was only the most extreme of such recent acts. Karzai's men, hurriedly dispatched to distribute sweets and supplies to the survivors, were stoned by angry villagers.
Given the thousands of Afghans killed in recent years, small wonder that support for the neo-Taliban is increasing, even in non-Pashtun areas of the country. Many Afghans hostile to the old Taliban still support the resistance simply to make it clear that they are against the helicopters and missile-armed unmanned aerial drones that destroy homes, and to "Big Daddy" who wipes out villages, and to the flames that devour children.
Last February, Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell presented a bleak survey of the situation on the ground to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence:
"Afghan leaders must deal with the endemic corruption and pervasive poppy cultivation and drug trafficking. Ultimately, defeating the insurgency will depend heavily on the government's ability to improve security, deliver services, and expand development for economic opportunity."Although the international forces and the Afghan National Army continue to score tactical victories over the Taliban, the security situation has deteriorated in some areas in the south and Taliban forces have expanded their operations into previously peaceful areas of the west and around Kabul. The Taliban insurgency has expanded in scope despite operational disruption caused by the ISAF [NATO forces] and Operation Enduring Freedom operations. The death or capture of three top Taliban leaders last year -- their first high level losses -- does not yet appear to have significantly disrupted insurgent operations."
Since then the situation has only deteriorated further, leading to calls for sending in yet more American and NATO troops -- and creating ever deeper divisions inside NATO itself. In recent months, Sir Sherard Cowper-Coles, the British Ambassador to Kabul, wrote a French colleague (in a leaked memo) that the war was lost and more troops were not a solution, a view reiterated recently by Air Marshal Sir Jock Stirrup, the British Defense Chief, who came out in public against a one-for-one transfer of troops withdrawn from Iraq to Kabul. He put it this way:
"I think we would all take some persuading that there would have to be a much larger British contingent there… So we also have to get ourselves back into balance; it's crucial that we reduce the operational tempo for our armed forces, so it cannot be, even if the situation demanded it, just a one for one transfer from Iraq to Afghanistan, we have to reduce that tempo."
The Spanish government is considering an Afghan withdrawal and there is serious dissent within the German and Norwegian foreign policy elites. The Canadian foreign minister has already announced that his country will not extend its Afghan commitment beyond 2011. And even if the debates in the Pentagon have not been aired in public, it's becoming obvious that, in Washington, too, some see the war as unwinnable.
Enter former Iraq commander General David Petraeus, center stage as the new CentCom commander. Ever since the "success" of "the surge" he oversaw in Iraq (a process designed to create temporary stability in that ravaged land by buying off the opposition and, among other things, the selective use of death squads), Petraeus sounds, and behaves, more and more like Lazarus on returning from the dead -- and before his body could be closely inspected.
The situation in Iraq was so dire that even a modest reduction in casualties was seen as a massive leap forward. With increasing outbreaks of violence in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq, however, the talk of success sounds ever hollower. To launch a new "surge" in Afghanistan now by sending more troops there will simply not work, not even as a public relations triumph. Perhaps some of the 100 advisers that General Petraeus has just appointed will point this out to him in forceful terms.
Flight Path to Disaster
Obama would be foolish to imagine that Petraeus can work a miracle cure in Afghanistan. The cancer has spread too far and is affecting U.S. troops as well. If the American media chose to interview active-duty soldiers in Afghanistan (on promise of anonymity), they might get a more accurate picture of what is happening inside the U.S. Army there.
I learned a great deal from Jules, a 20-year old American soldier I met recently in Canada. He became so disenchanted with the war that he decided to go AWOL, proving -- at least to himself -- that the Afghan situation was not an inescapable predicament. Many of his fellow soldiers, he claims, felt similarly, hating a war that dehumanized both them and the Afghans. "We just couldn't bring ourselves to accept that bombing Afghans was no different from bombing the landscape" was the way he summed up the situation.
Morale inside the Army there is low, he told me. The aggression unleashed against Afghan civilians often hides a deep depression. He does not, however, encourage others to follow in his footsteps. As he sees it, each soldier must make that choice for himself, accepting with it the responsibility that going AWOL permanently entails. Jules was convinced, however, that the war could not be won and did not want to see any more of his friends die. That's why he was wearing an "Obama out of Afghanistan" t-shirt.
Before he revealed his identity, I mistook this young soldier -- a Filipino-American born in southern California -- for an Afghan. His features reminded me of the Hazara tribesmen he must have encountered in Kabul. Trained as a mortar gunner and paratrooper from Fort Benning, Georgia, he was later assigned to the 82nd Airborne at Fort Bragg. Here is part of the account he offered me:
"I deployed to Southeastern Afghanistan in January 2007. We controlled everything from Jalalabad down to the northernmost areas of Kandahar province in Regional Command East. My unit had the job of pacifying the insurgency in Paktika, Paktia, and Khost provinces -- areas that had received no aid, but had been devastated during the initial invasion. Operation Anaconda [in 2002] was supposed to have wiped out the Taliban. That was the boast of the military leaders, but ridiculed by everyone else with a brain."
He spoke also of how impossible he found it to treat the Afghans as subhumans:
"I swear I could not for a second view these people as anything but human. The best way to fashion a young hard dick like myself -- dick being an acronym for 'dedicated infantry combat killer' -- is simple and the effect of racist indoctrination. Take an empty shell off the streets of L.A. or Brooklyn, or maybe from some Podunk town in Tennessee… and these days America isn't in short supply… I was one of those no-child-left-behind products…"Anyway, you take this empty vessel and you scare the living shit out of him, break him down to nothing, cultivate a brotherhood and camaraderie with those he suffers with, and fill his head with racist nonsense like all Arabs, Iraqis, Afghans are Hajj. Hajj hates you. Hajj wants to hurt your family. Hajj children are the worst because they beg all the time. Just some of the most hurtful and ridiculous propaganda, but you'd be amazed at how effective it's been in fostering my generation of soldiers."
As this young man spoke to me, I felt he should be testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. The effect of the war on those carrying out the orders is leaving scars just as deep as the imprints of previous imperial wars. Change we can believe in must include the end of this, which means, among other things, a withdrawal from Afghanistan.
In my latest book, The Duel: Pakistan on the Flight Path of American Power, I have written of the necessity of involving Afghanistan's neighbors in a political solution that ends the war, preserves the peace, and reconstructs the country. Iran, Russia, India, and China, as well as Pakistan, need to be engaged in the search for a political solution that would sustain a genuine national government for a decade after the withdrawal of the Americans, NATO, and their quisling regime. However, such a solution is not possible within the context of the plans proposed by both present Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and President-elect Barack Obama, which focus on a new surge of American troops in Afghanistan.
The main task at hand should be to create a social infrastructure and thus preserve the peace, something that the West and its horde of attendant non-governmental organizations have failed to do. School buildings constructed, often for outrageous sums, by foreign companies that lack furniture, teachers, and kids are part of the surreal presence of the West, which cannot last.
Whether you are a policymaker in the next administration or an AWOL veteran of the Afghan War in Canada, Operation Enduring Freedom of 2001 has visibly become Operation Enduring Disaster. Less clear is whether an Obama administration can truly break from past policy or will just create a military-plus add-on to it. Only a total break from the catastrophe that George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld created in Afghanistan will offer pathways to a viable future.
For this to happen, both external and domestic pressures will probably be needed. China is known to be completely opposed to a NATO presence on, or near, its borders, but while Beijing has proved willing to exert economic pressure to force policy changes in Washington -- as it did when the Bank of China "cut its exposure to agency debt last summer," leaving U.S. Treasury Secretary Paulson with little option but to functionally nationalize the mortgage giants -- it has yet to use its diplomatic muscle in the region.
But don't think that will last forever. Why wait until then? Another external pressure will certainly prove to be the already evident destabilizing effects of the Afghan war on neighboring Pakistan, a country in a precarious economic state, with a military facing growing internal tensions.
Domestic pressure in the U.S. to pull out of Afghanistan remains weak, but could grow rapidly as the extent of the debacle becomes clearer and NATO allies refuse to supply the shock-troops for the future surge.
In the meantime, they're predicting a famine in Afghanistan this winter.
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40 Comments so far
Show All"The main task at hand should be to create a social infrastructure and thus preserve the peace, something that the West and its horde of attendant non-governmental organizations have failed to do."
Totally agree. How can that be done? Who can do it?
Joe
The U.S. and its western allies have not failed. They have succeeded wonderfully so far, since their method is destabilization and destruction of other countries, as in Iraq, while they do their manipulations and looting in the midst of the chaos they have created.
OK - they have succeeded in their agenda: destabilizing, destroying and looting. But not in bringing anything positive to Afghanistan or its people.
Joe
US contractors make a killing (literally and figuratively) in Iraq and Afghanistan, but the US gov't, wanting to 'stabilize' the country for US companies has failed. The Afghanistan occupation is all about securing the territory for pipelines. Period. This 'war on terror' doesn't even make it up to a bad joke.
The territory is not secured and is not about to be. And we've planted a puppet regime that is as corrupt as possible, complicating even more the situation in that country. Karzai is known locally as the mayor of Kabul, or the assistant to the US ambassador. Former oil executive for a US company, he's a pathetic joke.
So Haliburton, etc., haul in the $$$ but the whole world gets to see the US military being completely incompetent, deeply brutalized, and coming apart at the seams before our very eyes. It's way beyond tragic at every level.
Where Bush failed in Afghanistan, Obama can succeed.
Update update - Obama is a human. He can use his human intelligence to put together a statesmanlike program such as Ali describes, rather than claiming he can craft a winning military approach.
Joe
If the American media chose to interview active-duty soldiers in Afghanistan (on promise of anonymity), they might get a more accurate picture of what is happening inside the U.S. Army there.
The MSM will never, never do this. Not ever! Their boy, McCain, lost. If he'd won, we'd all be hearing about how the new president will soon tear the terrorists a new one. The corporate honchos of the MSM will not throw a light on the situation in Afghanistan because it is not as well known among the American people as the parallel disaster in Iraq and they want it to stay that way. The MSM hates, loathes and detests the very idea of admitting defeat. As George C. Scott tells his troops in "Patton": "Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser."
Tariq Ali missed an absolutely essential facet of the Afghani situation: the multi-ethnic make up of the place. Not anywhere were the words Pashtun, Hazara, Uzbek, or Tajik. Nor was the word Puktanwali (the Pastun honor code). Until these factors come into the conversation, then the ensuing conversation is a waste of time.
www.wunderman-comics.com
I guarantee you that Tariq Ali knows all about the multi-ethnic, multi-lingual character of Afghanistan. He probably did not feel it was essential to the points in this article. In fact, the complexity of the country is all the more reason our troops would feel isolated and confused... We can do nothing but harm there.
Joe
Actually, the multi-ethnic multi-lingual character is vital to any discussion of Afghanistan whatever the forum. The Taliban are essentially a Pashtun organization, and the majority of their depredations is taking place in Pashtun areas of Afghanistan. Their strategy is easy to discern, create chaos in Pashtun areas that chases out foreign forces, fill the power vacuum, then take over the rest of country & reimpose their sordid regime. If they are to be defeated, it must be by force of Afghan arms, as the brief window of opportunity for the West to defeat them has come and is long gone. The best that can be done is to make it to the Pashtun's advantage to kick out the Taliban themselves.
www.wunderman-comics.com
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB227/index.htm
The Taliban are completely funded, bankrolled, and controlled by the Pakistani ISI. Some funding also comes from rich Saudis as the Taliban's version of Islam is not the local Afghan version of Islam but is actually a form of Salafi/Wahabbi teaching. This sect has its origins in Ibn Wahaabs ideas and he was from Saudi Arabia not South Asia.
Pakistan's ISI supports the Taliban and it also supports militants in Kashmir wrecking havoc in the Indian controlled parts of Kashmir. Pakistan also has lose nukes...google AQ Khan Network on that one.
Majority of the Taliban are Pakistani Pashtuns, other Pakistani ethnic groups, and even Arabs with a small minority of the Taliban actually being Afghan Pashtuns.
Other Afghan minority groups like the Tajiks, Hazaras, Kuchi and Uzbeks hate the Taliban as do many Pashtuns. Majority of Afghans do not want to return to life under the Taliban as it was oppressive not only to women but to men and children also. Afghans do not want to live under these terrorists. Afghan culture which all Afghans took pride in such as the Bamiyan Buddhas were destroyed, Afghan music and all music was forbidden under the Taliban, the Taliban also forbid the Afghan tradition of Kite Flying. There's a long list.
In addition to the Taliban the War Lords are also a horrible group with numerous human rights violations.
Afghans deserve a life of freedom and security and a country free from Pakistani influence, terrorism, and war lordism.
The mujahideen (including Taliban and al qaeda) used to be unpopular minor fringe groups until they were armed and funded by us under Carter and Reagan to fight the cold war. During that period they were given fulsome praise as "Freedom Fighters" and were part of destroying progressive trends in Afghanistan.
Between that sorry history and our recent performance, I think we have completely lost any standing to be pundits, analysts, policy makers or participants in Afghanistan. Afghanis are probably better off without us. Maybe the UN can do something - or just leave them alone. They have been doing without us for milennia.
I shall show my age by suggesting this song: "I got along without you before I met you, I'm gonna get along without you now."
Joe
Afghanis are the currency not the people. The people of Afghanistan are the Afghans.
The Taliban were not a creation of Carter or Reagan. They are a creation of Pakistan. Read the link I posted. The Taliban also did not appear on the scene until the mid-1990's. Most were too young to have fought against the Soviets. The Taliban were not the Afghan Mujahidden. Many Afghan Mujahidden layed down their arms after the withdrawal of the Soviets and rejoined Afghan society peacefully. Unfortunatly, many other Afghan Mujahidden took a different path and became known as the Afghan War Lords such as Durrani, Hekmatyar, et all and they had a very fierce civil war in the early 1990's in Kabul which killed thousands. Pakistan saw that power vaccuum left by the war lords in the wake of the civil war and installed the Taliban in Afghanistan by force. Again read the link.
By the way one of the most famous of the Afghan Mujahidden, Ahmed Shah Masoud, the Northern Alliance leader, fought the Taliban and he was murdered by them and Al Qaeda two days before September 11th happened. Apparently he stood in the way of total control of that country by the Taliban as the northern part of Afghanistan was free and under Northern Alliance rule, not Taliban rule. The Northern Alliance had widespread support among the Afghan ethnic minorities for their fight against the Taliban as the Taliban had persecuted the Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras and others not to mention the women and children of all ethnic groups. The US worked with the Northern Alliance in the fall of 2001 to oust the Taliban in coalition with these ethnic minorities.
As far as Al Qaeda this is an Arab group not Afghan. The name is in Arabic not Dari or Pashtu. Afghans are not Arabs. Some of the Arabs that were armed by the CIA in the fight against the Soviets did become Al Qaeda members. This was the tragic, horrible, and frightening blowback from that failed policy.
Thanks for the details and the correction on naming. Granted the ethnic groups in Afghanistan are complex - but what does that mean for outsiders who want to come in and control the place by force of arms? Can there be a good result? How do any of the details you spell out invalidate Tariq Ali's advice? :
"I have written of the necessity of involving Afghanistan's neighbors in a political solution that ends the war, preserves the peace, and reconstructs the country. Iran, Russia, India, and China, as well as Pakistan, need to be engaged in the search for a political solution that would sustain a genuine national government for a decade after the withdrawal of the Americans, NATO, and their quisling regime"
Joe
They already have been involved. Iran actually helped us to defeat the Taliban as the Taliban were persecuting the Shia Hazara, the Shia from Herat, and the Tajik Shia minority groups. Iran has labeled the Taliban as terrorists and a threat. Iran is also not happy about the poppy trafficking into Iran. India has also helped Afghanistan and a great deal and is a true friend of the Afghan people. Afghans and Indians like each other and Bollywood films are extremely popular in Afghanistan. There are many many other cultural links between these two nations and India and Afghanistan work together to contain the threat of militants from Pakistan.
We already know that Pakistan's role was funding the Taliban and providing them sanctuary so Pakistan needs to be held accountable for this. I would suggest no more aid until they stop their support they need to be called on it by the US and other powers. This hasn't formally happened yet. Karzai complains about this fact and no one listens. Pakistan constantly spins itself out of the blame and responsibility to confuse the issue for many people.
Russia does not want to see an Afghanistan where terrorism is a problem. Russia is already worried about the rise of fundamentalism in Uzbekistan, Chechneya and elsewhere along its borders. I doubt China does either.
However its important to note that China and Pakistan do have an alliance so who knows if there are other things at play here.
DCBeltway said:
"Ahmed Shah Masoud, the Northern Alliance leader, fought the Taliban and he was murdered by them and Al Qaeda"
It really saddened me when I heard Masoud was killed. The people who killed him were at war with Masoud so I would not use the word "murdered" unless you want to say "murdered" for everyone who was killed in a war.
Some questions for DCBeltway:
Of all those "Pakistani" kids who came to Afghanistan as Taliban - how many of them were refugees or the children of refugees from earlier fighting in Afghanistan?
How much do the groups living on the border with Afghanistan actually acknowledge the border's legitimacy?
What concrete evidence is there that currently Pakistans's ISI is still funding the resistance in Afghanistan?
To what extent is the old "Taliban" still the leading force of the resistance rather than just one of an alliance?
Would you expect the Karzai, NATO and the US to want us to believe that the resistance is all just because of help from foreign powers like from Pakistan rather than it being a united front against a foreign invasion and occupation?
According to all the "recently declassified" information in your link, Pakistan was funding Taliban starting at least in the mid 1990s. Our friends in Pakistan?? The ruthless corrupt ones who overthrow each other? The same ones we utilized to channel funds to religious and tribal forces in Afghanistan to fight the Russians (and internal democracy).
We used Pakistan to funnel money since the 1980's, with of course some skimming allowed. How can we blame Pakistan for (allegedly) continuing in a role that we created for them in the 80's? Do our friends in Saudi Arabia play any role in this?
In what way does any of this imply that we should have a military role in Afghanistan? We are a disaster for humanity, creating chaos, poverty and blowback wherever we go. Only war profiteers, mercenaries, corrupt politicians benefit financially. Of course the world they are leaving for their own children will be sad.
Joe
"Pashtuns" 3rd paragraph, maybe 2nd.
I have no idea what 2009 will bring in Afghanistan until our new president is inaugurated and, hopefully, will tell us honestly what he intends to do with that other quagmire and how he proposes to go about it.
Meanwhile it is useful to dismiss a widespread myth, namely that the US armed forces will be soon "defeated" because the Soviet army was. The Soviets were sent packing by ground-to-air missiles which we gave to the Mujaheddin to shoot down the Soviet helicopters. The Taliban does not have such missiles. This comment must not be interpreted that I support Obama's stated policy for Afghanistan. I oppose his policy.
There are speculations that Pakistan's government quietly agrees with our across-the-border bombings. There is absolutely no doubt that this is correct. Modern fighter planes can easily shoot down the drones. All Pakistan's air force needs to do is continuously patrol the border region and shoot the drones down. Since that is not done, the collusion is proven.
For more information check out today's alternate radio broadcast of a recent Tariq Ali speech in Seattle. It actually seemed t expand on some of the details presented here:
http://www.alternativeradio.org/
But I could be wrong !
I apologize - At the time I posted I was unaware there would be a charge to download and listen !!!!!
But I could be wrong !
Pay the people for their poppies.
Make morphine for woman dying of AIDS in Africa.
Take the profits and build hospitals, irrigation canals and Madrassas.
Take the profits, buy food and distribute it to the hungry, buy blankets for the cold;
Gee, what would we know? No more al-Queda.
But we could still bomb wedding parties for Sport.
The Senlis Council has been propsing the poppy for medicine policy for years read here:
http://www.senliscouncil.net/modules/P4M
Wedding parties in Afghanistan and elsewhere in the region traditional celebrate by firing guns into the air. You'd think by now someone would inform the military that this is a cultural tradition.
Last year I had a severe and painful injury - when I was recovering in the hospital they gave me a self-monitored morphine drip for the worst days. It was heaven and I had no side-effects. I suppose there are many good legal uses for morphine, as you mention. It could be very cheap.
Still I would prefer to see the Afghans and others growing a variety of foods to replace some of those poppies and to cut down on drug trade, which always produces dangerous people no matter where it occurs.
Joe
jclientelle: morphine is addictive. Marijuana is good for pain,too and not addictive. Alas, marijuana is illegal (where it's OK for medical purposes in some states, the feds can override and arrest/prosecute medical marijuana patients). Morphine is highly controlled as a prescription drug. Glad you are no longer in severe pain.
Morphine can be addictive. But that doesn't really matter for acute short term pain or for terminal illness.
I didn't say anything against marijuana. I think it should be decriminalized or legalized, as I have observed it seems to have fewer health dangers than alcohol or cigarettes. I doubt it would have the same strength as morphine for pain relief, but I could be wrong.
Don't get me wrong - I would like to see big commercial drug growing operations everywhere converted to food agriculture - but usually such operations are false pretenses to send in troops and / or demand part of the profits.
Joe
First of all, Tariq Ali is one of the top 20 minds analyzing world politics. I heard him a year or so in person. Great talk. His biggest point was gov't/media DISNFORMATION! Tho we already know it, it must be highlighted & continuously remembered.
As the ever luscent Mordechai Shiblikov posts, the MSm is so empire-oriented; like the incredible jingoism post 9/11; America's New War; let's kick Afghani ass! We used to ask Johnson, how many kids have you killed today. Re Afghanistan, we ask Bush, how many wedding parties!
Please Barack, after the inauguration (which i view as an excorcism) please drop the the macho stuff you may feel temorarily wise, & adopt a more MLK/kucinich approach.
Good input in these numerous posts.
The Tariq Ali news commentary and these posts are an education.
Thanks for this article, well said.
End the WOD, end favoritism for Israel, bring troops home.
Buy the poppy crop, feed the hungry,take care of the sick? that will never happen, how do you think the CIA finances its black ops. Remember Oliver North and the cocaine connection?
I don't support the Iraq war. It was a "dumb" war and a strategic error. But admit it, Afghanistan and Pakistan are the real fronts in the War on Terror. Obama said it, Kerry said it, and it's pretty obvious if you have studied the subject.
We need to win the war in Afghanistan. Iraq has been a distraction that has left us more vulnerable. The recommendations of the 911 commission were never fully enacted, so the threat of another attack happening is still something we must take seriously. Bush botched the job in Afghanistan by relying on Afghan militias to apprehend Bin Laden, who then let him escape at Tora Bora.
That people have grown disillusioned with the war isn't very surprising, but it's only due to Bush's incompetence as Commander-in-Chief, not the legitimacy of our mission. So let's just take a deep breath and remember, there won't be any more bombing of wedding parties when Obama takes over. The war will be fought with intelligence and professionalism, the way it should have been fought all along, with more troops, diplomacy, and a clear strategy for victory.
What would "win" look like?
Obviously somebody is rarin-to-go on escalating our armed activity in Afghanistan and won't drop it regardless of the evidence that it will be another death and money pit. I recognize the usual confusion / disinformation campaign starting.
Who wants this and why? Possibly there are some politicians and arms manufacturers who would be poorer without bloody wars involving other people's children and some brown people.
Here we go again.
The Other Joe
Nanoo
I just wish they would leave these people alone. There is No war on terror. Who wants to follow Bush and his directives? Kerry went along, and Obama has stated his direction and that is one of my main reasons why neither of them got my vote.
30 years of war and now a famine, send food not bombs.
Nanoo: Following Ali's suggestions, and send money. Folks can buy their own food regionally . It's easier than shipping it, but your point is good.
Tariq Ali writes early in his piece "Afghan President Hamid Karzai and his family cannot deliver what is required and yet it is probably far too late to replace him with UN ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad."
What in the hell is he talking about?
Khalilzad is the current American ambassador to the UN, former ambassador to Iraq during early stages of the US military occupation there, and US ambassador to Pakistan (I think) before going to Iraq, posted to Islamabad back at the time the Bush regime rejected the Taliban's offer to oust Osama bin Laden and send him into exile (opting instead for regime change in Afghanistan through overt and covert military means). Please correct me if I'm wrong about this biographical profile.
Who ever contemplated that Mr. Khalilzad would become some sort of American neo-colonial viceroy over Afghanistan, as a fall back Plan B to replace Hamid Karzai if his government formally fell? I've never heard or read this scenario before. It strikes me as wholly implausible.
Bill from Saginaw
Bill,
You ask: "Who ever contemplated that Mr. Khalilzad would become some sort of American neo-colonial viceroy over Afghanistan(?)"
The answer is simple. This has been discussed with Khalilzad by George Bush and Dick Cheney with Condolezza Rice attending to the discussions in her then role as National Security Advisor. The year was 2003.
Here is what the History Commons has on this period of time: http://preview.tinyurl.com/5cg4mg
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November 2003: Appointment of Powerful ‘Neocon’ Ambassador Reflects New US Emphasis on Afghanistan
Khalilzad agrees to take the job if the US expands resources in Afghanistan, and as he takes over the US gives $2 billion in aid to the country, double the amount of the year before. [New York Times, 8/12/2007] Khalilzad becomes so powerful that in 2005 the BBC will note that he is sometimes dubbed “the viceroy, or the real president of Afghanistan.” He is accused of “frequently overshadowing President Hamid Karzai.… No major decisions by the Afghan government [are] made without his involvement.” [BBC, 4/6/2005] Similarly, a London Times article on him will be titled: “US Envoy Accused of Being the Power Pulling Karzai’s Strings.” [London Times, 10/5/2004] A New York Times article on him will be titled: “In Afghanistan, US Envoy Sits in Seat of Power.” [New York Times, 4/17/2004]
[END QUOTE]
Tariq Ali has been a frequent guest on DemocracyNow (www.democracynow.org) and recently, also. (Transcripts online.) I have been listening to him for years. I can't find anything to argue with in his article. For a different view of Tariq Ali, a somewhat different "side" of him, find his article that was in the Guardian.co.uk a few months ago, on his activism in the 1968 uprising by students and activists in Europe. It's quite a "fun read" if you're so inclined. Ali was an activist as a young man against the Vietnam war. A really remarkable man and writer.
Paul Siemerin
there is no war on terror. you cannot fight a way of fighting. and it's not war when one side has all the weapons. what it is is a brutal unprovoked unjustifiable war crime atrocity- the murder of innocent civilians in Afghanistan. So it's gotta stop. Obama needs to get somebody to talk sense to him. I know he believes- or did during the campaign- that Afghanistan needs more bombs, so he has to be told that those poor people have not known peace for 30 years and that is what they need. send them food not bombs obama
Dafoe
There can be no peace without justice, peace thru victory only ensures the conflict will break out again.
We are invaders no matter how you spell it , nobody invited us in. Let the Afghani's work out their own "salvation" , they have some obstacles to overcome but they have to overcome them and not with someone els4s barrel. The Taliban sound like they got their modus operendi from the GOP's foreign policy.
We should remove ourselves from the nation, we won't bring democracy to a people for whom democracy is a foreign concept.