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Gods and Monsters: Fighting American Wars From On High
The Greeks had it right. When you live on Mount Olympus, your view of humanity is qualitatively different. The Greek gods, after all, lied to, stole from, lusted for, and punished humanity without mercy, while taking the planet for a spin in a manner that we mortals would consider amoral, if not immoral. And it didn't bother them a bit. They felt -- so Greek mythology tells us -- remarkably free to intervene from the heights in the affairs of whichever mortals caught their attention and, in the process, to do whatever took their fancy without thinking much about the nature of human lives. If they sometimes felt sympathy for the mortals whose lives they repeatedly threw into havoc, they were incapable of real empathy. Such is the nature of the world when your view is the Olympian one and what you see from the heights are so many barely distinguishable mammals scurrying below. The details of their petty lives naturally blur and seem less than important.
In the last week, we've seen -- literally viewed -- a modern example of what it means in our day to act from the heights, and we've read about another striking example of the same. The website WikiLeaks released a decrypted July 2007 video of two U.S. Apache helicopters attacking Iraqis on a street in Baghdad. At least 12 Iraqis, including two employees of the news agency Reuters, a photographer and his driver, were killed in the incident, and two children in the vehicle of a good Samaritan who stopped to pick up casualties and died in the process, were also wounded.
Without a doubt, that video is a remarkable 17-minute demo of how to efficiently slaughter tiny beings milling about below. There is no way American helicopter crews could know just who was walking down there -- Sunni or Shiite, insurgent or shopper, Baghdadis with intent to harm Americans or Baghdadis paying little attention to two of the helicopters then so regularly buzzing the city. Were they killers, guards, bank clerks, unemployed idlers, Baathist Party members, religious fanatics, café owners? Who could tell from such a height? But the details mattered little.
The Reuters cameraman crouches behind a building looking, camera first, around a corner, and you hear an American in an Apache yell, "He's got an RPG!" -- mistaking his camera with its long-range lens for a rocket-propelled grenade launcher. The pilot, of course, doesn't know that it's a Reuters photographer down there. Only we do. (And when his death did become known, the military carefully buried the video.)
Along with that video comes a soundtrack in which you hear the Americans check out the rules of engagement (ROE), request permission to fire, and banter about the results. ("Hahaha. I hit 'em"; "Oh yeah, look at those dead bastards..."; and of the two wounded children, "Well, it's their fault bringing their kids into a battle.") Such callous chit-chat is explained away in media articles here by the need for "psychological distance" of those whose job it is to kill, but in truth that's undoubtedly the way you talk when you, and only you, have god-like access to the skies and can hover over the rest of humanity, making preparations to wipe out lesser beings.
Similarly, in pre-dawn darkness on February 12th in Paktia Province, eastern Afghanistan, a U.S. Special Operations team dropped from the skies into a village near Gardez. There, in a world that couldn't be more distant from their lives, possibly using an informant's bad tip, American snipers on rooftops killed an Afghan police officer ("head of intelligence in one of Paktia's most volatile districts"), his brother, and three women -- a pregnant mother of 10, a pregnant mother of six, and a teenager. They then evidently dug the bullets out of the women's bodies, bound and gagged their bodies, and filed a report claiming that the dead men were Taliban militants who had murdered the women -- "honor killings" -- before they arrived. (This was how the American press, generally reliant on military handouts, initially reported the story.)
Recently, in the face of some good on-the-spot journalism by an unembedded British reporter, this cover-up story ingloriously disintegrated, while U.S. military spokespeople retreated step by step in a series of partial admissions of error, leading to an in-person apology, including the sacrifice of a sheep and $30,000 in compensation payments.
Ceremonial Evisceration
Both incidents elicited shock and anger from critics of American war policies. And both incidents are shocking. Probably the most shocking aspect of them, however, is just how humdrum they actually are, even if the public release of video of such events isn't. Start with one detail in those Afghan murders, reported in most accounts but little emphasized: what the Americans descended on was a traditional family ceremony. More than 25 guests had gathered for the naming of a newborn child.
In fact, over these last nine-plus years, Afghan (and Iraqi) ceremonies of all sorts have regularly been blasted away. Keeping a partial tally of wedding parties eradicated by American air power at TomDispatch.com, I had counted five such "incidents" between December 2001 and July 2008. (A sixth in July 2002 in which possibly 40 Afghan wedding celebrants died and many more were wounded has since come to my attention, as has a seventh in August 2008.) Nor have other kinds of rites where significant numbers of Afghans gather been immune from attack, including funerals, and now, naming ceremonies. And keep in mind that these are only the reported incidents in a rural land where much undoubtedly goes unreported.
Similarly, General Stanley McChrystal, the commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, recently expressed surprise at a tally since last summer of at least 30 Afghans killed and 80 wounded at checkpoints when U.S. soldiers opened fire on cars. He said: "We have shot an amazing number of people, but to my knowledge, none has ever proven to be a threat." Or consider 36-year-old Mohammed Yonus, a popular imam of a mosque on the outskirts of Kabul, who was killed in his car this January by fire from a passing NATO convoy, which considered his vehicle "threatening." His seven-year-old son was in the back seat.
Or while on the subject of Reuters employees, recall reporter Mazen Tomeizi, a Palestinian producer for the al-Arabiya satellite network of Dubai, who was killed on Haifa Street in central Baghdad in September 2004 by a U.S. helicopter attack. He was on camera at the time and his blood spattered the lens. Seif Fouad, a Reuters cameraman, was wounded in the same incident, while a number of bystanders, including a girl, were killed. Or remember the 17 Iraqi civilians infamously murdered when Blackwater employees in a convoy began firing in Nissour Square in Baghdad on September 16, 2007. Or the missiles regularly shot from U.S. helicopters and unmanned aerial drones into the heavily populated Shiite slum of Sadr City back in 2007-08. Or the Iraqis regularly killed at checkpoints in the years since the invasion of 2003. Or, for that matter, the first moments of that invasion on March 20, 2003, when, according to Human Rights Watch, "dozens" of ordinary Iraqi civilians were killed by the 50 aerial "decapitation strikes" the Bush administration launched against Saddam Hussein and the rest of the Iraqi leadership, missing every one of them.
This is the indiscriminate nature of killing, no matter how "precise" and "surgical" the weaponry, when war is made by those who command the heavens and descend, as if from Mars, into alien worlds, convinced that they have the power to sort out the good from the bad, even if they can't tell villagers from insurgents. Under these circumstances, death comes in a multitude of disguises -- from a great distance via cruise missiles or Predator drones and close in at checkpoints where up-armored American troops, fingers on triggers, have no way of telling a suicide car bomber from a confused or panicked local with a couple of kids in the backseat. It comes repetitively when U.S. Special Operations forces helicopter into villages after dark looking for terror suspects based on tips from unreliable informants who may be settling local scores of which the Americans are dismally ignorant. It comes repeatedly to Afghan police or Army troops mistaken for the enemy.
It came not just to a police officer and his brother and family in Paktia Province, but to a "wealthy businessman with construction and security contracts with the nearby American base at Shindand airport" who, along with up to 76 members of his extended family, was slaughtered in such a raid on the village of Azizabad in Herat Province in August 2008. It came to the family of Awal Khan, an Afghan army artillery commander (away in another province) whose "schoolteacher wife, a 17-year-old daughter named Nadia, a 15-year-old son, Aimal, and his brother, employed by a government department" were killed in April 2009 in a U.S.-led raid in Khost Province in Eastern Afghanistan. (Another daughter was wounded and the pregnant wife of Khan's cousin was shot five times in the abdomen.) It came to 12 Afghans by a roadside near the city of Jalalabad in April 2007 when Marine Special Operations forces, attacked by a suicide bomber, let loose along a ten-mile stretch of road. Victims included a four-year-old girl, a one-year-old boy, and three elderly villagers. According to a report by Carlotta Gall of the New York Times, a "16-year-old newly married girl was cut down while she was carrying a bundle of grass to her family's farmhouse... A 75-year-old man walking to his shop was hit by so many bullets that his son did not recognize the body when he came to the scene."
It came in November 2009 to two relatives of Majidullah Qarar, the spokesman for the Minister of Agriculture, who were shot down in cold blood in Ghazni City in another Special Operations night raid. It came in Uruzgan Province in February 2010 when U.S. Special Forces troops in helicopters struck a convoy of mini-buses, killing up to 27 civilians, including women and children.
And it came this April 5th in an airstrike in Helmand province in southern Afghanistan in which a residence was hit and four civilians -- two women, an elderly man, and a child -- were killed along with four men, immediately identified in a NATO press release as "suspected insurgents." ("Insurgents were using the compound as a firing position when combined forces, unaware of the possible presence of civilians, directed air assets against it.") The usual joint investigation with Afghans has been launched and if those four men later morph into "civilians," the usual apologies will ensue. (Of course, "suspected insurgents," too, can have wives, children, and elderly parents or relatives, or simply take over compounds with such inhabitants.) And it came this Monday morning on the outskirts of Kandahar City, when U.S. troops opened fire on a bus, killing five civilians (including a woman), wounding more, and sparking angry protests.
Planetary Predators
Whether in the skies or patrolling on the ground, Americans know next to nothing of the worlds they are passing above or through. This is, of course, even more true of the "pilots" who fly our latest wonder weapons, the Predators, Reapers, and other unmanned drones over American battle zones, while sitting at consoles somewhere in the United States. They are clearly engaged in the most literal of video-game wars, while living the most prosaic of god-like lives. A sign at Creech Air Force Base in Nevada warns such a drone pilot to "drive carefully" on leaving the base after a work shift "in" Afghanistan or Iraq. This, it says, is "the most dangerous part of your day."
One instructor of drone pilots has described this form of warfare vividly: "Flying a Predator is like a chess game... Because you have a God's-eye perspective, you need to think a few moves ahead." However much you may "think ahead," though, the tiny, barely distinguishable creatures you're deciding whether to eradicate certainly don't inhabit the same universe as you, with your looming needs, troubles, and concerns.
Here's the fact of the matter: in the cities, towns, and villages of the distant lands where Americans tend to make war, civilians die regularly and repeatedly at our hands. Each death may contain its own uniquely nightmarish details, but the overall story remains remarkably repetitious. Such "incidents" are completely predictable. Even General McChrystal, determined to "protect the population" in Afghanistan as part of his counterinsurgency war, has proven remarkably incapable of changing the nature of our style of warfare. Curtail air strikes, rein in Special Operations night attacks -- none of it will, in the long run, matter. Put in a nutshell: If you arrive from the heavens, they will die.
Having watched the video of the death of the 22-year-old Reuters photographer Namir Noor-Eldeen in that July 2007 video, his father said: "At last the truth has been revealed, and I'm satisfied God revealed the truth... If such an incident took place in America, even if an animal were killed like this, what would they do?"
Putting aside the controversy during the 2008 presidential campaign over the hunting of wolves from helicopters in Alaska, Noor-Eldeen may not have gone far enough. For that helicopter crew, his son was indeed the wartime equivalent of a hunted animal. An article on the front page of the New York Times recently captured this perspective, however inadvertently, when, speaking of the CIA's aerial war over Pakistan's tribal borderlands, it described the Agency's unmanned drones as "observing and tracking targets, then unleashing missiles on their quarry."
"Quarry" has quite a straightforward definition: "a hunted animal; prey." Indeed, the al-Qaeda leaders, Taliban militants, and local civilians in the region are all "prey" which, of course, makes us the predators. That the majority of drones cruising those skies 24/7 and repeatedly launching their Hellfire missiles are named "Predators" should, then, come as no surprise.
Americans are unused to being the prey in war and so essentially incapable of imagining what that actually means, day in, day out, year after year. We prefer to think of their deaths as so many accidents or mistakes -- "collateral damage" -- when they are the norm, not the exception, not what's collateral in such wars. We prefer to imagine ourselves bringing the best (of values and intentions) to a backward, ignorant world and so invariably make ourselves sound far kindlier than we are. Like the gods of Olympus, we have a tendency to flatter ourselves, even as we continually remake the "rules of engagement," those ROEs, to suit our changing tastes and needs, while creating a language of war that suits our tender sensibilities about ourselves.
In this way, for instance, assassination-by-drone has become an ever more central part of the Obama administration's foreign and war policy, and yet the word "assassination" -- with all its negative implications, legal and otherwise -- has been displaced by the far more anodyne, more bureaucratic "targeted killing." In a sense, in fact, what "enhanced interrogation techniques" (aka torture) were to the Bush administration, "targeted killing" is to the Obama administration.
For the gods, anything is possible. In the language of Olympian war, for instance, even sitting at a console thousands of miles from the not-quite-humans you are preparing to obliterate can become an act worthy of Homeric praise. As Greg Jaffe of the Washington Post reported, Colonel Eric Mathewson, the Air Force officer with the most experience with unmanned aircraft, has a new notion of "valor," a word "which is a part of almost every combat award citation." "Valor to me is not risking your life," he says. "Valor is doing what is right. Valor is about your motivations and the ends that you seek. It is doing what is right for the right reasons." What the gods do is, by definition, glorious.
Descending From On High
And it's not only the American way of war, but the American way of statecraft that arrives as if from the heavens, ready to impose its own definitions of the good and necessary on the world. American officials, civilian and military, constantly fly into the embattled (and let's be blunt: Muslim) regions of the planet to make demands, order, chide, plead, wheedle, cajole, intimidate, threaten, twist arms, and bluster to get our "allies" to do what we most want.
Our special plenipotentiaries like Richard Holbrooke do this regularly; our secretary of state follows. Our Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Centcom commander, and Secretary of Defense descend from the clouds on Islamabad, Kabul, or Baghdad frequently. Our Vice President careens Iraq-wards to help mediate disputes, and even our President, the "heaviest political artillery" (as one analyst called him), recently dropped in for a six-hour visit to "Afghanistan" (actually the hanger of a large American air base and the presidential palace in Kabul). While there -- as Americans papers reported quite proudly -- he chided and "pressed" Afghan President Hamid Karzai, offered "pointed criticism" on corruption, and delivered "a tough message." He then returned to the U.S., only to find, to the surprise and frustration of his top officials, that Karzai -- almost immediately accused of being unstable, possibly on drugs, and prone to child-like tantrums -- responded by lashing out at his American minders.
We are, of course, the rational ones, the grown-ups, the good governance team, the incorruptible crew who bring enlightenment and democracy to the world, even if, as practical gods, in support of our Afghan war we're perfectly willing to shore up a corrupt autocrat elsewhere who is willing to lend us an air base (for $60 million a year in rent) to haul in troops and supplies -- until he falls.
All of this is par for the course for the Olympians from North America. It all seems normal, even benign, except in the rare moments when videos of slaughter begin to circulate. Looked at from the ground up, however, we undoubtedly seem as petulant as the gods or demiurges of some malign religion, or as the aliens and predators of some horrific sci-fi film -- heartless and cold, unfeeling and murderous. As Safa Chmagh, the brother of one of the Reuters employees who died in the 2007 Apache attack, reportedly said: "The pilot is not human, he's a monster. What did my brother do? What did his children do? Does the pilot accept his kids to be orphans?"
As with tales humans tell of the gods, there's a moral here: If you want it to be otherwise, don't descend on strange lands armed to the teeth, prepared to occupy, and ready to kill.
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Show AllA real analogy of the "Gods and mortals" is "the ruling class and the workers". The "gods" really are the monsters, causing their wars with no repercussions or responsibility. Karma is a mofo, gods.
Sioux Rose
I, for one, appreciate Mr. Engelhardt's references to mythology!
And there IS something in the way of "hive mind" operating... as a week ago VERITAS used a reference to Zeus and Hera in this forum; while I am currently revising a script originally penned in 1997 which is based on Olympus and how the gods "see" us. It's a funny script... begins when all the asteroids crash into the planet Jupiter (a/k/a Zeus) back in l994.
Plus the reference to the god Mars is always appreciated by the celestial seeress in the CD forum. This reference might cut through earthbound walls and enable some to see from a wider perspective.
Thank you, Tom...
"In fact, over these last nine-plus years, Afghan (and Iraqi) ceremonies of all sorts have regularly been blasted away. Keeping a partial tally of wedding parties eradicated by American air power at TomDispatch.com, I had counted five such "incidents" between December 2001 and July 2008. (A sixth in July 2002 in which possibly 40 Afghan wedding celebrants died and many more were wounded has since come to my attention, as has a seventh in August 2008.) Nor have other kinds of rites where significant numbers of Afghans gather been immune from attack, including funerals, and now, naming ceremonies. And keep in mind that these are only the reported incidents in a rural land where much undoubtedly goes unreported."
This has happened so often, and continues to happen with regularity, that one must conclude that it is policy to attack all festive gatherings. Why I do not know, but it appears to be so. This is state terrorism pure and simple. But what is the goal? This is not the way to win hearts and minds, but it certainly seems to be official policy.
Kent Shaw: I concur. IMO, these murders are to foment a steady supply of "enemies" to feed the MIC. Just like elementary marketing: create the need, then satisfy it.
Jack Chase
"This is, of course, even more true of the "pilots" who fly our latest wonder weapons, the Predators, Reapers, and other unmanned drones over American battle zones, while sitting at consoles somewhere in the United States."
Cowards. I'd like to meet one.
"Here's the fact of the matter: in the cities, towns, and villages of the distant lands where Americans tend to make war, civilians die regularly and repeatedly at our hands. Each death may contain its own uniquely nightmarish details, but the overall story remains remarkably repetitious. Such "incidents" are completely predictable."
Because they are predictable, they are premeditated. Premeditated killing of innocents is murder. Support the troops, support the murderers. We taxpayers are accessories to murder. No way out of it.
"and even our President, the "heaviest political artillery" (as one analyst called him), recently dropped in for a six-hour visit to "Afghanistan"
I wonder what would happen if the Iranians accidentally shot down Air Force One.
Sioux Rose
KENT: Powerful observation: "Because they are predictable, they are premeditated." So deathly true!
Sioux Rose, you are back. You were missed.
Sioux Rose
BRAITHWA: I check in often. I just don't always have time to post on a regular basis, but thank you for the warm welcome.
Nemesis is at our door.
"We are, of course, the rational ones, the grown-ups, the good governance team," It's been my experience that those who claim to be the 'grown ups' in the room are often the opposite.
I remember hearing an interview from some white house staffer during the bush2 heyday, and she was comparing dems and repubs to the tv show 'leave it to beaver'. She was saying the dems were like 'the beaver' well-meaning, but not so bright and needed oversight and help by the adults, the parents of beaver, the cleavers. She felt the bush white house and the repubs were the cleavers in the analogy. How sick.
Imo, on mythology, as beautiful, educational and applicable as mythology stories are, from Greek origins and elsewhere, it seems they were driven out, as they were no match for the guilt and fear driven cult madness of modern religion, with it's almost air-tight, numbing, mind-lock used for control of the masses. I suppose the ancient stories were sometimes used for control also, but it seems like they were nothing in comparison. I hope mythology of all kinds continues to make a come back; at least as popular allegory.
Regarding Mt Olympus, last year 25 top hedge fund managers made 1 billion each. Each. There is no way you can keep that money without thinking of your fellow human beings in the same way the Greek gods saw regular humans.
0 as Eddie Haskell?
that's just perfect ;) I'm sure the reich-wing white house op would agree with that one..
Anybody have an airplane? We could fly over Georgia, or Tennessee, or Idaho or ... and drop bombs on some unsuspecting house full of people ... then claim we thought they were anti-government militia when they ask us why we blew them up.
Makes about as much sense.
An ironic fact about the MIC is that they have not fought an industrial formidible foe since WWII. Yet they still prattle on about theatres of war and rules of engagement. The Americans actually think that theirs is a noble enterprise.
Even the Greek gods used to prefer a fair fight, not endless bullying.
I doubt very much military personnel are versed on ancient Greek mythology, as such study of classics is mostly discontinued in American education. It seems the ancient Greek mythological pantheon was originally populated by gods and heroes. Later, tragic heroes and monsters were added to the mix as Greeks tried to make ever more relevant representations of the world they found themselves living in. What originally began as a glorious win-win world of gods and heroes soon spawned the realm of tragic figures and monsters. How cruelly fitting then that our "god-given" American right for might finds our "heroes of battle" committing monstrous war crimes on the tragic victims caught in their midst.
Sioux Rose
AD NOSE: It's interesting how your worldview ENTIRELY eliminates any mention of the Goddesses who were also equally noteworthy on Olympus. You only mention gods and implied male heroes in your post. Odd.
the gods play cruel and IRONIC tricks- the story is not over yet.
Good article very good, but he did the same thing I've read from some other authors. He says "Such callous chit- chat is explained away in media articles...(then)have God like access to the skies and can hover over the rest of humanity, making prpeparations to wipe out LESSER BEINGS."
My point is that he could/should have said
who they deem as lesser beings" It would really have made more sense.
The silence of Colin Powell is deafening.
Trylon
He has not yet recovered from the presentation he made to the UN in 2003 justifying attacking Iraq when he 'proved' that it had 'Weapons of Mass Destruction'.
The Assignment written by Durrenmatt largely retells this tale in 24 sentences, referencing the Greeks in form and character names.
a truly great piece by engelhardt.
now ask yourselves, when the time comes, will these same people have any remorse when seeking to "engage" in their fellow americans?
i'm sorry, but they are fucking cowards. as kent shaw states, i'd like to meet one.
Well there it is, elegantly stated, and so we can see for ourselves the banality of evil. To live with and accept this, even for one day, as the good is insane, which describes the USA perfectly.
The US President is a latter day Genghis Khan with his small professional army made up of men taught to kill from an early age, goaded and given no other opportunity. Genghis lived not on Olympus but on the motion of horseback and riding skills that were apocalyptic at the time. Like him the US President kills others using apocalyptic weapons efficiently and with glee and sees the war booty as deservedly the victor's in accordance with a suitably invented 'God's' will. Like Genghis he needs a core of people of limited humanity to do his will (seen as His will), and so, even unwittingly, he limits the humanity of his people. The result is that his people are humanly inadequate.
This is a mass suicide by stupidity and the the evidence indicates that the USA is already destroyed, just like the Mongolian Empire that contained the seed of its own uselessness from the beginning. Now, as with Genghis and his people, the USA will bleed population as a steadily smaller group cluster around the US leader's control and dominate the wealth and it accordingly becomes a shame, like slavery, for anyone else to be of that country, for history will properly see US citizens as backward, and superfluous to the future.
This is because like Genghis Khan and his hordes they are. And there is no one else to blame but them.
Agree, hopefully the US will be the last 'great empire' and the last empire to find it's end in the 'graveyard of empires', although it seems that empire exists in today's international corporate structure too.
There are far too many advertisements glorifying the video game aspects of war.
Many start out with video game scenarios which morph into scenes glorifying the military.
And who are the twisted fuckers who produce these ads and the MSM which airs these abotions of reality?
And it's your tax dollar paying for these ads which are trying to convince your kids that war is cool and it's only a video game with no real consequences.
And Michele is on a royal visit to the recently colonized and truely fucked Haiti.
Bon chance ....
If Obama is Eddie Haskell, then the American sheeple are Ward and June Cleaver. Wall Street and the MIC are played by Wally and the Beav. Rahm Emanuel is Lumpy Rutherford. This is all very stupid, why am I doing this?
your first flashback!!!
and of course this horrible episode has now disappeared from the radar....................
Seems you are trying to lay blame on Engelhardt for somehow helping make Obama president. Monday morning quarterbacking and nothing to do with the article, other than you can't stand him.
If the question in 2004 or 2008 was "who is worse?", then the only credible answer after even a cursory examination is Bush and McCain, respectively. If the question is something bigger, that is, do you expect progressive change out of an Obama Regime, then the answer is "No". Obama was bad but not as bad as McCain/Palin by all kinds of reasonable measures.
Reasonable, but not global. On the big picture there are not that many differences, except in style and intellect. Obama is content to act as CEO/frontman for empire, but with some important differences in substance: domestic labor law enforcement, environment, stimulus targeting, judicial appointments - he is demonstrably better than McCain on all that. That is not the same thing as saying he is actually GOOD or PROGRESSIVE on those issues - only better or maybe just not as bad. The way non-aggressive late life prostate cancer is not as bad as aggressive malignant melanoma in your 30s. You end up dead either way by a roughly similar process but on two different timelines.
Until American voters figure out what's causing the cancer, the choice is always going to be the same. It doesn't make you an idiot to choose the lesser of two evils (even if they are also the evil of two lessers), UNLESS that's all you do. If you think that choice is defining and determinant, you're wrong. If you think it is one choice among many, necessary, but not sufficient, then your analysis is in fact, reasonable.
As Tom Hayden said, we can walk and chew gum at the same time.
This is a necessary post. We all make mistakes and Tom Engelhardt's was monstrous. But then the audacity of hope is an USA cliché on a par with Mickey Mouse, Marilyn Munroe, JFK, Jesus and a host of others that are established in the American mind with the help of Hollywood and Rambo in way that is so stupid and small minded that it is almost impossible to remember the details. It is a cacophony of the wilful bleatings of children! Read the Pied Piper again. The US political mind works on that level, but cannot understand why the children don't come back.
But make no mistake, this article is very good. That such an able man as TE and other astonishingly capable and good people in the USA can have been such fools indicates that the entire structure of thought in the USA needs an overhaul. The USA has been reduced to the absurd right in front of our eyes.
PS: There are many in my society (not USA) who believed in Obama too. At the time it was as if there was a plague of rank stupidity afoot. The Pied Piper tune being played by propagandists could/would not have been effective in a balanced and sane society.
We are witnessing mass insanity in the western world. War is totally unnecessary now. I mean WHAT? The opportunities we have in this world are enormous and scintillatingly exciting, but some bloody fools want to have it all, for they say if they do not take it all someone else will. A disproportionate collection of these some are in the USA. Like children (Israelis, Apartheid South Africans, Nazis, Genghis Khan and on and on) they are bent on literally destroying it all if they can't have it all.
'Hell bent' means just that. We must overcome them.
Their ineptitude results in a zero sum game as results when Game Theory is applied outside games. Game Theory, which works on the chess board or the game field, when applied to reality is founded on the abysmal insight famously and petulantly expressed by one of GW Bush,to the effect that, "If you are not with us you are against us." Game Theory in its present form and as presently applied is the product of Israeli minds. Game Theory in this form is a propagandists name for War Theory, which explains how the the US mind can believe that war is peace. Look it up on the internet and think!
If what's presently afoot was not so evil it would be hysterically funny.
"A disproportionate collection of these some are in the USA. Like children (Israelis, Apartheid South Africans, Nazis, Genghis Khan and on and on) they are bent on literally destroying it all if they can't have it all."
Many years ago my father had a comment about this sort of person. "They are like rats in a grain bin. What they can't eat, they piss in."
If that doesn't sum up our body politic and their masters, I don't know what does.
this is an excellently written article.
however it turns out for this "america" GODS OF OLYMPUS empire that seems to behave as "america looks down from Heaven" on the rest of humanity , dispensing its judgment as it sees fit ...as if the world and humanity were its playground...just like the Gods of Olympus....
we know that the Olympians eventually are no more.
of course it's also the genius of the Greeks - however they managed that - to create the Gods in human image as a metaphor really for what they could have known all too well --
are the "wanna-be-gods" behavior of humans themselves...complete with their own failures and frailties as well as potentials.
in any case - even those gods are consigned to history - in their place.....for the Myths that they were.
or -- on the other hand -- the American "gods" - just might turn out to be like the Nordic ones....who eventually arrived at their own Gotterdamerung , consumed in the fire of their own "Power".
Sioux Rose
TEDDY: I beg to differ!
Notable thinkers like Carl Jung, Jean Shinoda Bolen, Carolyn Myss and others see in myths a framework that explains some very enduring human archetypes. You dismiss the wisdom of the ancients at your intellectual peril.
Hi Sioux Rose,
You are right. For someone who wants an in depth look, I'd suggest spending a year or so reading and studying Joseph Campbell on myth, the power of myth and its necessity for survival.
Steve
Sioux Rose
MINITRUE: Hi! Over a week ago you asked my opinion on a link you posted. I did go to the link and I read the piece, but was unable to add any comment. It's probably due to my lack of left brain savvy. I just wanted to let you know I "completed the requested assignment." I can't provide feedback here as I've read so much since, my mind is rather blank on the topic... one current washes away another...
Nice hearing from you.
Hi SiouxRose ..i may have sounded dismissive of the Ancients. but I am not.
basically i was pointing out the genesis of mythologies with human desires, imagination, needs, frailties and seeking answers and how human beings seem to use mythologies as a way to "explain" things one way or another.
for example:
if our flying machines appeared in medieval europe or anywhere - without ever allowing themselves to "descend" in a way that people, over time, could examine and find out that they are merely human made machines....people , according to their circumstance might think these are "gods"...
or if these machines dropped bombs, nuked people and places...they would be godlike...or sent down with great fanfare some tiny vials that exploded in the air and reduced the population with small pox, malaria, etc....they would be thought of "punishment" -- but by WHOM? it would have to be "gods".
WE would think some space aliens eons ahead of us - beyond our comprehension to be superbeings and like gods who would even appear like jesus christ and raise the dead, erase blight at the wave of a hand....and we'd think :
wow -- there isn't just ONE christ after all....we have to change our belief - there are MANY christs...but they are GOD!
so , no, it's not that I dismiss the ancients. in fact I consider the Ancient Greeks as having said just about EVERYTHING about the human condition as most of us know it...and in one piece i wrote - i called it "the genius" of the greeks - in how well they comprehended things and - in their way , sent through time -- that AWARENESS through mythologies from which themselves were derived much of the great philosophical treatieses.
you could see this plainly in the way Socrates "spoke" in the works of his own students or other admirers such as in Plato's dailogue "Apologia"...or the plays by the others like Aristophanes..
and yet how these were all imbibed with the mythologies they all inherited ...as for example how Socrates in Apologia (where he is accused by the Athenians of "corrupting the youth" with his style of inquiry for the Truth and henceforth ordered to drink hemlock) STILL refers with assumed acceptance the "fact" of "the gods"..
it's quite amazing in fact how their ideas have withstood the test of time...and -- as you have reminded me correctly - there IS wisdom in the "ancients" such as these for their inquiries and observations because so much of what they long ago spoke of --
are quite exactly the SAME things that repeat themselves again and again and again....
WAR - as socrates said : IS STILL
"nothing more than Rape , Pillage and Robbery of other people's Treasures"...
as he would have seen at the height of the greek "democracy" along with the Peloponnesian war and the overwhelming of Athens by the Spartans.
just as the "Ancients" among the greeks identified that "HUBRIS eventually Meets NEMESIS".
but the american Empire does not seem to have learned a Darn thing, EVEN from its own supposed "western classical traditions"!!!
how can it be expected to LEARN anything from the experience of the EAST or others, among which the "western tradition" ITSELF is merely ONE of several in this world ?.
The Greek gods were noble, majestic,endowed with superhuman qualities,great personal powers,petulant,proud,quick to anger,generous,capable of love and hate,fiercely loyal,and most important,courageous -in short they had qualities that made them godlike.They had little interest in human affairs except when intervening to help,punish or avenge a wrong.
To compare the pathologically sick US military establishment, with no redeeming qualities,to Greek gods is to dignify rabid,heartless killers prowling around the sky on hitech machines,lacking the courage fight face to face,without any soldierly qualities.The moment US troops come under attack,even protected in their spacesuit like gear,they call for air support.
They are not good human beings,they are not even good soldiers.Nothing godlike about them.
We don't have soldiers in the US military. We have animals. Yet, even animals wouldn't act as despicably as these dumb, inhuman beasts we call soldiers.
Hey, waitaminutethere! They are our best and brightest! Isn't that what we are often told? I'd hate to meet our worst and dumbest.
I'm trying to recall that AMERICAN general (was it Smedley Butler ? or WEstmoreland?)
that said:
"you can huzzah it, you can have parades and monuments about it, you can have flags and medals about it...but War is nothing but MURDER IN UNIFORM".
in that case - the USA has the world's "greatest" ORGANIZATION for MURDER in UNIFORM - spread over 800 military bases across the planet - to the tune of at least 53 cents of every Tax Dollar....
what a neat little Operation, isn't it? and THAT is the one the really FLIES the FLAG of the United States of America.
"our foreign policy hs always been geared towards gathering as much of the world's resources unto ourselves at the expense of others...the TRUE PURPOSE of our armed forces is to make the world safe for our BIG BOSS: our supernationalistic Capitalism..and our cultural and economic Assault...we are GANGSTERS for Capitalism...what we do is EVIL".
General Smedley Butler, US Marines, 1933.
I thank Tom for bringing us the truth but it is so very painful. We need the compassionate Americans who are living in denial of America's blame for the attacks against the U.S. by terrorist. If you kill indiscriminately, you or someone you love, might get killed indiscriminately. We can't even go to the streets with our message of peace because many American people cannot tell the difference between the tea party demonstrators protesting social programs and high taxes from the war protesters.
George W. Bush's wars of choice were not accidents. They were planned prior to the selection of GWB to be our dictator, and were dependent upon the criminals in the Supreme Court to set the judicial coupe de etat in motion. These are WAR CRIMES of the HIGHEST ORDER. Those responsible did it FOR THE MONEY! There is NO MORE JUSTICE in the United States of the International Corporations, and no rule of law. The rich elite get away with murder and all kinds of other crimes, while the poor are subject to draconian prison systems run by private corporations and a court system that has been sold to the highest bidder. We are so FUCKED!
Shooting unarmed civilians from the sky in their country.
Can anyone say that the helicopter crew are American heros?
I will never say that I am "Proud to be an American".
Satish writes:
The gods "had little interest in human affairs except when intervening to help,punish or avenge a wrong."
I disasgree with the use of "a wrong" in the context.
Humans were literally pawns in the games of the gods, and the idea of "wrong" in the morality sense doesn't apply because what the gods lacked was a superego. (Some would say that not only can this be an advantage, for he who hesitates is lost, but it also defines the sociopath.)
Interesting to me is how the gods so often argued over their mortal lovers. If you stole my mortal lover that was "wrong" and I'm gonna get back at you...but morality has nothing to do with this "wrong." The gods were in this sense extremely childlike. I think they also envied the mortals, as though they sensed that the mortals possessed something the gods did not, perhaps for example, the ability to reflect on the nature of mortality.
This is how these drone pilots are gods. They have no conscience. Or, if they do it has been systematically excised from their consciousness of it. Perhaps they, too, may come to envy us mere mortals.
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I think this is basically the strongest way of describing that mythology.
at least it seems to be the case from the way the single greatest body of work giving a "compendium" of their mythology by Homer in his two great works of Iliad and Odyssey.
Gods who seem so "human" in their desires and even selfishness as well as callousness - yet also having the other emotions or states of mind like "love, friendship, loyalty" - and then again, betrayal, treason, envy and jealousy, ....lust , bloodthirstiness and vengeance.
Who would create a god better than themselves? look at all your Holy-books all gods have feet of clay
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The Greek gods intervened in human affairs only when their emotions were roused.They were nor more moral than humans but were humans magnified.But they had superhuman strength and power,so they could be capricious and vengeful as well as loving and protective.But unless they were provoked they left humans alone.But if a person had hubris or thought he was godlike,then he was punished.The Greeks learnt not to anger the gods in any way.
The US pilots who murdered people in the Iraqi street display no emotion.They were not personally upset in any way.They fired those guns because they could and in spite of knowing that the men on the ground posed no danger to them.They sounded bored.They were not god like in any way.
The Greek gods,who were after all creations of the human mind,had human qualities though amplified.The interventions of the gods explained events in people's lives which left people otherwise bewildered.
But OleManRiver's observation on the use of the word 'wrong'is appropriate.By 'wrong' I meant whatever upset them,in a subjective sense,not morally wrong.
I always appreciate what Tom has to say. His articles are usually thought provoking.
I don't have anything deep or insightful to say regarding his reference to Greek mythology. It's pretty apt I suppose.
All I know is, America's well deserved day of reckoning cannot be far off.
In a long chain of connection that starts with my tax dollars and ends with the press of the joystick’s button, I am become death, the destroyer of worlds; a complicit pawn in their game. While reading ‘A Conscious Pariah’ by Nathaniel Popper in The Nation which discusses the scholarly sparring of Raul Hilberg and Hannah Arendt that developed from their books The Destruction of European Jewry and Eichmann in Jerusalem, I was struck by a wave of Instant Karma as I read ‘Unlike the prosecutor, Arendt saw Eichmann not as a monster but a bureaucrat. “The trouble with Eichmann,” she said, “was precisely that so many were like him and that the many were neither perverted nor sadistic; that they were, and still are, terribly and terrifying normal.”’ While I welcome nuclear arms reduction, I fear that the hard rain that may one day fall on me will be an IED-style weapon launched by an anonymous source at an innocent target in answer to the cyber- warfare of the USA. Until the new rules are written and understood, there is no difference in the outcome of state terror and state-less terror. Before allied governments could recognize and react to the new rules of engagement written by the German bureaucracy to realize Hitler’s ‘Final Solution’, millions of innocents were murdered. One wonders if Hilberg were still living could he decide what social machinery allows such a political evil in the USA. Will someone in the future look back and expose the insensitive, unresponsive, judenrate-like populace of willing and self-serving collaborators in the crimes against humanity? With the Geneva Convention pushed aside and irrelevant, how many more innocent people will die by remote-controlled “targeted killing” before new rules are written to quell the madness this time; before it is too late for me or you, your loved-ones, more Afghanis, more Iraqis, . . .?