Shame: The 'Anti-War' Democrats Who Sold Out
In a historic vote, only 30 of 256 Democrats stood against $100 billion for more war.
In a vote that should go down in recent histories as a day of shame
for the Democrats, on Tuesday the House voted to approve another $106
billion dollars for the bloody wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (and
increasingly Pakistan). To put a fine point on the interconnection of
the iron fist of U.S. militarism and the hidden hand of free market
neoliberal economics, the bill included a massive initiative to give the International Monetary Fund billions more in U.S. taxpayer funds.
What
once Democrats could argue was "Bush's war," they now officially own.
In fact, only five Republicans voted for the supplemental (though
overwhelmingly not on the issue of the war funding). Ron Paul, who made
clear he was voting against the war, was a notable exception.
This
vote has revealed a sobering statistic for the anti-war movement in
this country and brought to the surface a broader issue that should
give die-hard partisan Democrats who purport to be anti-war reason for
serious pause about the actual state of their party. Only 30 Democrats
voted against the war funding when it mattered. And these 30 did so in
the face of significant threats to their political future from the
White House and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. That means that only 30 out
of 256 Democrats are willing to stand up to the war and the current
president presiding over it. Their names are listed below; I would
encourage people to call them and thank them for standing up and voting
no when it counted.
Two other Democrats, not expected to vote
against the war funding, joined the anti-war Democrats. Brad Sherman
and Pete Stark brought the total number of Democratic votes against the
supplemental to 32.
Now, there are many Democrats who
consistently vote for war funding, including Nancy Pelosi, but not many
of them have such little shame that they dare characterize themselves
as anti-war. Remember, 221 voted Tuesday in favor of the war funding.
But for those who campaign as anti-war and signed pledges not to
continue funding war and then vote for billions more for wars they
claim to oppose, Tuesday should be remembered as a day of shame and
cowardice. Here are the Democrats who voted against war funding when it
didn't count and yes (on Tuesday) when it did--and when refusing to do
so might have affected them personally: Yvette Clarke, Steve Cohen, Jim
Cooper, Jerry Costello, Barney Frank, Luis Gutierrez, Jay Inslee, Steve
Kagen, Edward Markey, Doris Matsui, Jim McDermott, George Miller, Grace
Napolitano, Richard Neal (MA), James Oberstar, Jan Schakowsky, Mike
Thompson, Edolphus Towns, Nydia Velázquez, and Anthony Weiner. These
legislators should be called and asked why they voted for war funding
they claimed to oppose last month.
Tuesday's vote came after an intense campaign by progressive bloggers, activists
and anti-war Congressmembers Dennis Kucinich, Lynn Woolsey and Jim
McGovern to get the 39 Democrats needed to block war funding to vote
against it. This was made possible due to a roller-coaster-like series
of events in the weeks and days preceding the vote.
The White
House and the Democratic Congressional Leadership played a very dirty
game in their effort to ram through the funding. In the crosshairs of
the big guns at the White House and on Capitol Hill were anti-war
legislators (particularly freshmen), and the movement to hold those
responsible for torture accountable.
In funding the wars post-Bush, the Obama White House has been able to rely
on strong GOP support to marginalize the anti-war Democrats who pledged
back in 2007 to vote against continued funding (as 51 Democrats did in
May when the supplemental was first voted on). But the White House ran
into trouble on this bill because of Republican opposition to some of
the provisions added to the bill (primarily the IMF funding) and one
removed (the Graham-Lieberman amendment that would have blocked the
release of prisoner abuse photos). This created a situation where the
White House and pro-war Democrats actually need a fair number of
anti-war Democrats (whose votes seldom matter this much) to switch
sides and vote with them. That is why this battle was so important for
the anti-war movement.
Many Democrats (who may not have
necessarily been against the supplemental) were up in arms when the
Graham-Lieberman provision (which the White House “actively” supported) was on the table. Facing warnings that it could derail the funding package, the White House stepped in, deploying
Rahm Emanuel to the Hill to convince legislators to drop the amendment,
while at the same time pledging that Obama would use his authority to
continue to fight the release of more photos:
Emanuel ‘rushed’ to Capitol Hill and prevailed upon Senate Democrats to remove the torture photo measure in exchange for an explicit White House promise that it would use all means at its disposal to block the photos’ release. Obama also issued a letter to Congress assuring it he would support separate legislation to suppress the photos, if necessary, and imploring it to speed passage of the war-spending bill. The rider would “unnecessarily complicate the essential objective of supporting the troops,” Obama wrote.
In other words,
Obama took a position that amounted to providing political cover to
Democrats to support the war funding, while pledging to implement,
through other means, the very policy they supposedly found
objectionable.
From the jump, the White House and Democratic Leadership had the gloves off in the fight. Consider this report from last week:
Rep. Lynn Woolsey of California, a leader of the antiwar Democrats, said the White House is threatening to withdraw support from freshmen who oppose the bill, saying “you’ll never hear from us again.”
She said the House leadership also is targeting the freshmen.
It’s really hard for the freshmen,” she said. “Nancy’s pretty powerful.”
Jane Hamsher, meanwhile, reported
on Monday that it appeared Emanuel was "cutting deals with Republicans
to go easy on them in the 2010 elections in exchange for votes." In the
end, the White House got five Republicans to vote for the funding,
including New York Republican John McHugh, the man President Obama
nominated two weeks ago to be Army secretary. A "senior Republican
source" according
to FOX News "suggested McHugh could be creating a conflict of interest
by voting on military-related legislation while his Army secretary
nomination is pending before the Senate."
What repelled the
Republicans from a vote to fund the war was hardly a sudden conversion
to pacifism (in fact, their position was hypocritical).
It was largely when the White House and Congressional Democratic
leadership added a provision to the bill that will extend up to $100
billion in credits to the International Monetary Fund. This sent many
Republicans to the microphones to denounce the funding as a "global
bailout" and will undoubtedly be used as a campaign issue in 2010 to
attack the Democrats who voted for the spending bill. For its part, the
Democratic leadership, in trying to win Democratic support, portrayed
the IMF funding as a progressive policy:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., is trying to paint the IMF provision as a “very important national security initiative.” The IMF, she said, “can be a force for alleviating the fury of despair among people, poor people throughout the world.”
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer's office put out a position paper
that declared the IMF funding "is key to making us more secure," adding
that the money will ensure that the "IMF has the ability to play its
central role in resolving and preventing the spread of international
economic and financial crises." The paper also provided a litany of
comments from prominent Republicans praising the IMF, including from
the Bretton Woods Committee (Henry Kissinger, Condoleezza Rice, Henry
Paulson, Robert Rubin, James A. Baker, Nicholas F. Brady, Colin Powell,
Paul A. Volcker, Paul H. O’Neill, etc.). Also, Ronald Reagan, George
H.W. Bush, Newt Gingrich and, of course, George W. Bush.
If there was a real opposition party in Congress, all of this would have provided yet more reasons to vote against the bill.
It
is a pathetic symbol of just how bankrupt the Congressional Democratic
leadership is when it comes to U.S. foreign policy that Pelosi, Hoyer
et al are trying to use funding for the IMF to convince other Democrats
to support war funding. The IMF has been a destabilizing force in many
countries across the globe through its austerity measures and
structural adjustment schemes. Remember, it was the policies of the IMF
and its cohorts at the World Bank and World Trade Organizations that
sparked global uprisings in the 1990s.
To support the IMF funding scam, the Center for American Progress, which has passionately supported Obama’s escalation of the war in Afghanistan, released a position paper this week called, “Bailing Out the Bailer-Outer: Five Reasons Congress Should Agree to Fund the IMF.”
Thankfully,
at least a handful of Democrats seemed to understand the atrocious role
the IMF has played and tried (unsuccessfully) to impose rules
on the funding that would have confronted the IMF’s austerity measures
by requiring that “the funds allocated by Congress for global stimulus
are used for stimulatory, and not contractionary, purposes.”
In urging their colleagues to oppose the war funding and
the IMF funding, Kucinich and California's Bob Filner sent a Dear
Colleague letter, which stated: "The IMF has a long history of placing
economic conditions on countries receiving loans that have actually
damaged, rather than stimulated, those economies, and its policies have
not changed enough to warrant support." They charged that the IMF
funding "would be used to bail out private European banks with U.S.
taxpayer money." In addition to the military and IMF funding, the bill
also provides $10.4 billion for the State Department and the U.S. Agency for
International Development (USAID), and $7.7 billion for "Pandemic Flu
Response."
Under the leadership of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid,
the Democratic-controlled Congress has been a house of war.
Unfortunately, it is not a house where the war is one of noble
Democrats fighting for peace, freedom and democracy against the evil,
belligerent Republicans as they advocate and implement policies of
preemptive war, torture and the violation of civil liberties. Instead,
it is a house void of substantive opposition to the ever-expanding war
begun under Bush and escalating under Obama.
Tuesday's vote
was another one of those moments in Congress where heroes are made,
like the day when Sen. Russ Feingold stood alone as the sole Senator to
vote against the USA Patriot Act. To paraphrase Bush, it was one of
those days when we truly discover who is for war and who is against it.
Below are the Democrats who stood against Obama's expanding war
the day their votes mattered (See where your Representative stood here):
Tammy
Baldwin, Michael Capuano, John Conyers, Lloyd Doggett, Donna Edwards,
Keith Ellison, Sam Farr, Bob Filner, Alan Grayson, Raul Grijalva,
Michael Honda, Marcy Kaptur, Dennis Kucinich, Barbara Lee, Zoe Lofgren,
Eric Massa, Jim McGovern, Michael Michaud, Donald Payne, Chellie
Pingree, Jared Polis, Jose Serrano, Carol Shea-Porter, Jackie Speier,
John Tierney, Nikki Tsongas, Maxine Waters, Diane Watson, Peter Welch,
and Lynn Woolsey.
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Just how do you shame your representative? Hell mine, Oberstar is never available to talk to, answers to letters appear to be form response reply letters. When I've inquired to his aide when and where he would be so I could be there, instead of reading about it in the paper after the fact, the reply was that it was undetermined.
One idea, although you risk a lot of public scorn, is the 4th of July area parades. Many times political people show up in these, especially before up coming elections. Have your sign, light weight wood and your question or comment written on it, get up front and bang on it as your representative parades by.
The weird thing is that committed Dem voters haven't yet felt a wave of revulsion.
-TIA
Shame? Democrats have absolutely no idea what that means.
Our government is not only wrong, it's illegitimate.
It's out of compliance with the Constitution and rule of law and seems determined to remain so.
What's next is up to us.
We should all be aware finally in this 21st Century that the only thing that counts in this country led by this despicable government is:
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and the only language the leading pols speak is:
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So if you think you're going to change the system by, "hoping", "writing", "cajoling", even by, "voting" you're all sadly mistaken.
It's time for street protesting...
Cut up your credit cards;
Stay away from shopping for a week; shop only in "survivor" mode;
Become a true, "anti-consumer" for real;
Send back all solicitations for money to the pols (no matter which party they belong);
And the corrupt Union leadership can help by instigating sit down strikes across the country.
That's a start.....
Nothing else is going to work......nothing.
That's history......
What are the demands?
How does one help build confidence and courage to sit down in someone already peeing their pants daily over job security, and for who survivor mode is going through the drive through at the local fast food joint when the refrigerator is low on food?
(these are actually real questions)
sierra7
If you have to ask,"...what are the demands?" You don't understand the premise. And, you have never had to "fight" for what rights you think you have had...or will have (or don't or have not)....
A good place to start is STOP THE WARS; Dismantle the military/industrial/media/$$$$$/political institutions; Dismantle the giant global banking system (return to local banking to serve the communities; Universal Single Payer Health Care; total conversion to green technology (not euphemism's like, "clean coal" etc..); a living wage; and so much more that would truly make a democratic republic a good place to live.....
What did that famous document declare:
"....These Truths to be SELF-EVIDENT....?" (Paraphrase to fit)
Wake up!!
What I was looking for was a list of demands I would make if I did a sit in at my Congressional office starting tomorrow. The "good place to start..." seems a bit much, I'm not sure the resent successful sit down strike in Chicago went about it that way(?).
Though I am a bit of a sleepy head so thanks for the wake up call!
As Kucinich stated war is for sure our biggest export (as the military industrial complex and their investors thrive).
Why can't Mr. Bipartisan Obomba simply state that, "I agree with Eisenhower, a moderate, war-experienced Republican who warned of the MIC as a plague on our land and the world; and, therefore I, the most politically powerful being on Earth, will shut down these goddam wars ASAP!"
"My" congressman Baird voted for it, as I expected. I've been telling people for the longest time to vote for the people who they never see on the TV - they have no money to "get their message out," and would be a zillion times more trustworthy with the office of congresscritter.
Our Federal Representative was elected as the only Iraq war veteran in Congress. He was voted in supposedly to help close down America's wars in the Middle East and bring our troops home. This congressman, Rep. Patrick Murphy (Dem.PA) voted "yes" to this bill. Yes, Obama and Pelosi threatened freshman congresspeople--like Murphy--with no future support or contact if they should vote "no". It would seem, then, that our present Federal representative is as much of a fraud and coward as our present President.
Rep. Patrick Murphy should remember, also, that his predecessor, Republican, Mike Fitzpatrick-- was the first congressperson of his own party to publically renounce the war policies of the Bush admininistration
The Los Angeles Times today refers to the "anti-war liberals" who voted against the bill. But wait a minute: all but five of the Republicans voted against the bill, too. Does that make the Republicans "anti-war liberals?"
No. They're antiwar or temporarily antiwar or anti-this-particular-bill Republicans.
Alternately, they could have just flicked the pen at the wrong column or whatever.
Feed your head, m'dear!
"Does that make the Republicans "anti-war liberals?""
Hardly. But the reality is neither party was truly anti-war pro-peace to begin with. If it weren't for the IMF thing, all the Republicans would have gone along with it as usual.
I don't like to judge by party but instead by each individual pol and his or her take on the issues. Try it. You'll be surprised at the results. It's unfortunate that trying to convince most voters to vote with their hearts and minds on the issues instead of by party doesn't register with them.
Sioux Rose
ALICE: We're all cascading down that rabbit hole now. Apt observation you made.
It doesn't matter who is in power. After thirty years of incompetence when the 'Greed is Good' mantra sold off all manufacturing capability for short term profit The USA has nothing left to sell but death.
Warmongers, munitions, enough lies to create a market for both; the USSR could come nowhere near being the world's greatest evil empire.
And we owe it all to Ronald Reagan and the church created in his name by the far right. Even now, when everybody knows it has done what the USSR could not, i.e. bring the USA to it's knees, the church is packed every time the doors are open.
I just watched a cartoon from the forties with my grand kids. The flag was in every scene. I told them that symbol had cost them everything they might ever have had.
Sioux Rose
NEITSCHZE: I disagree! I can't put it as well as the inspired Unity minister did years ago when she explained life the day before the (first) Great Depression and after, but the bottom line was that the same resources were all there; and the key resource was and remains human ingenuity.
Had we the leadership or muscle to turn G.M. into a central hub in a national plan aimed at greening basic infrastructure a lot of people could be employed, or trained to then go out to other communites and set up satellites where this type of technology got rapidly underway. Tragically, the elites have their man in D.C. and as we have readily noted in this forum, the money is being instead thrown at banks (now even foreign ones), the military, insurance companies, and energy offenders (clean? coal/green? nuclear). There is not really a lack of resources, only the missing will to make efficacious use of these times to do the wise and right (i.e. in service to the "greater good") thing. Instead, we are being rushed closer to the abyss. It is a stunning defeat that is so avoidable that being forced like Cassandra to stand by and watch the prophecy unfold breaks my heart.
Are you sure you are disagreeing with me? The wealth that might have been theirs will not be theirs.
If you mean that the human will might raise from the ashes an all new system that will produce a more simple way of life that redefines the word 'Nation" and "Society" and actually makes happiness possible, I agree.
But history is a remorseless creditor. First we and our kids will pay for what we allowed to happen----probably in a currency harder than anyone could have imagined.
I would love to haul the warmongers in chains before the next generation to explain to them what it was they bought with money and why it was so much more important than common decency.
I love you Rose.
Sioux Rose
NIETZSCHE: What a sweet response! Everything you utter in this response I totally agree with. What I meant to challenge (politely, of course) was the idea that the ONLY thing the U.S. had to sell was death. That's where I was speaking of the untapped resource of human ingenuity. The threads we read here about the way education is doing its utmost to turn our children/grandchildren into functional test-answering parrot/robots of course does a good deal to disable this innate quality (or resource).
I do agree a price will be extracted, and while we each follow our own karmic trajectory, we also share in group karma through the overall deeds of our nation. It is a darkly curious thing that, as you relate, the churches are full. When fear rises to a high crescendo and persons feel clueless to the insecurities of time and the dangers of their world, many cling to a faith in something that will act as their source of deliverance. I can understand that. What troubles me is the degree to which orthodox religions have modeled themselves after ideological teams at war with one another; and the most egregious sin of all is when any (and they all do) claim GOD'S will for their wont to destroy the other "team." This is the idea and ideology I seek to deconstruct by presenting a more encompassing view of the relationship between the endless heavens and our little spinning earth. I seek to expand the definition of God/Goddess by sharing again one of the oldest, most poetic and metaphorical stories of our Creation: the story of the archetypal 12 (known to Jesus as the disciples, to Abraham as the original tribes, and to the astrological as the prototypes drawn from a cosmic blueprint. There are 4 blood types and 4 elements, and I believe there are specific qualities that function like spiritual DNA. These form the secret heritage of individuals....
Thank you again for such a moving response! It charms me.
The Democratic party will have to be bulldozed and wrecking balled to the ground and then completely rebuilt if it is ever to be effective again in progressive politics.
We have a group in San Mateo County called People of CA 12 that lobbies our rep. Jackie Speier hard on issues like this. Speier was one of the 30 who voted no, and I think the citizens' lobbying had something to do with it.
Please continue to vote for the mainstream candidates who are winnable because their first allegiance is to the corporate elite, and you might get a few crumbs.
Please continue to support Obama, Hillary, Biden because they are a true opposition to the republican thugs, and because some of the corrupt democrats will now get some of the slime money that was going to the republicans.
Please don't make yourself aware of third party candidates or their issues because you might become more uncomfortable as you are pulling the lever for Obama in the election booth.
Sorry to interrupt your snooze. Please go back to your video games, television, SUVs, but pay no attention to the people dying in the streets from US weapons and policy, because they are after all, in another country and don't really matter.
Hope is the opiate of the masses.
Can we now dispense with the phony BS of "hope" and get on with our anger?
You can see why this libertarian says "A plague on BOTH their houses!" when he speaks or writes of the Demopublicans and Republicrats. The enemies of peace are in Mordor-on-the-Potomac.
Libertarians are Republicans that like to smoke dope.
No voters are given the go ahead to vote no, only after passage is locked in.
This maintains the illusion of an opposition.
after this egregious breach of trust, anyone who still believes there is a difference between democrat/republican, or liberal/conservative is a schmuck.
its all about the money. we dont own this country anymore and you can thank the citizens who have become acclimated to being lied to and treated like slaves.
some of us call and send letters to congressmen and senators, but others just sit their fat asses on the couch and vote for who they want to kick off their favorite tv show.
its despicable.
Jeremy,
Great article. Caught you on the Bill Maher show. Thanks for giving voice to so many often over-looked facts, including the million deaths that have resulted from our invasion of Iraq. Maher questioned you on it and your response was great. You earn a logarithmic gold star.
30 out of 256 sure speaks of the party. I am so sick and tired of the party loyalists telling us to just vote for more Democrats and then everything will be better when in fact, they conveniently ignore the existing party members who are doing the GOP's dirty work for them. If I'm noticing a pattern here, it's that when one side is in the minority, that same side pretends to be for the people by simply shifting the blame to the party in power. Meanwhile, the other side thinks that they don't owe the voters anything and will even count on bloody fools to tell us to "make them do it" ! I hope that more Republicans and Democrats understand that most of us who vote 3rd party are actually paying attention to the individual candidates and their positions on the issues and not judging by party labels. We welcome disaffected Republicans and Democrats to join us. Thank you.
I strongly agree and cannot tolerate the way both parties exploit and abuse people's feelings just for political expediency. Welcome back and I hope you're feeling better. Take care.
"I hope that more Republicans and Democrats understand ..."
Based on the few political conversations I've had with friends recently, they're not even close to coming out of their stupor.
I've seen similar too months before though I don't know what my coworkers think of the two parties since I'm working from home. My guess is most of these people rely on poorly informed sources of information. Even on the Internet, judging by the number of comments on poorly informed blogs such as Huffpost, CNN, Faux Noise, ABC, etc ... I can see that we have mountains to climb. Good luck to us all.
For five years the corporate media told us that Democrats must vote for every Bush war supplemental or else they're un-American, terrorist loving pansies and will lose their seat come next election.
This message was repeated so loudly and so often virtually every progressive radio and t.v. commentator also hammered it home as gospel.
Yesterday ONLY FIVE Republicans voted for the first Iraq/Af-Pak funding of the Obama era and I don't hear ANYONE calling them communist sympathizers.
Isn't it amazing how quickly the most often repeated propaganda vanishes in Planck time when it suits the need of the ruling class?
Is it time yet for a new Fairness Doctrine and breaking up the media megaliths or should we wait until we have a half dozen more wars in progress?
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Whoever controls the media controls the country. Period.
However, MOST of the Republicans used the excuse that it was the IMF clause that they were voting against. As for the media, it is an extention of the international corporations which now own it. Independant news soons folds due to lack of advertising, needed to supply the necessary funding to keep an agency afloat. I hope we can break up these megaliths as you profess, but I don't hold out much hope in the near future. The internet is the one best hope as of now, but even that is being 'bullied' by shills who only seem to want to listen to one side. The good point is that there are litterally millions of sites to choose from and one can get a balanced message if one wishes to do so.
100% in agreement.
Unfortunately, the Democraps are just fine with the media the way it is. They know if they were to run against the media, it would backfire on them.
I think what we need is for the FCC to require free airtime to all candidates as part of their licensing process. Every candidate that qualifies for the ballot deserves equal opportunity to spread his/her message to the populace.
Jeremy,
Thanks for your excellent article exposing the hypocrisy of the so-called anti-war Democrats. I will spread this article amongst Obama supporters just as I spread your previous articles about Blackwater, etc. amongst Bush supporters.
At times like this I believe the 2 parties should just merge and rename itself the "Corporate-war party".
Sioux Rose
BT: You have a point, although you could add big pharma, prison-industrial and no doubt a few other industries to the list.
Is the peace movement ready to unite yet?
I certainly am. I think we have great people here on CD, and there are may more like us out there who are not on this site. This has become the single most important issue for me. That's not to say health care, gay rights, etc are not important, but I see this utter military madness engulfing the world, with the epicenter right here in the US. And it's destroying us. So I have made war protesting and peace promotion my most important issue.
I believe it was SIOUX ROSE here who first suggested, in response to something CEE MIRACLES wrote, that we all band together and put money towards a huge one-page ad in one of the major newspapers denouncing the war(s). I really think the idea has some merit, and what better time than now, after this blatant sell-out. Perhaps we could even convince some of the congress people who voted "No" to help us out.
Comments?
"Peace is not merely a distant goal that we seek, but a means by which we arrive at that goal." - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
I'm in if this is the first and foremost guiding principle.
Sioux Rose
SEVENTH SON: You rang? I do think a media campaign is long overdue... do realize that some of these insidious organs of propaganda reject copy even when the funds to pay for it are made available!
It would be great if CD could get a radio bandwidth or even something left over from the new TV digital conversion. And then rally that media into something that reaches out and touches more citizens. As for the ad, I'd put $100 if others would, too. Which periodical would we aim for? And I wonder what it costs to get an AD that would show at a movie theater? That is another way to go. Surely someone in this forum is good with a video camera, or digital camera? We have to think out of the box... I mean we could even have a CD "barbershop quartet" that sang powerful lyrics and try to get it on David Letterman or something! It is the era where we must be more creative than those who have found ways to shut voices down and out for too long!
I'd go with a/some billboards that funneled people to a web site and/or phone bank, and helped with the creation and sustenance of a cash flow.
To me these ideas of creating alternate media is the way to go. The 11th or 12th Allied Media Conference is happening in Detroit over July 13-15th(?). I attended one two years back; it's a very diverse group(s) that pretty much have their cause focused on, but their getting pretty sophisticated whether the media is high tech or the street scene. Searching AMC2009 or Allied Media Conference should get you more info; maybe add Detroit.
Ultimately face to face and hand to hand is the basis of the movement that will bring a greater world peace. Eyes On The Prize is a great documentary on the Civil Rights movement. Especially with voter registration it was face to face and hand to hand. Plus the music was intergenerational. I've been to a few intergenerational events now and a similar theme occurs: hip hopsters sling their riffs and the elders ask them to slow it down or soften it...the hipsters say "listen harder", the elders play nice and smile, and the void in communication is left gaping. At the mentioned media conference I attended, Blair, a National Slam Poet winner and local award winning Detroit artist, gave a presentation on Slave Songs, in it he mentioned how many Slave Songs and Religious songs had hidden meanings...through it's pacing and word play most of youthful songs of today are obscuring their meaning except for their intended audience: whenever possible this should be pointed out to youth performers, at least in regard to political songs - there's a total void of consecrating music for a peace movement like the spirituals that served the civil rights movement so well.
Also from that media conference was the idea of taking advantage multiple points of public access; I can't recall the actual phrase used, but the thought I had from it was that many people have computers with printers, so instead of one person/group doing all the printing and distribution, one editorial group could email out a weekly/bi-weekly newsletter that refutes the war-mongering argument of the day while extolling the vision and process of peace, asking for donations/promoting cash flow producing peace events, a persistent networking and "sowing" of the planetary quilt of peace ; with people committing to posting the newsletter at so many bulletin boards and/or personal hand delivery.
Thinking of creating a new "stay on message" MoveOn or Peace Action should be on the table, for me a humanitarian movement is the way to go and let the politicians react to the People when They find and coalesce Their Power; Peace Action, at least in the Detroit area is a front for the Democratic Party, continually squashing any real humanitarian action in the name of pragmatic politics, and the current organizers (IAC) of any national action to easily preach violence, and practically demand oaths to freeing Mumia before any so called peace discussion can be had - so a new movement based on the people with baby strollers that came out that glorious weekend in February of 2003 is what I'm looking for.
Sioux Rose
PUCK: Interesting post. It makes me think about the strategy of utilizing a transit bus with a message posted (and perhaps a website), or using the subway to post placards there? I will give this some thought, and hope that Seventh Son does likewise.
I have often thought billboards would be a great medium. Imagine hundreds of billboards proclaiming the slogan (of someone else, I don't know who to credit): "Who would Jesus Torture?" It might make some of those fake Christians give a second thought about their unquestioning support for torture.
Unfortunately even billboards and transit posters come back to the problem of control exerted by the media companies. Most of the billboard owners are highly conservative and refuse to post "liberal" messages.
Remember the excuse given when PETA and MoveOn wanted to place ads during the superbowl? Sorry, "issue" ads are not allowed, while we have no problem advertising alcohol to minors and encouranging them to go out, have fun, get drunk, and kill themselves. But stopping torture of people or animals? No, that would be unethical.
Sioux Rose
BYSTANDER: That is my fear, too. I can tell you in my PERSONAL experience that prior to the right wing takeover of radio I was a frequent guest on a variety of stations throughout Florida. Since l995 I have not had ONE interview or guest appearance. That is NOT coincidence. It's the same mechanism operating that keeps Nader off the airwaves, and most progressive voices. And it is true that even if someone has the money to pay for ad copy, that is not a guarantee the material will get into print. When I began writing about the impact the moon and her fluxes have upon female mood cycles (and those of Cancer men), the glossy women's magazines would not give this concept an iota of consideration. I am a FAR better writer today than I was when I wrote for top magazines 10 years ago. The difference is the scrutiny by editors and guess who one major source of revenue is? The pharmaceutical companies. They do NOT want any alternative to "just say yes to drugs," their own, in print!
It makes one feel like Fox Maulder... knowing the Truth is out there, but where to find it in the MSM! It's kind'a like the 21st century search for the Holy Grail!
I remember when the idea was thrown about some weeks ago we were talking about the NY Times or Wash Post, since those are so readily read by the mainstream.
I like the other ideas too.
Sioux Rose
SEVENTH: Last time I had any inkling of these things the cost ran about $25-50,000 for a full page. With revenue down, it could be less. What would we do? What is our foremost objective? Do we make a list of Obama's promises on one side of the page and list them in the "Hope" column, and then across the page DOCUMENT the actual policy (with its HR# or legal designation) and/or recent agenda so as to clearly demonstrate the inversion of the stated and HOPED for intention. We can call that side of the page the "Reality Check" column.
This full page could also invite groups of all stripes with at least some common objectives to come together for real change, targeting those into:
Labor Rights
Environmental Activitists
Those against nuclear Power
Those Against Coal
Those seeking alternative auto technology
Those seeking to advance or preserve Women's Rights
Those against torture
Those against War
Those in favor of Single payer (add a succinct definition to explain what it is, in contrast with what the right wing presents it as being)
Those who wish to get rid of "No Child Left Behind"
Those for the Separation of Church and State
Those who wish to hold government criminals accountable
Those interested in restoring the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Habeas Corpus
Those against the inane "Drug War"
"Illegal" aliens/immigrants who seek just representation
Gays who want to marry in states that won't allow it
Those who wish to rein in the banksters by quickly re-instating regulations!
OTHER....
Such an ad could call all the disenfranchised voices to "the table" and then relate all the areas where there has been a clear betrayal of the public's trust, and use this AD to foment an interest in an over-arching PEOPLE'S Party. It could ideally absorb the Greens, while attracting everyone else from the disaffected parties mentioned on my rudimentary list. Does that fit the purpose of this ad you envision, since I don't remember the context of the earlier thread that gave rise to your mentioning this proposal again today.
Actually SIOUX . . . it was something CEE MIRACLES wrote so elegantly in a post that prompted you to suggest he write something for a one page ad in a newspaper. Don't remember the original article or what CM wrote, but I DO remember that part of it. Many of us were quite enamored by what he wrote in his post, and you had suggested he write something for a one-page ad and we could all get behind it. Wish I could remember more.
Of course, it wouldn't have to be something he wrote, necessarily. It was just that memory that prompted me to mention the idea again. And I am liking the alternative ideas mentioned below, too. Let's keep brainstorming this throughout other articles and posts as we read them. I think it would be cool to get some billboard or bus-side ad. The price you mentioned is a BIT bigger than I was expecting, but if we get enough people behind it, our individual costs might not need to be that big. And this doesn't need to be done right now, even, With enough consistent brainstorming in the near future, we may well stumble on such an awesome idea that might just be cheap enough.
Peace.
Regardless of where and with whom, don't forget Margaret Mead's statement on the power of small groups being the only thing that really ever accomplished anything. That and Sioux Rose's adherence to human ingenuity in another post on this article can go far. I currently do house visits, entering the homes of Republicans, Democrats, Independents alike, the level at which I've been blessed to work with these people, actually our brothers and sisters, brings me time and again to the place Gandhi found where he could recognize and elicit basic human dignity regardless of culturing, a place of longing and yearning where we are indeed created equal - it's what brought me back to looking into Common Dreams and listening for a place to again be an Activist, this time not for anti-war, this time for and in the name of peace only - humanity is too blessed and too grand to be doing what we're doing to ourselves. Though the road to the greater peace will not be, and for fun's sake shouldn't be!, "cheap" - look at all the stored, and borrowed (yikes) wealth president Obama toys with; on this point I recommend the last chapter of Thom Hartmann's book The Prophet's Way (could be the Way of The Prophet), couple this test of faith that brought needed financing Thom's way(after the trial), with Sioux Rose's adherence to human ingenuity and Gandhi's human dignity and...well I'll take a sip of that concoction! Rebel Now calls for a return to anger and away from hope in this commentary. Well, I admit to anger, but I won't continually grind that form of axe. When I rise to anger I'll use it to hone my axe head with a sharper wit, and fashion it with a handle that softens hearts, especially my own - thanks much for sharing Hope and the Good Word.
Sioux Rose
PUCK: Fine post! Last night I was having one of those really contemplative sessions with my inner self wondering why I am living where I am, in the Bible belt among people who really do NOT see what's going on. Just like in the Bible's Book of Job, it's related that faith is easy when things are going well or smoothly. And quite a different matter when one feels or IS being tested. I think love is like a muscle, and it's easy to love those who are of like mind and spirit, and quite a bit more challenging to put aside judgment to come to a place of unconditional love of persons. That doesn't mean I could ever be nonchalant about BELIEFS which cause so much unapologetic suffering on such a grand scale, including to the beloved Earth Mother. I can see in my own trajectory that factors are forcing me to deal with a very different ilk of person, and while I may or may not move them to think differently by things I say (I am very bold and outspoken); I can see where this is also my exercise in expanding tolerance. Thus a form of stretching the "muscle" of love. (The heart is after all a muscle! Not that love truly comes from there, but there is a mystical link with it via the 4th chakra.)
My favorite book on the journey of the soul, "The Wheel of Rebirth" by H.L. Chaloner explains that human conjugal love is only a step in the expansion of the meaning and experience of love that at some point in each soul's evolution must encircle (or perhaps I should say embrace) the totality of mankind. When humans are trained by their societal "leaders" to behave badly, to lash wounds upon one another, that capacity to demonstrate the greater love becomes all the more difficult. This is why like others in this forum, I seek ways to begin to lay a new ideological foundation that tomorrow's children may know a world and experience far superior to that which has been the product of warring tribes for far too long.
There are times when I feel our CD forum is a replay of times in Ancient Greece, and we are a virtual senate convening. It's clear from the general level of discourse (minus the troll wrestling matches thrown in from time to time) that ours is a much more philosophical forum than what usually takes place among our mundane senators. One can never tell how far an idea can go, or its impact as it circles the world like the wings of that flapping butterfly.
Hey there Sometimes Thorny Rose...
You were definitely in the right place for me last night; your "virtual senate convening" came through very clear this morning during my "Ty Time": it reminded me, and I had a very clear sense (via J. Houston) of Teilhard De Chardin's "Noosphere" - the Earth's cosmic consciousness ring, that I believe forums like CD are "hard wiring".
Each paragraph was right on: I loved the love talk. My recent journey with the 4th is as a harmonizing chamber of the (don't hold me to these words of the moment) "Luciferic" 1-3 chakra's and "Ahrimanic" 5-7. Until recently I've been trying to harmonize the 4th with the outer world with no results, where this new construct has already shown promise...this also fits in with the "you gotta love yourself first" tenet. Good luck and fun with stretching your love muscle; in Feldenkrais terms we call it "lengthening", as stretching causes a reflexive contraction...but, ahh...onward...
Linking Job with "nonchalance" is also a Golden Apple for me...well, looking to the Middle East and the Gilded Communities and Ghettos of America, more likely a Golden
Ball at the bottom of a forest swamp. But still Golden as it reinforces a recent experience and challenge I've been given to maintain a strong leading mental focus, were in the past I've been successful with flowing in and out of the shadows...faith and more faith that I can handle the Golden Light with persistence and decency.
"...to lash wounds upon one another." And nonchalantly so, and with smiles! - ouch! - I'll have to check out Chaloner, for some help with understanding that all this is Karmic-ally perfectly so...for now smiles as the CD Noosphere Senate convenes, and the knowledge that within the flaming passions of battle the cooling breeze of flapping wings is now always mine to be had...thanks much for the stimulus of this fumbling around with hard wiring.
Lets ask Sioux Rose if she wants to be the treasurer or editor - I'll contribute to that cause.
Sioux Rose
R. GIRL: I'm not big on managing money, but I'd sure like to help edit. We can probably brainstorm the ad copy here... or we could do the typical letter to the editor, but I know I have NEVER had mine published in Gainesville or St Pete or where I currently reside. A lot of liberties are taken on the part of media in NOT exposing points of view that run counter to "the establishment" and its predilections.
Sioux Rose
Someone named Dead GI posted this yesterday and I copied it because I wanted to fact check it but this takes me a long time because I can't sit at the computer for long. some of this might make good ad copy. Letters to the editor are cheaper than advertizing and sometimes they bump you up to the "Opinion" section - especially if you are a published writer already.) Here's what was posted:
aHere's an excellent post from VegasArt as posted on MSNBC today and worth a read....
Here is why they will vote yes:
Of the 151 members whose investments are tied to the “defense” (war)
industry, as far as we know, not one of them offered to donate their bloodstained profits to the national treasury to offset the terrible debt they have imposed. Has one of them even offered to donate one cent of their war profits to lessen the debt that increases more than $1 million a minute?
When our boys and girls are wounded the government bills them to return their reenlistment bonus. They have to return any pay they received while they were hospitalized. They have to pay for their helmets and uniforms that are destroyed in the hell of war. But they keep on fighting for these politicians’ right to keep their war profits.
• Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) $3,001,006 to $5,015,001
• Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) $250,001 to $500,000
• Rep. Kenny Ewell Marchant (R-Tex.) $162,074 to $162,074
• Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney (D-N.Y.) $115,002 to $300,000
• Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen (R-N.J.) $115,002 to $300,000
• Rep. Shelley Berkley (D-Nev.) $100,870 to $100,870
• Rep. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.) $65,646 to $65,646
• Sen. Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.) $50,008 to $227,000
• Rep. Sam Farr (D-Calif.) $50,001 to $100,000
• Rep. Stephen Ira Cohen (D-Tenn.) $45,003 to $150,000
Who is really profiting from the war in Iraq?
Quote:
151 Congressmen Profit From War
Wednesday, April 30th, 2008
Who profits from the Iraq war? More than a quarter of senators and congressmen have invested at least $196 million of their own money in companies doing business with the Department of Defense (DoD) that profit from the death and destruction in Iraq.
According to the latest reports, 151 members of Congress invested close to a quarter-billion in companies that received defense contracts of at least $5 million in 2006. These companies got more than $275.6 billion from the government in 2006, or $755 million per day, according to FedSpending.org, a website of the watchdog group OMBWatch.
Best government money will buy....
Sioux Rose
R.GIRL: Wow! What a post! I had trouble reading down the list, the blood flowing out of it blurred the letters. Unbelievable. What a crass house of karmic cards has become the economy our "representatives" have built!
Thank you, Mr. Scahill, for another astute analysis.
Shame, indeed. What a pathetic show from the Democratic Party, It is becoming ever more clear that stopping this madness will not come from the people supposedly representing us. The mega corporations that make killings off of all that killing have too strong a death grip on the halls of power.
I think it is pretty clear that anyone who voted against the status quo (i.e., third party or independent runs) knew this going in. We knew those Democrats who used Bush's war to get elected would sing an entirely different tune once they got the power of their office. Like I've said many times, no matter what a candidate tells you prior to the election, expect something else once he or she gets elected.
Obama and his ilk are not changing the system as they promised. The system has changed them. In order to keep power, they need to do exactly what Pelosi tells them to do. What don't you understand about politics? The more things change, the more they stay the same.
When the rest of the sheeple finally come to realize this, then maybe we can go forward with the important work of building an alternative to the status quo. Work for Instant Runoff Voting, and building third parties.
"Work for Instant Runoff Voting, and building third parties."
And for educating as many people as you possibly can. Spread the word.
Brothers and Sisters in the Struggle,
It's a rigged game. When the Democrats and Republicans can block who can be in the national debates, then we no longer live in a democracy. Ralph and Cynthia, who had ballot access, could not debate McCaine or Obama. Is this not taxation without representation? The one party system gives you the illusion of democracy, and I hope America is finally waking up to this.
Yes yes and yes!
Add the free-for all, largely unregulated, big-money, corporate dictated election campaigns and we see another corrupt element of the system. If it takes 100s of millions to run a campaign and there are few limits, it is basically like buying your Senate seat, or buying the Presidency. Plutocracy for the highest bidder. While no political system is perfect or even close, but Democracy is only a cheap charade here.
Just one thing to remember... if a single 3rd party is against reaching out to other parties and coalitions for political strength to end war, they will not help.
The hardest thing to remember is what it takes to win peace, truth and justice... a workable plan of action.
Oregoncharles
What it takes to win peace and justice is to stop supporting those who work against peace and justice - the great majority of Democrats, actually. Take a look at the supplemental, most voted for it. They voted to continue these brutal wars that incinerate innocent people, many of whom are children. Entire countries are being destroyed, all for empire, to make a few wealthy people more powerful. If they can support an agenda like this, what makes you think they'll form some kind of alliance with peaceniks like yourself? What they really want to do is scam you. Haven't you noticed?