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Neocons in Waiting: Iran, Obama, and the Next Asian Land War
An Israeli Attack on Iran would reduce Barack Obama to a One-Term President
What should a poor warmongering Neoconservative do? This political grouping includes WASPS such as former CIA director James Woolsey and former UN ambassor John Bolton, but at its core is politically active and extremely wealthy Jewish former Democrats who broke with their party in the 1980s to become war hawks in Republican administrations, and most of whom are rooted in Rightwing Zionism as exemplified in the thought of prominent fascist theorist Vladimir Jabotinsky. (They are almost mirror images of the general American Jewish community, 79 percent of which voted for Barack Obama, which is skittish about foreign wars and liberal on social issues). The Neoconservative faction is in the political wilderness in the United States. Eager to play the role in Iran that the enormous floods have played in Pakistan, of paralyzing and destroying much of a thriving country, eager to reduce the shining city of Isfahan to rubble and displace its population into massive tent cities, they find their path blocked at every turn.
Always much happier when the militant and aggressive Likud Party is in power in Israel, they are nevertheless impatient with what they see as the timidity of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, compared to the reckless warmongering of the previous Kadima Party and its Labor ally (who managed to set back the Lebanese economy a decade in 2006 and to reduce the large penal camp of Gaza to further misery and rubble).
Despite being willing to stop in at an occasional cocktail party, President Obama could not care less what the Neoconservatives say, want or do. Few have been appointed from their ranks to high and influential positions in the Obama administration, in contrast to W.'s, where they held the 8 key positions that allowed them to help push the US into a decade of rampaging wars. The American public, having been tricked by their fallacious arguments and cynical propaganda into the Iraq War, does not want to hear from them. They no longer get much television time. Their main project of today, an aggressive war on Iran, is a non-starter with the current White House, its generals, intelligence officials, and most importantly with a public already unemployed, beggared and indebted to the tune of $13 trillion, in part because of the Neocons earlier mad adventures- a public that has also lost over 4000 dead and tens of thousands wounded and permanently disabled warriors over a pack of Neocon lies.
But being a Neocon means never having to say you are sorry, or that you were wrong, and it means never giving up on the dressing up of illegal and aggressive wars as Necessary and Right and Bright Shining Cities on a Hill that will Make the World Safe for "Democracy" and more importantly for Apartheid Israel.
Thus, in 1998 at the height of their impotence, the Neocons got up a hawkish letter with the support of the Republicans in Congress, insisting that President Clinton go to war against Iraq. It was absurd and monstrous. Iraq had been reduced to a poor weak fourth-rate power, its economy devastated, its children dying in droves, by US and UN sanctions pushed by the Neocons and their allies. Only five years later, under a different administration, they got their wish.
The Neocons' life experience, then, is that aggressive warfare is never really off the table. Even a liberal internationalist like Obama can be pressured, and if he will not yield, be weakened and wounded and the way paved for a leader more pliable to their plans. A war that they pine for the way a teenager pines for a first love, a mass grave they dream of the way a retiree dreams of a Hawaiian resort, an orgy of destruction visited on ancient wonders that they dream of the way a world-class architect dreams of constructing a new city- all these things are really at most just 5 years away if the right political moves are made.
They have more assets than is visible on the surface. They have perhaps half of America's 400 billionaires on their side. They have the enormous military-industrial complex on their side. They have the Yahoo complex of besieged lower middle class White America on their side. They have the Israel lobbies on their side. They have important segments of the Oil and Gas lobbies on their side. They have the whole American tradition of permanent war on their side. They should not be underestimated.
It is not so hard to get up a war. You position the war as inevitable. As Right. As Necessary. You reimagine the poor weak ramshackle enemy as a science fictional superpower, months away from possession of a Neutron Bomb that could Destroy the Universe. It has to be done. We are in danger.
Although not exactly himself a Neocon (he says he is for a two-state solution and says he is on the fence about an Iran war), Cpl. Jeffrey Goldberg of the Israeli army, where he was a prison camp guard during the first Intifada or Palestinian uprising, and who masquerades as a journalist over at the Atlantic, has fired a shot in the building campaign for destroying Iran. This war propagandist deliberately spread the bald-faced lie that Saddam had close ties to al-Qaeda, and goes on insisting that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction capabilities in the face of mountains of evidence to the contrary. He is either dishonest or so blindered by ideology that it comes to the same thing. Goldberg says he is "ambivalent" about an "American" attack on Iran in "2010." But these are weasel words. What would be different in 2011? In fact, this way of speaking puts a time limit on "ambivalence," after which conviction presumably kicks in. His ambivalence, he says, extends to whether Israel should attack Iran unilaterally, though he is convinced by his ‘interviewing' that it likely will. It reminds me of all the caveats and ambivalences in Ken Pollack's book ‘Gathering Storm,' which was used by warmongers nevertheless to help get up the Iraq War.
Goldberg knows that Obama is not actually going to war against Iran. Despite what he says, Bibi Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel, is for all his bluster far too personally indecisive to take such a major step (and certainly not without an American green light; Bibi thinks Clinton had him undermined and moved out of office for obstructing the Oslo accords, and does not want to risk the same fate for causing trouble for Obama in Iraq and Afghanistan). How Goldberg could miss this truism in Israeli politics is beyond me.
Goldberg is trying to make an Iran war seem highly likely if not inevitable, if not now then in the near future (say, within 5 years?).
But contrary to Goldberg's conclusions, Gareth Porter finds that high Israeli intelligence and military figures entertain the severest doubts about a war on Iran. Could Goldberg really not find these voices that Porter dug up so effortlessly?
The Iran war hawks also almost certainly underestimate Iran's conventional weapons capability of foiling any Israeli air strike.
There is no room for ‘ambivalence' here, especially of the Pollack sort that actually leads straight to war. The stupidity of an air raid on Iran is easy for the clear-eyed to see. There is no evidence Iran has a nuclear weapons program as opposed to a civilian nuclear energy program. The centrifuge technology being used can be dispersed and an air strike is likely to be only a minor setback in the program. And, Iran is a major country of 70 million with extensive petroleum and gas resources. It has means of replying to any attack that can be subtle and effective. Mahan Abedin showed here recently how there can be no ‘limited war' against Iran.
Obama's plans for a decisive and timely withdrawal from Iraq would be completely ruined by an attack on Iran, which would reactivate the Shiite militias at a time when the US military is weak and open to attack. Obama would not have that achievement to run on in 2012. The Iranians can behind the scenes be major spoilers for the Afghanistan War, which already is not going well for Obama.
A Netanyahu attack on Iran would reduce Barack Obama to a one-term president, which may be what Goldberg and his fellow conspirators are really aiming for. That success would after all allow them to keep to the 5-year timetable for another Asian land war.




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Show AllApart from Jabotinsky, the ideological grandfather of the Likud party, Leo Strauss the philosophical guru of the Neoconservatives was also a friend of the Nazis despite acknowledging their anti-Semitism. In a letter to another exiled Jewish philosoper Karl Löwith written in 1933, a few months after Hitler had assumed power in Germany, he managed to attack the Nazis from the right(!) writing that the victory of an antisemitic fascism in Germany will not motivate him to abandon "the Principles of the Right," which are, he declared "fascist, authoritarian, imperial." Then he praised the persistence of the Roman imperial "spirit" in the world—Mussolini.
http://balkin.blogspot.com/2006/07/letter_16.html
As for Jabotinsky, here's Mussolini's fraternal advice—who got the Israeli Navy underway on a Fascist Naval base—to his ideological cousins in the Zionist movement:
Mussolini had favored Zionism for many years...In November 1934, Mussolini allowed the Betar to set up a squadron at the maritime academy at Civitavecchia run by the Blackshirts militia...[In 1935] Mussolini told David Prato, later to become chief rabbi of Rome: "For Zionism to succeed you need to have a Jewish state, with a Jewish flag and a Jewish language. The person who really understands that is your fascist, Jabotinsky." Wolfgang von Weisl, the financial director of Jabotinsky's party, had no hesitation to tell a diplomatic newspaper in Bucharest that "although opinions among the Revisionists varied, in general they sympathized with fascism," and that he was himself "personally a supporter of fascism, and [that] he rejoiced at the victory of Fascist Italy in Abyssinia as a triumph of the White races against the Black."
http://cgi.stanford.edu/group/wais/cgi-bin/?tag=israelpalestine-jabotinsky-and-fascism
Even well after the Civil Rights era was over, Israel and Apartheid South Africa were still celebrating their struggle against a "predominantly hostile world inhabited by dark peoples."
http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2006/04/21/militant-islam-and-the-extreme-right
It's no secret that Israel was bult on racism--the slaughter of entire Arab villages to make way for white European Jews. Israelis see Palestinians as less than human and have no shame about how they treat them. The writings of Israel's founders are full of racist anti-Arab statements and the need to, basically, ethnically cleanse Israel of Arabs. So these racists are the people the US Congress is in bed with and Obama is coddling, while their paranoia and aggression threaten to destroy the Middle East.
Compared to any other group who has suffered historically--the Native Americans, for instance, have suffered far more atrocities than the Jews--Israelis are dishonest in their use of history to legitimate their current land theft and war crimes. Their endless Occupation is simply a means to steal Palestinian land. They take our tax money, spit in our face, and threaten to manipulate our country into yet another Mideast war.
Take a good look at your "progressive" congressperson. Chances are he/she is pro-Israeli, and only progressive on domestic issues. Even the progressive Paul Wellstone commented that he's a Jew first. We simply cannot elect any more pro-Israelis to Congress, no matter how progressive they are on domestic issues. And that means out with Alan Grayson and Al Franken. If they can't connect the dots between a pro-Israeli foreign policy, endless anti-Muslim wars, and a financially bankrupt domestic situation--then kick them out!
Anyone who says he/she is a..........Fill in the blank first. Before they are a human being, is questionable to me.
That applies to all the christian first people as well as woman first, man first, american first, Muslim first, and on and on......I don't care what their job title is. I would like to see the Wellstone quote. Can you please site it? I cannot find it anywhere and to be honest, i can't imagine what would have prompted it.
good point. there are few in congress who openly support palestinian rights, still fewer who would have the gumption to say anything about israeli war crimes.
the fact is that even southern americans would not elect white politicians who would slur blacks with the same terms that israeli prime ministers from golda girl on have used to slur the palestinians.
An important comment, and given the arrival of the spawn of 'roosting chickens' and the subsequent evidentiary bloodbath, all but unassailable.
I see a big time obama supporter/apologist here.
Whatever else may be the case, i sense that he is part of the O-team.
It seems that the only differentiation he can make between obama and a neocon, is in name only.
My personal thoughts.
Agreed! Many Common Dreamers are way beyond this. The realization of the need to dismantle every component of the empire is paramount!
Ah, and many CDers live in the "way beyond."
And there are still a few CDers who live in denial - blinded by their allegiance to their team. They are able to persuade themselves that their team is the stronger, better team, and will stick to their beliefs even when the facts are overwhelmingly against them.
Thanks for the compliment, Greg R August.
You call it the "way beyond," I call it an "expanded vision."
Let me help you understand something: Idealistic vision informs actions and can change the course of history. Complacency never does anything but reinforce the status quo. History has taught us that acting on our idealistic vision is the only way to change the world for the better. Susan B. Anthony, Jesus, Joe Hill, MLK, Gandhi - just a few out of thousands of examples of people who dug in their heels and refused to be marginalized.
While some prefer to bend over to power, others refuse to do so. It's a personality thing. As a young college student, I was part of an experiment designed to measure my "deference quotient." As it turns out, I happen to have a low tolerance for abusive power. I've come to realize that the more you make excuses for abuse, the worse it gets. That's why the Democrats are just as corrupt as the Republicans. Too many refuse to dig in their heels and say "enough!"
Maybe it's just that you have a high tolerance for abuse, in which case I could say you are in the "way nowhere!"
First, your welcome. Second, I liked your comment as it is full of truth. To me, the tricky part is seeing things slowly change for the better, while knowing it should be changing so much faster. Sometimes it is very difficult to see those changes for the better, you almost need an f'n microscope.
That's what I see too, readytotransform.
I don't dispute Cole's characterization of "legacy" warmongering Neoconservatives continuing to scheme mischeviously, and promoting a "let's you and him fight!" agenda vis-à-vis Israel and Iran.
But Cole's Straw Obama is suspiciously sanitized.
Even if it's correct to note that the legacy neocons' "... main project of today, an aggressive war on Iran, is a non-starter with the current White House, its generals, intelligence officials...", that's only because Team Obama, the generals, and the state security apparatus have their OWN aggressive wars to prosecute.
Also, Cole apparently swallows and spits out whole dubious notions such as "Obama's plans for a decisive and timely withdrawal" without irony.
As sympathetic as I am to any circumstance that might reduce Barack Obama to a one-term president, I'm not persuaded by Cole's glimpse through rose-colored glasses, darkly.
PS: Why did you add "My personal thoughts"? Who else's WOULD they be? ;)
I thought that as well, about writing "My own personal thoughts". I think i am using it as a disclaimer. As if to say that i am not saying this is fact. I am just saying.
Oh, that was an old Paul Reiser bit. "I'm not saying...I'm just saying". ;-)
Was the obama being a one termer a CD Headline or in the original piece? That in itself was worth a response. As if he isn't a one termer already.
peace.
rita
Damn! Another informed source who thinks there's a difference between Obama and a future neocon wacko republican president. Sorry, but personally I simply have to sneer at those who think there is NO difference between Obama and another future war starter.
War starters be damned, it's the war enders that are important.
One of the best come backs I've seen in a long time! Keep it up.
yeah, and Cole is the same guy who initially supported GW's invasion of Iraq.
Is that really true? I only remember him as a long time critic of the war.
No, he was an initial supporter. Ask him. He'll tell you, "oh yeah, but that was oh so 2003!" Go to his website, find his contact info. I did it.
Well, I wandered around his website, looked at some of his 2002-3 comments, saw nothing advocating war. I'm sure I could of missed it, but...
I do wish these supposed learned commentators would include in their analyses the reasons for this war hunger. It's not just bad people being boogeymen.
The Grand Chessboard (1997) by Zbig lays it out. Season with PNAC's manifesto and there it all is. Simple. Right out of a cheesy James Bond novel. These pathetic losers want to rule the world and its resources. Period.
It's megalomania Juan. You should say that.
The degree of magalomania is the important item. Do we want a magalomania that is at least on the borderline of sanity or do we want to step off the cliff?
Really, Greg R August, are you writing these things with a straight face?
Remember something: We've been supporting Democrats for a long time, based on your strategy of supporting the "lesser of two evils." As a result, where is the Democratic Party today? Answer: Far to the right of Richard Nixon. There's no significant difference between Democrats and the Republican Party - same politicians after the same money from the same corporations. Voting for war mongers and neo-cons only encourages them.
Some losing strategy you adhere to! What do you have, a death wish for progressives?
I'd appreciate it if you called me Greg R instead of Greg R August. I hope progressives will enjoy small victories and not become disenchanted by a lack of massive success. I've been around a long time. I'm almost 62 ( my wife just informed me of that the other day- I thought I was a year younger- how time flies).
"I hope progressives will enjoy small victories and not become disenchanted..."
–(Greg R. August)
–When that unlikely event ever happens I'm sure the progressives will be the first to let you know, if they haven't died from the shock of it all.
After almost 62 years one would hope to be more cognizant, instead of pissing on one's hind leg in public, as you clearly have done.
Harvard has prepared itself for Israel's upcoming attack on Iran.
In another blow to Israeli shares, the Harvard Management Company notified the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) on Friday that it had sold all its holdings in Israeli companies during the second quarter of 2010. No reason for the sale was mentioned. The Harvard Management Company manages Harvard University's endowment.
You are probably right.
your source, please. thanks.
Frankly, this does not make sense. Where did you read this?
If by "Neocons" you mean primarily AIPAC.
De-Countrify Israel Now and force Zionists to pay Reparations.
Perhaps the only thing delaying an attack on Iran is a lack of money to pay for the madness.
It's reasonable to assume that China may very likely choose not to finance the destruction of one of their primary sources of energy and thus refuse to continue purchasing U.S. Treasuries. Rates would instantly shoot to the moon crushing the entire U.S. economy and grinding the empire to a halt in the blink of an eye.
However, once the Social Security vault is successfully cracked by Obama's stealth group of bank robbers (otherwise known as his deficit reduction commission) the necessary funds will be on hand to enable the inevitable.
If my thinking is accurate the timing of the attack should coincide perfectly with grandma and grandpa eating cat food on the curb.
"Perhaps the only thing delaying an attack on Iran is a lack of money to pay for the madness"
–(Cygnus X1)
–This is certainly probably truer than most, if not all, of Juan Cole's specious and disingenuous pro Democratic party palaver.
Cole may not be a classic Neo-con, but his 'Neo Neo' liberalism is indicative of just how close these two ideological persuasions really here. This piece of drivel gives the whole charade away:
"Obama's plans for a decisive and timely withdrawal from Iraq..."
–(Juan Cole)
Huh? Has the base building in Iraq suddenly gone into reverse, being 'scaled back' like the Bagram base in Afghanistan? Please!
Here, insult to injury would be too kind. It is nothing short of a disgrace to say, much less actually believe this highly dubious, patently false assertion without hoping to elicit laughter.
It is all the more disturbing as Cole's credentials are, for the most part, all but unassailable in the progressive community. Here he is reduced to little more than a functionary of propaganda, attempting to create distinctions, when in truth, there are none.
He should no longer be taken seriously, as these kinds of 'lapses' tend to have long afterlives.
Prof Cole writes: "Few have been appointed from their ranks to high and influential positions in the Obama administration, in contrast to W.'s, where they held the 8 key positions that allowed them to help push the US into a decade of rampaging wars."
All I can say is WTF! Cole obviously has never heard of Rahm Emmanuel and "I'm a Zionist" Biden.
Now that you point that out, it is obviously true, yes. So, that now casts some doubt on the remainder of the article. But if W had many, and O has two, then it could be said O has few. It is still too many.
When someone writes "even a liberal internationalist like Obama can be pressured", they have lost credibility. President Obama a "liberal"? Juan Cole hasn't been paying attention.
Make no mistake: a REAL war is going on right now, and it is between the fascists, called neo-conservatives in the United States, and those who want a more equitable sustainable world. It is time to give no quarter to the ideals of fascism and those who propound them. These people must be stopped, and shut down for good. It is time to rid the human species of this sickness. We do not have much time. The ecosystem that sustains us is unraveling. There is no room for selfishness. We share this planet with other species that have just as much right to exist as we do. When we cause extinctions, we are murdering life forms, some of which have been around for millions of years more than we have. Personally, I don't give a whit for the human race if it cannot find a way to live on this planet without ravaging it. Better it destroy itself before it causes more damage. There are a few tribes left, the rest of us are garbage.
I'm getting old, and am going to continue enjoying life as long as possible. I got to participate in the greatest outpouring of life and joy during the 60s that the world has seen for a long time. But I pity the poor children (those 50 and under).
George is correct that the real war is going on right now between the fascists and those who want to live in peace and share the earth with all the people and all the species of life that live here.
The fascists are winning. I too pity the poor children (those 50 and under) but maintain some hope that they will rise up.
"The Neoconservative faction is in the political wilderness in the United States."
I disagree. They're as powerful as they've ever been. And in the realm of both foreign and domestic policy, Obama is a Neon Neocon.
"A Netanyahu attack on Iran would reduce Barack Obama to a one-term president, which may be what Goldberg and his fellow conspirators are really aiming for."
The economy all by itself will take care of Obama in 2012.
Juan Cole was an initial supporter of the US invasion of Iraq. Need I say more?
I haven't taken anything he says seriously since then.
We're getting a lot of pro-Democratic Party pieces on CD lately. Oh, yeah, elections coming up. Thanks to the intelligent readers here who can still call a spade a spade.
Here's the new Democratic Party pledge:
I promise to always vote for a Democrat no matter what they do to people. They could eat Palestinian babies for breakfast and I would send them money to do it. I will "knock on doors" for them so that they can further ignore global warming, vote to have Middle Eastern children blown up by bombs, send more jobs overseas. I will always eschew voting for an honest, credible, third party progressive, thus insuring that any party with progressive values will never, ever become "viable." I will marginalize and malign all progressive third party candidates and the voters who support them. When leaders of the Democratic Party speak of progressives in derogatory terms, I will bend over a little further so that they can more easily f--- me!
This POS article lost me when he called the military who are either mislead or just plain murders 'warrioys'. They aren't warriors. They are killer murdering innocent people. Or should I say liberating them from their loved ones or lives? Sorry, read that in another post. Liked it.
Let them go to war with Iran. China and Russia might have something to say about that. I would like an answer to why the US is so tied to Ireal? They are just as murderous of us. Taking over Gaza for what reason? They bulldozed a centuries old cemetaey to make room for more apartments. They didn't like that treatment in the 40's. The US and Isreal are the saUme.
War IS terrorism with a big budget...it is SO painfully simple; fascist amerika and its terrorist military, and its mass murderer "leaders" are carrying out genocide against humanity in Iraq, Afghanistan , and Pakistan, and now threaten Iran with the same terrorist acts ! The deluded masses, en amerika; they would rather go shopping !
Paz, por La Lucha y La Gente
tioche, Mexico
Ooooooh, I am going to use that,"War is terrorism with a big budget." It will make a nice follow-up to people noticing an heirloom from Mom when I wear it: her "war is not healthy for children and other living things" pendant.
Juan Cole was a supporter of the US invasion of Iraq and in this piece he defines 'O bomb em all' as a 'liberal internationalist' (what ever that is). Juan says the danger of war is not a threat. He admits there is backing for it..from the 400 billionaires (these are the guys that own our government), the Military Industrial Complex would enthusiastically support an attack on Iran (think of the great profits!!) and the yahoo lower class white people want us to put down the darker skinned people of the world to maintain the proper respect for nice white folks. Then the Isreali lobby (that set our foreign policy) would support an attack on Iran. It would be soooooooo easy. Just a little PR and 'mericans would be ready to stop "another Hitler---or someone even WORSE than Hitler."
Seems like an attack on Iran is a sure thing. Get out and wave the red white and blue. We gonna kick some ass. (Don't think about our loss in Iraq and Afghanistan---that is old news.)
I'm worried that the United States will join our best ally (Israel) and attack Iran.
The problems my family shares with millions of other working class people are not a concern to the forces mentioned above. My family has mortgage problems and two generations out of work. Fortunately I still have my pension---but Obama's austerity Committee might take care of that.
I'm wondering if the upcoming peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians isn't simply cover for an Israeli strike against Iran. After all, it's Netanyahu we're talking about, the scion of Ben Zion Netanyahu, a man who was almost as big a racist as Jabotinsky.
Oh, and BTW, Israel is NOT an ally. An alliance between Israel and the United States is a legal impossibility without Israel first defining her borders, something she steadfastly refuses to do. (Why is that, I wonder?) Whenever anyone calls Israel an ally, we need to correct them that she is NOT.
http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2010/05/26/the-strategic-ally-myth/
Considering the real threats to the U.S.A., a reasonable person might conclude that it is time to start eliminating terrorists such as Goldberg.
Do, please, go to Cole's site and post your comments there, too.
Israel would get little but problems for attacking Iran without Washington.
They don't have the personnel for any kind of occupation, so that's out.
There's no evidence that Iran is actually developing WMD's. Mossad surely knows that too, so that's not a motive.
Even if they had some reason to like having everyone in arms against them, they could more easily continue to do that just by invading direct neighbors.
No. The point is to get the US to do this, draw fire from Israel, occupy Iranian arms and wealth elsewhere, and extend its commitments in the area even farther.
To do the attack themselves in order to get a more warlike administration in the White House makes little sense from an Israeli POV. 0bama is following the Neocon line pretty closely through the Middle East and out into Pakistan. There really is not very much to gain or lose by getting a Republican into office. The US has not avoided a direct attack on Iran because they're way overextended and the government's credibility with the populace is rapidly corroding.
To launch the attack themselves, with all the possibilities of reprisal, makes little sense from Israel's standpoint. If one assumes that the American administration disapproves, the risk for that runs even higher. Israel could increase its exposure and reduce its funding at the same time.
Not likely.
0bama could reduce 0bama to a one-term president. Aside from the sweettalk, he's done about everything one man could to alienate anyone with progressive leanings and cripple any claim the Dems had on progressive politics at a national level.