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My 1933 Nightmare
The events of recent decades have been ominous.
The events of recent weeks more so.
It's not so much, I guess, the visage of obese, over-fifty, white men angrily wrecking even the tattered remnants of the democratic process in this country that is most disturbing. We've seen that before.
I think it's the willful ignorance translated into incoherent, and in fact ironically self-defeating, rage that I find most discouraging. Can we really live in a country populated by so many fools, people who can so readily, proudly and belligerently be made into tools of their own destruction? Can the greatest political, economic, cultural and military power on the world's stage possibly be so incredibly backward at its core?
Consider this passage: "The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil."
These words were written by a person who might well now be vice-president of the United States, had the economic crash of our time come a few months later. And who, had that in fact transpired, and had one old man named McCain sometime later then met his actuarially not-improbable death, could have become the American president and leader of the free world.
So, okay, maybe that horror scenario is not so novel. After all, Nixon was in the White House for six years. And what was George W. Bush, really, other than Sarah Palin in trousers?
But what seems to me new about this moment is the political road rage, the thuggishness of masses of Americans who not only are venting about insane nonsense, not only are undermining their own interests acting as marionettes of laughing corporate predators, and not only are taking down democracy around themselves in order to do so, but are in fact also destroying the entire Enlightenment project of rationality-based management of public affairs as well. The single most frightening characteristic of this movement, to my mind, is that fact that no amount of evidence or logic could persuade these folks to abandon the lies they've attached themselves to, like a pit bull clamped to the leg of some poor SOB's pants.
What does it take to get someone to the point that they believe that the US Congress is passing a healthcare reform bill that will allow the government to exterminate seniors? What does it take for them to impute that motive to a president from the feeble Democratic Party? And, at that, one of the most Milquetoastian creatures to hit Washington since Hubert Humphrey ran for president acting like he was a guy named Hubert Humphrey? From Minnesota, no less.
What do you have to do to humans to get them so stupefied that they believe Obama's Hawaiian birth was some sort of conspiracy, replete with fake 1961 newspaper announcements? What sort of powerful drugs does one have to be on to make the argument that this rather considerably conservative president is a socialist? And then to call him a fascist in your next breath, blissfully unaware that the chasm separating the two ideologies not only makes them wholly different, but, indeed, oppositional. (You know, like in World War II. Maybe they've even heard of that.)
In fact, this is not a matter of stupidity, though there's loads of that to go around. But I bet that when it comes to finding arcane deductions to insert into their tax forms, these folks are actually quite clever. I bet a lot of them could reel off sports statistics or bible verses that would put your head in a fog. No, it's not stupidity. Something else is going on here.
It's certainly not a matter of factuality, either. It's astonishing to imagine that anyone might perceive the hopelessly flimsy Obama administration – even if it wasn't directly following the folks who brought you the Dick Cheney vision of executive power – as some sort of dictatorial Bonapartist project. Are we even talking about the same human being here? Do they really mean the Obama who keeps trying to be bipartisan while Republicans trash him viciously at every juncture (including even members of Congress questioning the legitimacy of his American birth)? Do they really mean the guy who continually defers to Congress to shape the major legislative initiatives he claims to be in favor of? Are talking about the dude who lets a handful of Blue Dog Democrats roll him at every turn? This, even after eight years of Bush, we're supposed to believe is some sort of totalitarian imperial president hell-bent on bringing fascism to America???
No, this isn't about lack of intellect or the remotest correspondence to reality. It seems pretty clear to me that this is almost entirely about fear. This is the empire crashing, and the former master class within it crashing as well. Both are falling to ordinariness and worse. They always were ordinary, of course, and always tools for exploitation by economic predators, but at least back in the day it wasn't such a struggle to be middle class. And, most importantly, they could always feel good by telling each other that at least they were better than the hated bitches, darkies and fags. Oh, and Arabs. Beating them up, literally and figuratively, was (and remains) a good way to remind yourself of that superiority.
But now even that small bit of compensation is gone. Your country can't win a war against a bunch of third world ragheads. Your boss is cutting your salary again. The womenfolk have their own source of income now, and no longer have to put up with your blundering sexual advances to keep a roof over their heads. Perverts are marrying each other left and right. And now – WTF? – there's some Harvard-educated spade in the White House, along with, even worse, his uppity-looking Harvard-educated all-superior-like even spadier woman.
Of course, this has been going on since the 1970s, as America's post-war hegemony began to erode internationally, and within the country white males were being challenged for their domestic dominance as well. These "Reagan Democrats" – i.e., consummately selfish pricks who were happy to take government largesse when it was helping to bring them into the middle class, but then immediately pulled the ladder up behind themselves afterwards, demanding tax cuts – began to lash out politically, responding to any line of crap that would harmonize with their embarrassing victimization trope by promising a feel-good response offering the muscular bludgeoning of women and dark people, both at home and abroad. In reality, of course, they were voting for a political movement that was talking tough-guy nationalism and scapegoating gays and other out-groups, but purely as a mask for further savaging the prosperity of these very idiot voters supporting their own undoing. In exchange for some cheap rhetoric and the occasional third-world war, they lost their unions, they lost their good jobs to cheap overseas (and, of course, violently non-organized) labor, they lost government benefits like inexpensive higher education, and they lost a society where the gap between the middle class and economic elites wasn't on the order of a standard-issue banana republic.
So what's different today? I think there are big differences – at least of degree – on six fronts.
First, there is a marriage of convenience today between the economic oligarchy and regressive politicians which makes the era of Dwight Eisenhower look like Sweden by comparison. I would say the single most fundamental fact of American politics in our time is that economic elites have walked away from the long-standing grand bargain of the 1930s through the 1970s. They are, simply put, no longer satisfied to be ridiculously wealthy, and now demand to be obscenely so. Instead of looking at the middle class as a source of national pride, it is for them an irritant to see even that small pittance of money in other people's hands. And, thus, they are trying (and succeeding) at reversing the basic deal that brought so much prosperity to so many American families in the mid-twentieth century, seeking a return to the good old days of Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Today's Republican Party has become simply an instrument of that process – all the rest is window-dressing for marketing purposes. Perhaps the best exemplar of this imperative was the (so far) unsuccessful play at privatizing Social Security. Wall Street looks at that sitting mountain range of money – within view, but just beyond reach – in sheer ball-busting frustration. It is one of the few government activities (as opposed to healthcare, military hardware, prisons, etc. etc.) that the overclass hasn't yet been able to profitize. Why should seniors have that money, they growl over brandy and cigars, when billionaires could instead? In short, the whole purpose of the political right has shifted dramatically in the past three decades. Now, it's entirely about the money.
Second, the level of deceit has grown exponentially. Americans are now being told lies of astonishing proportions, as both the ‘birther' and ‘deather' movements of recent weeks make plain. Before those it was Obama the socialist, Obama the fascist, Obama the sell-out apologist for America, Obama the secret Muslim, Obama the underminer of national security, Obama the pal of terrorists, and so on, and so on. It's to the point now that I feel sorry for satirists (including me). What can you possibly make up to top these amazing idiocies? Obama the Martian imposter of a homo sapien? Obama the JFK assassin? Obama the twentieth 9/11 hijacker? (Who secretly parachuted out at the last moment, and was picked up in the Hudson by a nuclear-powered speedboat driven by Saddam, and then transferred onto a black helicopter that landed minutes later on the roof of the UN!)
Third, the sophistication of presentation has grown dramatically. The right has really learned how to market its nonsense in a barrage that only enhances credibility from repetition. You get it on the radio, on TV, from politicians, at church, on your computer and cell phone, in your mailbox and at the school board meeting. This is a full-court press by clever people who know how to market soap flakes and the human kind as well. There are many examples of this, but one of the most clever has been the defining of wholly corporate center-right political figures like Bill Clinton or Barack Obama as extreme leftists, and the defining of the mainstream media as hopelessly biased toward liberalism. Perhaps as much as any other factors, these moves have employed framing and intimidation to effectively eliminate any real progressive ideas from the national political discourse. Bravo, boys. If it all wasn't so sickeningly pernicious, I'd have to give them a standing ovation for cleverness and, sadly, success.
Fourth, the level of credulity is breathtaking. In the past, you could understand why a few crackers in ‘Bama, third-grade education and all, could be seduced into blamin' the niggrahs for their lousy low-rent lives and joining up with the KKK. But look at the audiences today for Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and the rest of the scary monsters all over television and radio. These are giant crowds of tens of millions, especially collectively counted, and I don't think these people are watching and listening just to laugh at the bozos on the air.
Speaking of whom, what in the world are these freaks doing on the air? What in the world happened to this country such that, fifth, all this massive deceit has gone mainstream in the media and the Republi-con Party? It's astonishing today, from the perspective of prior decades, what comes out of the mouths even of leadership figures in one of America's two major political parties, and what goes unchallenged as conventional wisdom. There have always been regressive predators about in American politics, to be sure. But in years past they would have been identified as such and marginalized accordingly. Today, they are more likely to become president or Speaker of the House, and a slavishly obedient media dares not correct even the most obscene lies having the most dangerous consequences (can you say "Iraq"?).
Finally, unlike prior decades, the progressive counter-narrative has all but vanished from the mainstream. The Democratic Party is nothing more than the sorta not-Republican Party, and stands for nothing other than a quieter and more slowly-unfolding version of the GOP's crimes. Nobody ever votes Democratic anymore. They vote against the Republicans when they rise to their very most noxious worst behavior. We have a president who is supposed to be a radical leftist, and says almost nothing to combat the fascist tide of thuggery now threatening the country. Instead, he continues to seek approval from Republicans who never give it to him, game him at every turn, and repay his conciliatory efforts by asking for investigations into his birth certificate. Senator Chris Dodd responded to last week's Reichstag-burning events with this helpful bromide: "It's a challenge, no question about it, and you've got to get out there and make the case. This is not the time for the faint-hearted." After which he continued to lead the very faintest-of-heart in their deafening silence. Even supposedly liberal activist groups don't demand very much anymore, other than the protection of the status quo. For example, there is pretty much no serious player in or out of government right now talking about a single-payer system at this once-per-century occasion of momentous potential change in the American healthcare system.
The upshot of all this is a predatory-when-not-defunct political system going so far off the rails that it is now migrating from insanity to violent insanity. Just ask your (former?) local abortion provider. Just ask your congressional representative, if you can penetrate the police escort now necessary to keep these people from becoming the victims of mob rule.
This should not be taken lightly. There is huge anger out there, being stoked incessantly by those who profit from it, in one way or another. Most frightening of all, it is, as far as I can see, completely impervious to rational discourse. Suppose you could put a mountain of indisputable evidence in front of the eyes of those who believe Obama is seeking to murder seniors. Does anyone think any of these folks could actually be persuaded to abandon that shockingly absurd fallacy?
And this is, at the end of the day, the scariest aspect of all concerning the current political moment. America now possesses a massive cohort of people who have simply transcended rational discourse – the sine qua non of democracy, and the real deity worshiped by Enlightenment figures like those who founded the country. Two-and-a-half centuries later, and we're moving rapidly backwards, toward the seventeenth century, and away from democracy, rule of law and the marketplace of ideas, debated and thoughtfully considered.
Everybody talks about fascism nowadays, not least those on the right who remarkably manage to call Barack Obama a fascist in the same breath as they label him a socialist. The term has been beaten into near meaninglessness from ubiquitousness of application. (Could this be another extremely clever semantics ploy of the right-wing marketing machine, taking the term out of use now that it is legitimately applicable, by over- and ab-using it? Damn, these guys are good.)
Still, I've seen the video clips from the congressional constituent meetings last week. I saw the ones from the Sarah Palin rallies in 2008. I remember the 2000 Brooks Brothers riot, one of the most despicable acts in American history, which resulted – because of one of the most cowardly acts in American history – in shutting down vote-counting in Miami. I saw at least two purple-hearted American war heros turned into national security threats by a team of cowards who avoided war when it was their turn. None of the rabble on the right could make the Grand Canyon size leap to see that for what it plainly was. Today I see the incoherent rage, the senseless foaming at the mouth that not only doesn't fit reality, but in fact runs completely contrary to it. I see the current attempts to intimidate the government and to shut down the discussion of issues.
And I have to ask, do those people not resemble Brown Shirts more than anything else one can bring to mind?
And is our current political moment not beginning to stink of Berlin, 1933?




223 Comments so far
Show AllThis has been shaping up for quite some time. Remember when Slick Willie was being villified as a crazed liberal? And when the national-debt-doubling tag team of Reagan and GHW Bush could claim to be conservatives?
Tom Jefferson, George Orwell and and Barry Goldwater are probably sitting on a cloud having a brandy together, shaking their heads over how the language of politics has become so thoroughly detached from meaning.
The confusion Prof. Green speaks of is the goal the corporatocracy has been striving for since 1947 at least. We soon won't be able to have a civilized debate on anything.
And yet, it was Jefferson himself who said things like "What country before ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?" And: "The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all."
I'm not worried, because I think this country is long overdue for a rebellion. Resistance to government is good, not bad.
It is not government that is at fault here. We refuse to pick up the tools and toil at progress. Working together is hard work. If a few foxtrained operatives choose to rock our world, let them rock it. Our lack of support for progress will cause us more harm than any moron who grabs a microphone at a meeting. We need to create a fork in the road and take it.
Right *ON*! That's exactly it: we refuse to pick up the tools and get to work. We have all the power in the world, but have learned to be helpless. We'll spend any amount of time moaning about how bad things are, but won't lift a finger to change them.
Right. Frikking. *ON*!
PaulfromGA
I completely agree with you that resistance to government is good, that is when the people are resisting it to better their lives. If on the other had they are resisting the government against their own best interest because they are being misled by corporate propaganda, then that is VERY bad.
NC-Tom
Tom, what if the protests grow beyond anyone's outside control? It could happen, y'know.
Yup, could happen. I always say that Rush Lint-balls is one of the bravest guys in the U.S. Everyday he goes on the air and lies to angry guys with guns. If on the outside chance they ever figure it, out he's in seriously deep doo-doo.
But that being said that's the point of propaganda, to control the masses. The 1930s/40s Nazis were excellent at it and our current crop of Fascists have had another 60 years to perfect it even further. I'm pessimistic at best of what the outcome will be.
Real revolutions do grow out of anyones control. Quite quickly usually, the people who launched the French revolution lost their own heads in the end. The only thing worse than a failed revolution, is a successful one.
Not entriely true. The truth is much more complicated.
It is very hard to gauge the success of most revolutions since the end of WW2 and the revolutions of 1917 because of the harse wars and economic wars that get immediately waged on them by the capitalist countries - notably the United States.
Russians immediately faced the White-Russian war waged on them by the west but in spite of this, the average Russian worker was still better off after 1917 than under the Tsar. The rise of Stalin cannot be blamed on the revolution itself, but was no doubt facilitiated by the harsh conditions imposed from the west.
Similar situation in Cuba - most cubans are better-off post-Batista, but we can only speculate how much better off they would have been without US meddling.
Nicaragua under the Sandinistas was a big, big improvement over Somosa - until the US waged full war-by-proxy on them - ultimately defeating them.
East Timor and Haiti also had successful revolutions, in the case of East Timor at a cost of one-third of their population, but were immediately hindered in inproving the living conditions by the neoliberal economic regime. In Haiti this included a US sponsored counter revolution in the 1990s, and then a coup in 2004.
Comparing revolutions is always going to be a tricky thing. Some countries are larger or more industrialised than others, then there are issues like race, class and religion.
I'd say it's easier to have a successful revolution in a small country, if it gets support from a large country like Cuba did.
In a larger country, like the states or Russia, a revolution is going to be much harder for those leading it to control. The usa isn't the same size as it was in the 1770s, so that revolution isn't really going to be able to serve as a model for one that might happen in the 21st century. Nor is the usa anything like the ussr, you're not on the losing end of a war against germany that saw a good chunk of your western territory taken from you, nor are any countries likely to send combat troops to interveen in any revolt launched by people in the states. (if you really have one... there's a good chance people will be too apathetic to give a damn about a change in government.)
If any revolution gives a clue as to what would happen in a modern yank society, I'd argue it'd be the English or French ones. France in the 1790s or England in the 1640s, both revolutions didn't get what the revolutionaries really fought for...
When talking about any potential revolution in the states you would need to take into consideration the wide range of media that is now available and were not available in most of the revolutions discussed in these posts. People could constantly be in touch via TV, Radio, Internet, cell phones, twitter, face book, ... You could see twitter becoming a notable factor in the protests in Iran.
I would think these technologies could be used by TPTB to keep people organized the way they want and prevent splintering. But that being said once a revolution starts its like a war and things could still get out of control. Who knows. I'm hoping it wont happen but things are not looking too good.
The author asks: "Can we really live in a country populated by so many fools ?
For me, that question was almost answered when Ronny Raygun was elected in 1980, and the question was succinctly and unequivocally answered when he was re-elected in 1984. The fact that Raygun is even more popular among the US electorate today confirms that it is only getting worse.
What part of fascism don't you understand?
I completely agree with you. I almost wonder if the country is being run in a way planned to move it from the Fascist-lite society it is now into a full fledged goose stepping brown shirt Fascist empire.
It appears that the pieces have been slowly put into place over the last 30 years or so. Right wing radio and TV are in place to spew and and reinforce corporate propaganda that doesn't even make sense, but is believed anyway because it is repeated over and over, and over, drummed into unsuspecting poorly educated minds.
A large disenfranchised middle class manufactured by policies that ship and outsource middle class jobs over seas creating a slow seething rage within it, which we can see is too easily ignited by the corporate priests of lies.
And don't forget the recent massive transfer of public money into an openly corrupt corporate financial system.
The ducks appear to be forming into a line, and I really don't like where I see things going.
Yes, there is increasing madness and insanity.
The only salvation is not "out there"...it is inside you.
I will take this moment to refer all to Eckhart Tolle's
The Power of Now or A New Earth.
Mr Green, this is the best damn piece of work I've read in a long time! Thanks so much for bringing it to us here at CD.It reminds me of the old addage "If you can't Dazzle them with Brilliance Baffle them with Bullsh*t.We get dazzled and baffled alot these days. peace
Thanks for your thoughts.
However, Reagan, another brainless boob, we can thank so much for destroying democracy - really took the giant step toward fascism. Kicking the shit out of little third world countries, then comparing such cowardice, to riding tall in the saddle.
My mind started to boggle then, totally overwhelmed by the gross stupidity of the people of this "country" at this time.
Have we no shame?
Life forms that live in such a fashion have as much in the way of rights, as they extend to others.
And so be it.
Regarding this excellent article, please go to Sara Robinson's "Fascist America: Are We There Yet?" on last Sunday's Common Dreams. Tony Vodvarka
When God told Americans they were the chosen ones I think she was just joking.
"Can the greatest political, economic, cultural and military power on the world's stage possibly be so incredibly backward at its core?"
Prof, so long as you buy into and perpetuate this "greatest" tag line, no, there will be no hope.
Well, if by "greatest" Prof. Green is refering to the undisputed size of the US economy (only when the EU is treated as a single country is there a larger economy), it world-girding junk culture, and it's military budget larger than the rest of the world combined, then it is an accurate statement.
Too true, there has always been a difference between great and good. One doesn't need to be 'good' to be 'great', a nation that seeks to be an empire must avoid the 'good' to become 'great'.
According to my dictionary the only time you can put 'great' with 'good' is when you're talking about a piece of art.
Sometimes great nations make great mistakes.
Sometimes good nations make great mistakes.
Why don't nations ever make good mistakes?
Bill from Saginaw
Excellent reminder!
Mr. Green must reflect on the meaning of 'great'.
It again comes down to the spaciness of the average american, as I have stated in many posts before. The disconnectedness in the suburbs, the farms and the churches is severe. There is no real discourse or conversation, just following of preset ideas that fuel the superiority myth and the status quo. Everyone one America can Isolate themselves, and follow their narrow doctrine, whatever that maybe. You never come face to face with the the reality of someone whose opinion is different from yours, and have a real conversation. That is why radicalism of all kinds survive here, and not so much in other nations. Following someone else's idea is much easier in your Lazyboy after a superhumungous TBone or New York.
It always amazed me how an entire poplulation could follow the orders of a shrimpy madman, with the assistance of Himmler and Goebbels. It would never have worked in a Country of Independent thinkers.
Which America is not. Limbaugh always states how he is doing the thinking for the average american, and leads them along the most logicless, fact defying paths in his sermons. Clear Channel and Murdoch are the two of the many reasons we find ourselves here.
Remember there was vote rigging and booth take overs to get Hitler into Power, which in our case has already happened. Thankfully, it has not continued into this administration, although Obama's decisions seems to be helping the fascist structures at every step.
My participation in the local democratic party is going nowhere. I am begining to doubt there will be a local Kucinich or the like. Time to put my energies elsewhere.
Love
Zero
//And I have to ask, do those people not resemble Brown Shirts more than anything else one can bring to mind?//
Aren't those people the parents of most of them boys and girls who fill the ranks of the armies of death and destruction which have gone and gone back to Iraq and Afghanistan for purposes untold?
Aren't they the same people who still believe that "nuking" Iran might be good, as if "nuking" Japan had been "good"?
First of all, I apologize if this is offensive in advance.
I hate to say it, but I agree with Mr(Dr?) Green. The idea of even more competition in my job scares the hell out of me. I work as hard as I can(right now I'm on a five minute break before I head back in), barely keeping my head above water, and hoping that today won't be the day that I'm downsized. The idea that there is a whole other group of people that could be even more of a threat to take my job is terrifying. The alternative is something I see twice a month when I volunteer at our soup kitchen. I know that I should be happy that my job might go to a minority that has been oppressed, but I've had to ask where I'm going to live and I've gone short on food. I can't again, I just can't.
I know that I'll have to go without the non work things that keep me going someday and that scares me as well(not exotic vacations, more like travelling to fairly local Buddhist retreats or the like, no more than two or three times a year). I know that I should be thrilled with the great white empire falling, but I'm not. Not when the only things I have left are the only things that make life worth living.
So yeah, I agree with what Mr.(Dr.) Green is talking about.
Again, sorry if this is offensive.
Cassius 23,
Your post is not at all offensive, and I understand where you're coming from.
I was "forcibly retired" two years ago, and have not been able to find work. I do, however, receive Social Security, and, although I cannot now even afford Buddhist retreats, I meditate with a group once a week, and enjoy "private" retreats in my own back yard and in nearby nature parks.
I wish you the best in your work and in the future.
Peace,
rosie2731
PS. I, too, agree that Prof. Green has written an important and insightful article.
rosie2731
"The idea that there is a whole other group of people that could be even more of a threat to take my job is terrifying."
"I know that I should be happy that my job might go to a minority that has been oppressed..."
You seem to be suffering from some of the same unhinged reality that Mr. Green is talking about. If the positions at your job are being increasingly filled by poor immigrants who will work for less, the solution is to organize everyone in a union! The poor immigrants have always been the heart of the labor struggle. Consider finding and viewing the historically accurate movie "Matewan" which depicts how Italian immmigrant, African American, and "native" west Virginians united against the coal bosses. Other places, it was Irish, Poles, Czechs, Slovaks Hungarians, Ukranians initially displacing "white" people - no different than Mexicans and Central Americans today - but then organizing for better waages and working conditions for everyone.
As if by "minority that has been opressed" taking your job, you mean black Americans, and assuming you are white, you should stop worrying. Both statistical studies and actual sociological experiments show that black Americans still face widespread job discrimination in nearly every job.
The unions were broken during the Reagan era, they're but a pale shade of what they once were. You could try to organise a union in a place where widgets are still made (are there any outside the defense industry?), but in stores, offices and most other jobs that are filled by people; you're not going to have much luck.
Mention the word 'union' in some workplaces and you're getting a pink slip by the end of the day - even if you're damning the concept of a union (unless you're the manager and telling your employees what'll happen to them if they mention that most evil of words...)
Mr. Green, as usual, has brought the social/political picture into stark focus. Welcome to the Middle Ages II, coming to a village near you, real soon.
thank you, again, and again, dmg, for some of the most brilliant writing around. thank you, as well, cd, for putting it out there.
Jill, excellent analysis. One thing to add though. Not only are the Obama followers blindly following Obama but they are even stooping to new lows of calling us "Republicans" for supporting single payer and opposing garbage such as HR3200 which I call Obamacare since he's leaning towards supporting whatever gets sent to his desk. Recently, I have noticed on some of the progressive blogs a disturbing trend of calling people who question Obama's pandering to the right as "racists". I think that we're now starting to see who really takes the issues seriously versus who's ready to play partisan politics. We who take the issues seriously are vastly outnumbered by the purely political partisans on both the right and the left. If more people voted on the issues and not personality and party, we would have better leadership. Heck, we might even have had Democrats and Republicans more in line with Paul, Kucinich, Gravel, etc ... rather than the very few that are.
Jill, Jennifer,
I agree that it's not just the right -- so many people I know, who are liberal, seem to be just as brain dead! Some of my friends no longer reply to my political e-mails. I have asked them, point-blank, about the Geneva Conventions, and torture policies -- If torture during Bush's presidency was so wrong, isn't it also wrong with Obama as president? They don't reply.
They are so blind that they don't see that the health care bill is a gift to the health industries -- another upward shift of wealth. "We the People" can't afford to keep enriching these mostly white men -- I hate to say that, but it's true.
I didn't ever recognize Obama as a progressive or liberal, and therefore, I didn't vote for him.
BTW, Jennifer, I read what happened to you at an Obama rally, but I didn't have time to reply. I was horrified that you were punched! These people are just as capable of violence as the right is.
Kay, I know how you feel and it's hard to reason with them. I don't know if you met my uncle (Stanley1979) who I introduced to this site last week. He voted for Obama but like Ted Markow, he's not the bot type. He's like my conservative parents except he's liberal. In both cases, they're open to reasoning. Maybe we'll need to find more like them and see what can be done to get them to bridge the gap in reasoning between us and the hard headeds in both the D and R camps. I look at assaults of all kinds as nothing more than cowardice.
Unfortunately, Jill, (because real progressive change lies in the balance), your analysis of Green's essay is spot on. Gore Vidal had it right when he said that there is one party in the country with a reactionary wing (Republicans) and a conservative wing (Democrats) and they all kneel at the corporate altar.
The "progressives" who drink massive amounts of Obama's Kool Aid choose not to look at the continued murder in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan as well as Obama's continued courtship of corrupt Wall Street thugs, military thugs, corporate thugs, health care thugs, and on and on and on - and now of course his pledge to revamp NAFTA is going by the wayside.
My theory - and other prominent progressives is this: Obamanistas are also blinded by the fact that the man is black and continue to assume that because he's black that's he's some magical combination of King, Malcolm, Dick Gregory, Fannie Lou Hamer, Mumia Abu Jamal, Glen Ford, and Jesus. That would be cool, but he's not. He's a product of the corporation. His previous record and actions now cast his beliefs in cement. In fact, Dick Gregory had it right: "This isn't a matter of black and white, it's matter of right and wrong." To these folks who cast Obama progressive because he's black, there's a thread of racism just beneath the surface.
They call the Obama win and his campaign historic for various reasons. I think it was historic for one reason: it was a magic marketing carpet ride for bullshit and crappola. If he was half the man his detractors on the right make him out to be, he would never have been elected. Real progressive change, peace, and compassion never wins for the White House. Simply ask George McGovern - a true progressive, and Obama couldn't carry his jockstrap.
Barack Obama is the newfangled imperial leader of the Empire. Period.
How can anyone expect to be taken seriously who continues to use the absurd, tired, stupid, over-used, and reactionary-generated old cliche: "Kool Aid"?
Now, cut that out!
You hold an important job, that of cliche police... That's what you take away from the post? What's your favorite flavor?
We cliche police are on the front lines in the war against fuzzy writing, and therefore confused thinking.
(How many cliches did you spot?)
Vanilla.
Fuzzy writing? Confused thinking? I could not have been more straightforward. And I don't think your fav flavor is vanilla, it's probably more like Gibberish.
Good. You spotted two of them. Nicely done.
And try to pay attention; confused and fuzzy referred back to the Kool Aid metaphor, not your own translucent prose.
Your continued gibberish (yeah, twice) doesn't speak to the post but rather your ongoing obsession with Kraft's junk drink (I'm scared to type ****-aid again, you might wet your pants once more).
What's your point?
Don't be scared.
Still no substance... and your desire to nurture through sarcasm is quaint.
Quaintly insubstantial; now you're getting somewhere!
Done.
it was actually Flavor Aid which was drunk at Jonestown.
Is there really still that much blind belief in Obama as is being stated in this line of posts? Over the last six months I seem to see an awful lot of questioning of his policies and downright disillusionment with him from the left as basically being a Bush-lite president.
I know I had SOME hope that he would be more "progressive" than he is turning out to be. But I've had no problem readjusting my opinion of him has I see him in action.
PBS had a pretty good special about Obama's life around the time he won the election. When they talked about his time at Harvard I realized he was in no way going to be a liberal, so I got that disappoint out of the way real early in his presidency.
You're quite right. I had hoped that Obama wouldn't be such a corporatist, but didn't really think that he'd get on the ballot in the states if he were really a 'progressive'. Even his half-arsed 'reform' of the healthcare industry in the states was laughable when he was talking about it during the election; I never heard him say 'single payer' during the actual election campaign.
What's really dangerous is that some have that 'faith' that Obama is going to be the saviour of the world and democracy and the economy. Some of it was pumped out by the media, some by hardcore party workers, but the message did get out and still has some resonance today. When the man can't live up to any of that hope (not even Jesus could live up to that sort of billing...) there is a potential for a heck of a negative reaction.
The thing is that the bankruptcies are continuing, foreclosures accelerating and the economy hasn't hit bottom yet. In spite of the cheerleading by the media, there is no evidence that any of the cash given to the banks has done any good at all. There are those who still say that the deficit doesn't matter, that the debt in relation to the gdp is not a worry. I think there's a risk that what happened to Argentina in the 80s will happen to the usa...
Eh. Jill's analysis is guilty of the some of flaws that Green points out.
She appears to define any "Democrats" or "Obama supporters" as "left wing". She has fallen into the trap that many on the right have. Everything is defined around Obama, a manichean duality. Anyone who is left wing is automatically an Obama supporter.
When it is often the left wing that has protested most loudly against Obama, on pretty much every issue, from Iraq, to Afghanistan, to torture, to health care, to global warming, to renewable energy, to mountaintop mining, to "clean" coal, to LGBT equality, etc.
If you accept Jill's argument, the term "left wing" is going to become as meaningless as "socialist" or "liberal".