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Bill Moyers: Is This a Private Fight or Can Anyone Get In It?
Bill Moyers was the keynote speaker at the History Makers 2011 convention on January 27, 2011, in New York City. The year 2011 will mark the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Soviet Union, the 150th anniversary of the American Civil War and of course the tenth anniversary of the World Trade Center Disaster. History Makers 2011 will anticipate these monumental anniversaries and bring together the World’s best program makers to give you their take on the significance of these events.
Thanks to all of you for your welcome - and for the chance to be here among so many kindred spirits. Your dedication to factual broadcasting, to our craft and calling; your passion for telling stories that matter; for connecting the present to the past, has created a community whose work is essential in this disquieting time when "what is happening today, this hour, this very minute, seems to be our sole criterion for judgment and action." It is a sad world that exists only in the present, unaware of the long procession that brought us here. As Milan Kundera’s insight reminds us, the struggle against power "is the struggle of memory against forgetting."
I talked about this gathering when I was in California this past weekend and spent time with a good friend and supporter of my own work on television, Paul Orfalea. He's the maverick entrepreneur who founded Kinko's in a former hamburger stand with one small rented Xerox copier and turned it into a business service empire with more than two billion dollars a year in revenue. After selling Kinko's, Paul became one of the most popular, if unorthodox, teachers of undergraduates at the University of California/ Santa Barbara. When I told him what I would be doing today he applauded and understood immediately the importance of what you do. He described to me how he teaches history "backwards" to college students who have learned little about the past in high school, don't know that the past is even alive, much less that it lives in them and question its value today. He hands his students a contemporary story from some daily news source, tells them to begin with the "now" of it and to then walk the trail back down the chronology to trace the personalities, circumstances and choices that made it today's news. Their assignment, in effect, is to begin at the entrance to the cave and rewind Ariadne's thread in the opposite direction, back to the deep origins of the story. In an era marked by the lack of continuity and community between the generations, this strikes me as an inspired way to stretch young imaginations across the time zones of human experience.
And it's, of course, what you do so often in your work. No one I know does it more effectively than "Frontline." and I was pleased to learn that you are honoring its executive director, David Fanning, who is a genius, in my book, at story telling grounded in fact and presented with perspective. Over the past quarter century, I have been privileged to collaborate occasionally with David. But beyond my own personal and professional gratitude to him, all of us who produce current affairs and history programming know that he has kept the bar high while producing a body of work unequaled since Fred Friendly. Most of you are too young to have seen the whole arc of David's extraordinary career or to have known Fred Friendly's work. But some of us can never forget we're standing on the shoulder of those two giants.
I also had the privilege of witnessing Fred in action. When he was president of "CBS News" and I was the White House press secretary, he would come down from New York on the shuttle and slip in the back door of the White House and along the hall past the Cabinet Room to the private entrance to my office for an hour-or-so chat. I had done some preliminary work at the Office of Education on the future of public television in 1964, and we were soon talking about the medium's future; he was a true believer in television "that dignifies instead of debases" and of the importance "of at least one channel free of commercials and commercial values." Little did we know at the time that he would soon quit the job he relished as president of the news division that he and Edward R. Murrow had built. The two of them created "See It Now" and "CBS Reports," which set the standard for investigative reporting and documentaries of unprecedented power and impact. One of their collaborations was the famous documentary on the demagogic and dangerous Senator Joseph McCarthy. They made the brilliant decision to let McCarthy speak for himself, an entire broadcast's worth of his bullying words and techniques. McCarthy obligingly hanged himself on national television, far more effectively and fatally than anyone else's words could. His own words had turned Americans against his demagoguery - something for which the right to this day has never forgiven what they denounced as the "Communist Broadcasting System." Watching that documentary over and again, I realized that it is through such unhurried honoring of reality that we can approach the myriad and messy truths of human experience. For lasting effect, those truths cannot be forced into the mind of the public; they must be nurtured.
Fred never wanted to leave CBS, but in 1966, when the network refused to carry Senate hearings on the Vietnam War, choosing instead to run a repeat of "I Love Lucy," he resigned, became the media adviser to the Ford Foundation and was the prime mover in the creation of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. He became our Johnny Appleseed, persuading the foundation to put its money - millions of dollars - where his mind was.
I had left the White House by then to be publisher of Newsday and would soon join public television as anchor of a weekly broadcast. Fred's first teaching assistant, Martin Clancy, was my star producer. It was usually one of Fred's people who taught me the most about our craft - how it was possible through the coupling of word and image to come close to the verifiable truth and an honest accounting of reality. Fred played a critical role in my life when, after stints at both CBS and PBS, I had to choose between the two. I had found it increasingly difficult at the network to do the work I most wanted to do, but was reluctant to take off the golden handcuffs and leap into the world of independent production. I went over to see Fred at the foundation and there was nothing subtle in his advice. He said, "You're never going to do the work you most want to do until you do it for yourself." So, I followed him overboard.
Fred was right, as he so often was: independence meant the best hope for me to pursue journalism as a mission. Perhaps, we were naïve, but in those days many of us still assumed that an informed public is preferable to an uninformed one. Hadn't Thomas Jefferson proclaimed that, "Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government"? And wasn't a free press essential to that end?
Maybe not. As Joe Keohane reported last year in The Boston Globe, political scientists have begun to discover a human tendency "deeply discouraging to anyone with faith in the power of information." He was reporting on research at the University of Michigan, which found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in new stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts were not curing misinformation. "Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger." You can read the entire article online.
I won't spoil it for you by a lengthy summary here. Suffice it to say that, while "most of us like to believe that our opinions have been formed over time by careful, rational consideration of facts and ideas and that the decisions based on those opinions, therefore, have the ring of soundness and intelligence," the research found that actually "we often base our opinions on our beliefs ... and rather than facts driving beliefs, our beliefs can dictate the facts we chose to accept. They can cause us to twist facts so they fit better with our preconceived notions."
These studies help to explain why America seems more and more unable to deal with reality. So many people inhabit a closed belief system on whose door they have hung the "Do Not Disturb" sign, that they pick and choose only those facts that will serve as building blocks for walling them off from uncomfortable truths. Any journalist whose reporting threatens that belief system gets sliced and diced by its apologists and polemicists (say, the fabulists at Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and the yahoos of talk radio.) Remember when Limbaugh, for one, took journalists on for their reporting about torture at Abu Ghraib? He attempted to dismiss the cruelty inflicted on their captives by American soldiers as a little necessary "sport" for soldiers under stress, saying on air: "This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation ... you [ever] heard of need to blow some steam off?" As so often happens, the Limbaugh line became a drumbeat in the nether reaches of the right-wing echo chamber. So, it was not surprising that in a nationwide survey conducted by The Chicago Tribune on First Amendment issues, half of the respondents said there should be some kind of press restraint on reporting about the prison abuse. According to Charles Madigan, the editor of the Tribune's Perspective section, 50 or 60 percent of the respondents said they "would embrace government controls of some kind on free speech, particularly when it has sexual content or is heard as unpatriotic."
No wonder many people still believe Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii, as his birth certificate shows; or that he is a Muslim, when in fact he is a Christian; or that he is a socialist when day by day he shows an eager solicitude for corporate capitalism. Partisans in particular - and the audiences for Murdoch's Fox News and talk radio - are particularly susceptible to such scurrilous disinformation. In a Harris survey last spring, 67 percent of Republicans said Obama is a socialist; 57 percent believed him to be a Muslim; 45 percent refused to believe he was born in America; and 24 percent said he "may be the antichrist."
The bigger the smear, the more it sticks. And there is no shortage of smear artists. Last year, Forbes Magazine, obviously bent on mischief, allowed the right-wing fantasist Dinesh D'Souza to tar Obama with a toxic brew so odious it triggered memories of racist babble - a perverted combination of half-baked psychology, biology and sociology - that marked the heyday of the Ku Klux Klan. Seizing upon the anti-colonial views of Obama's Kenyan father, who had deserted the family when the boy was two years old and whose absence from his life Obama meditated upon in his best-selling book "Dreams of My Father," D'Souza wrote that, "Incredibly, the US is being ruled according to the dreams of a Luo tribesman of the 1950s. This philandering, inebriated African socialist, who raged against the world for denying him the realization of his anticolonial ambitions, is now setting the nation's agenda through the reincarnation of his dreams in his son."
In a sane political world, you might think at least a few Republican notables would have denounced such hogwash by their own kind for what it was. But no. Newt Gingrich, once their speaker of the House, whose own fantasies include succeeding Obama in the White House, set the tone by praising D'Souza's claptrap as the "most profound insight I have read in the last six years about Barack Obama." D'Souza, said Gingrich, has made a "stunning insight" and had unlocked the mystery of Obama. I could find only one conservative who stood up against this trash. David Frum, the former speechwriter for George W. Bush, wrote on his blog: "The argument that Obama is an infiltrating alien, a deceiving foreigner - and not just any kind of alien, but specifically a Third World alien - has been absorbed to the very core of the Republican platform for November 2010." Once again, the right-wing media machine had popularized a false narrative and made of it a destructive political weapon.
Disinformation is not unique to the right, of course. Like other journalists, I have been the object of malevolent assaults from the "9/11 truthers" for not reporting their airtight case proving that the Bush administration conspired to bring about the attacks on the World Trade Center. How did they discover this conspiracy? As the independent journalist Robert Parry has written, "the truthers" threw out all the evidence of al-Qaeda's involvement, from contemporaneous calls from hijack victims on the planes to confessions from al-Qaeda leaders both in and out of captivity that they had indeed done it. Then, recycling some of the right's sophistry techniques, such as using long lists of supposed evidence to overcome the lack of any real evidence, the "truthers" cherry-picked a few supposed "anomalies" to build an "inside-job" story line. Fortunately, this Big Lie never took hold in the public mind. These truthers on the left, if that is where GPS can find them on the political map, are outgunned, outmatched and outshouted by the media apparatus on the right that pounds the public like drone missiles loaded with conspiracy theories and disinformation and accompanied by armadas of outright lies.
George Orwell had warned six decades ago that the corrosion of language goes hand in hand with the corruption of democracy. If he were around today, he would remind us that "like the rattling of a stick inside a swill bucket," this kind of propaganda engenders a "protective stupidity" almost impossible for facts to penetrate.
But you, my colleagues, can't give up. If you do, there's no chance any public memory of everyday truths - the tangible, touchable, palpable realities so vital to democracy - will survive. We would be left to the mercy of the agitated amnesiacs who "make" their own reality, as one of them boasted at the time America invaded Iraq, in order to maintain their hold on the public mind and the levers of power. You will remember that in Orwell's novel "1984," Big Brother banishes history to the memory hole, where inconvenient facts simply disappear. Control of the present rests on obliteration of the past. The figure of O'Brien, who is the personification of Big Brother, says to the protagonist, Winston Smith: "We shall squeeze you empty and then we shall fill you with ourselves." And they do. The bureaucrats in the Ministry of Truth destroy the records of the past and publish new versions. These in turn are superseded by yet more revisions. Why? Because people without memory are at the mercy of the powers that be; there is nothing against which to measure what they are told today. History is obliterated.
The late scholar Cleanth Brooks of Yale thought there were three great enemies of democracy. He called them "The Bastard Muses": Propaganda, which pleads sometimes unscrupulously, for a special cause at the expense of the total truth; sentimentality, which works up emotional responses unwarranted by, and in excess of, the occasion; and pornography, which focuses upon one powerful human drive at the expense of the total human personality. The poet Czeslaw Milosz identified another enemy of democracy when, upon accepting the Noble Prize for Literature, he said "Our planet that gets smaller every year, with its fantastic proliferation of mass media, is witnessing a process that escapes definition, characterized by a refusal to remember." Memory is crucial to democracy; historical amnesia, its nemesis.
Against these tendencies it is an uphill fight to stay the course of factual broadcasting. We have to keep reassuring ourselves and one another that it matters and we have to join forces to defend and safeguard our independence. I learned this early on.
When I collaborated with the producer Sherry Jones on the very first documentary ever about the purchase of government favors by political action committees, we unfurled across the Capitol grounds yard after yard of computer printouts listing campaign contributions to every member of Congress. The broadcast infuriated just about everyone, including old friends of mine who a few years earlier had been allies when I worked at the White House. Congressmen friendly to public television were also outraged, but, I am pleased to report, PBS took the heat without melting.
But shining the spotlight on political corruption is nothing compared to what can happen if you raise questions about corporate power in Washington, as my colleague Marty Koughan and I discovered when we produced a program for David Fanning and "Frontline" on pesticides and food. Marty had learned that industry was attempting behind closed doors to dilute the findings of the American Academy of Sciences study on the effects of pesticide residues on children. Before we finished the documentary, the industry somehow purloined a copy of our draft script - we still aren't certain how - and mounted a sophisticated and expensive campaign to discredit our program before it aired. Television reviewers and editorial pages of key newspapers were flooded with propaganda. Some public television managers were so unnerved by the blitz of misleading information about a film they had not yet broadcast that they actually protested to PBS with letters that had been prepared by the industry.
Here's what most perplexed us: the American Cancer Society - an organization that in no way figured in our story - sent to its 3,000 local chapters a "critique" of the unfinished documentary claiming, wrongly, that it exaggerated the dangers of pesticides in food. We were puzzled. Why was the American Cancer Society taking the unusual step of criticizing a documentary that it had not seen, that had not aired and that did not claim what the Society alleged? An enterprising reporter named Sheila Kaplan later looked into those questions for the journal Legal Times. It turns out that the Porter Novelli public relations firm, which had worked for several chemical companies, also did pro bono work for the American Cancer Society. Kaplan found that the firm was able to cash in some of the goodwill from that "charitable" work to persuade the compliant communications staff at the Society to distribute some harsh talking point about the documentary before it aired - talking points that had been supplied by, but not attributed to, Porter Novelli. Legal Times headlined the story "Porter Novelli Plays All Sides." A familiar Washington game.
Others also used the American Cancer Society's good name in efforts to tarnish the journalism before it aired, none more invidiously than the right-wing polemicist Reed Irvine, who pumped his sludge through an organization with the Orwellian name Accuracy in Media. He attacked our work as "junk science on PBS" and demanded Congress pull the plug on public broadcasting. Fortunately, PBS once again stood firm. The documentary aired, the journalism held up and the publicity liberated the National Academy of Sciences to release the study that the industry had tried to cripple.
However, there's always another round; the sharks are always circling. Sherry Jones and I spent more than a year working on another PBS documentary called "Trade Secrets," a two-hour investigative special based on revelations - found in the industry's own archives - that big chemical companies had deliberately withheld from workers and consumers damaging information about toxic chemicals in their products. These internal industry documents are a fact. They exist. They are not a matter of opinion or point of view. They state what the companies knew, when they knew it and what they did with what they knew (namely to deep-six it) at peril to those who worked with and consumed the potentially lethal products.
The revelations portrayed deep and pervasive corruption in a major American industry and raised critical policy implications about the safety of living under a regulatory system manipulated by the industry itself. If the public and government regulators had known what the industry knew about the health risks of its products when the industry knew it, America's laws and regulations governing chemical manufacturing would have been far more protective of human health. But the industry didn't want us to know. That's what the documents revealed and that was the story the industry fought to keep us from telling.
The industry hired as an ally a public relations firm in Washington noted for using private detectives and former CIA, FBI and drug enforcement officers to conduct investigations for corporations under critical scrutiny. One of the company's founders acknowledged that corporations may need to resort to "deceit" and other unconventional resources to counter public scrutiny. Given the scurrilous campaign that was conducted to smear our journalism, his comments were an understatement. To complicate matters, the Congressman, who for years had been the single biggest recipient of campaign contributions from the chemical industry, was the very member of Congress whose committee had jurisdiction over public broadcasting's appropriations. As an independent production firm, we had not used public funds to produce the documentary. But even our independence didn't stop the corporate mercenaries from bringing relentless pressure on PBS not to air the broadcast. The then president of PBS, Pat Mitchell, stood tall in resisting the pressure and was vindicated: one year later, The National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences awarded "Trade Secrets" an Emmy for outstanding investigative journalism.
Now, you can understand how it is that journalism became for me a continuing course in adult education. It enabled me to produce documentaries like "Trade Secrets" and out-of-the-box series like "Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth." It enabled me to cover the summits of world leaders and the daily lives of struggling families in Newark. It empowered me to explain how public elections are subverted by private money, and to how to make a poem. Journalism also provided me a passport into the world of ideas, which became my favorite beat, in no small part because I never met anyone - philosopher or physicist, historian, artist, writer, scientist, entrepreneur or social critic - who didn't teach me something I hadn't known, something that enlarged my life.
Here's an example: One of my favorite of all interviews was with my sainted fellow Texan, the writer and broadcaster John Henry Faulk, who had many years earlier, been the target of a right-wing smear campaign that resulted in his firing by CBS from his job as a radio host here in New York, one of the low moments in that network's history. But John Henry fought back in court and won a landmark legal victory against his tormentors. After he returned home to Texas, I did the last interview with him before his death in 1990. He told me the story of how he and his friend Boots Cooper were playing in the chicken coop when they were about 12 years old. They spied a chicken snake in the top tier of nests, so close it looked like a boa constrictor. As John Henry put it, "All our frontier courage drained out our heels - actually it trickled down our overall legs - and Boots and I made a new door through that henhouse wall." Hearing all the commotion Boots' momma came out and said, "Don't you boys know chicken snakes are harmless? They can't harm you." And Boots, rubbing his forehead and behind at the same time, said, "Yes, Mrs. Faulk, I know that, but they can scare you so bad, it'll cause you to hurt yourself." John Henry Faulk told me that's a lesson he never forgot. Over and again I've tried to remember it, too, calling on it to restore my resolve and my soul.
I've had a wonderful life in broadcasting, matriculating as a perpetual student in the school of journalism. Other people have paid the tuition and travel and I've never really had to grow up and get a day job. I think it's because journalism has been so good to me that I am sad when I hear or read that factual broadcasting is passé - that television as a venue for forensic journalism is on its way out and that trying to find out "what really happened" - which is our mandate - is but a quaint relic in an age of post-structuralism and cyberspace. But despite all our personal electronic devices, people are watching more television than ever. Much of this programming is posted online; I believe at least half the audience for my last two weekly series on Friday night came over the weekend via streaming video, iPods and TIVO. I was pleased to discover that the web sites most frequented by educators are those of PBS and that our own sites were among the most popular destinations. That's what keeps us going, isn't it? The knowledge that all the bias and ignorance notwithstanding, facts still matter to critical thinking, that if we respect and honor, even revere them, they just might help us right the ship of state before it rams the iceberg.
That's why, on balance, I count WikiLeaks a plus for democracy. Whatever side you take on the controversy, whether or not you think this information should be disclosed, all parties - those who want it released and those who don't - acknowledge that information matters. Partly because I grew up in the south and partly because of my experience in the Johnson White House, I'm on the side of disclosure, even when it hurts. The truth about slavery had been driven from the pulpits, newsrooms and classrooms during the antebellum days; it took a bloody civil war to drive the truth home. At the Johnson White House, we circled the wagons and grew intolerant of news that didn't conform to our hopes, expectations and strategies for Vietnam, with terrible, tragic results for Americans and Vietnamese, north and south. I say: "Never again!"
Here's a sidebar: I remember vividly the day President Johnson signed the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA): July 4, 1966. He signed it "with a deep sense of pride," declaring in almost lyrical language "that the United States is an open society in which the people's right to know is cherished and guarded." That's what he said. The truth is, the president had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the signing ceremony. He hated the very idea of journalists rummaging in government closets, hated them challenging the authorized view of reality, hated them knowing what he didn't want them to know. He dug in his heels and even threatened to pocket veto the bill after it reached the White House. Only the courage and political skill of a Congressman named John Moss got the bill passed at all and that was after a 12-year battle against his Congressional elders, who blinked every time the sun shined on the dark corners of power. They managed to cripple the bill Moss had drafted and, even then, only some last-minute calls to LBJ from a handful of influential newspaper editors overcame the president's reluctance. He signed "the f------ thing," as he called it and then, lo and behold, went out to claim credit for it.
It's always a fight to find out what the government doesn't want us to know. The official obsession with secrecy is all the more disturbing today because the war on terrorism is a war without limits, without a visible enemy or decisive encounters. We don't know where the clandestine war is going on or how much it's costing and whether it's in the least effective. Even in Afghanistan, most of what we know comes from official, usually military, sources.
Thus, a relative handful of people have enormous power to keep us in the dark. And when those people are in league with their counterparts in powerful corporations, the public is hit with a double whammy. We're usually told the issue is national security, but keeping us from finding out about the danger of accidents at chemical plants is not about national security; it's about covering up an industry's indiscretions and liabilities. Locking up the secrets of meetings with energy executives is not about national security; it's about hiding confidential memos sent to the White House showing the influence of oil companies on policies of global warming We only learned about that memo from the Bush White House, by the way, thanks to the Freedom of Information Act.
Consider WikiLeaks, then, to be one big FOIA dump. Were some people in high places embarrassed? Perhaps. They did squeal, but I don't think they were stuck.
And even so, we learned some important things from WikiLeaks. For example, as Reza Alsan writes in The Atlantic, the president of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, may not be as fanatical as we think he is; the diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks portray him as "a moderate reformer who'd like to cut deals with the West, but can't because hard-liners are calling the shots." One of them even slapped Ahmadinejad across the face when, at a high-level meeting. he proposed that the government allow more personal and press freedom at the height of the 2009 public protests in Iran. Such information can help us evaluate the incessant demands of neoconservative warmongers - the very people who rode the circuit with news of "weapons of mass destruction" in an effort to build support for invading Iraq - that we use military force against Iran to eliminate its nuclear capacity.
There are other uses of the disclosures from WikiLeaks admirably compiled by Greg Mitchell in the current edition of The Nation, where the one-time editor of Editor and Publisher performed an important public service by culling the gold from the dust.
I will close with an urgent appeal to you about one fight we won't win unless all of us join it. I'm sure everyone here agrees that we will eventually be moving to the web, all of us and that "free, instant, worldwide connectivity" is the future. But I'm sure you know that this incredible, free, open Internet highway is at risk, that corporations are on the brink of muscling their way to the front of the line. Media companies want the power to censor Internet content they don't like, to put toll booths on the web so they can charge more for the privilege of driving in the fast lanes, to turn it into a private preserve.
You may have heard that last month the FCC decided to protect free/open Internet access only on landline connections, not wireless - which is to say, there's no net neutrality in most of the online world. As Jenn Ettinger of the nonpartisan, nonprofit Free Press reported in Yes! magazine just two days ago:
The rules that the FCC passed in December are vague and weak. The limited protections that were placed on wired connections, the kind you access through your home computer, leave the door open for the phone and cable companies to develop fast and slow lanes on the Web and to favor their own content or applications.
Worse, the rules also explicitly allow wireless carriers ... to block applications for any reason and to degrade and de-prioritize websites you access using your cell phone or a device like an iPad.
Perhaps the FCC is biding its time, waiting to see how things develop technologically, with the current FCC chair seemingly more open to citizen input than was his predecessor. Or, again, maybe the landline regulation was meant simply to get media reformers off the commission's back. We can't relax our vigilance. In Ettinger's words:
The FCC still has the opportunity to put in place a solid framework that would put the public interest above the profit motive of the phone and cable companies that it is supposed to regulate. And the FCC should take immediate steps to close the loopholes it created, to strengthen its rules and to include wireless protections. The fight is far from over. We can work to change the rules, demand better oversight and consumer protections and make sure that the big companies can't pad their bottom lines on the backs of their customers.
In this effort, we have a strong ally in FCC commissioner Michael Copps, who. on my broadcast last year, spelled out how "our future is going to ride on broadband. How we get a job is going to ride on broadband. How we take care of our health. How we educate ourselves about our responsibilities as citizens ... And it's absolutely imperative that we have a place, that we have a venue to go to, to make sure that that Internet is kept open ... That's our decision to make as a people, as citizens: who's going to control this ultimately?"
With all the media consolidation that's happening today, the web may be the last stand of independent factual broadcasters like you. The stakes are high and we have come to the decisive round. I'll leave you with a story Joseph Campbell told me years ago for my series "The Power of Myth." It seems a fellow rounding the corner saw a fight break out down the block. Running up to one of the bystanders, he shouted: "Is this a private fight or can anyone get in it?"
The Internet fight for democracy is a public fight. Come on in!
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99 Comments so far
Show AllBill Moyers was (is) a genuine treasure. It's a national tragedy that he no longer has a program on PBS.
Further, the loss of PBS would be an incalculable loss.
Jim Shea
I thought we lost them years ago, All the commericials I see I assumed Shrub Privatised them!
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~ Disinformation is not unique to the right, of course. Like other journalists, I have been the object of malevolent assaults from the "9/11 truthers" for not reporting their airtight case proving that the Bush administration conspired to bring about the attacks on the World Trade Center.
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Thus, a relative handful of people have enormous power to keep us in the dark. And when those people are in league with their counterparts in powerful corporations, the public is hit with a double whammy. ~
funny how one can claim both sides of an issue...
I comfort myself by remembering that even the best, most intelligent people will simply be wrong sometimes. It doesn't make them evil or stupid, just imperfect like the rest of us. It's Nature's guarantee: Errare humanum est.
Mairead: Well said!
I have thought this way for years, that even the brightest in our world can and frequently are wrong. I have also felt alone in this assumption and so seeing your comment am reminded that I am not alone as I feel at times. These comments and the news found at Common Dreams is the reason I come here. Thank you all. Keep dreaming.
DUBET: Moyers, as it happens, IS a Gemini... sign of the twins. They are quite capable of compartmentalizing beliefs into camps of good and evil. In other words polarity informs their perspectives.
Who among us doesn't have a blind-spot? Ray McGovern's devout obedience to Christianity, in my view, limits his judgment. Lots of very intelligent voices on the Left still can't wrap their minds around the 3rd party premise as viable strategy given the evident sell-out of "both" established political camps.
I've used this reference before, but I find it compelling. When neighbors complained about the stench emanating from Jeffrey Dahmer's apartment, one cop went by to investigate. He was told a pot roast burned in the oven. The cop left it at that...
Often minds will not go beyond what they are prepared to take in. People who currently work for, or have been under government employ, have great difficulty believing that their own "government" could be part of such a knowing travesty (not to mention tragedy). Their minds stop at that "gate."
Just as we may pass through a dinner buffet selecting the food items we wish to ingest and leaving the rest behind, I find that strategy useful when it comes to intellectual leaders. I may not agree with every one of their stands, but that doesn't mean all of them need to be discredited.
Call it a "buffet" style cognitive approach! If any ONE person had ALL the answers, or pieces to this puzzle called life, why would we even need a 2nd point of view? Our human mosaic, to the contrary, grows from the way the facets operate... in concert (and sometimes, cacophony).
Siouxrose and Mairead, My DH who is the most unlikely person to engage in conspiracy theories has looked at the 9/11 stuff and finds it pretty persuasive. I do, too. It strikes me always how many people are not that engaged by it and I cannot really understand it. I do know that when you look at the evidence for a planned demolition (of the towers) and the idea of drone hitting the pentagon and the situations that support it, there is a sense of groundlessness. As in, "Wow, if that's true then....." and your mind just goes to what had to happen to create that reality. And I think, when I do that, "We are in a lot more trouble than we imagine."
I think it is that immensity that gets people.
Mairead, I think your acknowledgement of imperfection is also "right on".
Very well said, Sioux, particularly your observation about how difficult it can be for good people, who have personally spent some of their life on the public payroll, to bring themselves to believe the absolute worst about government (in Moyers' case, to question the official 9/11 Commission narrative).
Having what you term a blind-spot on one issue (even a big one) should not discredit the person in her or his entirety. Bill Moyers on the issue of 9/11 is in some pretty good company. Noam Chomsky, Robert Parry, and others on the left whom I admire share his general aversion to wading into that swamp of despair.
Also, there were those who felt MLK's devout embrace of Christianity (like Ray McGovern's) limited more than it helped to shape his judgment on social justice issues. In retrospect, I think it wasn't a blind-spot at all in Dr. King's case. How else does one get invited to deliver a sermon at Riverside Church in the first place?
I'm with you on the buffet line approach. I'll savor Mr. Moyers' insider morsel about LBJ's hypocrisy over the Freedom of Information act, but leave for another day his false equivalence of the birthers with the 911 truthers.
Peace be with you.
Bill from Saginaw
It seems Ralph Nader has done a good job keeping any belifes to himself, I can admire that. Being brought up not to prostilitize to others!
>^^<
Thank you, Bill. As you know, I look forward to your comments. As for my reference to Christianity... well, one can find an Erik Prince using that religion to justify his profits direct from blood-thirsty, mercenary exploits, and a Martin Luther King who I believe was imbued with the actual Spirit of The Christ. (In other words the identification with Christianity reflects elements that reflect the entire moral spectrum!) Very few human beings reach the high spiritual status that King did, as he was truly ILLUMINATED. Even if he had a mistress, it hardly detracts from the power of his mission and his fierce understanding of the fundamental ONENESS of all living beings.
IOWA: Thank you.
KATZ: The word is beliefs...
MOLLY: Interesting post.
Well, I hope Bill Moyers contacts me. I have things set up and ready to go to repair this breach with his fans. But all I can do is offer.
Martin Luther King Jr didn't make a devout embrace of Christianity. He was born the son of Rev. Martin Luther King, Sr and grew up a preacher's kid. He emulated his father's beliefs and behavior, which defined his basic Christianity. Later studies of moral giants such as Mohandas Gandhi and Schweitzer added complexity, e.g. the Historical Jesus. Rev. Dr. King Jr was invited and accepted the invitation to deliver a sermon at Hammerschmidt Chapel -see Google pictures. That means nothing to you but it was the chapel of my undergraduate alma mater (as well as Reinhold Niebuhr), which at the time MLK spoke had less than 5 black students.
One good way to develop a blind spot on some issue is to receive death threats for expressing your opinion or beliefs. It places you in a psychological trap.
Trylon from Bay City
Thanks for the mature and insightful response, Siouxrose. And I agree with the assessment of Jim Shea that Moyers is a treasure. It's tragic that he was removed or at least inhibited by corporate interests from the public discourse during these transformational times.
Moyers may or may not have a 'blind spot' with regard to the.9/11 crime scene evidence. But we should be realistic. For Moyers to accuse the govt of complicity or even of concealing evidence is a VERY different animal than would be an accusation coming from an average citizen. Moyers is a part of the establishment.
One more thing occurs to me. There is an inherent human predisposition to deny the failings of those to whom we are close. We all tend to circle the wagons when members of the family are under attack.
In my social worker days, I watched abused women and children over and over again protect their abusers.
Moyers has invested his career in government. They are his family in a way and he will have a predisposition to deny the evil that resides there.
It may be that, no matter the depth of our critique, it is difficult to comprehend the depravity of those who currently control our country. The thought of what they are capable of is very disquieting regardless of your politics.
My greatest fear, in this age of soundbites and the endless pursuit of pleasure, that the wisdom of people like Bill Moyers will be lost. This speech reaffirms, once again, that knowledge doesn't come easily, but the rewards of the effort are incalculable.
As always, Bill, well done. Thank you.
Moyers and Greenwald are exposing the same beast--both articles ought to be seen as one overall piece.
Dear Mr. Moyers, Speaking as a sometime fan of yours, I suspect YOU have allowed your opinion to dictate your facts in casting scorn upon "truthers". Not you nor anyone else can find a benign explanation for the manner in which WTC #7 uniformly collapsed into its basement at free-fall speed. It was clearly imploded, demolished by explosives, period! This FACT alone, clearly visible to those with eyes to see, destroys the government's conspiracy theory and their credibility generally. Open your eyes and see, Mr. Moyers, don't let your belief that such a monstrous act is not possible prevent you from seeing what is clearly visible.
Tony Vodvarka
Amen, Tony!
Dear Bill Moyers,
Precisely because my life long admiration for you borders upon affection, and we are similarly moved by the poetry of Jim Autry, I am happy to offer a unique assist to you vis-a-vis the 9/11 donnybrook in which you are embroiled up to your neck. For reference, I'm the guy who was obliged to move from Basking Ridge to Calgary the same day your moving van unloaded in Bernardsville. Where does the time go?
In public I will only say that this unique help would require an initial Sunday drive across I-78 to Easton, Pennsylvania. The personal friend I want you to meet gets home from his Lutheran church service about 12:30 p.m. If I can locate it, I will mail this friend the personal note to me from Friend Friendly. Or - better - I'll send the same documentary proposal material I mailed to Fred at Columbia, and which he returned with a pleasant note. BTW, Tom Yellin also liked it, and discussed it with anchor Peter Jennings (how I miss Peter & the quality of his journalism).
Common Dreams has my email address and, upon your inquiry, I herewith authorize them to share that with you. I owe you a BIG favor for your assistance in my life, and perhaps here is a way to repay that. Up to you.
Trylon
Hmmmm, for some reason this reminded me of my conversation with an investigative journalist I knew. He was also an ex FBI agent. This was back during the Ellsberg Papers time.
I asked him if he was ever censored by his editor?
"No, Steve, I'm not told what to write by anybody. I can turn in any story I wish. However, it does not take long to realize what goes into the papers and what goes into the circular file. Few people want to write for a garbage can, so they learn to write what will be printed. Besides, if too much goes in the garbage, you will soon find yourself looking for another job as they want to make sure you earn your pay."
Thirty odd years later, I'm sure the same thing exists here. Note that a few news "truth tellers" have been fired for what they put in their blogs that does not follow the party line.
I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who wrote, "If I had to chose between a government without a free press, or a free press without government, I would unhesitatingly chose the latter."
forgive me, but I'm on a thing lately regarding opinions...
in this case, Bill Moyers as journalistic treasure...
as I read the things he's done over the years, it strikes me that he's been living at the center of a huge propaganda push for decades...
has he been the lone salmon swimming upstream, even as he raised CBS, advised Johnson, edited Newsday, or broadcast on the toddling PBS?
or is it possible he has been as a Democrat, a fake opponent appearing to battle for the underdog while actually fostering the agenda of the wealthy?
his writing in this article certainly makes this a plausible scenario...
Well, the man surely puts his pants on one leg at a time, but honestly he does some of the finest journalism. IF you haven't go look at the last of the _Bill Moyer's Journal_ pieces. They tended to take you out of what you thought you knew about a topic and made it a little more multi-layered and complex. But he was, and continues to be, relentless on the impact of money on policy making. He was calling attention to this before many and he was right.
So, given his and my relative imperfection, I still think he's a credit and I clicked on this link first of all. He always adds to what you think you notice.
However, the most awful thing for me is that my (KS) delegation IS completely bought and paid for by big money interests and calling my congress people is a complete exercise in futility. This is when I tend to turn to the newer blood in Chris Hedges.
Change in the system will not come from within the sytem.
Like the Egyptians themselves we are faced with finding away to create change in a solidified power structure when the institutions (like the press) that should help us no longer function. From that perspective I have the greatest respect for their courage and their actions.
Why have more than 1,400 professionally-certified architects and engineers signed a petition calling for a new, truly independent and scientific investigation of the events of 9/11/01?
I've looked at the evidence and find it quite compelling - more and more people throughout the world are concluding that official investigations to date have neglected to examine relevant significant evidence.
The truth about 9/11 is immensely important. I ask Bill Moyers, and everyone, please, look at the evidence, at least this much: http://www.ae911truth.org/
I would add Sir Isaac Newton, who discovered the universal law of gravitation, to the list of scientists and others who do not accept the official version for what happened on 9/11. Newton did not conclude that an apple in free fall would hit the ground at virtually the same time as an apple that hit several branches on the way down. Yet, that is precisely what the official 9/11 commission would have us believe. In addition to all the other anomalies that allegedly happened that day, true believers of the official version would also have to believe that the laws of gravity were suspended during the time the twin towers and Building 7 fell to the ground. I think Sir Isaac Newton would have told commission members that they needed to spend a little more time under an apple tree observing the universal laws of gravitation before they submitted their final 9/11 report.
Excellent analogy, Old Guy.
The American electorate has long been conditioned into going into denial against reality. Even the Democrats refuse to admit that Obama is even worse than Herbert Hoover. One Obamabot even told me "No Jenny, we're not in a Great Depression yet but we will be if the Republicans take over" . Who are the party apologists kidding anyway? While other nations protest against the status quo, this nation at the most protests for it be they tea baggers or Obamabots.
P.S.: The term "9/11 truthers" is derogatory. We have a right to know what really happened on 9/11 and I believe that it was an insider's job just like every economic and financial catastrophe that happened in the last 30 years in the USA.
All that's missing is that giant leap to direct decentralized electronic democracy that let's the people, not compromised politicians, make the big decisions by fair and frequent referendums.
That could work but what would really work is getting more people informed about their local elections. Most people will know the November day to vote in every election but how many are aware of existing local elections or the dates for them? There have been suggestions that turnout be improved on all levels. That could work but I also believe that people need to have a direction on their voting. Direct democracy or representative democracy, there will need to be more encouragement on convincing people to think on principle over politics when it comes to voting. Non-political thinking would make more people likely to think straight, stand up for fair elections, and not allow phony polling and circus M$M to trick voters into choosing compromised pols on the basis of who is "winnable".
When people are allowed to make political decisions, they acquire an interest in politics. Find out why direct democracy is endorsed by Chomsky, Zinn, Nader, Gravel, Ellsberg, Ehrenreich and many other luminaries here: http://ni4d.us/en/endorsements
Direct democracy! Great idea! All we have to do before we work out the details on this is to get the reins of power out of the hands of the greedy, murderous scum that have them now.
The IWW (Wobblies) had a maxim that workers with their hands in their pockets are more powerful than any force that may oppress them. But it is a long march to be able to get everyone to put their hands in their pockets at the same time.
Bill Moyers for Mt. Rushmore. Visit Wall Drugs. Free ice water.
Trylon
P.S. One of my fondest treasures is a hand written letter from Fred Friendly, who liked my proposal and outline for a 6-hour documentary series about the US/Canada Border - but he said his plate was too full at age 78. In my opinion his television series [with prominent Americans at round table] on the U.S. Constitution is possibly as informative as the Constitution itself. How lucky we were to have him 82 years.
P.P.S. In 1954 I worked for Alicia Patterson at Newsday - -delivering papers by bicycle; six days a week, one penny per paper was my recompense. This financed both my coin and stamp collections, which I have to this absurd day.
Good article Bill,
As you mentioned the American Caner Society and LBJ's dishonesty, you should look up Judyth Vary Baker's book on the JFK Coup.
She is a witness and helped develop a cancer weapon with the cover of the American Cancer Society to kill Castro.
They ended up shooting JFK instead and the book is called "Me and Lee".
Since I was a told of the plot beforehand too, I was also a witness from a different angle but met some of the same people caught up in it at the time.
More details here.
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=b92ab05236036d800f771623f260ebeb&showtopic=10194
I do like what Bill has written in the past and this is no exception. He will let you know his own failings as he has here, even if he does not realize it.
He set the stage for part of his narrative but saying he was employed in the supreme house of bullshit that white one. He makes it clear, later on, that "He was reporting on research at the University of Michigan, which found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in new stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts were not curing misinformation."
It seems clear that " particularly political partisans" probably covers white house press secretary. So he
has formed his opinions and facts no longer matter.
So when he mentioned 9/11 it must be understood that no facts will change his mind as it had been formed, hammered out of the forge of eternal streams of bullshit in the white house and nary a fact can alter that reality.
I ask Bill that you find a photo of the Pentagon just before the wall collapsed. Plain for all to see is a 15-16 foot hole in the first story. The windows on the second floor are not broken or cracked. Only a few windows are broken on the first floor left and right of that hole. Now Bill we have math and physics to tell us that something is wrong when an object, a commercial aircraft, standing 47 feet tall at the tail and 125 feet wide wing span fits into a 16 foot hole on the first floor without a broken window on the second. Perhaps you think it is like Neo in the Matrix sticking his finger in the mirror, the plane got sucked in without braking any second story windows nor windows left and right of the first floor?
If your conclusions are still the same at the end of the day please consider retiring as we have already filled our air waves with people with large mouths, small brains and the lack of any ability to see the reality of the facts confronting their senses.
I can not deny I have liked you for your written word over many years but to miss the facts that are in your face when 3,000 of your countrymen have burned to death, fallen to their death, crushed to death or where blown to pieces is a bit much for me. How can I think that anything you wrote after that was based on fact? Indeed that is where I stopped reading.
What if Bill is skeptical of your belief... and what if you are wrong?
There is much to read before you stop if you want to learn more.
Some photos of the pentagon here:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1
More skeptics here:
http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/08-06-04/
Jim, the evidence is overwhelming against official story (and that is true at every site), but for Pentagon only:
Hole too small ( a major point)—
remember General Stubblevine from Patriots Question 9/11.com.
Photographs show crumpled, super light metal—like used in Cessna (or Global Hawk)— very incriminating—not Boeing metal— with red, white and bluish/grey paint (to emulate American Airlines colors).
Photos show 8 or more men carrying part of tail or wing tip, obviously very light (graphite), wrapped in blue tarp —but exposing profile of wing tip or tail section (while trying to hide it).
Photos show maybe 100 people examining lawn for tiny pieces of debris (consistent with plane made of fiber which busts into a million pieces).
Insufficient debris: Photos show very little debris, reported as 3 tons roughly, not 80 tons. No big engines, not right debris. [False stories of evaporation of metal---impossible at conventional temperatures, insufficient debris (same as Shankesville).]
Multiple Light poles were blown at base on wrong course (south of Citgo station, instead of north of citgo station), and were undamaged —-totally inconsistent with being hit by a plane. (any impact would have folded poles completely and caused crash immediately and irregularly). Very incriminating evidence of staging.
Policemen who saw plane for fraction of second, saw American Airlines coloration and all windows shut (consistent with appearance had grey dimunitive windows been painted on).
Remember the testimony of fighter pilots about their inability to match such a descending curve—indicating remote control.
Remember the dogs not responding to debris (no bodies).
Remember first reporters (Jamie McIntyrie)—saying no indication of commercial airliner crash.
Remember Rumsfeld and the 2.3 trillion missing from day before, and plane hits very spot where accountants convened to look for missing 2.3 trillion.
Remember government concealment of multiple videotapes— all that would show anything.
Where are the aircraft and the passengers that boarded them that morning?
Do you know what it takes to charge and wire a building to implode into its own footprint? How was that accomplished without a single uninvolved person knowing about it and saying so?
How many people would have to have known about this and participated and kept that secret through all this time?
Is that at all likely?
Very likely, look how long they've supperessed the Pearl Harbor Japanese message intercept records. Roswell, The battle of LA tracking reports, Both Kennedy murders, The 50mile triangle of lightes over Pheonix Az. Christ, they'd cover up the return of Christ given the chance! That part of the NSA works just fine. worth all the billions an their black books!
That's an impressive list containing many of the most coveted conspiracy theories, Richards.
You didn't answer ANY of the questions.
Where are those airplanes, Richards? ... Where are the HUNDREDS of people who boarded those planes?
How does someone carry out a demolition process that requires exposing support structures in a building on each and every floor, sometimes even cutting holes in them, and certainly requires THOUSANDS of feet of wiring and det cord, without ANYone in the (VERY busy) builiding noticing that's happening?
and you REALLY think that of the HUNDREDS of people, maybe THOUSANDS, that it would take to carry out a plan of this magnitude EVERY LAST ONE would remain silent about it?
REALLY?!?!?
How does someone carry out a demolition process that requires exposing support structures in a building on each and every floor, sometimes even cutting holes in them, and certainly requires THOUSANDS of feet of wiring and det cord, without ANYone in the (VERY busy) builiding noticing that's happening?
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Do you care, or even notice what hard-hats are doing? I don't. Especially if they're not in a public area (the backbone of the towers was definitely not in a public area). And if the owner of the buildings was in on it (as, I believe, there is some evidence to support), you can be sure nobody else would care either ("Don't worry about it...they're from an engineering firm I asked to do a structure survey").
As to wiring it up... fifty years ago, where I worked in Germany, we had blocks of old-style slow thermite to use as safe-destroyers if ever the Soviets sent the tanks of the 14th Guards Army over the border early some morning, before the sun began to rise.
There were two ways to set them off, after putting them on top of the safe: light the blue touch paper and run away like a mad thing, or stand well back, shoot them, and run away like a mad thing.
The "run away like a mad thing" was the important part, we were told, because once ignited, the thermite would create a brisk little fireball that would promptly start cutting its way through absolutely everything on its way to the cellars (my office was on the 5th floor) and it would be, they said, a very *good* idea not to still be in the building as all the little fireballs (we had many safes) cut through the steel beams that were maintaining the building in building-shape.
Nowadays, as I understand it, the modern species of thermite and its relatives burn so much hotter and faster that you wouldn't dare, absent a death wish, ignite a gob of it by hand.
The modern way, I believe, is to wrap it around whatever you want to destroy, à la plastique, poke a wee multi-frequency detonator into it (i.e. no wiring or det cord), perhaps goop it over with spray-on insulation to disguise it, and then when the time comes set it off by computer-driven radio from some distance away, the next state being favorite.
check out Marvin Bush, brother of the then-president, and Stratesec\Securacom, the firm providing security for the Towers before the collapse...
there were a number of odd outtages and security protocol breaches prior to the collapse...people are in my place of business frequently doing things with wires in closets and stairwells and elevator shafts that I know nothing about...sounds like there were a number of folks like this busy during those periods in the Towers...
rather than difficult, it could be very easy...
Jack, I do not have all the answers.
The wiring of buildings in NYC was extensive, and if you research enough, you will find multiple pictures of a team that lived and slept in WTC for months, hiding out, doing wiring; and that was in advance of closing down the WTC (shutting off electricity and thus security cameras for extensive wiring the week before the event by many workers allegedly installing fiber optics (and the executives who battery wired for that massive shut down of mainframe computers attest that was the time of wiring).
At different levels of knowledge, thousands of people had some degree of knowledge. Many were involved in the preparation (which was in works for years---with targeted murders ---like John O’Neal, the former FBI superstar who was fired for suspecting Israel behind USS Cole terror or the large group of AIG whistleblowers murdered in the event), many were involved in the event and many in the cover up (including many in mainstream media); and many were forewarned.
Your assumption about secrets is totally false. It has been proven beyond any doubt that one can expose a major crime in one or two leading Amercian cities, and if mainstream media does not repeat it prominently and often, it will never register with the masses of Americans. Unbelievable, but very true. To communicate to the vast majority, a point must be repeated prominently and often. Israel’s attack on USS Liberty was reported prominently in two American cities (I believe Jackson, Miss and San Antonio---and reportedly was mentioned in Newsweek), but for many decades and even to this day it never reached the masses. Other types of secrets, such as those under military orders or threat of death or harm are kept by many. At the bottom lines, American’s problem is lack of an honest media----remember the quote above that Thomas Jefferson would take a free media over any government---it is easy to control public perceptions (including Congress) by controlling mainstream media (because if they don’t report it, it never registers with most). [Ergo, the many witnesses ---including firefighters—whose testimony supported controlled demolition was suppressed to public and to 9/11 Commission.]
Many do not realize that intelligence agencies largest budget items/ investments are in media, and most do not realize the extent of embedded agents in media or the revolving door between such agencies and journalists.
Remember that the event took place simultaneous with five government “drills” which made it super easy to cause suspend normal reactions and defenses.
My suspicion is that the passengers who were not “insiders” (almost all) were murdered on the ground (likely in Cleveland and rural NY at privately owned combo military/civilian airport, and possibly blown up in small remote building). I suspect the planes are still flying, likely not in this country. (The planes at pentagon and Shankesville were largely fiber---witnesses describe small white fiberglass like drone for Shankesville----and I suspect the first hit in NYC was remote controlled old military cargo and suspect second was military refueling jet, and I suspect Global Hawk used at Pentagon).
Here's my last comment on this: I have a degree in mental health. I worked in psychiatric emergency rooms ... walk-ins.
If you came to my office and told me a tale of the government of the United States secretly plotting to fly dummy planes into buidings as cover to demolish them, killing a couple of thousand on the spot, and taking the passengers who had boarded the REAL planes out and murdering them in the hundreds ...
I'd be on the phone with the duty doctor to give you a safe place to rest.
and you'd get one.
Jack:
Those who planned and engineered this were rogue elements who used their positions in government; murderous traitors. [Obviously, Cheney and neocons, including Rumsfeld, have a story, as does GWB—but those stories are not fully public as yet—in my opinion, and the role of intelligence agencies is to preserve “deniability” of the high officials----so the first statement still remains true, even if one suspects knowledge before and/or after the event.]
Upon research, each element/perspective of the event has a very large incriminating story.
As a sequel to my comment on “secrets”, I would like to relay a hypothetical that I believe accurately portrays the power of special interests over the media. I believe that a certain group or foreign nation could (hypothetically) machine gun and murder a thousand (1000) girl scouts and nuns of the US Capital steps in broad daylight in front of ten thousand (10,000) witnesses, and news of that adverse crime would never reach the masses of American people. Let that sink in awhile. Their power to keep adverse news out of mainstream media and to minimize its publication to the point that it will not register is absolute, and it has many levers. [Broader than that, certain facts adverse to the elite just cannot be published in the USA, certainly not in any outlet with any distribution and certainly not without great effort, and there are cases where books cannot be published, even when the costs are tendered in cash up front.]
Keep in mind that:
a) Hundreds of sailors on USS Liberty were wounded, many seriously, and they had thousands in their concerned families, but that news never leaded to masses.
b) Polls at different times show that huge percentages of the American people (in truth, generally many of the best educated and a huge percentage of the critical independent thinkers) do not believe the 9/11 official story. Most often that has been a third (33%) or more of the American people and at times, up to 87% when the question was limited to just falsehood in official story, as opposed to complicity within government.
Burying one’s head in the sand yields unchecked robbery, murder and servitude and loss of freedom and country for your progeny. Having the courage to investigate and face truth leads to preservation of the country and restoration of funds and freedoms stolen. Cowardice may look easy, but it is insane and affirms total destruction and destitution. Thanks for reading my thoughts.
I don't debate Trutherphobes, but only those already inclined to rationalize a complacent and credulous belief in the Official "Nineteen Lone-Nuts and an Islamofascist Supervillain" Story would find your collection of straw-man rebuttals valid, much less impressive.
You obviously have no insight, nor open-minded curiosity, about how clandestine actors and operations with drastic, large-scale effects can be carried out in plain sight-- precisely because of the popular and pervasive occluded "see no evil; hear no evil; speak no evil" attitude that resists troubling and unsettling perceptions in the first place.
And your Nurse Ratched appeal-to-authority "coup de grace"-- I'm a mental health professional and know madness when I see it-- is just the kind of projection that evidences defense mechanisms gone wild.
And that's MY last comment.
Do they have internet in the asylum?
That must be you then.
Thank You Very Much.
That's comforting. Most of the left-wingnuts who purport to be mental health experts are fans of de-institutionalizing the crazy in the mistaken belief that they'll continue to take their meds and be good boys and girls, until they go off their meds, hear the voices again and start pushing people in front of subway trains.
Why are you so angry and bitter? Did you not get a state job or something? Get fired? Why the hatred and vitriol against public employees? You need professional help. As I said on another article to you, you would not have health insurance or a pension if it were not for unions! You would not have paid vacations, paid sick leave, unemployment insurance, paid holidays, workplace safety, worker's compensation, etc., without unions! Oh and subway trains often beat the living crap out of gas guzzlers.
I remember that I saw one video (parking lot cam with yellow access column at right foreground) of the pentagon false flag.
The object that was visible only on two frames (speed) was a cruise missile. A longitudinal cylindrical object. There was a better video from a slightly different angle, but that's no longer available. Unfortunately in 2001 my video recording capabilities were like zero.
Here is a different one. Just go to 00:24 sec and look at the right edge. For one frame you can see it here, too. Cylindrical, cruise missile style object, horizontally parallel to the ground. That is not an airplane. Even on this rather low quality vid you can see clearly the object that is to home in on the pentagon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAaP4Z3zls8
The Big Lie. Invented and exported by Nazis for Nazis.