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Technorati'Freedom Is Not Free': No More of That Fortune-Cookie Bunk
It's one of those Orwellian phrases that re-emerged out of 9/11 mania: "Freedom is not free." Would its thumpers be willing to apply the same verdict to the free market, now that capitalism is capsizing and gasping for us, taxpayers, to bail it out? I doubt it. To do so would assume that we'd have learned to see past conservative ideology's doublespeak since the 1980s, when government became the free market's co-signer and freedom itself, far from being costly, was cheapened to a slogan in whose name sacrifice at home was for fools and war abroad freedom's calling card.
The dogmatic negative at the heart of "freedom isn't free" should have been a clue. The phrase has been attributed to Dean Rusk, secretary of state under John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson, though The New York Times used it in a small headline in 1945 to describe an American cemetery in Normandy. Gen. Matthew Ridgway, Army Chief of Staff in 1953, used it to define freedom as the difference between those who "torture their captives" and "those to whom the individual and his individual rights are sacred."
But the phrase really took off as a national verbal tick after 2001. George and Laura Bush and Dick Cheney have used the phrase at least nine times since 2001. For understandable reasons, they never defined it the way Gen. Ridgway did. They never defined it at all.
Ridgway's nuances aside, the phrase is fortune-cookie bunk anyway. Of course, freedom is free, and self-evidently so. Unless Thomas Jefferson had it wrong in the Declaration of Independence, freedom is one of the "unalienable rights." It's not a privilege. You're born with it. If you're in an unfree country, as most people are, you're owed it.
If you're in a free country, by all means, count your blessings, but you're entitled to your freedom. You shouldn't have to justify it, qualify it, tailor it to someone else's idea of it (unless you live in a homeowners association) let alone buy it, as countless slaves in this country had to.
Unless you infringe on somebody else's freedom, it's not even conditional. Those who make conditions are the chain-wielders who dangle freedom by the reins of its antonyms. They're those to whom "freedom is not free," by which they mean to say -- you're not.
Unquestionably, the way the phrase may have been intended -- the way Martin Luther King Jr. supposedly said it when he was hauled off to jail in Birmingham, the way it's inscribed on the Korean War Veterans Memorial in Washington, D.C. -- is to point out that sometimes there's a price to pay to preserve what we cherish or to claim what we're owed.
Those soldiers in Normandy's sands died protecting civilization. King and countless civil rights activists died claiming the right they'd been denied for three centuries. A price was paid for freedom's sake, but never to diminish the value of freedom itself, let alone to use freedom to diminish that of others.
Which brings us to the more recent "freedom isn't free" mentality. What did Bush mean when he used the phrase, just seven weeks after the 9/11 attacks, at a high school in Maryland as he spoke of "our commitment to freedom"? What sacrifices did he have in mind, sacrifices the nation was willing to make on a grand scale? None.
Bush had one practical suggestion after 9/11: Shop. He had one policy goal: tax cuts, which he got through Congress in 2001, 2003 and 2004, making the price of freedom, which Bush confuses with the price of money, much cheaper. And he launched three full-blown wars: "terror," Afghanistan, Iraq.
Upward of 100,000 Afghans and Iraqis are dead. So are 5,467 American and allied troops.
Iraq wasn't a failed state in 2003. It is now, with neighbor Iran controlling its fate more than the United States. Afghanistan was a failed state in 2001. It still is, with neighbor Pakistan failing right along, but with nukes in its arsenals and Taliban militants twiddling their beards in the launchers' shadows. Soldiers' lives aside, Americans were asked to make not one sacrifice. They were told that "freedom" was a handout, at least in so far as it dovetailed with free market idolatry: lower taxes, cheap money and housing as a Ponzi scheme for all.
It worked fine. Until it didn't. Now, those who got us here, including that pair of Republican frauds posing as a president and would-be president, have the guile to take no responsibility themselves, to ask us for the favor of our trillion, ask us for our trust, and to add insult to depression, our vote. I bet the national debt that before this comedy of horrors is over, one of them will blurt it out once more, like a narcotic to our rage: Freedom isn't free. And it'll probably work.
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Show AllThere is no such thing as freedom. Saying "staying true" to "Mother Earth" is just a way of saying there is/was no freedom from the physical laws of this planet. We are slaves to the needs of our own bodies. The Native Americans (as in most tribal communities) also fought each other, they were not free from war, nor from the exploitation of other stronger tribal peoples. Human beings have never been free, it is a conscious decision we must make.
For a very long time now I have had BIG problems with this "Freedom isn't free" crap. Of course freedom is free. The very ROOT word of "freedom" is free". Saying "freedom isn't free" is like saying a ham sandwich isn't made of ham.
Perhaps "Freedom" is an outmoded concept that has been far too misused for to long to have any meaning. We are never free, we will always be chained to something air, food and water to name three simple things we can only be free from with our demise.
Animals are not free. Even the animals before humans (as they are still) were at the mercy of other animals, they were not/are not free. Not free from fear not free from strife, not free from ending up as somebody else's dinner.
We are born in to families/communities and are instantly "not free". We have social and moral obligations that if we don't learn to uphold will curtail our freedom. The greatest freedom comes from learning to live together peacefully, and we as humans are in a unique position to choose this as conscious beings.
Capitalism, in its rawest form, is an extension of the law of the jungle, those with the power will control (or eat) those without. Freedom does not, or should not mean, that we have the power to do whatever we want without consequences, that we should be allowed to "eat" those with less power than ourselves(unless you're a Libertarian, perhaps).
IMO, this is why the concept of "Free-markets" fail, they are only free to those in power, someone is always footing the bill, just like in nature someone is always someone else's lunch.
Perhaps we need to stop talking about Freedom, and focus and equality and justice. They are not free, nor should they be, they take hard work and commitment to principles we all agree on. Freedom has become an empty concept, and a lousy motto to boot.
Freedom is an abstract term. There are some things one wants to be free and some things to be restricted or at least moderated. I hate to say this but as pointed out by another poster, only the Native Americans actually understood it inside and out. Respect for Mother Earth and not being individualist actually ensured their freedom. This country is too individualist and selfish to understand the meaning. In all of the history of the USA, the only time people really understood freedom was the Great Depression because back then people had little choice but to actually help one another and unite. Until this happens, freedom is going going GONE.
Hunter gatherer tribes lived all over the Earth. Why would you think that only Native Americans were free?
Any place where there was no wealth accumulation and everyone was equally capable of feeding themselves, then there was freedom.
If the US had a DRAFT in 2002, there would not have been an invasion of Iraq. No, the evil cowards like Cheney and Feith and Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz would not have risked the chance that their children would have to go and place their lives on the line. The unnecessary war of choice was not free for average Americans, but it was free for the NeoCons.
Freedom should be free...if we lived in a free world, which we do not.
There may be some people who are still free, living as yet undiscovered in jungle areas of the world, but once they are discovered they are brutalised into not being free anymore.
Freedom is a concept we all understand yet most of us can not realise it as most are quite happy to live under governmental control.
This is actually an oxymoron as the governments are controlled by a ruling elite who dictate their policies onto bought politicians. The only politicians who actually acquire a high level of power are bought or bribed into towing to the ruling elite will.
Wars have been created to keep all involved in them living in fear. A population in fear is a population under control and one that will accept all restrictions. For those of the aggressor side, their sons and daughters and loved ones are sent to the other side of the world not knowing if they will ever see them again, for those directly involved in the occupied state live in fear that they may never see the Sun rise again. All the time each other through vile propaganda dehumanises the other and hatred is the only outcome, with hatred there can never be peace and fear will only increase.
It doesn't matter what 'system' is in place, be it socialism, communism or capitalism they are all anti-freedom. They are all controlled by the ruling elite and we are given illusions that we are free, which most of us through not thinking or falling for things such as 'the joys of capitalism' (which promotes greed and shitting on our brothers and sisters) really do believe that they are free.
The only way forward is a truly equal society, one with no leaders and ruling elite.
Why do you think the media always attack anarchists?
We can only be free once we take control of our own lives and destinies.
The only way peace can be achieved is an equal society where everyone, no matter what they do is treated the same and has the same entitlements, no job is more worthy than another, no man or woman is better than another.
We can change the world if we think out of the box which we are at the moment held inside and take control of our own lives and not rely on others to do as they will always (as they always have) let us down.
peace and love
all is illusion - there is no government.
I wrote about this misused slogan last Armistice Day.
"Actually, of course, freedom is free. It is the natural condition of humans, and people lived without oppression for most of human history. Even today, there are tribes left who live without government, taxes, prisons or the military.
It's oppression that is expensive. Having troops in 130 countries, producing and storing weapons of mass destruction, researching endless new ways to kill people, invading other countries, paying for soldiers and their dependents and their health care (uh, sort of) and their retirement -- it's all very expensive.
This whole manufactured idolatry of the military is fabricated by, and functions for, the ruling class. It's amazing that right wing crazies who despise big government and hate taxes, fall right into line when it comes to worshipping the oppressive arm of that government. And left wing peaceniks have been cowed into professing a love for the troops, but not their mission. As a Star Wars fan, I can't imagine scorning the Empire, but supporting the Death Star and the storm troopers."
http://wagelaborer.blogspot.com/2007/11/freedom-isnt-free.html
I think this is a case of denying the truth of the message because of the ...hmmm... "quality" of the messenger. Oppressors appropriate the language and idioms that will allow and encourage the people to agree to their agenda. Do you think that the Republican Party is REALLY the party of Christ? Or that they REALLY are concerned about the average citizen? Example: the "inheritance tax" is re-christened as the "death tax" and demonized as an assault on the ability of the average person to leave their earnings to their loved ones. They very conveniently leave out what is, in my opinion, the most salient fact: it doesn't kick in unless the estate is worth $3,000,000 or more!
If freedom were free, what the hell are organizations like the ACLU in existence for? The EFF? No, freedom is paid for by the struggles of those who strive to protect it. To deny the price paid is to spit in the face of those who brought you things like "the Miranda warnings" and the "civil rights movement" and "the bill of rights" and even the end of slavery.
Freedom is free? Ask Patrick Henry if you can get him to stop doing 78rpm in his grave!
I believe most Americans are mentally imprisoned by American capitalistic culture. Yet when asked what is most sacred about America, and it is statistically proven, 90 percent of Americans will say our freedom.
Maybe they mean our freedom to exploit, our freedom to wage war, our freedom to ignore the plight of our neighbor.
America has lost its' soul.
Freedom is Free.
For example Native Americans were once Free at no cost other than the requirement that they stay true to themselves and Mother Earth.
It is depriving others and ourselves of Liberty and Life that is so costly.
And the price of decieving ourselves about this process is the death of our spirit as a Nation and our decline and fall as an Empire.
Freedom was Free.
Until this country started taking the Freedom of others.
" Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose..." Chris Christopherson from: Me an' Bobbi McCain.
By the way, I strongly recommend the book "Whose Freedom?" by George Lakoff. There's a lot to learn alright.
Published on Tuesday, July 4, 2006 by the Boston Globe
Understanding the Meaning of Freedom
by George Lakoff
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0704-29.htm
Cancel Christmas.
I wouldn't go that far. Sure, some have abused it but at least let the kiddies have a little fun for the winter.
And the "The War on Terrorism" is The War on Freedom. Let's get the words right. Its not 1984 anymore.
We're not free. We're all slaves to corporate dominance and materialistic preeminence. Buy, buy, buy, bye-bye.
Don't you think that in a truly free society that Capitalism is the only system that makes sense?....
and Corproations are what give most of us such a high standard of living...There are no Mom and Pop Auto or Television Manufacturers and it seems to me we outsourced our industrial manufacturing base to please the environmental movement
It seems to you that we outsourced our industrial manufacturing base to please the environmental movement?
Ask yourself why it "seems to you" that the environmental movement, which believes that the Earth is a closed garage, would think it's OK to pollute the Earth somewhere other than the US?
Water and air move around the world and environmentalists do not want to dump pollution anywhere.
Who, then, benefits from moving industrial production from a country with unionized workers making $25/hour to a country where workers make $25/month?
And with the money they saved, who then bought up media to push their fascist messages?
And you then listen to the corporate spin, internalize it, and pass it off as some sort of personal observation.
I think this kind of mentality is sort of restricted to this black and white world where our only options are socialism/communism or capitalism. Socialism and communism didn't live up to its promise in much of the world, and we're left with capitalism as the only democratic system.
I think this is just plain silly. It implies that every form of social organization that could exist has taken the form of a couple worldviews. It's Us vs Them. So coldwar yesterday.
We have the ability to take what is good about capitalism and apply it to new outlooks on true-cost economics, direct-democracy, and autonomous communities.
There is no reason to pretend we are not creative human beings capable of inventing something better than the current system. The death of communism was not the death of human ingenuity. It's better to try new things, fail, learn, and propose something new, then stick to the status quo just because it's comfortable and affords you a good standard of living (only made possible through the exploitation of most of the world's population by Neoliberal corporate interests).
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" -Epicurus
"Don't you think that in a truly free society that Capitalism is the only system that makes sense?...."
First of all, the so-called "capitalism" that exists in this country is RIGGED. We can start out with oil. Currently, the only reason the current market dubbed "free" is tied to petroleum is because Cannabis isn't allowed to compete with petroleum. The Big Oil boys knew that the people's market wouldn't make them rich so they had to RIG the market. It is no coincidence that America desperately fights resource wars for oil all the while outlawing the very same plant Cannabis by badmouthing it as somehow "dangerous". The same kind of thing happened when factory farms started coming up. They knew they couldn't win fair and square so they had to bribe the politicians in both parties to persecute small/family farmers. Please tell me why Big Brother (NAIS at least of it) wants to persecute the small/family farms that are left with RFIDs but give corporate factory farms a "free" pass despite the fact that meat recalls have been traced to corn-fed animals in factory farms while it has been proven that grass-fed animals not only provide healthy meat and diary in the end but avoid the diseases. And here's another one. The FDA with the help of the lobbyists allowed high fructose corn syrup and aspartame into the market despite the fact that tests pointed to potential health hazards and yet this same FDA went out of its way to ban Stevia, later partially overturned the ban but called it "dietary supplement only", despite all tests showing that stevia is not dangerous at all. If STEVIA were actually allowed to compete in the market, aspartame and high fructose corn syrup wouldn't be dominant and obesity wouldn't be so bad. Plus, since aspartame, high fructose corn syrup, and corn-fed meat and diary burn loads of crude oil compared to the natural alternatives I mentioned, it's no wonder Big Oil and its cronies want to screw the country the way it has done for decades.
If you want to call rigging the market "capitalism", be my guest. But let's face it. FDR saved capitalism from total collapse by putting socialism first and foremost. Moreover, the current "capitalism" relies on borrowed money and borrowed time I might add. If capitalism actually existed, Wall $treet wouldn't be getting bailed out by government. Like Main Street, Wall $treet would have to suffer. Again, since Wall $treet couldn't play it fair and square with Main Street, they CHEATED by having the government secretly help them. Socialism for Wall $treet, RIGGED "capitalism" for Main Street was the result and still exists.
"There are no Mom and Pop Auto or Television Manufacturers and it seems to me we outsourced our industrial manufacturing base to please the environmental movement"
They existed until the bad corporations, not the good ones, went out of their ways to bribe both parties into making it easier for them to crush the small mom and pop stores. Sure, it was bad enough that Walmart and similar scumbags wanted to wipe out the competition by going "cheap" and putting quantity over quality and yes, they did seduce a lot of people into it and made life in the Mom and Pop stores realm a living hell. However, without "free" trade, "deregulation", land privatization and misuse of eminent domain laws, the bad corporations wouldn't have won and they would have been forced to compete fair and square.
Thanks to the upcoming PEAK OIL along with meltdowns on Wall $treet with more to come and the foreign policy failures hitting us back both on trade and wars, the currently RIGGED "capitalism" won't be able to hold out.
"the only reason the current market dubbed "free" is tied to petroleum is because Cannabis isn't allowed to compete with petroleum"
Smiling as I read that because its definitely true...
When you say Petroleum is rigged you are referring to OPEC, I assume?....
The way I see it we used to be the Industrial Giant of the World, but we gave that up to become a service related economy ...Overpaid CEO's (and Athletes and Celebrities) Unions (not for existing but going to far) Illegal Immigration (keeping wages low) Corrupt Politicians (Both R and D) are just symptons of the disease...they tell me Republics aren't conquered...they rot and fall from within
I believe I'm seeing the signs...there is probably more that we would agree on than not but I don't think Obama is going to make things better...only worsen them
I think a Congressional Enema would be a great start
Congressional Enema?
On your question of "When you say Petroleum is rigged you are referring to OPEC, I assume?...."
It's more than OPEC although yes that's part of it. As I understand, just about everything is made out of fossil fuels be it plastics, most clothing, everything associated with autos, electronics, medicine, you name it.
http://reenergizekc.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/petroleumproductslist.pdf
Now while it is true that hempseed oil could be used to replace crude oil in manufacturing most everything, what has to happen is we're going to have to put product quality over quantity somewhere and find some way to reward conservation and reusability. It's hard for me to say it but you get the idea.
P.S.: I have come across a few interesting technologies that just might be able to artificially produce light sweet crude oil though I doubt that it would satisfy the current demands for light sweet crude. Who knows?
Congressional Enema means throw them all out and start over....
If you do a google search on "renewable petroleum", you might come across some interesting results. It appears that there are some labs trying to work out the ideas for renewable petroleum. I don't know how well it would work on a large scale especially when it comes to meeting the high demands for oil but it might work. I am also assuming that it will be difficult to produce enough to trade with other countries so I wouldn't hold my breath on that yet.
I will do that
I think the CNG and Hydrogen Fuel Cells look promising
Windpower probably isn't going to work because of the NIMBY Problems...
but I think drilling and Nuclear help....
I say do it all...don't put our eggs in one basket again
The free nuclear power from the 1950's wasn't free was it?
So you want 150 billion dollars (in current 2008 dollars!) worth of energy eggs spent on 30+ new nuclear power plants over the next 20 years ($+)? With utility rate payers doing the pre-financing of the construction cost?
Talk about a NIMBY issue based just on increased rates alone! LOL!
You seem against doing stupid things that haven't worked in the past. For instance commercial nuclear power plants...but you want to bring them back for a second show....really?
Private enterprise can't afford it!
Oh I see, you must be all for it as long as the government provides a full "bail-out" of the mining to the waste disposal of the nuclear fuel cycle! And the government covers the insurance of accidents when... not if... they happen. And that the government covers what ever extra unforseen cost that "pops" up during ANY of the build up.
A business deal only a multi-national corporate fascist could love!
Governments do not grant rights.
They can only take them away.
If we let them.
you are entitled to you Freedom...but its not guarenteed...
Somebody has to defend it
Siouxrose (Love your name by the way) ...I think you were asking me about the Somali Pirates that hijacked the Iranian Ship and became deathly ill?
http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953
A tense standoff has developed in waters off Somalia over an Iranian merchant ship laden with a mysterious cargo that was hijacked by pirates.
Somali pirates suffered skin burns, lost hair and fell gravely ill “within days” of boarding the MV Iran Deyanat. Some of them died.
Andrew Mwangura, the director of the East African Seafarers’ Assistance Programme, told the Sunday Times: “We don’t know exactly how many, but the information that I am getting is that some of them had died. There is something very wrong about that ship.”
The vessel’s declared cargo consists of “minerals” and “industrial products”. But officials involved in negotiations over the ship are convinced that it was sailing for Eritrea to deliver small arms and chemical weapons to Somalia’s Islamist rebels
I don't see how the US is defending its freedom by desperately fighting resource wars for oil and bombing Big Brother Acts falsely named "Patriot" Acts against the American people. So far these past 8 years, freedom has eroded, the Constitution has been trashed, and yet Al Quaida is still getting stronger. If you really want to defend freedom, get rid of the Big Brother Acts I and II and abolish the FBI, CIA, DEA, FCC, NSA, etc ... Government that policies the least governs the best. All this reckless war spending and freedom killing is turning this country into a falling Rome faster than it could have been imagined.
We are indirectly fighting for Oil...we do have to keep that part of the World open as long as we are going to need oil and aren't willing to use our own...
I think 20 years from now oil will have limited uses but the technology isn't there just yet...
so hang on cuz its probably going to be a wild ride from here on out
If you do a google search on "renewable petroleum", you might come across some interesting results. It appears that there are some labs trying to work out the ideas for renewable petroleum. I don't know how well it would work on a large scale especially when it comes to meeting the high demands for oil but it might work. I am also assuming that it will be difficult to produce enough to trade with other countries so I wouldn't hold my breath on that yet.
"Freedom is not free."
Poor fella...this was around long before 9/11. It's also true. Anyone that doesn't know it is simply callow. And it has nothing to do with George Bush.
As far as his spin on the bail out, the "free market" blah, blah.....this is news?
Blather
You totally missed Mr. Traitam's point.
How can something that is an inalineable property that all sentient beings are born with be anything but free? For example, would we ever describe the fortuitous evolution of sentience in the universe as something that "isn't free"? Do we have to kill and die for E=hv or F=ma?
And, the very word "freedom" when used in the political/economic sense, is an incredibly slippery one. Cicero said it best: "freedom is participation in power". Or ultimately, freedom IS power, which in a capitalist system means "freedom is money" - the more you have, the freer you are. So from the "cold war" to now, when someone asked us to kill and die for "freedom", they rally meant that they wanted us to kill and die for their money.
Not a single one of the bogymen since 1950 that my capitalist bosses said wanted to take away my "freedom" - the Soviet government, the Vietnamese NLF, Cuba, the Sandisnstas, the PLO, Nasser and the pan-Arab socialist movement, Salvador Allende, the ANC, the FMLN, the Venezuelan Bolivarian movement, MAS/President Morales in Bolivia, Hamas, Hizballah, the government of Iran, etc.. etc ad nauseum, were ever a threat to my freedom in any way - in many cases, they were quite the opposite. The fear of the example of 1917 made the capitalists quite friendly to unions from the 1950 through the 1970's - a period when the US working man was freer in terms of economic power than would ever be once the "freedom isn't free" people came into power in 1980.
freedom is not free...
who's freedom? mine, yours, a bankers an iraqis?
orwellian perhaps...not doublespeak, just nonspeak. it could mean anything.
as for not being asked to make sacrifices...well this is correct.
we were not asked or consulted. they, however, were deferred and are coming.
to quote a modern intellectual titan, mr. t, "pain fool". it's not too far over the horizon and coming home to roost.
Thank you, lastdregs- "not doublespeak, just nonspeak. it could mean anything."
That is exactly right. The way that the wrong/right bandies about the word "liberty" has eliminated any reality from that abused word, too.
old goat, damn well put, damn well...
BillofRights
People are willing to kill to justify their investment of time and psychic energy in the system that spouts "Freedom is not free". This is a major underpinning of the psyche that quietly sweeps history of genocide past and present under the fabric of the story line thick as a rug.
Racism is the reflection of self at the center of a fearful goal oriented universe that loses the journey lived every day of making small choices and when those are not attended to the choices become monumental. By the same token a monument need not perpetuate the aversion to the responsibility of making those small choices - that are moral in the basic sense- every minute of every day. You don't get a pile of money for it - you get sustainability of the whole.
Another myth is the perspective of the "greater good" that retains the deposit of us and them - perpetuating the fabric of "manifest destiny" monoculture. Legitimate greater good does not engage a scapegoat mechanism of organized murder, it recognizes restraint rather than sacrifice, dignity rather than pride.
This article and the one posted by Robert Parry both attempt to downplay the actual numbers of Iraqis and Afghanis killed by U.S. aggression in the last seven years. Parry says hundreds of thousands, Tristam says a hundred thousand. Numberous global sources cite more than a million. Neither article mentions the millions forced into exile. Already, the stalwarts of "soft" imperialism are beginning to indulge in apologetics and distortion of the facts in defense of their side of the aisle.
I deal with kids that have been Stop Lossed X 7, Resistors like Mathis Chiroux that stay right here and tell them, "No, I will not fight in a Sovereign Nation you illegally invaded, I did my bid, this is not a part of any Military contract, NO."
We all know there has been 1.3MN civilians murdered, 4,176 Troops[DoD], so it is closer to 10,000]murdered, 2.3MN Iraqis internally displaced, over 2MN externally displaced, we know, we know. I no longer give a shit what they say the #'s are, 1 is too many isn't it? I know the other side of the aisle and Mr. Tristam is not of that ilk, after I screamed into Tancredos answering machine, in CO, because the one in the Rayburn was full, he ranted on the House floor forever about every vile thing you could make up about Muslims, I shreiked, "I am a Muslim, I am not a Terrorist, YOU and the other side of the aisle along with the name I shall not speak that currently occupies 1600 are the TERRORISTS!!!" Speaking vile terms , how we were going to blow us up, I do not think I would blow ME up, I wrapped it up asking how someone that stupid could have been elected, I said I suppose your constituents are dumbed down as far as you. So we do what we do, well I know what I do, I fight every F$$KING minute of every hour of every day of every week of every month of every year. It is what it is, you go stop them okay? Piss on them.
VFP
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