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How Wall Street Can Bail Itself Out Without Destroying The Dollar
For Grover "Drown Government In The Bathtub" Norquist, this bailout deal will work out very well. At a proposed cost of $4,780 per taxpayer, it'll further the David Stockman strategy of so indebting us that the next president won't have the luxury of even thinking of new social spending (expanding health care, social security, education, infrastructure, etc.); taxes will even have to be raised just to pay for the bailout. It'll debase our currency, driving up commodity prices and interest rates, which will benefit the Investor Class while further impoverishing the pesky Middle Class, rendering them less prone to protest (because they're so busy working trying to pay off their debt). It'll create stagflation for at least the next half decade, which can be blamed on Democrats who currently control Congress and, should Obama be elected, be blamed on him.
But there's another way: Create an agency to fund the bailout, loan that agency the money from the treasury, and then have that agency tax Wall Street to pay us (the treasury) back.
It's been done before, and has several benefits.
In the United Kingdom, for example, whenever you buy or sell a share of stock (or a credit swap or a derivative, or any other activity of that sort) you pay a small tax on the transaction. We did the same thing here in the US from 1914 to 1966 (and, before that, we did it to finance the Spanish American War and the Civil War).
For us, this Securities Turnover Excise Tax (STET) was a revenue source. For example, if we were to instate a .25 percent STET (tax) on every stock, swap, derivitive, or other trade today, it would produce - in its first year - around $150 billion in revenue. Wall Street would be generating the money to fund its own bailout. (For comparison, as best I can determine, the UK's STET is .25 percent, and Taiwan just dropped theirs from .60 to .30 percent.)
But there are other benefits.
As John Maynard Keynes pointed out in his seminal economics tome, The General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money in 1936, such a securities transaction tax would have the effect of "mitigating the predominance of speculation over enterprise."
In other words, it would tamp down toxic speculation, while encouraging healthy investment. The reason is pretty straightforward: When there's no cost to trading, there's no cost to gambling. The current system is like going to a casino where the house never takes anything; a gambler's paradise. Without costs to the transaction, people of large means are encourage to speculate - to, for example, buy a million shares of a particular stock over a day or two purely with the goal of driving up the stock's price (because everybody else sees all the buying activity and thinks they should jump onto the bandwagon) so three days down the road they can sell all their stock at a profit and get out before it collapses as the result of their sale. (We ironically call the outcome of this "market volatility.")
Investment, on the other hand, is what happens when people buy stock because they believe the company has an underlying value. They're expecting the value will increase over time because the company has a good product or service and good management. Investment stabilizes markets, makes stock prices reflect real company values, and helps small investors securely build value over time.
Historically, from the founding of our country until the last century, most people invested rather than speculated. When rules limiting speculation were cut during the first big Republican deregulation binge during the administrations of Warren Harding, Calvin Coolidge, and Herbert Hoover (1921-1933), it created a speculative fever that led directly to the housing bubble of the early 20s (which started in Florida, where property values were going up as much as 70 percent per year, and then spread nationwide, only to burst nationally starting in 1927 as housing values began to collapse), then the falling housing market popped the stock market bubble and produced the great stock market crash of 1929. That speculation aggregated enormous wealth in a very few hands, crashed the housing and stock markets, and produced the Republican Great Depression of 1930-1942.
Franklin D. Roosevelt, as part of the New Deal, put into place a series of rules to discourage speculation and promote investment, including maintaining - and doubling - the Securities Transaction Excise Tax. Other countries followed our lead, and the UK, France, Japan, Germany, Italy, Greece, Australia, France, China, Chile, Malaysia, India, Austria, and Belgium have all had or have STETs.
Perhaps the most important benefit of immediately re-instituting a STET in the USA, however, isn't that it would raise enough money to bail out the banks and billionaires (and after that crisis is covered, could pay for a national health care system), or that it would encourage investment and calm down markets. Those are all strong benefits, and absent the current Republican Administration bailout proposal would stand-alone strongly.
But the Republican Bush Administration is currently suggesting that we borrow $700 billion (or more) from China and Saudi Arabia and other countries and investors, add that to our national debt, and repay it with interest (making the actual cost over the next 20 years over $1.4 trillion). This is what Republican Herbert Hoover tried in 1931 when he first created the Reconstruction Finance Corporation (later totally reinvented by FDR) to bail out the banks in 1931. Hoover's RFC bailed out the bankers, paid off huge salaries in the banking and investment world, bought him a few months (maybe that's the real goal of the Bush/McCain Republicans now - just hold things together until after the elections), but ultimately led to the failure within two years of virtually all the banks in the United States. The bailout failed.
Similarly, in 1998 the Japanese banks were facing a serious crisis of liquidity as the result of a bursting housing bubble in that country. The Japanese government used public funds to re-float a number of large banks that year, and it similarly failed. In one example out of dozens, in 1998 135 billion Yen were given from public tax funds to Ashikaga Financial Group, but the company limped along for a few years and in November of 2003 collapsed again, requiring a second infusion of a trillion yen from public coffers. And, as the BBC reported in a 30 November 2003 article ("Japan Bank Bail-Out 'A One-Off'"): "But experts warn that Ashikaga could be just the tip of the iceberg." Professor of Finance at Tokyo University Takehisa Hayashi said, "It will come as no surprise if we see another Ashikaga case in the near future." And they did.
Japan continues to limp along, as a result of bailing out banks rather than fixing structural problems. (At least the Japanese had enough savings to use their own money, instead of debt, to bail out their banks.)
So bailouts don't work, and never have. And they also have the side effects of damaging a nation's credit, sucking up its taxpayers resources, and (when done with debt) weakening its currency.
So let's go back to what we know works. After Hoover's 1931 bailout of the banks failed, FDR did a cold reboot of the entire system, putting into place strong rules to prevent speculative abuse. And he doubled the STET tax, both producing revenue that more than funded the Securities and Exchange Commission and further prevented a repeat of the speculative bubble of the 1920s that led directly to the Republican Great Depression.
We've done it before. We financed the Spanish American War and partially financed the Civil War, WWI, and WWII with STETs. We stabilized our stock market with a STET from the mid-30s to 1966, and other nations are doing it today. It's time to do it again, this time using the STET so tax Wall Street can pay for its own bailout.
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Show AllIt's shameful that political calculus involves damaging or destroying a class of citizens for the benefit of another class. Our country is moving towards militarizing law enforcement in order to suppress the people being marginalized in order to enforce this treachorous governance. We should be moving back to egalitarianism, but instead are moving towards fascism.
I'm interested in CD readers ideas as to what needs to be emphasized the most heavily to initiate movement AWAY from the trend to fascism in the US. It's assumed that all of these efforts would help, but which one would be the best start?
1. Education. Are we so stupid that a better education system would benefit our citizenry into voting for collective good, and for their own interests instead of voting against them?
2. REAL campaign finance reform so that governance would be for the citizenry instead of special interests.
3. Development of viable parties to give meaningful competition to the Democrats and Republicans.
Thoughts? Ideas?
I'd say number one without any hesitation.
Restore the civics classes and financial classes that have been removed. Stop the ignorance about Charter schools...The Milwaukee experiment shows that is useless. Give kids what they need. More teachers, less administration. And every administrator must teach at least one class a day.
More,
You are correcto mundo on that, "...every administrator must teach at least one class a day."
I'm a retired teacher, I have reams of documentation on the hundreds organizations formed to dismantle public education and their officers since Raygun Ronnie. Research I have done on my own. It was, and still is, an assault on everything from daycare to university. Charter Schools from daycare to 12th grade. Then corporate agendas in higher ed. to the silencing of dissent of academics. They came damn close and are entrenched, but losing validity everyday.
These people actually are driving out neighborhood daycare people by using local government to 'outlaw' daycare without 'credentialed teachers.' Yeah, my 2 year old needs a credentialed teacher for four hours while I go to my $6.50 an hour part time job. Yeah, I know childhood development, I know the critical conceptual age, but what good is maximum stimulation of the cerebral cortex without the warm arms of a human being cooing to the child? Nothing, thats what. Unless you prefer pathology over reason.
Sorry...
Thom: NO BAILOUT. NO SCAM. ITS SO OVER, DUDE.
If anything, this whole thing has shown just how in-bed Obama & the dems in congress are with the little idiot in the White House. It makes me want to PUKE.
Interesting that you didn't mention the republicans.
Your strategy to try to tar the Democrats with the sins of the republicans is pretty transparent.
q
Well, we expect the Republicans to be in bed with Dubya, but we don't expect the Dems to be. I think that was the point.
According to Thom Hartman (on his radio program), one purpose of this 'crisis' is to tie the Dems to Bush in the public mind & give McCain a chance to step away from him.
OK, then the Dems need to pay attention and stop allowing themselves to be jerked around every election year ! I'm so frustrated with them.
Obviously!
He specifically mentioned "the little idiot in the White House" and the Democrats to try to link them in the mind of the reader. He also "specifically" avoided using the word "republicans."
How do I know that this omission is deliberate? Consider the case of Gino Rossi who is running for governor of Washington as a representative of "GOP Party (sic)" and not as a "republican" (http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/politicsnorthwest/2008/09/23/democrats_sue_over_rossis_gop.html).
"Republican" is not a desirable political brand in most of the country and Rove wants to spread the grief to the Democrats through clumsy associations such as the ones that you trolls are contantly trying to make on this board.
q
Why have the Democrats made it so easy for Rove?
Waste of time much?
I do not understand this posters political bent. It is as if the news fails to filter into his brain somehow. I've no problem with those who support the Democratic Party and seek to change it for the better, but when we get this history of inane and borderline insane loyalty, well.....
We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
RichM...look how juvenile and illogical you get when confronted with intelligent arguments. Nothing is more obvious than the strategy and tactics that Rove is using/must use. Bush is under 30%, and 80% of Americans want change and feel we're going in the wrong direction. Duh! So, if Obama can be tied to Bush, and McCain could possibly succeed in the ludicrous attempt to cast himself as a anti-Washington outsider, that's his only chance. If however Obama is seen by Americans as the guy who offers change from the Bush legacy, Obama takes it.
So...as obvious as your juvenile 'debating', Rove is trying to tie Obama (and the Dems in general) to Bush for the most obvious of reasons. Surely, even you could see that.
quickstepper's argument is logical and obvious. You counter by veering into this high school stuff about "...rules to say nice things about the Dems..."??? And silliness like "...you don't make the rules here..."!? It's not about making rules; it's simply pointing out the obvious about who benefits from certain types of attacks, what is obviously being attempted here, and whose underhanded tactics does that remind you of??
KARL ROVE
Sure, there's a fair bit of ad hominem going on all around (getting more personal than we should) but you totally avoid quickstepper's point to simply attack him and Dems. Methinks you doth protest too much!
Most of us need you to wake us up, like we need...let's see...4 more years of Rove/Bush/McCain. I suspect quickstepper is like Madcow and myself and so many others with huge problems with the Dems. We are simply realistic enough to see that as bad as are the Dems, they're not fascists. And Obama is a huge improvement over McCain/Rove/Bush...huge, and it's significant.
It's so obvious who benefits from this constant, relatively hysterical Dem bashing and tying Obama and the Dems to Bush... Nader and McCain. Some of you are Naderites and the others are Rove trash.
YES!!!! You've got it. It's so transparent.
Constantly associating everything nasty to the Dems and particularly Obama, and presenting Nader as the paragon of virtue to obviously guilt-trip progressives into voting Nader, which benefits both Nader and McCain/Rove.
Nader for his $$$ from getting 5% of the vote. And McCain from the progressive votes skimmed off from Obama.
Can you not do better than this "spoiler" nonsense? It is childish and wrongheaded on several fronts.
Firstly, many who vote for Nader would simply refrain from casting a ballot for either mainstream candidate.
Secondly, to thine own house be true. In the 2000 election 2.000.000 voted for Nader while 6.000.000 registered democrats voted for Bush. I would say that indicates you loyal democrats have some spoiler problems internally.
Thirdly, your characterization of Ralph Nader is mean spirited and reflects an untrue picture of his service to this nation for decades. I fail to see any guilt trips being perpetrated, only common sense and a desire to cast a progressive ballot for a progressive candidate. That is my right, I believe it is my duty to this nation and you would be better served by working to salvage anything at all left of a once proud political party, your own.
We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
the American people demand an emergency
presidential election and an immediate transition.
One week from TUESDAY, all paper ballots.
This is the only way we get to regain confidence.
gus,
Another important idea to move away from the trend toward Fascism.....reverse the law that allows Corporations to be considered "individuals." Hold the corporations accountable for their destruction of environment, economy, jobs, etc. and secondly...institute run-off voting in this country. We need REAL change in the two-party system we have....which is really just 1 party with different names. Also, it wouldn't hurt to get rid of the rigged voting system we have!
God damn it!
Call and write your representative while this option is still available to us in this country.
I have contacted all my friends and some are responding, as they should. Give your friends and acquaintances the tools they need. They all do not spend their time as we do on these issues and are ignorant of how to respond or what they can do.
We are here to educate not just to pontificate.
Done as you suggest by 3:00 P.M. yesterday. Great Post.
Why does this Wall Street bailout seem a little like blackmail? And what is the FBI doing in their current investigations into the situation?
A bit of "dark humor" looking into these questions in the article:
"Give up Your Cash, or You'll Lose it in a Crash"
PopulistAmerica.com
Sept. 26, 2008
http://www.populistamerica.com/give_up_your_cash_or_youll_lose_it_in_a_crash
"Why does this Wall Street bailout seem a little like blackmail?"
Because they are trying to blackmail us.
The only thing I understand about economics is perhaps supply and demand. I do not understand hedge funds or selling short or any other devious, cynical, Machiavellian money strategies. All I know - and know for certain - is that the Filthy Lucre Party is destroying the middle class and this country because that is the only thing left that the United States "produces". Cosmically complicated financial scams is all this country is about any longer. And you can expect that greed, selfishness, stupidity and fuck you, Jack, I got mine attitude will reduce this country within a generation, or perhaps within a decade, to a nation like Turkey or Argentina . . . or maybe even Albania. This crisis offers us all a glimpse of the human race in a nutshell and the reason for its eventual and well earned disappearance from the face of the earth.
I still love that "Filthy Lucre Party"
You and I disagree on the path of America, I believe we will restore it to honor, but your main point about what we produce and destruction of the Middle Class and hence the poor which they support, not government programs, we are in complete agreement. You are right.
We need to restore jobs to America and stop these Pond Scum business types from buying government help or rewarding them for moving jobs offshore or importing cheaper labor. And remind American business...forcefully...they do have civic responsibility.
Why help bail them out in any way?
The whole purpose of the bailout is to save the asses of the private bankers who own the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve is neither "Federal," because it's not a government agency but a private for-profit business, nor "Reserve," because it has no money in it.
The Federal Reserve uses us citizens as collateral for producing money out of thin air and then charges us interest on it. If all the banks collapse, so will the Federal Reserve and its grip on our lives. The Federal Reserve has created this crisis. If it sinks, there will be no debtors left on our mortgages -- we'll own our homes free and clear. And that is definitely NOT what the big financial players want. Also, we'll make our own local currencies and economies -- and the rise of this kind of activity during the Depression is what alarmed the big financial players the most and spurred The New Deal.
Now the Treasury Department has sold most of WaMu, including my home loan, at a bargain-basement price to Chase. Why at bargain basement price? Did WaMu's collapse cause my mortgage's balance to decrease, my interest rate to be lowered or my monthly payments to decrease? And why to Chase? Was WaMu in debt to Chase? Shouldn't the assets like mine have gone into the receivership of those to whom WaMu was in debt? Shouldn't I have been given a chance to buy my loan at a bargain-basement price?
The system is set up to keep the vast majority always in debt to a very small minority. This is what builds electronic wealth for this minority.
In the end, however, the whole ship is going down. It doesn't matter whether the bailout happens or not. This empire is imploding, as all empires do eventually. With this implosion will come our reduced pressure on the planet, a curtailment of population growth, and an opportunity like never before for us to manifest localized economies based upon the real wealth of our natural resources, not funny money.
"Did WaMu's collapse cause my mortgage's balance to decrease, my interest rate to be lowered or my monthly payments to decrease? ... Shouldn't I have been given a chance to buy my loan at a bargain-basement price?"
GREAT QUESTION !!!! If Chase gets to buy your mortgage for a fraction of what you currently owe, then why aren't YOU given the opportunity to buy it ???
That is the real question. And the way that is being negotiated? Well...It isn't. Of course you might be able to walk away from it if Chase won't deal. I think if a lot of people facing this problem were to start hammering the banks it would at least show up Wall St. as beggars and Bush as buffoon.
Of course it would require media exposure...
Yeah, it looks like JP Morgan picked up the mortgages at less than 1 cent on the dollar. Actually, after they factor in the 8 billion they get from additional shares they sell having acquired these assets they actually were paid 1 cent on the dollar to get 500 billion in assets (any losses get sold to the taxpayer if the bail out goes through, or the Fed will pick them up).
JP Morgan is making out like a bandit over this "crisis". Bear Stearns was another great prize.
"it looks like JP Morgan picked up the mortgages at less than 1 cent on the dollar"
You have to be kidding me. You're kidding, right ? Please tell me you're kidding. I think you're not kidding.
The loosers that made the sale to him will surely be rewarded while their shareholders grab their ankles.
rocyahsoul@yahoo.com
www.lamegame.name
Daniel Vincent Kelley
Shut up bigot.
WaMu spent all the money on free TV's for people who opened up checking accounts. Then they began offering $75.oo checks to anyone who opened an account with a minimum of one dollar!!!!
This is called "marketing"...I guess they thought that they could sucker all those new customers into getting a credit card with no interest on balance transfers for the first year - then the interest rate goes up to 23%.
Now all those people are paying 23% or more interest to David Rockefeller's bank.
And some of you CDers think the government doesn't know what it's doing???? HA!!!
licketyglick, I agree with your idea. Actually, I wrote about that yesterday.
http://wagelaborer.blogspot.com/2008/09/let-judge-set-bail-not-congress.html
Two years ago Washington Mutual was offering two different types of stated income subprime mortgage loans. The borrower had a choice of a fixed rate loan, or an adjustable rate mortgage - with the option of dropping down to paying the interest only if one could not afford to pay the mortgage. In other words, they were giving an option of a temporary discount to the people who bet on their inability to pay. Those who wanted to be "responsible" had to pay a higher rate. The "other" people took the risk of not knowing what their rate would adjust to in the future. It will be interesting to see which was the safer bet.
WaMu recently notified all their credit card customers that they had the option of freezing their credit cards at the rate they originally had a contract for (but risk the negative effect on their credit reports) or keep them open to whatever change of terms the bank could come up with.
Just thought CD readers might like to know the signs that their bank might fail.
I'm sure Chase bank will be much "kinder" (ha, ha!)
Another thought:
Investor and market confidence are crucial for smooth functioning. The stock market crash of 1929 happened when people became afraid of the financial system and lost confidence in the banks and markets.
So now, we have a President encouraging fear? If Bush wasn't considered the worst President in US history, he should be regarded as such now.
Innana:
Agree that corporations should not be regarded as individuals. That they are not given the right to vote only emphasizes how little the right to vote really means. Legal standing is much more important, and taking away the equality of corporate standing with individual standing in the legal system would start to whittle away corporate power. Whittling away corporate power could reverse us on the road to fascism. Good point.
Sioux Rose
GUS: The closing off of the 4th estate has led to the massive ignorance that like a sleeping giant is being awakened by this boot to the collective pocket book. We need the media back in the hands of people with diverse views so that a REAL conversation--and understanding--of trends of impact to the nation gets back underway.
Mr. Hartman uses the best lessons of history, even how similar events led to similar outcomes in a variety of nations to establish what DOES work. I hope this information gets to those in positions to vote on what's taking place. There ARE better solutions then just handing $ to the same cons who have taken our nation to its knees, morally and fiscally, the past 8 years.
Absolutely. Restoring Glass-Stegall would be a good start.
Sioux Rose: "We need the media back in the hands of people with diverse views so that a REAL conversation--and understanding--of trends of impact to the nation gets back underway."
Very well put.
What I keep trying to tell everyone - especially those who don't want to listen - is that decentralization of the corporate media is a prerequisite for ANY reform in the US.
q
Absolutely basic. Democracy can't work properly if citizens have to be able to research like pros in order to find out what's going on.
That's the situation now. The average voter is bombarded with such distorted, slanted misinformation that intelligent voting booth choices are impossible for most voters.
And type of ownership as well has to be controlled. Journalism it too important to democracy to have entertainment companies, etc., controlling the media. Not only do we now have incredible concentration, but also huge obvious conflicts of interest. And the public loses out.
"The cris is coming, the crisis is coming, the crisis is coming" ....
Sound fmiliar --
Let the capitalists bil themselves out --
And let's RE- capitalism --
including credit card industry --
"According to all myth, the female - not the male -- gives life"
As per Gus's comment, I firmly believe that all starts with EDUCATION. If we can go by the value of the Clemente Program in New York City and elsewhere- we see that the poorest people can Dramatically turn their lives around with focused, pragmatic, meaningful EDUCATION. It is funny perhaps, but just REALIZING how really big the world is, and how small yet SIGNIFICANT you are, can open one's eyes and heart...soul and mind. Suddenly these poor people are far richer in every way, and so is our Society. Of course, about 50 years or more of Neo-CON efforts funnelled through the Repugnant GOP Neo-CONS in attacking Education, destroying a sense of Community and Humanity (for fun and PROFIT) will take some time to deal with...but are we men and women or are we ciphers here at the pleasure of all the smirking, detructive Dubyas and their Robotic minions. Education would be a catalyst, would restore a functioning Democracy, would make Environmentilism easier, would cause people to read more and engage in the ECHO CHAMBER a lot less...it goes on and on...and ON!
Absolutely correct except that education has been attacked and politisized by both sides. Look at which classes have been removed and what has replaced them in the US and you will know the problem is bi-partisan.
We need to get all politics out of the classroom.
Uh, Rich, taxing every transaction which the Wall Street gangs execute IS taking money "out of the hides" of the folks who caused this problem.
q
The childishness of your language underlines the your pathetic inability to understand the article. Hartmann clearly substantiates the considerable sums to be gained from such a tax.
Besides, just what exactly have you proposed? Do you want to shut down securities trading altogether? Roosevelt proved beyond any doubt that a well regulated securities market is a boon to the economy.
So let's say that your phony outrage is indulged and all of the "Masters of the Universe" are jailed and the entirely of their holdings liquidated and applied in some meaningful way. You have a one-time gain whose benefit will diminish over time.
The tax that Hartmann proposes would allow the securities markets to recover AND provide an ongoing source of revenue to redirect some its proceeds toward programs that could benefit everyone.
You see, your nonsensical answer is one obvious sign that you're not the progressive that you pretend to be. A true progressive would recognize the value of Hartmann's suggestion immediately.
q
Once again, you attack ONLY the Democrats.
And by the way, I'm not a Democrat. I'm an independent Progressive - a REAL Progressive, not a phony poser such as yourself and the other Rove functionaries.
I appear to take the Dems' side to counter the crap that you and the other right-wing goons dump onto this site every day. When you start criticizing republicans equally then I'll leave you alone. You won't, of course, because your entire purpose for posting on this site is to trash Obama and lower his vote count.
You can whine and complain all you want about the Democrats' reaction to Paulson's proposal. Paulson is a republican using a republican-fabricated issue to further republican causes.
I find it interesting that you have nothing to say about the phony "alternative" plan presented by several suppposedly "dissident" republican memebers of Congress.
q
Hee! Hee! You're good. This site is crawling with Rove scum and Naderites. Maybe I'm presumptious but I think we're in the same boat. I'm a democratic socialist, not a Dem, but a down-to-earth realist. So obviously, I'm going to vote for Obama and I encourage all progressives and undecideds to do likewise.
No need to enumerate what we don't like about the Dems, but they're not fascists. And Obama is a huge improvement over Cheney/Rove/Bush, and McCain/Palin/Rove. It's so obvious that anybody who disagrees is either stone cold dumb, or insincere. The hyperbole about Obama is getting so shrill and ridiculous, that you wonder if Rove has lost his touch--most likely to start a nuclear war!!??, etc. Just plain bad. But, unfortunately, it's having it's effect. It's always been a problem with the left; it attracts a lot of wild dreamers, tough-talking schemers, and adrenelin junkies who just don't get it or don't even want to get it.
All of us progressives have a certain vanity about our analysis and intentions. We're (justifiably?) proud of our integrity and our ability to see what is really going on. And that makes us vulnerable to the Rovian guilt-trip: "The Dems are as bad as the Repugs, Bush enablers all the way, and you guys are supporting a war monger (supposedly Obama) you are part of the problem", etc. And then all the positive stuff about Nader to skim off progressive votes that would otherwise go to Obama.
Dems and realistic voters are reluctant to show on this site, so badly has it been subjected to a hostile takeover.
I think you may get 90+ percent agreement from progressives, but progressives comprise less than five percent of the population even though progressive policies would benefit the majority. Of course a certain two percent of the population can get almost anything passed, but few progressives are found in that two percent.
Now there's some real math!
I don't think it's missing. It is edited.
Sink the hook in their mouths first, then put lye on the wound.
Absolutely, Rich M. And while we're dismantling the casino that the ruling class uses to extract money from our productive economy, let's dismantle the gambling that the state governments now use to fund everyday state expenses. It is truly sad how many people, as Jeff Foxworthy points out, have playing the lottery as their retirement plan. As long as you have lotteries as the source of state income, math classes aren't going to teach about odds.
And raising intelligent children has been studied for decades. It starts at birth with engaged parents and proper child raising, and you can go into kindergartens and tell who will succeed and who won't. You can tinker with schools and teaching methods, but the raw material is formed before school starts.
They used to do pilot studies, where they taught parents how to interact with their children, but I'm guessing that James Dobson and the right wing crowd don't really approve of critical thinking. It makes it difficult to exploit the masses.
Thom Hartmann's is but one of several good ideas for how to bail us all out of this mess without rewarding the crooks. See also Dean Baker's writings over the past couple of years at least. He long ago predicted this dilemma and has written about the relationship between RENT and inflated mortgages. Also Michael Hudson on the artificial inflation of mortgages: the proposed bailout is an attempt to re-inflate the housing market.
The Paulson Plan is a top-down non-solution seeking to sort of return to the status quo. What is needed is a drastic bottom-up solution that for the most part lets people keep their homes on a "mark-to-market" mortgage value, if necessary by using a piggy-back mortgage subsidy backed by the government. Much less expensive than the Paulson Plan and far more egalitarian and supportive of the "real economy."
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