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Behind the Hydrogen Explosion at the Fukushima Nuclear Plant
The explosion at the Fukushima nuclear power plant is being described as caused by a “hydrogen build-up” The situation harks back to the “hydrogen bubble” that was feared would explode when the Three Mile Island plant in 1979 underwent a partial meltdown.
The hydrogen explosion problem at nuclear power plants involves a story as crazy as can be. As nuts as using nuclear fission to boil water to generate electricity is, the hydrogen problem and its cause cap the lunacy.
Eruption of hydrogen gas as a first reaction in a loss-of-coolant accident has been discussed with great worry in U.S. government and nuclear industry literature for decades.
That is because a highly volatile substance called zirconium was chosen back in the 1940’s and 50’s, when plans were first developed to build nuclear power plants, as the material to be used to make the rods into which radioactive fuel would be loaded.
There are 30,000 to 40,000 rods—composed of twenty tons of zirconium—in an average nuclear power plant. Many other substances were tried, particularly stainless steel, but only zirconium worked well. That’s because zirconium, it was found, allows neutrons from the fuel pellets in the rods to pass freely between the rods and thus a nuclear chain reaction to be sustained.
But there’s a huge problem with zirconium—it is highly volatile and when hot will explode spontaneously upon contact with air, water or steam.
The only other major commercial use of zirconium through the years has been in flashbulbs used in photography. A speck of it, on a flashbulb, ignites to provide a flash of light.
But in a nuclear plant, we’re not talking about specks—but tons and tons of zirconium, put together as a compound called “zircaloy” that clads tens of thousands of fuel rods.
Heat, a great deal of heat, builds up in a very short time with any interruption of coolant flow in a nuclear power plant—the problem at Fukushima after the earthquake that struck Japan.
Zirconium, with the explosive power, pound for pound, of nitroglycerine, will catch fire and explode at a temperature of 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit, well below the 5,000 degree temperature of a meltdown.
Before then, however, zirconium reacts to the heat by drawing oxygen from water and steam and letting off hydrogen, which itself can explode—and is said to have done so at Fukushima.
As a result of such a hydrogen explosion, there is additional heat—bringing the zirconium itself closer and closer to its explosive level.
Whether in addition to being a hydrogen explosion, zirconium also exploded at Fukushima remains to be known.
But what has happened regarding hydrogen at Fukushima, like the “hydrogen bubble” when the Three Mile Island plant in Pennsylvania underwent its near partial meltdown, is no mystery—but precisely what is expected in a loss-of-coolant accident.
It is described in U.S. government and nuclear industry accident studies as a “metal-water” reaction. It’s a reaction, the research has long stated, that can easily trigger a meltdown.
Using tons of a material otherwise used as the speck that explodes in a flashbulb in nuclear power plants —yes, absolutely crazy.
Moreover, in the spent fuel pools usually situated next to nuclear power plants, there are large numbers of additional fuel rods, used ones, disposed of as waste. There must be constant water circulation in the spent fuel pools. In what is labeled a “loss-of-water’ accident in a spent fuel pool, the zirconium cladding of the fuel rods is projected as exploding—sending into the environment the lethal nuclear poisons in a spent fuel pool.


120 Comments so far
Show AllI feel better now...NOT.
Yikes!
Government scientists who back nuclear power must be ignorant, mad or both.
But the pay is why they do it.
It is not the government scientists we need to worry about. It is the government. The comment "But the pay is why the do it" applies to our elected officials too. All bought and paid for by the richest thieves in the land.. aka "top 1%" or "greedy bastards" or "corrupt members of Congress."
Past time for us to wise up. Time for regime change in our nation. A bit of democracy would be nice-- where the government acts in the interests of the people.
If you would like our government to really be ours, you need to get out on the street on Saturday March 19 to protest the anniversary of the illegal and immoral war against the people of Iraq. Stop the war and tax the rich and that will end the austerity program. We'd have plenty of money to fully fund our domestic programs and protect our planet so that it can continue to keep life on earth.
"Government scientists who back nuclear power must be ignorant, mad or both."
Or, just maybe, Grossman is just ignorant. Powdered zirconium is no more flammable than powdered iron. Metals are flammable when they have high surface areas. Grossman's treating it like it's, say, Cesium metal. It's not.
Heat water up enough, and the hydrogen and oxygen dissociate. That's what happened here. The core is intact and the fuel rods were /not/ exposed. The zircaloy was not involved.
And before you accuse me of shilling (which I see going on a lot here), my name is Bryan Elliott, I'm a programmer, and I have no ties to the nuclear, or for that matter, power generation industry. I make websites for toy companies.
But seriously, what Grossman is saying is counter to damn near every reputable source I've seen on the subject so far. In my opinion, he's trying to sell his 25 year-old book.
Hey Ecoeng, looks like your reinforcements have arrived!
Calma, calma, que no panda el cunico!
take cover!
can someone advise what we need / can do to protect ourselves and others against the looming radiation?
i am dead serious.
Dear curiousteve,
Increase your iodine consumption and consume it as to keep a steady supply in your body. Iodized salt is a ready source. Sunny's Surplus used to have Iodine water purification tablets. You could dilute one of them in a couple gallons of water and drink a little every day a couple times a day. Don't over do it, though. This can help keep the radioactive iodine from bonding with your thyroid gland.
Eating veggies is better than meat. Know where your veggies are grown.
I'm sure you can find more ideas on the internet with a search on your question.
Stay indoors if you know fallout or radioactive dust is settling in your area. Use that plastic sheeting and duct tape on the windows you've been saving since 9-11-01. Wait until after a rain to get out in the dirt after a dusting.
Unfotunately, over the long term we are "cooked". The half life of this stuff is forever and once it gets in the eco-system it can't be avoided.
The stress of worring about it may be worse for you in the short term.
Case in point...Chernobyl...nuclear fallout saturated the area and remains there for billions of years. Once people eat food from, or breath the contaminants from the area...and it is a hugh area spanning much of europe and asia...radiation permanently alters their genetic make up, and they pass these new disasterous traits off onto the next generation. Thus we see children of 6 developing rare cancers and other serious ailments.
How many new nuclear plants does prez. OBummer want to build???
Japan, Radiation Fallout and Iodine Recommendations
http://drdavidbrownstein.blogspot.com/
Store a months supply of water, or buy a geiger counter, Iodine can be removed by distillation. as for the actuall radition you get more staring into an old fashoned computer monitor
Be at peace :)
>^^<
Another irrational feature at the heart of the project of industrial reason: apparently, the thirst for energy and its power effects trumps all other rational considerations, even those provided by perfectly clear scientific evidence.
Thank you, Mr. Grossman, for a clear article!
I assume that you're employed to be an attacker of every single anti-nuclear message.
I'd worry more about all the dust from (depleted Urainium) munitions used in the gulf wars and today in Afganistan! Fine dust released everytime a tank is hit or a home bombed thrown high in the air. To stay for years. Untill we all have Gulf War Syndrome.
>^^<
I have some Zircon encrusted tweezers. Shall we ride out together on pygmy ponies and pluck dental floss in Montana?
Not light, but dark humor and pure sarcasm.
Not sure where turtles in the sky comes from. Is it a cultural reference?
You may want to look up "'Montana' Zappa" to get my drift.
raisin' 'em up and waxen' 'em down
Thanks for the flashback
Thanks, that one made me laugh (even through all of this dark tragedy.) :-)
Posted this on the other thread on CD about this, but here it is again:
(http://www.nirs.org/reactorwatch/accidents/Fukushimafactsheet.pdf)
"FACT SHEET ON FUKUSHIMA NUCLEAR POWER PLANT
UPDATE, 1:45 pm, Saturday, March 12, 2011. It is being reported that Japanese authorities are preparing to distribute potassium iodine to the public in the most affected zones. This helps protect against thyroid cancer caused by exposure to radioactive Iodine-131. The release of Iodine-131 to the environment indicates melting of reactor fuel.
UPDATE, 1 pm, Saturday, March 12, 2011. World Nuclear News is reporting that a worker who was apparently trapped in the exhaust stack of Unit 1 at Fukushima Daiichi has died.
Tokyo Electric Power Co. (Tepco) has announced that it will begin venting the containments of three of the four reactors at the Fukushima Daini site in an effort to reduce pressure inside those containments. This will cause additional radiation releases to the air. Evacuation of a threekilometer zone around the Daini site has begun; people from 3 to 10 kilometers from the site are being told to take shelter indoors and have been notified that they may be asked to evacuate."
"The release of Iodine-131 to the environment indicates melting of reactor fuel."
This is false - I-131 is present in primary coolant steam in small amounts at all times in a BWR; it's a gaseous fission product that, like Xe-135, is a neutron poison with a relatively short half-life. It doesn't indicate melting of reactor fuel at all. Mind, I wouldn't be surprised /if/ a partial meltdown occurred, just I-131 is not an indicator of meltdown.
Of course, I expect nothing less from NIRS - they're an irrationally anti-nuclear propaganda group. Anything to bring up scare-words.
Can you imagine an irrationally pro-nuclear propaganda group? Any evidence in your experience of any sort of irrationality in support of nukes? All strictly on the up-and-up, all strictly rational, all simply seeking the best outcomes for humanity? Why, industry and government promoters such as yourself should get medals for your selfless dedication! Thanks for your work! Nice framing!
Frankly, the irrationally pro-nuclear propaganda groups have VASTLY more power, influence, access to the media, money, etc than any supposed bogey-man you bring up with your scare-words. Nice framing though.
Grossman made no such assertion about zirconium. Read the article again. Better yet, fly to Japan, head into the Fukushima exclusion zone, then give us a full report on the debris cloud and how zirconium alloys are used on-site. Have a great trip!
It's nice to see CD attracting what's likely the first wave of multiple-entity attacks. The Air Force has issued a contract to help automate Randroid/teabagger/corporate responses to limit or shift online debate. Posts like this one will become more common.
You forgot about the "2,000 degrees Farenheit" when you concocted your silly-ass assertion about the stability of bread in your car.
The trouble is you need to decide which zirconium you're talking about. Is it the one that is highly flammable in powder form and also used as an incendiary in munitions, or the one that helps stabilize your argument? The point Grossman makes is rather clear: massive heat plus zirconium plus air/water/steam is not a good mix.
If you're this exercised, confront the author or post links that credibly make whatever point you're after. You come off here like a fraud attempting to scatter the impact of this event...the same tactics of Randroids and assorted robo-skeptics. I half expect your next post to read "burning zirconium isn't mentioned in the Constitution, therefore cannot happen."
Lastly, it's nice to hear you're a jet-setter, but to what part of the earthquake/tsunami zone do you refer? It covers all of Japan, I hear. Also bear in mind that we're all downwinders - everyone breathing has an equal amount of skin in the game.
Thanks,
Mr. Grosssmans credentials as a jorrnalism professor hardly makes him qualified to comment on technical matters. I have yet to hear a journalist publish an article on a technical or scientific issue for which I have familairity without it being full of errors.
His assertion that the zirconium tubes couled even explode in the cold pool storage was the remark that stuck out as not credible.
But thanks for clarifying the issue about Zironium.
I find the burning of black rocks, spewing enormous volumes of pollutants into the air, and literal mountains of ash and scrubber waste on the land - fed by mines that produces their own huge piles of acid shale and black sludge over their their lifetimes, it be a far more absurd way to boil water.
For comparison, the waste generated by a nuclear reactor over a 25 year period can be seen here:
http://www.maineyankee.com/images/upload/1-5-06isfsi1.jpg
Thanks, articles such as these result when journalists do not consult scientists but, instead, extrapolate from ignorance. I would like to know what Nuclear Engineer vetted Mr Grossman's article (ans: no one) ... too lazy to fact-check.
never mind
"Ignition point for powder varies from 200degC to above 500degC depending on particle size."
But the article talks of a totally different ignition point at 2000degC, i.e. not the ignition point for powder, but for something else (I dont claim to know what). So the "relevant" info that you have provided, is in fact irrelevant.
I regard your claims of "near-baseless fear-mongering" as suspicious. The article talks of fission reactors in general. Not fear mongering regarding these particular reactors in the short term. I cant see how that is fear mongering.
Clearly recent events, and the large scale evacuations of people within a radius of the nuclear power plants indicate that there is a very real danger in the short term, and a something wrong with our best reactor designs in the long term.
Clarity and factual truth. Thank you Mr. Grossman. Now if the MSM will put you on the air, the public might get a much needed reality check on the insanity of "safe" nuclear power.
One more technical detail. There have been two nuclear poofs in the world, naturally occurring runaway nuclear chain reactions.
One happened at an American uranium reprocessing plant, in a liquid vat with plenty of uranium and solvents within. The uranium settled to the bottom. At some point there was enough uranium in a tight enough concentration for a chain reaction to take off. The liquid mixture got quite hot and all vaporized, and one worker was buried as nuclear waste.
The other poof happened naturally 1 million years ago, in volcanic lava in Africa. Apparently natural uranium sank to the bottom of the lava and concentrated, and then a chain reaction took off. This spot is the only place in the world where traces of naturally occurring plutonium can be found.
The point is, it's possible, within a lava meltdown or with uranium pellets released from their zirconium tubes and dispersed with roiling seawater, to have a runaway nuclear chain reaction, a poof, not a full bomb. A poof vaporizing the whole nuclear core in a fraction of a second would be a Chernobyl.
chris busby - google him - is a nuclear scientist who works for both government and private sector interests and has spoken out about the insanity of nuclear power plants for years
he has time and again identified cancer clusters around every nuclear plant in existence, save none
he has traced the explosion, pardon the pun, of cancer that has arisen to the dawn of the nuclear age, for example cancer in children was virtually unknown prior to uranium mining
chernobyl was an accident that nearly resulted in a meltdown of its reactor - the resulting explosion would have blown half of europe to hell and back. the scientists at chernobyl were in fact trying to shut one fo their reactors down in order to do a drill that was supposed to save money.
equipment that was supposed to monitor water levels malfunctioned and indicated the water situation was good when it was not. by the time they figured that out and took action the water became super heated (violently expanding to 1600 times its normal mass) and it blew the roof right off the joint
there are no safety procedures for such an event - don't let the industry bullshit you - there are none
they had a fire and the fire almost caused a meltdown on its own
were it not for the bravery of the firemen and the military who improvised equipment and a plan that resulted in the cementing over of the gaping hole of the reactor this nuclear plant would have killed probably a billion or so people, at least
last year there was a final report on the damage of chernobyl and the final death toll was listed at 985,000, including all the men who plugged the reactor
of course the cement sarcophagus is now falling apart and if it collapses there will be another radiation release greater to the first one - they plan to build a larger sarcophagus over the old one
like you can take a bus tour to the nevada nuclear test sites, nowadays you can take a bus tour of chernobyl, though they don't recommend pregnant women take the trip
fact: in the continental us there have been over 2400 "tests" of nuclear weapons
fact: everyone in the world is polluted with nuclear garbage of various kinds in their teeth and their dna, mutations abound while the nuclear industry plays dumb
because we have used depleted uranium in iraq and afghanistan we see radiation sickness all over those countries - du is a nuclear weapon but who gives a fuck about anything anymore
not only do we see terrible evidence of genetic mutation in and around these areas we have also irradiated our own troops
the uranium binds with dna, mutations abound which explains why so many of our returning vets have this strange disease called gulf war syndrome - nothing strange at all about it - they are genetically mutating and uranium infected
we have destroyed iraq on so many levels including the nuclear - but we have also killed dour own troops
the vets have deformed children at alarming rates - mutations due to uranium poisoning
then these poor bastards - the soldiers and their children - are stuck to the military for life because the insurance companies would consider all these very expensive deformities to be "pre-existing conditions"
http://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/114
Yes, Medmedude, the situation has become even more dire as the U.S. military distributes depleted uranium in the form of bullets and tank shells to innocents abroad as part of our endless war economy. Not only do we have blatant war crimes and senseless deaths, we have a crime that will threaten humanity for years longer than homo sapiens (sic) have been on the planet. The physical half-life of depleted uranium is "4.468 billion years for uranium-238," per Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium
On the domestic front, even if there were no such thing as earthquakes and accidents, every nuclear reactor used to generate electricity for consumers releases radioactivity into its surroundings as part of its normal functioning, according to a book by Rosalie Bertell, "No Immediate Danger: Prognosis for a Radioactive Earth."
http://www.amazon.com/
No-Immediate-Danger-Prognosis-Radioactive/
dp/0913990256
(Sorry for the politically incorrect Amazon link. It is hard to find this 1985-published book, which I highly recommend for a comprehensive view of the issues. It's written to be understood by those without a nuclear science background, yet it covers the science quite well.)
We have already fought and lost ( both sides) a nuclear war, where instead of destroying each others cities we irradiated the whole planet with thousands of nuclear explosions we set off in the atmosphere, as if every atom of that same atmosphere was connected to every other atom. The result of the nuclear-chemical war we have waged for 65 yrs. now has been exactly what you'd expect, a cancer epidemic everywhere and a rapidly degrading environment. Whose surprised?
MEDME/PAUL K/THOUGHTS INTO ACTION: Thank you for your intelligent posts. The industry shills, and/or potentially pretend engineers, definitely don't want us to consider the long-term impacts of spent radioactive fuel rods, or the reality that these accidents are INEVITABLE. Had you not shown up to counter their cheery-sounding allegations, the forum would be served by dis-information, the most popular communication cred in the USA today.
Here in the U.S. the vast majority of nuclear plants were designed 40 years ago and few have had necessary upgrades done. Some were scheduled to shut down. Given the FACT that our government has been captured by big monied interests, and all sorts of deregulatory schemes/scams are already underway, who do you suppose is monitoring the progress of these scheduled modifications?
It's hard to know whether those who always speak as if science has it ALL under control do so because of their own arrogance, or because their paychecks depend on it.
Forty years after this technology began to generate profits for big energy powers, where has any money gone towards developing safe places to contain the radioactive debris? How many in this forum realize that some of it is sold to the military. Then it's used in weaponry. D.U. as I understand it, is in part the result of "recycling" the spent fuel rods, with radiation now part of weapons production... and at high speeds when these explode, particles of plutonium are released.
When boys who have never matured one iota in their spirituality get to play with all these lethal toys, all hell will break loose. As now. The gates of Hades have been opened under the aegis of science. Nice work.
Hydrogen may be either released or absorbed by zirconium at high temperature, as is stated by the following excerpt from a paper on hydrogen absorption by zirconium at high temperature:
"Zirconium and its alloys are widely used in nuclear
and chemical industries because of their low neutron
absorption and their excellent mechanical and corrosion
properties. In today’s nuclear reactors, optimised Zircaloy
and zirconium–niobium alloys are used for structural
components like fuel claddings, guide tubes, and
grid spacers.
At Forschungszentrum Karlsruhe (FZK), the
hydrogen source term during a hypothetical severe nuclear
accident, especially during the reflood phase, is
being investigated within the QUENCH program [1–3].
Hydrogen is produced by the strongly exothermic zirconium-
steam reaction (Eq. (1)). It is either released as a
gas into the atmosphere or may be absorbed by the
remaining zirconium metal (Eq. (2))..."
Source:
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/dept/Courses/NE-104B/Steinbruck_article_Zr-H.pdf
Perhaps solar power or wind power would be better. Just a thought. Being fairly well versed in science and reality I am of the opinion that we are well on our way to causing our own extinction due to our greed, ignorance and shortsightedness. Not much to do except enjoy the time you have. Aaah the beauty of natural selection...
Haha. But nuclear power doesn't naturally select humans well. It works well for cockroaches though.
I notice that you don't dispute the production of hydrogen by zirconium. Hydrogen being produced by an out of control nuclear reactor. Explosive hydrogen that blew the walls off the containment building. Why do they call it a containment building? I guess it's supposed to keep something contained.
Maybe Karl knows what he's talking about. I suppose you know what you're trying to get across too.
Form the photos I've seen, the blown-off walls are just the sheet-metal siding of a light duty outer building that surrounds the contaiment building.
Fine. I'll file that under: Why there's nothing to worry about due to an explosion at the nuclear plant. Just a little problem with the sheet metal siding.
Hey Mark I get a kick you and your comments. Just in case let me be the first to tell you the NOW nuclear power is dead boy. Karl Grossman I have heard of and been listening to for years. And ....you are? Never heard of you boy.
I still have not heard what your qualifications are...boy.
Boy ? Who are you>>>Tarzan?
Oooh, bald assertion and argument from authority. I'll bet you make all the "good" arguments against nuclear power, and that no one /ever/ laughs when you assert things like "nuclear power is dead".
You're cute, but no. You may have been listening to Grossman for years, but he's no nuclear engineer, and it's readily demonstrable from the alarmism in his writings. I'm sure it irritates you to suspect you've been being effectively lied to for "years", but hey, such is life.
Amazingly enough, I don't have a problem with you or the trolls attempt at sobriety. I do think that the discussion of the physical proeprties of zirconium metals is basically a red herring. For starters, the substance in question is an alloy--zircaloy--which has known explosive issues with hydrogen and steam, although I'd probably agree with MEP that it's not that big of a threat, and that Grossman is overstating the hysteria here and as far as I could tell, the call-out was reasonable. He's a journalist, not a nuclear engineer. I did browse one source that was a nuclear engineer that explain how zircaloy rods can be explosive in certain mixes with steam and hydrogen. But it's pretty clear that this wasn't what happened on that footage. It struck me as a hydrogen combustion, which is powerful enough on its own.
But all this is beside the point. Focusing on "explosions" is a peripheral concern to the core danger of nuclear power, which is the meltdown and release of radiation, and to that extent, Grossman's alarm is reasonable, in spite of the clumsiness of his work. Anyone who's ever seen updated pictures of Chernobyl can understand that a meltdown is truly the gift that keeps on giving.
Another note: The 439 mgeawatt Fukushima unit 1 commenced commercial power production on March 26, 1971 and was scheduled to be shut down on March 26, 2011. It missed its shutdown by about 14 days.
"Fundamentals of metallic corrosion: atmospheric and media corrosion of metals," by Philip A. Schweitzer, p. 598:
"At elevated temperatures, zirconium forms volatile halides."
The genius of the market at work
Mark Abram is merely asserting all manner of things, without evidence or sources.
Furthermore, it has been established by experiment and reported in peer-reviewed papers that "hydrogen is produced by the strongly exothermic zirconium-steam reaction." (for the source, see my post above at 2:22 pm).
That hydrogen is highly flammable and forms explosive mixtures with air has been amply demonstrated..
So as the prevailing winds slowly move across the planet, we find that we are all ........"Fukushimaed! "
I bet we don't have to worry anymore about any of those pesky nuclear plants being built here. Hey wait a minute, I just saw a for sale cheap sign on a place called Diablo.
MEP's posts sound like he knows something about the matter, but he always fails to be clear.
For a man who claims to have such in-depth knowledge of the matters under discussion, it is odd that he does not understand the end of the paper I cited.