Duh, I tnink the road the USA is on is named "Lose Slow Road".

Afghan Corruption; Senate Inaction
"Fool me once, shame on you…"

Afghan corruption is frustrating Congress.
Senate inaction is frustrating us.
Let Kerry tell Karzai that we're pulling out
While Senate foot draggers fall under the bus.

Give special attention to prim Mitch McConnell –
Backward and forward so the tire tracks show –
Then see which sycophants, after they scape him up,
Continue campaigning on nothing but No.

The Afghanistan answer is almost as simple.
Since Pentagon Generals are the ones who want war,
Budget cuts to reduce their pensions and salaries
Will eliminate most of what they're "fighting" for.

But cutting the number of Senate Republicans
Is not a tactic guaranteed to suffice.
To bring about changes, reduce their incentives
To always make trouble for those who play nice.

Mandated tenure in the Senate could help.
Four terms and they don't have to campaign again.
No committee assignments or responsibilities,
But when close votes come up? They're in the bullpen.

The rest of the time they would sit on their duffs,
Just like one side of the aisle's doing now,
But without any pressure from interest groups
Or lobbyist money to make sure they kowtow.

No party demands. They could vote their own consciences.
No vindictive McConnell to make their lives Hell,
Unless fate's finger conned us and he crawled out from under
That bus to curse Kerry for wishing us well.

Bob Carlson
www.politicalboondoggles.com
On Twitter @PBoondoggles
8/16/10

To 'Congress growing more wary
about corruption in Afghanistan, Sen. Kerry says'
To 'After one-on-one with Obama,
McConnell vows to slow White House agenda'
To 'The Empty Chamber - Just how broken is the Senate?'
To 'Petraeus Opposes a Rapid Pullout in Afghanistan'
To 'That Republican Congress'
To 'Mitch 'Just Say No' McConnell'
To 'Mitch'
To 'Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me'

US imperial aggression and US imperial occupation: it's all basically just a cover for taking millions of US taxpayer dollars and putting them into the pockets of corporations such as Halliburton and Blackwater and thousands of private contractors, mercenaries and miscellaneous Hessians.

Just say no to Obama's Hessianization of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Just another mercenary war criminal spinning lies.

"I honestly think it will be a few years before conditions on the ground are such that turnover will be possible for us,"

Which means it will be a few years until enough American bases are built to guard the oil and natural gas pipelines that American energy corporations want to build across Afghanistan to sell energy to India, Pakistan and other Asian nations.

Unfortunately the Russians already tried to export Afghan natural gas by pipeline and the pipelines were frequently sabotaged. The plan failed.

In the 90's, UNOCAL wanted to build a pipeline from Turkmenistan to India via Afghanistan to supply an ENRON electrical power plant near Bombay with cheap natural gas. All of these plans failed.

What the American military is doing at the request of Congress and the White House, who both work for Big Oil, is criminal corporate imperialism paid for by American tax-payers at a time when our economy is in ruins.

Public debt for private profit with no end in sight.

And what will it cost to occupy Afghanistan for the rest of the 21st century ? $Trillions ! Much more than the resources are worth. But if the plan works, the MIC profits and Big Oil profits while the rest of America loses.

But recent news is that foreign investor purchases of our debt in the form of bonds are declining. The occupation of both Afghanistan and Iraq are financed with deficit spending sustained by selling bonds.

In other words, Washington it taking out huge loans to pay for corporate wars, but it a house built upon drifting sands.

As Sen. Mike Mansfield once said about escalating Vietnam, "We don't have the money and we can't win."

Imperial over-extension is already here. The empire is bleeding slowly but surely.

But Conway cited a fellow commander's assessment that "we can either lose fast or win slow."

You can also lose slow(ly) . . . real real real real real slowly.

You're a loser, Conway.

Take your MIC payoff and piss off.

The Marine is too old to die young and we are in too long to lose fast. Let's just say we won and get out quick and move on to the next. We're pretty good at that and who's gonna say different? The Germans did pretty good after the big one and the other big one. Who's to say they didn't win? We are all entitled to our own view of history. Just ask Glenn Beck.

I don't believe there are any intentions of turning over Afghanistan unless it's to the Far right Imperial Empire, that the previous Regime had intended to have. The day will come when it is proven it was not Muslims who attacked our country, and that will mean was not only Iraq that the invasion was Illegal.The bottom line was the demand to have an oil pipe line from Alaska,-]the reason for Palin]-though Russia,[ the reason for the bit with Georgia to cause a conflict with Russia] and on to Africa with the US empire in charge.

So, genreel conway, you pusface, will those years be what it takes to steal the 'newly' found minerals in that area. Damn sure want to get your share of the loot, don't you. What's your commission with the mic payoff program?

You knew OBAMA was a fraud when he said " Bush took his eyes off the ball in Afghanistan " when in reality they needed to subdue the resistance in IRAQ first then increase OCCUPATION of Afghanistan to increase fight against resistance there .
Bush did a lot in the mean time , built permanent bases , roads for military , killed thousands , ensured poppy production, installed CIA Asset KARZAI ( "took his eyes off the ball" ) what a liar , Obama .
Now comes Phase 2. OBAMA to increase Fight against Resistance in Afghanistan, sending more troops , build more bases and murder more people and the POPPY flourishes in the sunlight.
WHY , read what Brzezinski wrote in the Grand Chessboard (Obama unofficial adviser) "Controlling Eurasia (afghan)will lead to subordination of Africa ", nice of homey to stab his people in the back .
With help of complicit media, OIL ; OIL PIPELINE is NEVER , NEVER mentioned , even though the TALIBAN went to UNOCAL HQ in Texas for OIL SEMINAR in 98 and Layla Helms was PR person for TALIBAN , (daddy was CIA head), in addition to KARZAI puppet that signed OIL PIPELINE deal w/ Pakistan , after being installed by U.S Gov.
It's all about EURASIAN MINERALS , shutting out CHINA , and surrounding IRAN & RUSSIA w/ BASES .

"I sense our country is increasingly growing tired of the war," he said.

No shit sherlock! Brilliant fucking deduction!

Although some of us were tired of these illegal occupations, that which he calls war, before they started.

OYE

Conway is just telling it like it is.

There are too many war profiteers making $$MEGAMEGABUCKS paying off Congress and controlling the WH for it to be any other way.

Corporate Greed is a wonderous thing - Raw Capitalism Rules!!!!!

"Raw Capitalism Rules"

What we are discussing is not capitalism.

It is criminal corporate fascist welfare.

Iraq has cost the public $Trillions. Afghanistan is at about a $Trillion and counting.

Even if you accept these war crimes, huge amounts of public money have been wasted to subsidize private profits. They are spending more on war crimes than the resources are worth.

If Big Oil had to pay for their wars they would be instantly bankrupt.

This has become a criminal transfer of wealth from the many to few through a corrupted government and has nothing to do with the theory and function of free market capitalism.

I'd like to ask this lame-brained General just exactly what it is that we will be "winning?" The only winners in this fiasco are the wealthy in the MIC. You know, nearly all our Congresspeople and our current and former Presidents etc.
We the People are losing big time but most are too lazy to notice.

Apparently this clown, Conway, hasn't figured out that if you can't win a war after 9 years, another few years is not going to change anything.

lets see , a few years , say 3-5???

At 6 billion a month ,,, thats 72 billion a year, x 5 ,,, another 380 billion dollars ,,,

lets allow the rich senators, congressmen and military industrial complex to pay for that ,, shall we,

let them borrow the money from china, and leave the american tax payers alone,

we are already on the hook for 8 trillion , thanks to bush and his pals,, and now another 3 trillion thanks to Obama , his pals and bush pals,

and were not the ones that lied to start the wars, and we are not the ones creating more enemies every day,

they just want us to be afraid and pay the bills
i am not afraid of terrorists outside our country or inside our government,,,

thats 12 trillion , that we know of, i am way more afraid of watching the country go totally broke.

Americans looking for food , and trying to survive , Americans that have 275 million registered guns becoming desperate ,should scare the shit out of everyone, world wide.

Countrys better start figuring out how to move jobs back here ASAP, good paying jobs.

'Conway acknowledged that public support for the US mission was declining but appealed for patience, warning of the risks of any early withdrawal.

"I sense our country is increasingly growing tired of the war," he said.'

He senses ? Finally ?

Out now !

What do we call WIN in Afghanistan? Do we then have rights to opium profits?

Just cutoff the funds. If they want to stay on their own dime, that's up to them.

"Agence France Presse

No South Afghanistan Handover for a 'Few Years': US
WASHINGTON -

The head of the US Marine Corps on Tuesday said Afghan forces would not be ready to take over security from US troops in key southern provinces for at least "a few years.""

Huh? What security?

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'The general added that the administration needed to do a better job of explaining the mission in Afghanistan and the importance of preventing Al-Qaeda and its allies from securing safe havens in the country.'

The Marines are missionaries converting tribes?

'War' has become a privatised business enterprise funded by taxation.

Its important to Conway that public support for 'war' is revitalised. Heavens forbid the public are against 'war' General Conway. And who exactly are Al-Quaeda allies? Are they mercenaries?

Conway must realise that Al-Quaeda is simply an ideology. On second thoughts he probably thinks they are a group of men who sprang up in Khandahar and hate our values and freedoms?

The Taliban are Pashtun tribes in Afghanistan and Pakistan. The Taliban live there and will resist any invasion of their homelands. The Taliban don't live abroad. The Taliban will still be there in their homelands when the USA departs. However long that takes?

Al-Quaeda on the other hand is in the mind. It can arise anywhere human minds are.

In the end the Taliban will have to be negotiated with and foreign forces will have to depart. Why put this off till the misery becomes unbearable? Terrible death and suffering is on the horizon in an already desperate land. Is that the best America can do with its resources and its potential? Poor Pakistan and Afghanistan don't need drones and bombs any more Mr Obama.

In truth, 'The Commander in Chief' should pull the plug and change tack! He should initiate the opening of a properly funded independent investigation of 9/11 crimes, with a view to uncovering the full truth of that unaddressed matter, by informing the public that serious doubts and ommissions in the conclusions of Bush's Commission Report have come to his Administration's attention!

Let that fly and watch the public's reaction!

Now that McChrystal is off the front page of the MSM the "Chorus of Generals" feels safe again to sing what our nation's policy should be in Iraq, Afghanistan, and essentially everywhere in the world. If the chorus was authorized by President Obama to make these statements they are merely voicing White House policy which Obama is too cowardly to make himself. If the chorus was not authorized then it already knows from past experience that Mr. Obama is too timid to recall and replace them. They will never again give interviews to non-MSM publications.

But Conway cited a fellow commander's assessment that "we can either lose fast or win slow."

Oh? What about "we can either win fast or lose slow."

After all that is what is happening.

Where does the US get such half wits from?

Fact is he knows and he does not care.

His money is elsewhere.

"The attacks made August the deadliest month for Iraqi policemen and soldiers in two years, and came A DAY AFTER the U.S. declared the number of U.S. troops had fallen to fewer than 50,000, their lowest level since the war began in 2003." (my caps)

A day after...? Do the 'generals' think Americans are ALL stupid?

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Well, what do you know? See how 'we must stay and finish the job'.... We must have another surge.. get back in there. We must keep the Iraqis in the streets 'safe'..'Free'.

So, this 'incident' has come just in time to stop the withdrawal of 'combat troops' (although we are told the troops who are left there can switch to being combat troops as 'necessary, as they have 'all been trained in combat in case of needing to be called upon to combat 'the enemy' we are murdering in their own land).

Who can discern the hand of the 'evil' people? Take a look at that man's face, above. POWER. To murder innocents. To order the, in his mind, mere rabble of the fodder (boys and girls of America) under his command.. To excite his senses. Maybe others in here have a different view? It would be good to hear it.

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Proclamation 5034—Afghanistan Day, March 21, 1983:

“The tragedy of Afghanistan continues as the valiant and courageous Afghan freedom fighters [The Taliban] persevere in standing up against the brutal power of the Soviet invasion and occupation. The Afghan people are struggling to reclaim their freedom, which was taken from them when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan in December of 1979.”

By the President of the United States of America (Ronald Reagan)

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And in 1985, a quote from then President Ronald Reagan as he introduced the Mujahideen leaders to the media on the White House lawn:

“These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America’s founding fathers.”

when then

".... as the valiant and courageous Afghan freedom fighters [The Taliban] persevere in standing up against the brutal power of the Soviet invasion and occupation..."

"....as the valiant and courageous Afghan freedom fighters (The Taliban) persevere in standing up against the brutal power of the American invasion and occupation..."

Many Americans (and many of their allies) would be incensed at the idea of America being a 'brutal power'..

Wonders just never do cease.

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