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Secret 'Kill Lists' Fly in the Face of US and Int'l Law
NEW YORK -
Two of the nation's most influential human rights organisations have
filed a lawsuit challenging the government's authority to carry out
"targeted killings" of U.S. citizens located far from any armed
conflict zone.
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and the Center for
Constitutional Rights (CCR) charge that the authority contemplated by
the Obama administration is far broader than what the Constitution and
international law allow.
The organisations claim that, "outside
of armed conflict, both the Constitution and international law prohibit
targeted killing except as a last resort to protect against concrete,
specific, and imminent threats of death or serious physical injury. An
extrajudicial killing policy under which names are added to CIA and
military 'kill lists' through a secret executive process and stay there
for months at a time is plainly not limited to imminent threats."
The
CCR and the ACLU were retained by Nasser al-Awlaki to bring the lawsuit
in connection with the government's decision to authorise the targeted
killing of his son, U.S. citizen Anwar al-Awlaki, whom the CIA and
Defense Department have marked for death.
The complaint asks a
court to rule that using lethal force far from any battlefield and
without judicial process is illegal in all but the narrowest
circumstances; and to prohibit the government from carrying out targeted
killings except in compliance with these standards. It also asks the
court to order the government to disclose the standards it uses to
place U.S. citizens on government kill lists.
Anwar al-Awlaki,
39, was born in Las Cruces, New Mexico, and is an Islamic lecturer who
is a dual citizen of the U.S. and Yemen. He is a spiritual leader and
former imam who has purportedly inspired Islamic terrorists. His sermons
are said to have been attended by three of the 9/11 hijackers.
Today's
lawsuit was filed against the CIA, Defense Department and the
president in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.
According
to the complaint, the government has not disclosed the standards it
uses for authorising the premeditated and deliberate killing of U.S.
citizens located far from any battlefield. The groups argue that the
American people are entitled to know the standards being used for these
life and death decisions.
"The United States cannot simply
execute people, including its own citizens, anywhere in the world based
on its own say-so," said Vince Warren, Executive Director of CCR. "The
law prohibits the government from killing without trial or conviction
other than in the face of an imminent threat that leaves no time for
deliberation or due process. That the government adds people to kill
lists after a bureaucratic process and leaves them on the lists for
months at a time flies in the face of the Constitution and
international law."
The groups charge that targeting individuals
for execution who are suspected of terrorism but have not been
convicted or even charged - without oversight, judicial process or
disclosed standards for placement on kill lists - also poses the risk
that the government will erroneously target the wrong people. In recent
years, the U.S. government has detained many men as terrorists, only
for courts or the government itself to discover later that the evidence
was wrong or unreliable.
But a top Obama counterterrorism
official is defending the government's right to target U.S. citizens
perceived as terror threats for capture or killing, citing al-Awlaki as
an example.
Michael Leiter, director of the National
Counterterrorism Center, does not say whether al-Awlaki is on a U.S.
targeting list, but a senior U.S. counterterrorism official has
previously confirmed that the cleric is among terror targets sought to
be captured or killed.
What does the law say about targeting and killing people?
Much
of the discussion thus far has been about the Constitutionality of such
killings. But, counter-intuitively, the Constitution is not the
primary engine. It is largely the laws of war that are in play here.
Daphne
Eviatar of Human Rights First (HRF) explains to IPS, "Whether the
target is a citizen isn't so important, because he's targetable if he's
an enemy belligerent or civilian who's directly participating in
hostilities against the United States."
She adds, "The problem
with the government's drone program is that it hasn't provided the
public with enough information to determine whether the government is
complying with those legal requirements. The fact that someone is
suspected of having ties to al Qaeda or even supporting al Qaeda does
not make them a member of a foreign force fighting the United States,
or someone directly participating in hostilities against the United
States."
"Until the U.S. starts providing information about not
only who they're targeting but what evidence exists that this person is
a legitimate target, then we can't know if what they're doing is
legal," she says.
Scott Horton, a constitutional lawyer and
contributing editor at 'Harper's Magazine', tells IPS, "There are two
ways the government can justify the extrajudicial killing of an
American citizen: one is when the person is in the act of a crime that
threatens the lives of others, or serious injury to them, and no other
means exists to stop him; the other is in the context of a war."
"The
Obama Administration appears to think that the second case is
applicable with respect to al-Awlaki, but if they have evidence to prove
it, they certainly haven't advanced it to the public," he says.
But
even if they have such evidence, he adds, "they haven't explained why
they don't simply have him arrested and brought back to stand charges
based on the crimes they believe he has committed, which appear to
include terrorist activities and perhaps treason. They obviously need
to explain why that approach won't work before they go dropping bombs
in circumstances that might kill large numbers of innocent civilians in
addition to killing al-Awlaki," Horton tells IPS.
Col. Morris
Davis, the Defense Department's former chief prosecutor for terrorism
cases who argued on behalf of a terrorism suspect that the military
justice system has been corrupted by politics and inappropriate
influence from senior Pentagon officials, tells IPS:
"The 5th
Amendment says U.S. citizens can't be 'deprived of life, liberty, or
property without due process of law.' If the Constitution prohibits the
government from taking your house without giving you a hearing and the
opportunity to defend yourself, it seems rather ironic that they might
take your life with even less formality and less process."
Glenn
Greenwald, constitutional lawyer and contributor to Salon.com, is
similarly troubled by the targeting policy. He concludes: "We really are
talking about a President who believes he has the right to send the
CIA to murder American citizens based purely on allegations and
suspicions of wrongdoing."



31 Comments so far
Show Allin the first Terminator, Arnold walks into a gun shop and requests several guns, then begins putting live shells into one of them...
the gun shop owner says, 'you can't do that'...
Arnold shoots him...
saying 'you can't do that' isn't effective...
monkey see, monkey do..................
Glad to see the ACLU and the Center for Constitutional Rights going to bat for the father of a hit list target, trying to reassert the rule of law in the context of the endless, amorphous global "war" on terror.
I still say the key to this macabre issue is where in the Constitution do we find a James Bond 007 license-to-kill power delegated to the spooks of the CIA in the first place? Those who drafted the Bill of Rights and who divvied up the enumerated powers of the federal government between the legislative, executive and judicial branches would be appalled to think 21st Century Americans would even be debating or litigating such a grotesque issue.
Only soldiers subject to the international laws of war, or executioners carrying out a judicially pronounced death sentence for conviction of a capital crime, have the legal authority to kill anybody in the name of the US government. Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, and the others who set up a constitutional form of government to substitute for the rule of tyrannical monarchs would be shocked at the notion that any President of the United States would ever dream of drawing up a hit list and sending forth assassins as an official tool of statecraft.
Bill from Saginaw
If these craven madmen were rulers in Britain circa 1770, Jefferson, Madison and Franklin would have been targeted.
"Those who drafted the Bill of Rights ... would be appalled to think 21st Century Americans would even be debating or litigating such a grotesque issue." –(Bill from Saginaw)
Who says this is even being 'debated,' despite the incipient litigation that is commencing?
This action– given the reality of present day America– seems all but a formality and an exercise in a futility, if not abject, all but foreshadowed in failure. The legal fraternity must proceed as if the rule of law actually exists– when in truth– it is scuttling in the shadow world of its aftermath, its demise.
I too, applaud, as you do, what the ACLU is doing here, but is not all this a foregone conclusion with a fascistic Supreme Court acting as the 'gatekeeper' of last resort?
Perhaps in the future historians will look back and determine that since the lawsuit was even filed to begin with, the capitulation to fascism in America cannot be dated as such until later.
In truth, that great American George W. Bush, has irrevocably superannuated the rule of law when he famously and correctly proclaimed, that the Constitution is 'just a piece of paper.' It has taken the noble Obama to prove just that.
What has taken place subsequent to Bush's declarative truth is a lot of 'smoke and mirrors,' laced with wishful thinking that 'action' may allay the fascist tide. What we are now seeing is not a resurgence of the rule of law, but its last gasps before it is throttled altogether.
My point being is at what point will we stop pretending?
The 'lunch is naked;' it must be eaten as such.
"We can`t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans." -William Jefferson Clinton March 11, 1993 President of ???? Where do the allegiances of these people lie ???????????? It is surely not with we ordinary people nor with our republic...Who do they work for & who do they think they are...? Above the law ? Apparently so and the only recourse is to wait to vote them out every few years ? Oh Joy...!
Ah, "Subject to International Laws of War, is what I have been wonering for years...Why hasn't anyone gone to The Hague? Yes, I recognize that The United States has never joined The International Court of Justice. However, criminals can be tried "In Absentia".....Crimes: Fabricating False Documents (See July 2006 Vanity Fair Article: "The War They Wanted;The Lies They Needed"), Perjury before the UN and Congress, Kidnapping, Illegal Detention, Torture, Brainwashing, Use of Chemicals (Phosphorous and Depleted Uranium), Support of Terrorist Organizatons (Al-Qaeda, Jundallah), and murder to name a few!
"Secret 'Kill Lists' Fly in the Face of US and Int'l Law"
The really sad part is that this simple concept has to be expained to most Americans...particularly to Obama, supposedly a constitutional lawyer and professor.
"Just murdering anybody you dont particularly like is WRONG??? Go figure.."
Just as sad is that most "reasonable" Americans see a difference between randomly murdering americans, and randomly murdering foreigners.
"Oh, its OK to murder HIM..he's not an American and has no right to live"
And when the days of glory for our “Christian Empire” have come and gone, when they have every able bodied man among us lined up against the wall and they call out, “Say a last prayer to that satanic god of yours,” then watch our gutless wonder High Society be the first ones to cry for mercy.
"Just as sad is that most "reasonable" Americans see a difference between randomly murdering americans, and randomly murdering foreigners." –(mujeriego)
And equally sad is that many Americans, reasonable, or not, don't see a problem either way.
The fascist mindset cares little for distinctions with differences.
The time is passing or has past when Americans will exempt only Americans from extra-judicial murder by a right wing state. The Obama legacy.
Today one of the more militant wings among the freedom fighters in Palestine, they were able to waste four Israelis during a shootout in the West Bank. So after the shooting, Netanyahu said he directed Israeli security forces to "pursue the attackers without any diplomatic restraint".
In other words do an Obama on them, an extrajudicial killing and instant assassination, even if the collateral damage is 100 Palestine women and children for ever militant shot dead or bombed dead.
What was that said about absolute power?
"saying 'you can't do that' isn't effective..." –(dubet)
–Yes, those days are gone in America.
And in truth, can anyone imagine a day when the rule of law in America has even an iota of moral efficacy, much less authority, coming back anytime soon? Of course not.
That is a contradiction in terms.
With a Supreme Court all but dedicated to legalizing a Fascist state?
"Stop shaking the tyrant's bloody robes in my face, or I will believe that you wish to put Rome in chains."
–(Maximilien Robespierre, "Virtue and Terror.")
"... one is when the person is in the act of a crime that threatens the lives of others, or serious injury to them, and no other means exists to stop him."
I submit that Obama is in the act of doing just what is described above--"in the act of a crime that threatens the lives of others," as his illegal attacks targeting Yeminis and Pakistanis illustrate, and is the primary reason he is Public Enemy #1. Such lists and crimes the US Empire has compiled and committed before and hundreds of thousands have died as a result. Damn, I'm so sick of this Evil Empire in our midst; it's end cannot come soon enough.
The only way we can have national security, is by making our highest priority the security of others. Surely our rich rulers comprehend this, and it leads me to suspect that the rich nobility of England, France and Spain have since 1776 always ruled our Empire. So in the end we get nuked by the world, so what, their far away across the pond.
Scott Horton says, "There are two ways the government can justify the extrajudicial killing of an American citizen: one is when the person is in the act of a crime that threatens the lives of others, or serious injury to them, and no other means exists to stop him; the other is in the context of a war."
It needs to be stressed that there is no war going on involving the U.S. There is no nation with a military force engaged against us. There are no troops, except ours, occupying foreign territory. There has been no declaration of war. Our troops have been deployed against a criminal gang (al Qaeda) and a defunct movement (the Taliban).
If ever anyone doubted that Obama didn't make good his pledge not to torture detainees, the admitted policy of assassinating even U.S. citizens who are merely suspected of being involved in terrorism removes all doubt. If assassinations are okay, then torture is just another tool of the U.S. government. If assassinations are okay, there's no hope Obama will ever do anything to hold accountable the architects of official torture.
Opposition to the "war" in Afghanistan (the hallmark of the MSM is the absence of the quotation marks) is growing in the U.S. Action like that of the ACLU and Center for Constitutional Rights will help eat away at the remaining support for Obama's illegal and immoral policies.
The author wrote: "Two of the nation's most influential human rights organisations have filed a lawsuit challenging the government's authority to carry out "targeted killings" of U.S. citizens located far from any armed conflict zone."
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So? A total of 89 Americans will know about this. You have no media and no government, my friend. Most of US media and ALL of US politicians are Zionist lap dogs.
If it's proven against the Constitution, they'll farm out the murder to the private sector...you know, the one that's a "person" and has rights to privacy.
Iraq just got privatized.
The ACLU is contributing to the incoherence of values that prevails in the USA, keeping the nation down in the swamp of immorality/corruption.
While the ACLU "pragmatically" challenges the monster with incremental charges, it leaves the fundamental violations by the monster entrenched deeply in the rotten status quo.
The activities of the CIA and the US military are absolutely unnecessary. In this case the ACLU actually supports the activities by failing to denounce them and the laws that enable them.
Specifically the ACLU should denounce the laws that ok (with no basis whatsoever) destroying life within conflict zones.
There are several billion people on the planet who embrace philosophies of peace (e,g, Buddhism) which puts philosophies of war wholly outside the universal mainstream.
The activities of the CIA and the US military are absolutely unnecessary because they are perpetrated as part of an imperial campaign.
You can convey this idea to anyone. Nobody can refute it. Tell the USan liberals and conservatives and watch them squirm away, off into the sunset in their 5 ton SUVs.
You have got to start somewhere. No one person or group is going to take on what you correctly describe. As you say, there are 6 billion people on earth. You can only be "part of the solution", but it would be wrong to desist from doing things because you cannot do it all at once, all alone.
Joe
What I find strange is that OilyBomber attended Wright's, the firebreather, Church for so many years and now is complacent enough to command a force with assassin teams. Special Operation Forces, based in 75 nations.
More and more I see this fascism as global and the USA more as a tool than an end.
Certainly there is not that love of country the Nazis had, not with the dismantling of USA's manufacturing base.
The USA now exports more raw material ( used cardboard, scrape metal, timber) than manufactured goods.
The USA is being treated akin to a used car being dismantled for it's parts.
Great analogy glenn ford. They will privatize and sell off anything they can get past public resistance. Someday we may see the National Parks or the Bill of Rights on ebay.
Joe
There is certainly blame enough to go around for this anti-human (and humane) and anti-Constitutional thinking and planning and action, but the most immediate counter move would be to completely eliminate the CIA - - the most diabolical institution ever to be added to our governmental stucture, thanks Allen Dulles and his co-conspirators. The world is now reaping the harvest of their perverted thionking!
If any one had any doubts that Obama has the same mind-set as Bush and his cronies, then his concept of 'targeted killings' should lay them to rest. It was a great day when we finally got a black president--too bad it was the wrong one.
Sorry, Col. Morris, that's not what the 5th amendment says. It doesn't say "American citizen" at all, not even once.
It actually says (my own emphasis added):
No PERSON shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any PERSON be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
No PERSON. That means the US doesn't to this to ANYBODY, anytime or anyplace.
But this is all smoke and mirrors.
There's already another term for "targeted killing."
The term is "murder," and last I checked it's against the law.
The "rules of war" are irrelevant because only congress can declare war, and congress hasn't done that.
So it's murder, pure and simple and no question about it.
But then it's ALL been murder, hasn't it?
Liberty and Justice,
sj
Good post Spartacus Jones. I did not remember that the Constitution explicitly includes everyone under basic judicial process. They may have been a bunch of slave-holding elitists, but the Founding Fathers got some things right. The Congress, the Executive, the DOJ and judges should know the law and follow it.
There is another phrase for "targeted kills" beside murder. It is called "putting out a contract". That is a practice of the mob. A lawful government has the right and the ability to investigate crimes, arrest people, confront them with the evidence and hold a fair trial. Short of that, you devolve into a criminal enterprise, with job opportunities for assassins, sadists and thugs. In these situations, prejudice, business and personal rivalries, grudges, and coveting can motivate who gets targeted. And who would know? Because the evidence is secret, you know, for national security reasons.
Joe
Joseph McCarthy ruined people verbally, so I guess the next step in insane neo- logic is to ruin people physically.
I do wonder though, as so many people were upset with Jimmy Carter's book, would he be considered a target now?
If the repugs take over will they decided that the dems who disagree are CIA fodder now?
If the dems stay in power, will they decided that those who oppose them are in for the same treatment?
Then too, I can just imagine a rogue CIA person whose family was runied by the Wall St. debacle. I suppose that such a person could consider any CEO on Wall St. a terrorist.
This is incredibly stupid and will, of course, come back to bite the very people who are waving their flags and pointing their weapons right now.
I suppose too, that for all of us, the Constitution has been condensed into one word, "DUCK!"
Unfortunately, rules to many become things our enemies fail to follow but that we "must" bend to be "safe".
It takes a strong society and strong people to defend principles contrary to their self-interest.
What a despicable nation the US has become.