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Is Using Dispersants on the BP Gulf Oil Spill Fighting Pollution with Pollution?
It remains unclear what impact chemical dispersants will have on sea life--and only the massive, uncontrolled experiment being run in the Gulf of Mexico will tell
Roughly five million liters of dispersants have now been used to break up the oil spilling into the Gulf of Mexico, making this the largest use of such chemicals in U.S. history. If it continues for 10 months, as long as Mexico's Ixtoc 1 blowout in 1979 in the same region, the Macondo well disaster has a good chance of achieving the largest global use of these chemicals, surpassing 10 million liters.
AERIAL ASSAULT: Some 3.5 million liters of dispersants were applied to the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, including spraying from aircraft like this U.S. Air Force C-130 on May 5. (U.S. Air Force Photo by Tech. Sgt. Adrian Cadiz) And there is no doubt that dispersants are toxic:
Both types of the dispersal compound COREXIT used in the Gulf so far
are capable of killing or depressing the growth of a wide range of
aquatic species, ranging from phytoplankton to fish. "It's a trade-off
decision to lessen the overall environmental impact," explained marine
biologist Jane Lubchenco, director of the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), at a press conference on May 12. "When an oil spill occurs, there are no good outcomes."
The trade-off in this case is the addition of toxic chemicals in a bid to protect the marshes of Louisiana and the beaches of Florida. But the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), for one, has become concerned about the toxicity of the most-used dispersant at the Gulf of Mexico spill-COREXIT 9500-and ordered BP to look at alternatives. (COREXIT 9527 was used earlier during the spill, but it was discontinued because it was considered too toxic.)
The problem? The EPA's industry-generated data is unclear as to the relative toxicity of various dispersants. "If you think the data on COREXIT is bad, try to find any decent toxicology data on the alternatives," says toxicologist Carys Mitchelmore of the University of Maryland's Chesapeake Biological Laboratory, who helped write a 2005 National Research Council (NRC) report on dispersants. "I couldn't compare and contrast which one was more toxic than the other based on that."
Dispersed oil Both COREXIT 9500 and 9527 are produced by Naperville, Ill.-based Nalco, a company better known for its water purification work with the oil industry. "For every barrel of oil produced, 3.5 barrels of water are produced," explains chemist Mani Ramesh, chief technology officer for Nalco. "That needs to be treated before it can be released. That water treatment has been a core area for us."
But at the same time Nalco keeps busy cleaning the oil industry's water, it also provides COREXIT, a product to minimize the impact of any oil that spills into the water. Developed in a joint venture with ExxonMobil, the compound is largely made at facilities in Sugarland, Tex., and Garyville, La. The company expects to sell some $40-million worth of COREXIT as a result of the latest spill. "What the dispersant process enables is to prevent the oil from reaching the shore and converts that oil to easy food for naturally occurring microbes," Ramesh says. "If the oil reaches the shore the decomposition rate of oil is so low it would remain on the shore for probably 100 years."
By last week, the EPA and Nalco had both released the ingredient list for COREXIT 9500 in response to widespread public concern. Its constituents include butanedioic acid (a wetting agent in cosmetics), sorbitan (found in everything from baby bath to food), and petroleum distillates in varying proportions-and it decomposes almost entirely in 28 days. "All six [ingredients] are used in day-to-day life-in mouthwash, toothpaste, ice cream, pickles," Ramesh argues. "We believe COREXIT 9500 is very safe."
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention agrees, noting in a document for health professionals that "the dispersants contain proven, biodegradable and low-toxicity surfactants," which are "detergentlike" and "in low toxicity solvents."
However, those solvents-petroleum distillates-are also known animal carcinogens, according to toxicology data, and make up 10 to 30 percent of a given volume of COREXIT. And those same everyday products can be deadly to wildlife. "It's the same products in Dawn dishwasher soap," Mitchelmore notes, which is being used widely to clean up oiled birds and other animals. "I wouldn't want to put a fish in Dawn dishwashing soap either. That would kill it."
As a result, the EPA ordered BP to stop spraying dispersants on the oil slick on May 26. The EPA also ordered BP to look for less toxic alternatives on May 20, and the company responded in a letter dated that same day that "BP continues to believe that COREXIT EC9500A is the best alternative." The dispersant continues to be sprayed onto the ongoing oil spill.
No alternative One reason BP can make such claims is due to a lack of clear data on any of the alternative dispersants. As part of the National Contingency Plan required for offshore drilling, one of 18 EPA-approved dispersants must be on hand to handle spilled oil. Each of those dispersants has been preapproved for use, and each of those dispersants has been tested-by the companies that make them-for toxicity using representative species of estuarine shrimp (Mysidopsis bahia) and fish (Menidia beryllina). Specifically, these animals are exposed to a mix of one liter of dispersant for every 10 liters of heavy fuel oil in water.
Yet, the results of those tests vary wildly, from toxic impacts occurring at levels of just 2.6 parts per million for COREXIT to 100 ppm for another dispersant, NOKOMIS 3-F4. That suggests to experts that the tests which showed lower toxicity may have employed heavy fuel oil that had lost its potency. After all, volatile organic compounds in oil evaporate quickly when exposed to air and can even wash off in water. "These are order of magnitude differences," Mitchelmore notes. "A lot of that can relate to how those tests were set up."
Adds Nalco toxicologist Sergio Alex Villalobos, "If the oil is aged, then the oil loses its toxicity. Using an oil that is not very toxic, if you disperse that oil you are going to get very favorable numbers. Do those numbers really exist?"
EPA, for its part, did not show the best understanding of toxicological data in making its recommendations, urging BP to use dispersants with less than a certain cutoff of toxicity (pdf). Of course, in toxicology the lower the concentration the more toxic a given substance is. "They completely got that wrong," Mitchelmore says. EPA is now undertaking its own toxicology testing of COREXIT and Louisiana crude oil, but results are pending.
Nevertheless, just 20 ppm of COREXIT 9500-or one drop in 2.5 liters of water-inhibits growth of Skeletonema costatum, a Gulf of Mexico diatom, according to toxicology test data presented in the 2005 NRC report. It appears to inhibit the phytoplankton's ability to perform photosynthesis, specifically blocking part of the biochemistry that enables the photosystem II complex, Villalobos says. "Skeletonema seems to fall among the most sensitive ones," he says. "Like many aquatic plants, these are organisms that are resilient, that tend to come back even though you wipe them out in some cases chemically."
COREXIT is also not approved for use in U.K. waters because it fails the so-called "limpet test". That test involves spraying the dispersant and oil on rocks and seeing if limpets (a type of small mollusk) can still cling to them, a test which COREXIT and many other dispersants with slippery surfactants fail. "This is not a product for rocky shores," Villalobos says. "These are only for open sea waters."
Novel use Of course, in the case of the oil spewing from BP's Macondo well in the Gulf of Mexico, COREXIT is being used in another unapproved way. A wand from one of the remote-operated robots has sprayed more than 1.5 million liters of dispersants directly onto the escaping oil and natural gas roughly 1,500 meters beneath the ocean's surface. "I don't think anybody knows what would happen by applying the dispersants at depth," Ramesh says. "We do not have any knowledge that would allow us to predict what would happen."
In addition to creating subsurface plumes (and providing a rich feast for oil-eating microbes), it remains unclear what kind of dosage of dispersed oil sea life throughout the water column is facing. NOAA measurements show that levels reach 100 ppm of dispersed oil in the first half-meter of water, dropping to 12.5 ppm at 10 meters and unknown levels even deeper. "There isn't any information on what is the environmentally relevant level of dispersant," Mitchelmore notes. "Dispersed oils are going to be toxic, particularly in the top 10 meters that contains all the sensitive life stages. Anything that has sensitive membranes can be affected by dispersants and dispersed oil."
Sunlight falling on the dispersed oil may make the problem worse through a phenomenon known as phototoxicity. Compounds in the oil act as a catalyst to transfer some of the sun's energy into oxygen, converting the latter to a more reactive state that can literally burn up cells. And as fish and other sea life ingest the dispersed oil, it can be broken down into more toxic by-products. "What do these things break down into?" Mitchelmore says. "In toxicology it's quite often not the original compound that's the toxic entity."
Ultimately, the problem is that too little is known about the dispersants and the dispersed oil. "Given that this is a billion-dollar industry, why were those data gaps not filled?" Mitchelmore asks. "The whole issue regarding limited toxicity data-that's not just common to dispersants, that's common to tens of thousands of chemicals we're putting out into the environment daily."
After all, it was only after decades of using bisphenol A, polybrominated flame retardants and other chemicals that significant concerns began to manifest. In effect, usage replaced safety testing-and that's exactly what is happening with dispersants and the massive spill in the Gulf. Different regulation of chemicals and the chemical industry might forestall toxicological mysteries like those surrounding dispersants-and their thousands of chemical cousins-in the future.
"We're using an awful lot of dispersants," said EPA administrator Lisa Jackson during the same May 12 press briefing on the chemical's use at which NOAA's Lubchenco spoke. "This is going on longer than one might have known on day three or four. We're still dealing with a constant release of fresh oil and we need to continue to disperse."
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Show AllThis excerpt from the article is very telling and highlights a big part of the problem:
"...As a result, the EPA ordered BP to stop spraying dispersants on the oil slick on May 26. The EPA also ordered BP to look for less toxic alternatives on May 20, and the company responded in a letter dated that same day that "BP continues to believe that COREXIT EC9500A is the best alternative." The dispersant continues to be sprayed onto the ongoing oil spill..."
This clearly shows that the EPA, Congress and Pres. Obama are following orders from BP and not the other way round. This, despite the hypocrisy, lies and rhetoric.
If COREXIT is so safe why has it been banned in the UK and most of Europe?
If it is so safe, I want to see Pres. Obama, the entire Senate, Tony Hayward and the rest of the board of BP, and senior officials at the EPA drink an 8 oz. glass of it on live TV.
If not directly drink an 8 oz. glass, then at least wash a plate in it and then lick the plate.
I suggested something similar to those who think it is OK to build bombs containing depleted uranium. I asked many people if they would place a piece of metal furniture made of DU in their home. Not one person answered yes.
I wouldn't call it an experiment. An experiment involves scientific rigor.
This is dumping crap in order to make the ocean surface look . . . well, less appalling.
Destroying evidence is not an "experiment."
Excellent point. Perhaps in an emergency you cannot have a full scientific test, but you can review literature and do some sample testing. Nothing like that was done.
Joe
Let's use the right language, please. Since this debacle is both "massive" and "uncontrolled," it in no way resembles a scientific experiment. Calling it an "experiment" dignifies it to some degree, as though an intelligent group of scientists is ready to tally the results.
This is not an experiment. It's deliberate ecocide and a crime against the planet. There's no science involved except the wild-ass guesses of shocked ecologists who have no friggin' clue where this will end up. Personally, I think we're about to learn that ecocide equals genocide, and that ecocide is not punishable (precedent: Exxon Valdez).
A question.
Instead of demanding that BP hand over money to him why didn't Obama demand that they stop doing this?
I'm not a scientist, but I agree that this debacle is not an "experiment" in the scientific sense of the term.
It might be accurate to characterize it as an "experiment" in the broader, colloquial sense, e.g. "I experimented with angel dust once or twice when I was a teenager."
It's more of a lethal "prank", really.
More like the eight year-old who experiments with daddy's gun and shoots his best friend through the head... Never shoulda happened...
Everyone so far expressed my concerns.,
That damn o enforcing a No_Fly_Zone over the Gulf
making it a war zone.....
We should throwing everyone one of them in Guantanimo
with no charges, for ten years, with torture, then
prosecute them with a citizens tribunal , without lawyers
The NOAA's Jane Lubchenco was responsible for the original 5,000 BPD estimate. She chose the methodology used to estimate the 'spill', which was a methodology contingent on the blowout happening in shallow waters, and NO use of dispersants. A doctor of science, with a straight face apparently, expected us to believe that the gusher only amounted to 2.43 gallons per second for all leaks combined. She stood by that absurdity for weeks.
Now she tells us that in essence, the use of dispersants is okay, because it is merely a trade off.
She really doesn't deserve the position she has, and is a danger to this earth.
BP, all kinds of things are banned in the UK and Europe, and you feel free to use those things in the U.S.?
COREXIT, I'm sorry but this branding of " Corrects it," is just too cute for realiability! What exactly does IT correct...your liability?
ALL RIGHT, here's what I want: I want BP to sign a response letter that NO HARM will come of this. I want those in Congress and the EPA, and government employees who will publically support this to sign this too.
IF YOU BELIEVE, then sign off on this. If you sign and it fails, then you will be dragged through court for the rest of your lives, and there will be no one to blame except your selves! NO government to hide behind, no corporate curtain to hide behind.
You sign that it's safe and it's YOUR BEHIND!
Screw transparency, I want ACCOUNTABILITY!
The primary aim of any dispersant is to spread, breakup the pollutant. For a short term limited spill, this can be used to ensure a limited amount of oil is spread so thinly, that fewer areas suffer a highly visible amount of pollutant. For a leak of massive size, and so far it appears to be of unlimited duration, any regions that are within the natural range of spread of the oil are already doomed. Toxic dispersant when used continuously in this case, if it works at all, will act to ensure even more widespread total obliteration.
The dispersant is being used because BP wants to show it is doing something. Its part of the BP range of PR trickery. It might be better to leave the oil as it is, clumpy and concentrated. There is then more chance then that some more regions might escape. But of course affected areas become so much more obviously oily, and will not be great for the cameras.
I cannot imagine that rates of manufacture and spray of toxic dispersant can be sufficient in magnitude to match that of the leak, or will be well mixed with the leak sufficient to cope with totality oil leaked. The shortfall and mismatch could be extreme, to the extent that there will be a lot of dispersant where there is not any oil. Then the toxic dispersant strategy is worse than useless. If the oil does not kill , the dispersant will.
"usage replaced testing"
story of all american industry today, including medicine (think pharmaceuticals).
no mention of b.ho going to 'bama & eating some seafood "from the gulf"? is there any industry he won't fellate?
everything thing they do is 1st intended as a PR exercise. and to limit liability. BP, obama, et al don't give a fig for the gulf.
the situation is perhaps far, far worse than we can imagine. our "betters" know this too, and lie to us constantly b/c they know the truth would probably lead to insurrection, the only thing they really fear.
Prophecy or Prophesy,
which is your desire?
Prophecy and Prophesy,
they're setting the
world on fire........
Spraying these dispersants is only making matter worse.
Ladies and gentleman, boys and girls gather round.
As you are aware, most of our "so called" representatives in Wor-shing-ton, are bought and paid for by these rapacious and malevolent bastards of "Big Oil."
If the Gulf of Mexico is filled with oil and toxic dispersants then guess what? The entire Gulf will undoubtedly be turned into one huge "Oil Park." Not a theme park at Disney, an oil park where "Big Oil" can continue to have their way, raping and pillaging this once pristine body of water. So dam sad. It didn't have to be this way.
What is happening is beyond comprehension. And “NO!” amount of hearings is going to rectify the damage done. BP has opened a possible extinction level can of worms and sadly, “We the People” have no say in this matter.
God help the people and the sea and wildlife all along the Gulf Coast.
OMG, I just heard the oil gushing out of the gulf is highly radioactive. God only knows what this might mean for gulf residents not to mention the wildlife.
I, too, just ran across a couple of different articles on the subject of the oil being radioactive.
Does anyone know anything more about this?
I don't know anything about it, but a quick Google search landed a few dubious and speculative multiple-hearsay, echo-chamber blog reports alleging that individuals had checked tar balls with a Geiger counter and gotten positive readings. Pretty shaky stuff. I didn't check more than a few sites, but nothing authoritative, or worth linking, leaped out from the search list.
I don't think it's at the OMG stage. The Google search itself shows the potential for escalating rumor and innuendo, because of the references to "radioactivity" both as a consequence of detonating a nuclear device to collapse the hole, and the unfortunate use of "radioactive" as a metaphor, i.e. a "radioactive" issue.
Anything's possible. I recommend keeping an open mind and eye to see if anything stronger than anecdotal claims surface.
PS: Even if the "OMG" comment proves to have no basis in fact, I don't see why it was flagged.
No matter how good they make those hearigs
sound to the public, that is all they will be
just pacifications for the public.
Remember all those hearings Conyers, Waxman
Levin and the rest had when they took control
of congress after the 06 elections? They sounded
so good, we thought, they're getting them now.
As soon as the public got tire of watching and forgot
about the hearings, so did they.
All our environmental groups are bought and paid for.
I believe it is time to start another one, kind of
like the old EarthFirst..that took on the logging ind
until it got infiltrated. We need to shut those rigs
down ourselves., Defy the No_Fly_Zone, and the No_Boat_Zone
go to jail, go to court, I am ready......!!!!!!!!!
Munich: Excellent post!
Thank you Peaceman.
I just wish this were all just a dream, one we could all awaken from. It is reality and so dam surreal, so dam sad.
With BP's horrendous track record, how is it they were even granted permission to continue to gouge the sea floor? Abusing it with reckless abandon, just so dam insane!
Take care,
Munich: From what I read and saw on the news last month, BP has the most safety violations of any of the large oil companies, and the fines levied on that corporation are small in comparison to the profits they rake in year after year.
Politicians spend so much time looking for campaign contributions, meeting with corporate mouthpieces (lobbyists) quite often, and with money in one hand and a corporate-written law, rule or regulation in the other hand, they manage most of the time to have our so-called representatives--which they aren't--legislate on behalf of the corporate bosses.
Eight destructive years of right-wing rule by the Bush/Cheney Crime Family, who axed environmental laws for the benefit of their corporate cronies and we wind up with this disaster. Look how the Republican from Texas, Joe Barton sided with BP against Congress, the other day. Sickening!
Keep the faith, Munich.
Relevant satire:
http://www.flixxy.com/bp-spills-coffee-satire.htm
stardust said:
'BP, all kinds of things are banned in the UK and Europe, and you feel free to use those things in the U.S.?'..........
do you mean like the u.s. used depleted uranium in iraq?????......................
Well isn't this good. Been lots of Articles at many Sites written about the overpopulation problem so many people seemed to be worried about in their Articles. Some people are saying the thing in the Gulf is lots worse than your being told. If they are right then that will go a long ways to solving the overpopulation problem.
Maybe it's not the solution the writers were considering. Perhaps Mamma Earth is going to abort you as many people write in favor of abortion, but again perhaps this isn't what you had in mind. Perhaps you weren't thinking in terms of these things being you.
Then suddenly something out somewhere happens and then it could be you. Kind of wait and see. Perhaps in a few years 1000's, 100,000's, millions or ever billions could be dying.
Wait and see. If it gets into the millions or billions numbers then the odds and probabilities are really good it could be you. Wait and see. Even if it's not you things could really get real bad upon the earth. Perhaps far worse than you can even imagine at this moment.
Imagine, I wonder if you can?
If your young your odds and probabilities are way better than mine because I'm already headed to final cash register of your world in a life that is nothing more than a series of cash registers with the final cash register being The Funeral Home as you call the place.
Vampires waiting to sell my family a vain big sendoff for me if they can do such a thing so they can line their pockets with a little more money in your Vampire World.
I wanted to fix up my casket with sensors so when someone got close enough to the casket I would pop up and waive my arms around. Have a tape that would say, I am not dead. I am not dead.
Just another day closer to the end of my journey through an insane world. My work is done. The weekend is here. Time to enjoy the weekend. Kick back, relax. Who knows the way things are going my journey through this insane world may have been sped up by oil gushing out of the Gulf?
If one thing don't get you just another will eventually.
Life is good. What an experience! It's always best to forgive.
'Who knows the way things are going my journey through this insane world may have been sped up by oil gushing out of the Gulf?'.............
that will be very sad shadowdancer. to think you've come all this way and then have your life prematurely ended by some pathetic non-entity named tony hayward..........
(not to mention all the beautiful creatures who will also be dispatched )
I love Tony Heyward, Coco. He's only human. This old Indian understands he has to eat, too.
Life is good. What an experience! It's always best to forgive.
Believe it or not, it gets worse. on the helium webisite
they are reporting that geologists warned BP twelve months
before this blew that the Horizen was probably on top of a
huge methane deposit with 100,000psi pressure, and that is
the probable cause of the blow.
And that signs that this was the cause would be breaches
in the ocean floor that we already know are there,
but the really bad part is that the methane deposit might
blow, causing a tsunami that would wipe out the whole state
of Florida and much of the Gulf States, leaving behind
a poisonous gas that will kill millions......OH, Crap!!!
We're screwed
oh crap!!! i'd rather be fucked than screwed............
Coco.....I hear ya!
hiya peaceman..........you'd better hurry if you want to visit europe!!!!
Hi Coco.......2011 for sure!
BABOON: You're right about the methane gas, which is worse than CO2 for the environment. What a mess, but this is just the beginning of the end of so-called civilization as we know it. Some people with expertise in the oil industry have said they may not be able to close or seal the well, because of extreme pressure from drilling that deep and the oil may just keep pouring into the Gulf until the well runs dry.
I've been wondering what happens if we have a big hurricane and it spreads the oil and toxic dispersants over wide areas of land including farm land. Has anyone thought of the impact of that?
Just four ships,that were waiting in the Netherlands to be called,could have swept up the whole mess,instead of using 568 ships,that totally failed.They used toxic chemicals instead,because of the false pride of the Americans,who did not want to call for outside help.Those four ships were capable to sweep up 1000M³per hour.And look at the mess now.What a dear price the poor people have to pay,who are affected by this criminal negligence.But who can bring the guilty parties to justice?For the same reason nobody gets called onto the carpet to take responsibility for that illegal war in Iraq or the vengeful exercise in Afghanistan.And how come,that the mighty US of A fails to catch Osama bin Laden?Is that because the CIA trained him too well,when he was groomed to fight the USSR?
I saw a piece on CNN recently about a man who devised something that would soak up the oil in the water without harming anything. The main ingredient I believe was peat moss. He even demonstrated it. It soaks up the oil and can then be skimmed away. BP wouldn't get back to him.
Yet when you talk about nationalizing the energy companies, it's called Nazism, as if the corporatists are not.
If we did nationalize them, we could then convert all our fuels to clean, renewable, sustainable ones.
Are the elites misanthropes? They have to be.
They have no shame, they are all
cheaters, liers, murderers, and thieves.
They don't care about your phone calls, faxes,
emails, or letters. They don't care about you.
The sooner Americans realize this ,the better
You are no more to them than the ones they are
killing in Afghan, Iraq, Somalia, Yeamen, Columbia,
Pakistan, and a bunch more nations. You are nothing
to them, that is why I don't sign nothing anymore.
I just makes them feel that much more potent.
Since I don't believe they can even tie their shoes
by themselves, it is best to leave them alone
and let them count their $$$$$$$$$, that is all they
are good at and good for. I hope all Americans soon
get the silly notion out of their head that we have
a political process left. And by the way, all those
nice hearings they having, you know, Markey , Stupppkkk,
Waxman, Conyers, all of them, they sound real good ,don't they?
Well they are just public show, I forgot to add that besides
counting money, they are real good actors, that is how
they got where they are anyhow. So save yourself some
frustration and just realize
WE'RE SCREWED.
Baboon,
I know we need real election campaign reform to save our political system of government. Without it we will continue on the path we are on now which is only leading us further and further into HELL.
Unlike you I still believe that there are honest men and women who hold political office. I respect Bart Stuppack as he is an honest man who has always stood up for the rights of the unborn even when it meant his follow Democrats opposed him. It was with saddness I heard that he was retiring. Ed Markey of MA is also a passionate man who really has his heart in the right place and would be a good Senator from MA if he ever decides to run against Scott Brown, lol.
I don’t think the hearings are just for public show. I do think Congress is really trying to do the right thing, but that it is the White House who seems to lack the moral character to tell the truth. Some might ask why I feel that our White House lies? It is because so many people say Obama has lied to them and doesn’t tell the truth.
Here we go again. In EUROPE a product CAN NOT be brought to market, until it is proven safe. In the UNITED STATES a product can come to market without being proven safe and CAN NOT be taken off the market until it is PROVEN to be dangerous. Somebody has their heads up their asses, and it isn't the Europeans!
"The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity."
Joe
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Here is what the European Maritime Safety Agency has to say about oil spill dispersants: ( a comprehensive risk / benefit analysis)
http://documents.plant.wur.nl/imares/dispersants/06emsa.pdf
Wow this is a great read for a Saturday mornin....Along with all that jolly sh-t what about the fact that with all these poisons and havoc being forced onto our enviroment that dead animals by the millions are going to start floating in the merk and with no animals to eat the carcusses perhaps the plague will ensue and with a good breeze disease will spread to the population and I guess with the cracked ocean bed the fumes in the clouds and hurricanes.......well I guess Obama will get what he deserves for being the great liar and tricking people into believing in him ..as being the worst most lives lost 2012 hell on earth President...the black thing won't even matter anymore. Mr. PEACE PRIZE my as$#%%
razormirror,
I do understand your frustrations and I believe many Americans are feeling angry and lied to by our President. Like the boy who cried wolf to many times and when he finally told the truth no one believed him, I believe we are quickly coming to the place where many Americans and people all around the world think President Obama lies and his words can't be trusted. It is a sorry state of affairs when one can't trust their own President to tell the truth.
"It is a sorry state of affairs when one can't trust their own President to tell the truth."
It's not just el Presidente, it's the whole gamut of any/all of authority over people.
Clinton wasn't a dickweasle. He told the world so.
And Nixon wasn't a crook. He told the world so.
How far do you want to go back or forward in the cavalcade of esteemed presidents?
The title of the piece asks a question, and the writer uses a powerful lot of words to answer, "Yup."