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Report: Gaddafi's Son, Three Grandchildren Killed in NATO Strike
TRIPOLI - Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi survived a NATO airstrike on Saturday night that killed his youngest son Saif al-Arab and three of his grandchildren, a Libyan government spokesman said.
EDITOR'S NOTE: PICTURE TAKEN ON GUIDED GOVERNMENT TOUR Damage which the Libyan government said was caused by a coalition air strike is seen at the house of Saif Al-Arab Gaddafi, son of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, in Tripoli April 30, 2011.
(Credit: Reuters/Louafi Larbi)
Mussa Ibrahim said Saif al-Arab was a civilian and a student who had studied in Germany. He was 29 years old.
Libyan officials took journalists to the house, which had been hit by at least three missiles. The roof had completely caved in in some areas, leaving strings of reinforcing steel hanging down among chunks of concrete.
A table football machine stood outside in the garden of the house, which was in a wealthy residential area of Tripoli.
(Reporting by Lin Noueihed; Editing by Matthew Jones)
118 Comments so far
Show AllMurdering civilians is the only thing NATO is effective at doing.
Isn't that labelled "terrorism"?
Only if he does it :( another $2 million+ shot! Send in the Legion two privates should be able to pick him up by suppertime tommorow.
No wonder we're broke.!
>^^<
"Isn't that labelled "terrorism"?"
In the sociopathically twisted and Orwellian world of the USG and the M$M, it is called "spreading democracy".
Yes...NATO: just another name for state terrorism. When assholes like Obama and Sarkozy want to get re-elected, no one is safe.
One more son-of-an-enemy-leader to go, and Obama ties Dubya Bush. I wonder if Obama is keeping score . . .
with regards to demille..altho I have heard that
things unpublishable as nonfiction have a better
chance as fiction...I think I'll pass on a super-
market novelist.....when you're done with a 99 cent
novel, what are you left with....uncomfortable toilet
paper and damn little else. Besides, from what I
understand, once again, the us is trying to kill
someone who provides for libyans better that the
scrum in this country etc etc
.
See & read =Lion's Game= by Nelson DeMille= (which may have triggered 9/11) and the fairly recent sequel.
Trylon
I always thought it was Tom Clancy's "Debt of Honor" where his charactor an airline pilot takes a 747 and flys it into the White House!
>^^<
"who could have imagined!"
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Regrettably, in =Lion's Game= DeMille mentions the World Trade Center towers, mentions the possible effect of aviation fuel, and speculates that as many as 25,000 persons could die, because that was the peak working population held by the buildings.
I remembered this IMMEDIATELY on 9/11, when I got the television on between airplane strikes one and two, and began shrieking "Lion's Game! Lion's Game!" but nobody knew what I meant.
Trylon
Are you -still- buying the Official Government Version of 9/11?
I don't know much about an "official government version". I buy the rational thinker's version of the events on Sept. 11 2001.
Yes, Reagan and Thatcher tried and PanAm 103 fell on Scotland as a result.
Only damn fools will fly on planes of NATO nations after this assassination.
Heads of state and their issue are all at risk now but it should really be heads of Big Oil Companies...
Orchard keeper...Thanks for remembering that. I was going to make the same comment about the USA slaughter of the 3 year-old girl.
The killing of children and other civilians has been part of US rules of engagement for decades. Remember the Madeleine Albright comment on 60 Minutes - ...'that the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children was worth it...'.
I wonder how US citizens would feel if OUR children were targeted.
Athletic medals are taken back when the holder is found to have gained them improperly. Can the Norwegian Nobel Committee take back the Nobel Peace Prize it gave to Obama?
I suppose the Nobel Committee could, but it wouldn't. Its prizes are meant for first-worlders who maintain the good old hegemony, and third-worlders who either rock the boat in its favor, or who are, from the West's point of view, harmless window-dressing or useful propaganda.
Obama's their guy.
Geez, who would've figured that a humanitarian intervention would cause so much unfortunate collateral damage?
Well, it's nothing that can't be made right by either a phony apology or spinning the facts so that this is somehow Gaddafi's fault.
Way to go NATO.
I am utterly ashamed that Canada was part and party to this atrocity. Mr. Harper, this innocent blood is on your hands.
That's how I feel as a US citizen as well. I am saddenned and disgusted.
I second that. Layton is six points behind Harper at the moment and closing fast. Lets hope he puts an end to playing toady to NATO and the American Empire project.
if killing peasants half way around the world is an Olympic event,...............
http://tinyurl.com/q7yts5
Interesting method of "protecting civilians". Chalk up yet another war crime. It's almost as if there's a deliberate run at breaking a Guiness record or something.
An additional creepy note was that tag on the picture" picture taken on guided government tour!" how pathetic is that? maybe we should get that same warning label on all of our news, pictures, and films?
nice going, Reuters!
Gadafi has killed more than a thousand of his own people (so far) and would have killed thousands more if the UN had not okay'd the no fly zone.
That does not justify killing of civilians by NATO forces but it does happen in war. They were not targeting children. Gadafi started his civil war himself by having his military kill many of the once peacefl protesters, including many women and children. I don't hear Gadafi's son crying about the thousand plus innocent civilians his family killed.
I believe it is totally wrong to target Gadafi and bomb his personal quarters. That is not what the UN authorized. They authorized stopping murder of innocent civilians and to do that required taking out Gadafi's military, tanks, aircraft, and artillary and allow the rebels a chace of a fair fight. Allow them to remove Gadafi if they should prevail.
Gadafi has blocked the shipment of relief food and water and medical supplies by mining a port, shelling a city and killing and wounding many innocent civilians who are not even fighting him.
Bullshit. The UN authorized a no-fly-zone period not the war the craps a NATO and the cabal of Obama, Cameron and the French thing have inflicted on the place.
WayneWR, you shouldn't really believe everything just because Obama says so. Here are some statements from a non-White House source: http://rt.com/usa/news/libya-intervention-gaddafi-obama/
- US President Barack Obama overexaggerated the humanitarian angle used to justify military action in Libya, claimed intervention was necessary to prevent a bloodbath, argue some human rights activists.
- A report by Human Rights Watch shows that Gaddafi was not deliberately killing civilians but rather targeting armed rebels fighters who were targeting his government.
-Alan J. Kuperman, a professor at the University of Texas argued there is simply no evidence Gaddafi was targeting civilians, therefore there is no possibility Obama could have had evidence or reason to enter Libya and begin a military intervention.
... He argued that Gaddafi is targeting rebel fighters. There was never a bloodbath of civilians at the hands of Gaddafi.
-Gaddafi said he would show no mercy to rebels, he did not speak about civilians. He even said rebel fighters who laid down their arms and surrendered would receive mercy, explained Kuperman.
- “He made clear would not target civilians,” he said. “Obama exaggerated the threat.” The US lead NATO intervention has prolonged the war. Had there been no intervention the civil war would have ended in March Kuperman argued. “My rough guess at this point is we have actually increased the net suffering to civilians in Libya,” he said.
If a Merkan needs a rationalization for his 4x world average plunder rate, his master, the occupant of the whitey house, will certainly deliver it.
Excellent well reasoned response. I find it amazing that those excusing our role in this mess are using the same illogic they did with Iraq. We apparently have learned nothing about how we are manipulated by the media.
There are many people who want to be manipulated. It's a form of co-dependency, which is why they close their ears to facts, reasoned argument, critical thinking... anything that will force them to own up and take responsibility for themselves, their actions, and their beliefs. It's so much easier to sit in front of the tube and be spoon fed single syllable baby food, versus getting a job, earning money, buying groceries, fixing meals, cleaning up, etc.
The UN did not "just authorize" a (no fly zone)..They specifically authorized NATO to "prevent" Gadaffi and his military from killing or murdering people. Just a no fly zone would not have prevented the killings of thousands and any sensible person would understand that. The day the no fly zone began Gaddafi was prepared to kill thousands of his own people.
Read what the UN directive says.
And Gaddafi was not just killing rebels, those who began with peaceful demonstrations. His troops bombed and shelled cities and towns and still are, even hospitals, just firing away, not really caring what they hit. His troops have killed more than a thousand civilians so far, women, children, (anyone). That "rough guess" is flat wrong, the Texas professor didn't have the evidence and intell the UN and NATO had. Guesses is what is bullshit any some here rely on it. . .
Being "far left" is not Progressive, it's as bad as those who are "far to the right". Some here are totally ignorant of the truth and the facts of what was ocurring there. And I'm fully aware there are some rebel factions there who are also not good.
Look at the entire picture instead of the fact that a few innocent civilians have been killed by NATO forces, that is "very few" in comparrison to what Gaddafi was and is doing, and keep in mind, if you can, that Gaddafi has been a brutal dictator for more than 40 years. His people rightfully protested his dictatorship and rebeled and they asked for help from the world community. We would do the same if a dictator ever took over our country.
I am not one who favors ANY war, any killing, but I do support the UN and NATO on this one. You may think otherwise. I also believe Obama should have pulled our troops out of Iraq and Afghan and had them all out by the week after he was swon in
Some of you here don't mind if Gaddafi kills thousands but you do mind that NATO is attempting to prevent that from happening. Again, NATO forces should not be attempting to assinate Gaddafi. That is also outright wrong.
And the Iraqis were throwing newborn babies out of their incubaters.
I suggest you NOT believe what the western media tells you. It is so bad an envoy for that freedom loving United states of America has claimed that..
Ghaddafi has proscribed viagra to his troops so that they are better able to rape women.
The stories of civilian massacres have no credibility whatsoever which is the same boat you are in.
Wouldn't it be the part of prudence not to believe ANYone's self-serving claims?
In law there's a concept called "against interest". Statements made that conflict with one's own interests tend, for some strange reason, to be more readily believed than those that support one's interests, which are typically dismissed as wujaexpect.
So why believe what Qaddafi says, either? Surely his claims of "only targeting rebels" are just as self-serving as the same claims by the US in Afghanistan and Iraq.
It wasn't a "nice try", it was factual and honest. You're a step behingd.
Gaddafi forces may not have fired the missile that killed his son and grandchrildren, but don't think for a second that mind deranged man was and is not capable of doing it for sympathy and adverse opinions from the world community. NATO says there were absolutly no aircraft that fired any missile or dropped any weapons near that local at that time. Do you trust the word of Gaddafi? I don't. I don't absolutly trust the word of NATO either. Someone is lying. I trust Gaddafi far less.
It definently was and is however his troops who have killed more than a thousand people so far and they didn't and don't care who they kill.
The UN authorized NATO to stop Gaddafi from killing thousands of his own people and that did not mean just a no fly zone.
So right.
Hey, remember Bin Laden's underground lair?
Check it out. It's looking like Osama had turn down service in Tora Posh.
http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/nether_fictoid3.htm
Everything they say crap. It was crap then, and it's crap now
And they wonder why some people don't buy into their 9/11 fable.
Just sayin.'
Not credible? Where do you derive your information? Oh, from "credible" sources.
You are wrong as are your sources Gadddifi's troops had killed hundreds before the UN acted and would have killed thousands who had asked and begged for assistance, as the protesters could not fight aricraft, tanks, artillary and a mobilized well trained army, troops who killed anyone they pleased.
I don't mind criticizing Obama at all, he deserves much criticism, but on this one he was correct, as was the UN.
So, what give the U.S. and its 'benevolent' circle of thugs the right to bomb or invade anyone? You must still think the U.S. has some divine right, that acts in the interests outside of itself. It doesn't. America, its foreign policies over decades, along with its Guns-R-Us arsenal and with its western accomplices, are responsible for more death and destruction ever known in the history of civilization. We most likely started this 'rebellion' and now since it didn't pan out (as usual) Washington comes out from their hidy-hole and brings the hammer down.
For our thugs to oust another one's thug-in-chief only assures more 'thuggism'. Change must come from within, not from without.
The U.N., NATO and Washington are the Axis of Evil. You can throw-in the weasels at the Chamber of Commerce as a bonus evildoer.
Besides, you aren't there, and believing any story line that the Western Press or Washington spews out of their lying, filthy mouths is silly. They have no creditability whatsoever at this point.
One day we will all pay a very real price for all this shit. On a more positive note, at least the rest of the world finally be free of us.
cut off the head and the snake dies
Sadly, removing Israel wont halt USA torture, DU, terrorist drone bombers or other atrocities.
Um, anybody see the similarity to the "punchout" hole in the Pentagon?
http://beyondpoliticsand911.com/photogallery/albums/userpics/10001/Pentagon-punch-out-hole-2.jpg
I saw it and almost fell over, looks exactly the same. Glad I am not the only one who noticed this. Do you know of any more pics from this Libya missle attack?, would be good to save them before they are pulled once people start making the comparison, also would be good to find out what type of missle was used here.
Good EYE!
Now that you mention it...
are you suggesting they flew a 757 into g'daffy's place?
Very sad about the three children. No child deserves that. Heart wrenching really.
Wonder how Obama sleeps at night or any of those soldiers who just carried out this attack? Oh yeah, they'll just call it collateral damage and forget about it and remind us they are "war hero's" - *puke*. Just nations have trials. This was an attempt at execution without trial. Damn the consequences of the innocent people killed - it's exactly like the US drone strikes -no thought for the lives of the innocents. And, innocent people are always the most likely killed in these kind of attacks. The UN just behaved like the US Army - like terrorists!
How would you like cops who constantly go after criminals - kill at least 3 times as many innocents for each criminal they're chasing and often miss the criminals altogether - just killing innocent people - then remind us all how *dangerous* their jobs are even though they kill thousands to one of themselves getting killed and tell us they're keeping us *safe*? We'd put them in prison for murder. Yet, that's what the US military does with drone and bombing attacks. Since the UN just nailed the behavior of the US military we have nobody sane policing the world now -only murdering psychopaths.
Nothing in the article says the UN is sorry or even feels guilt. How psychopathic.
"Wonder how Obama sleeps at night..."
Obama has zero empathy for others. Like any sociopath, stuff like this doesn't bother him a bit. The only thing that would affect his sleep are things that affect his own personal comfort level.
I hope to hell he loses a lot of sleep over his re-election prospects.
This war is all about his re-election...and Sarkozy's. These sociopaths care only about that. To them, the "future" means only the next election. With opportunists like them in government, we will bounce from one crisis to another because they've figgured out that it's best to keep the populace in crisis so we're too busy surviving to make waves. Obama is still a slave--to the corporate structure and the US military.
"How would you like cops who constantly go after criminals - kill at least 3 times as many innocents for each criminal they're chasing and often miss the criminals altogether"
It's a good point. It illuminates the relationship between the rulers and the ruled. The rulers secure the home front just enough to maintain domestic loyalty. So we don't have 3x civilian casualties per criminal pursued here in the "Good ol USA". The rulers need the loyalty of the ruled, of course. The ruled are the slaves who row the empire boat while the rulers indulge in luxuries. The innocents abroad are not secured as such. Because their loyalty will never be given. So it appears the rulers in the USA care nothing about any innocents, domestic or foreign. Innocents in the laps of the psychopaths, and in their chains and in their crosshairs too, is the "Merkan Way". Good thing there are plenty of petro-opiates to dull the senses.
Isn't it amazing how much damage and murder one Uncle Tom and a couple of hillbillies from Arkansas have committed overseas?
Meanwhile, the American Press yuks it up over drinks & dinner with the criminals.
Disgusting.
I believe you left out the Village Idiot from Texas. This has been done quite well by members of both "major parties".
Sorry Peg, you're absolutely correct. I just usually leave that point as a given. That said, what's so ugly about this is that our opposition party, the "party" of the working class, regular folks, is the worst when it comes to harming them. Be it taking their civil liberties or just blowing them up...abroad or at home e.g. Waco, Bradley Manning........
The most deceptive, the most unpredictable. The dangerous party to the workers of the world (physically speaking) is the democratic party--in my opinion.
Agreed about those pesky Dems. It has been really interesting to note that many so-called anti-war folks stopped speaking out once Obama was elected. Such hypocrisy. They keep telling us that he just needs more time. Ummm, I think he's done more harm than W in many ways. He's really done nothing to bring us back from the brink of total destruction. Can we get that blinkin' Nobel Prize rescinded?