You're the one looking at it all wrong. Loose Iraqi weapons are now in the hands of real terrorist organizations, millions of Iraqis are dead or displaced or living in fear, we've bankrupted our country and our future to make a few oil barons and their Bushco pals happy. If we had never gone in none of our people would have died for nothing, or for oil. You and those like you are ignorant killers who believe everything done in the name of the flag works for you. You and the blind, deaf, and dumb flag-wavers like you are the problem with America today.

Who's got it all wrong?

Iraq began dismantling its arsenal when UN inspectors arrived in September 1991. At that point, Iraq had massive programs, massive stockpiles and was not cooperating with the UN. In 1992, the UN continued to push Iraq on the whereabouts of WMD, and it admitted to unilaterally destroying the weapons. By 1996, ninety to ninety-five percent of Iraq’s WMD were known to have been destroyed. The remaining five to ten percent was shown to be itemized in his declaration.

The Iraqi WMD declaration required by security council resolution 1441, submitted by Iraq in December 2002, was summarily rejected by Bush and Blair as repackaged falsehoods, but stands as the most accurate compilation of data assembled regarding Iraq's WMD programs (more so than even Duelfer's ISG report). Iraq had disarmed and this administration knew that. It knew it then and it knows it now. It's just no one wanted to accept that conclusion. They wanted the oil.

In fact, Rolf Ekeus revealed that in 1997, the US acted to prevent UN officials from certifying that Iraq had complied with UN resolutions. In March 1997,Ekeus was close to certifying that Iraq was in compliance with UN Resolution 687. At that time it became clear that Unscom might destroy the public pretext for the UN sanctions. At the same time had sanctions been lifted in 1997, there were at least 40 international petroleum companies that were actively seeking production-sharing and development contracts with Iraq and such deals would have made Iraq the world’s fourth oil producer by 2004. In short, Washington’s Middle East policy risked leaving a decisive portion of world oil production in the hands of its rivals.

Lies told to us by our government continue to be exposed from insiders who know the difference between democracy and oilygarchy. The idea that the petrol oilygarchs were willing to have Iran and Iraq sell their oil in currencies other than the US dollar was unthinkable. Stoking fear based on lies was premeditated indoctrination and designed to conquer the area to prevent a redistribution of influence in the region that would favor American imperialism’s rivals.

In fact, Rolf Ekeus revealed that in 1997, the US acted to prevent UN officials from certifying that Iraq had complied with UN resolutions. In March 1997,Ekeus was close to certifying that Iraq was in compliance with UN Resolution 687. At that time it became clear that Unscom might destroy the public pretext for the UN sanctions. At the same time had sanctions been lifted in 1997, there were at least 40 international petroleum companies that were actively seeking production-sharing and development contracts with Iraq and such deals would have made Iraq the world’s fourth oil producer by 2004. In short, Washington’s Middle East policy risked leaving a decisive portion of world oil production in the hands of its rivals.

Now Snow Wolf, take the time and refute this information point by point. Prove that the UN was not doing its job. Provide dates, declarations etc. Otherwise all you are doing is repeating talking points and blowing hot air. Cut n Run....yeah, right. Take the time and prove your fuhrer's propoganda.

SnowWolf,

We can never be 100% certain now, or before the invasion. UNSCOM and the CIA knew with near certainty there were no WMDs. They knew with near certainty that there were no delivery platforms. George Tenet briefed President Bush on this Sep 18, 2002. This we do know with 100% certainty. We also knew there were no WMDs because Saddam Hussein’s foreign minister, Naji Sabri, and Tahir Jalil Habbush, the chief of Iraqi intelligence, were on the CIA payroll and were reporting VERIFIABLE information that there were no WMDs throughout. Both men are now enjoying a highly comfortable retirement in Jordan with a large CIA pension and protection.

The UN Mandate was predicated on the lies of Colin Powell.

We have known about, and the exact location of the 550 tons of yellow cake since 1991. The CIA and UNSCOM monitored it very closely. If ever it had been determined that it was a threat, it could have been removed during the first war in Iraq, or subsequently destroyed. That 550 tons was never a threat.

And as for a "brand new democracy", most people, and nearly all Iraqis I am sure, will call it a puppet government. Most Iraqis do state that they were bettor off under Hussein. So what good have we done them?

Finally, whether we leave Iraq or stay form another 100 years, the Americans that dies in Iraq HAVE died for nothing. They died because of the greed of a few powerful Americans. So they did die for nothing, and there is nothing we can do about it. Saying "sorry" does not cut it.

Please, non of your neocon revisionist history. The facts are in, and every statement you make expose your reluctance to accept anything other than Bush Administration demagogy.