KEM -- Good choice for renewable energy on your saucer

I am so deligted to hear this, I could just pee in my pants. I was afraid they would decide to have that forever lasting, deadly poison, stored at Disney World. Nothing like hiding it out of sight and mind over an aquifer and right next to an earthquake fault line.

Wonder if Billy likes this idea too.

Here is my version of the event:

> I went to the Energy Department hearing on Yucca Mountain in Lone Pine on Nov. 29. The Energy Department folks were available before the public comments period, but they did not do any presentations. About 25 citizens had signed up to speak during the comment period. All were opposed to the proposed Yucca Mountain Nuclear Materials storage facility.
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> Concerns were expressed on many issues related to Yuccca. The fact that the Amargosa area is one of the most seismically active areas in North America came up several times. The many recent cinder cones, like Red Mountain in the Owens Valley, that dot the plains there were brought up. The Inyo County Director for Yucca Mountain Impacts, Matt Gafney, presented maps and research that document the groundwater flows that connect the aquifers beneath Yuccca Mountain with the aquifers of Death Valley which mean that spills at Yucca would contaminate Death Valley.
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> Flaws in the testing of the transportation casks was discussed. One speaker pointed out that the actual products of reactors are the fiendishly toxic radionuclides that remain deadly for all eternity as far as you and I are concerned. The heat that is used to boil water to spin turbines to make electricity was recognized as a by product of the first reactors which were built to create plutonium to make atomic bombs. Today's reactors are no different. The electricity vanishes at the speed of light and it is gone forever, but the plutonium and other poisons remain forever with no good answer as to what to do with them. People talked about human nature and the fact that unavoidable human carelessness will surely lead to trucks and trains traveling with contamination and spills which will result, over time, to a trail of deadly radionuclides all along any transportation routes leading to Yucca if all the poisons are moved there.
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> The undeniable fact that Yucca will negatively impact tourism in our area was a concern for many of the speakers.
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> Leaders of the local Paiute and Shoshone tribes spoke and emphasized the importance of "looking ahead seven generations" when making decisions.
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> Then, after the people who had signed up to speak were finished, a man asked to speak as there was time remaining. He claimed that he had not planned to speak, but since all the speakers were "so negative," he felt he had to get up and say something.
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> He went on to introduce himself and explain that as a young man of 21 he had been "the commander" of a group in the U.S. military who were responsible for moving H-bombs around the country. "We used to take our truck with 8 H-bombs up and down the freeway in Kansas all the time. We had bombs in trucks going all over the place. We never killed anyone.
> "I don't know if any of you are old enough to remember the Cuban Missile Crisis, but, hell, that weekend we were loading HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF H-BOMBS on the B-52s. " The audience became very quiet. "There is nothing to worry about. We did have one Titan ICBM do a total meltdown - just the rocket fuel was enough to level this entire town, never mind the warhead - but there were no problems.
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> "I have learned to stop worrying and love the Bomb! YaHOOOOO!!!" At this point he began making some strange hand gestures. He was flexing his knees and banging his closed fists together twice behind his behind and then swinging them around, bringing them together rapidly in front of his body twice while pumping his hips. He looked like Pee Wee Herman in "Pee Wee's Big Adventure," dancing to "Tequila,!" All he needed were some white platform shoes!
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> I don't think many in the audience found him convincing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQJexFOxolI

So far, there are several American atomic and hydrogen bombs lost on this planet, most at sea. Actually they are not lost, we just don't know where they are. There have been numerous accidents involvng nuclear bombs, four were once dropped in Spain, four were damaged in Greenland and the plutonium was spilled out after a B-52 crashed at Thule AFB. One was accidently dropped in the Atlantic ocean near North Carolina, etc. Google nuclear accidents, __ it's pretty scary.

KEM PATRICK

what do we have to worry about? 5/6 nuclear warheads were mistakenly transported across america a few weeks ago, remember? and nothing happened right? there is no chance of a radioactive leak for 10,000 years, and the dump will be safe for hundreds of thousands years after that. and there will be no-one on earth then anyway, so even if it does leak it doesn't matter. don't worry kem. there will be no-one here to witness the devastation this bloody abomination we have created. but i suspect we might all be here to witness the devastation the DU will create very shortly. (if we haven't blown ourselves to smithereens in the meantime)
where is that cave of yours?

Could we put some of our politicians in there with it Bill?

Hi COCO, it's on another planet. I have a flying suacer, it's fueled with bull shit, so I can go anyplace I want.

After 60 years or so this is the best they can come up with. And while at the same time lobbying to build more nuclear plants.
It doesn't seem like that great of a site to me. It just underscores how deadly and how long lasting the waste from this type of activity is.
There should be a moratorium on such activity until a satisfactory solution to the problem can be acheieved.

these numbers don't add up. It's going to require 13,600 trucks to haul 70 tons of waste. Am I wrong or is that 10.3 lbs per shipment.

These numbers don't add up. It's going to require 13,600 shipments to haul 70 tons of waste. Am I wrong or is that 10.3 lbs. per shipment? Non of this makes any sense.

"blisher, several American Indians, som"

ummm wtf? Is that how those individuals describe themselves?

The guy was off by three orders of magnitude. I wrote the L.A. Times and Vartabetean too yesterday to point that out. It's 70,000 metric tons, not 70.

Paul Fretheim

I just noticed that they edited out the L.A. Times reporter's report on the soldier who loves the Bomb. His version had no humor at all, so you didn't miss much. He left out the hand gestures and platform shoes entirely.

STEPHEN LEE, Excellent point there. I've read comments by others here at CD besides Billy, who say there really isn't a lot of nuclear waste that requires storing. Then I saw reports on the TV news and science channel, that claim it will be thousands of tons of waste and more tons to hide away from sight every year from now thru perpitutity.

Whatever, Billy is absolutely correct on one point, the Yucca Mountain site was a horrible political decision, not a scientific or technical engineering decision.

Hi KEM -- I left you a message where we talked about various kinds and interpretations of humor

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I am sort of sick Bill, reading articles here at CD would make anyone sick. There is little news anymore that is refreshing or fun. Of course real news ususally isn't about fun, unless it's news about Pais Hilton or Cheney shooting a lawyer in the face.

Is that all of the type nuclear waste that is supposed to be stored at the Yucca mountain site? What about the thousands of tons of DU? Oh, silly me, __ never mind, __ we don't store that poison, we spread the DU all over the planet.

What about plutonium and the other wastes created by man, when using uranium for fuel in nuclear power plants? __ Gee, I've read there are millions of gallons, and or thousands of tons of that nasty crap presently stored at nuclear waste dumps and nuclear power plants.

How often do the storage containers have to be replaced, as the nuclear waste eats them up from the inside out?

The fact is, since the past 60 some years, we already have tons of nuclear waste, poisonous time bombs, waiting for an accident to happen. Does anyone really believe, we won't have another Three Mile Island type of accident some day, one which came very close to a disaster?

Google nuclear accidents and see how many we have already had, and how many were just by luck, not horrible disasters that could have been as bad or worse than Chernoble and forever steralized a land area the size of Pennsylvania and New York combined.

Hi there NSPIRE, yes indeedy, I did read your humor comment on the other thread, and I thank you kindly for it too. I love your posts BTW. CoCo is back too, she is an honest sweetheart and full of fun. Smart too, __ must be a brunette.

KEM -- a 2nd comment about your mention of Grand-shrubbery Prescott

KEM PATRICK

thanks for the vote of confidence. truth is, i just dye my hair blonde.!!!
i have a higher iq than that of your president and i've written a book!!!

I would not say my IQ was higher than Bush's Blondy, That could mean almost nothing higher than 40. Hey I wrote three novels, it's the hardest thing I ever did too. Good for you COCO, never stop writing.

"We have been here for thousands of years. Our spirits in this area are totally against this."

Dude, do you really think the rich, white imperialists give a hoot about spirits? They're probably laughing their heads off at that. The ONLY thing the greedy, selfish facists understand is money and power. Nothing else matters to them. If what's left of the Native-American race dies from cancer because of the nuclear waste, they couldn't care less.

LILLUL -- I agree with you, that "they couldn't care less", but inside their narrow minds there is more going on, always.

Nonetheless, and regardless of their own twisted and wicked beliefs, we are all ONE spiritually.

And more significantly, the fascists softest underbelly is exactly their derision of the true connections between all human beings. Each of their despicable acts, draws a DARK curtain over their humanity. The less they have, the more hubris and posturing to attempt to fill the broken vessel.

That curtain is far more than mere covering, as the absolute moral contradictions of impoverishing others leads them to greater feelings of separation. They may attempt to fill their worthless and empty daily experiences with excessive pleasures and luxuries, but there is no escape for them.

They are creating their own internal hell on Earth -- and it carries the seeds of it's own demise.

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Hey, hold on there. I care. Oops, I'm not an imperialist though. ___ Never mind.

I care, very much and I believe most Americans do also. Not most of those in power.

Kem, thank you. There are a lot of good people out there. Unfortunately, the good ones aren't in charge of things :(

that's because they say we're not responsible, but really mean we cannot be counted to do as instructed - liberal insubordinate free thinkers need not apply

Houston___ We have a problem!

Sure, deposit the nuke waste on the Native Americans like mighty whitey has done since he occupied and stole this country. Euro Americans still have a sense of privilege over "the dark peoples". They view them as dogs to be exploited.
But the chickens will come home to roost for the greedy facists.
And those greedy, crazy fools that invented these weapons to destroy the Mother Earth hopefully have an adjacent room to Cheney in the bowels of Hell.