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BP Oil Spill May Not Be Capped Until Christmas, Expert Warns
'Everyone should be prepared for worst-case scenario', says the head of oil consultancy group
One of the world's leading authorities on oil well management has warned it could take until Christmas to cap the Gulf of Mexico spill that is devastating the southern coast of America – and BP's reputation.
Workers clean up the oil washed ashore in Alabama from the BP Deepwater Horizon spill. (Photograph: KeystoneUSA-ZUMA / Rex Features) Nansen
Saleri, a Gulf drilling expert, said he hoped BP would meet its August
timetable for capping the blown-out well, but made it clear success was
not certain.
"I know it is a frightening assessment but everyone should be prepared for a worst-case scenario, and that could mean a Christmas timeframe," said Saleri, chief executive of the consultancy group Quantum Reservoir Impact. "The probable outcome is much better but the technological challenges … are enormous."
The futures of BP and of wildlife around the Gulf of Mexico are largely dependent on the rapid success of two "relief" wells that are being drilled in an attempt to halt anywhere between 20,000 and 40,000 barrels of oil a day that is flowing out of the stricken Macondo subsea hole.
Saleri, who dealt personally with four blowouts during a career with Saudi Aramco and Chevron, said the BP fire and spill was the worst he had seen. He believes it may cause more damage than the Ixtoc I blowout 30 years ago, which is regarded as the most damaging of its kind.
BP faced renewed pressure to do more to contain the Gulf of Mexico spill as the US and Britain played down diplomatic tensions over the crisis.
The British foreign secretary, William Hague, said relations between the US and UK were "outstanding at every level". He said it was up to BP – under pressure in the US to suspend its dividend to help pay for damage – to decide on its payout to shareholders. David Cameron and Barack Obama talked at the weekend, when Cameron expressed his sadness at the "human and environmental catastrophe".
Tony Hayward, the BP chief executive, will be grilled about the disaster in the US on Thursday when he appears before a special Senate hearing. On Wednesday, Hayward and the BP chairman, Carl-Henric Svanberg, will meet the president at the White House to explain BP's response.
According to reports, Obama will tell the pair he wants BP to establish a special account to meet damage claims by individuals and businesses hurt by the spill.
The prospect of a lengthy timescale to cap the well reinforces the views of Carlos Morales, the head of exploration at Petróleos Mexicanos (Pemex). The company was the operator of the Ixtoc I well in 1979, when 3.3m gallons of oil spilled into the Gulf. It took nearly 10 months to bring the blowout under control.
Morales is now sharing technical information with BP in an attempt to help it block the Macondo leak. He has warned it could take "four to five months" for a relief well to cap the spill.
Hurricanes also pose a problem. The hurricane season in the Gulf began this month, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has predicted it will be "active to very active", with up to 23 named storms and up to 14 hurricanes on the way.
Saleri said a bad storm could "really complicate" the environmental impact of spilled oil and delay relief drilling by two weeks every time a hurricane strikes.
BP is also aware that the relief wells could be as unstable as the original one. Experts admit no one can rule out another blowout such as the one that sent the original rig, Horizon Explorer, to the bottom of the ocean.
The British company has warned in a regulatory filing that a blowout on one of the relief wells could release a further 240,000 barrels of oil a day, although Hayward has since discounted the chances of this. "The relief wells ultimately will be successful," he said.
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Show AllGod Bless Deregulation.(snarK)
Yep. I read an article yesterday explaining the process oil drillers have to go through in Canada. This would have never happened there. Why did it here? Oh, we had the same regulations in place. Until the neo-cons took over. And, of course, the neo-cons are just the butt lickers of the corporations.
History of BP in a nutshell this morning on Democracy Now with Stephen Kinzer
grrrr...
http://www.democracynow.org/
Well, no shit. Of course it could take until Christmas -- it may very well keep gushing oil until there is no more oil left in the well.
I figured that out after about the eighth attempt to plug the well failed... The Gulf of Mexico is Dead.
I think there is a good estimate on how much oil is below the well, but it's "proprietary information" and it belongs to of course, BP.
Imagine the crust rupturing around the damaged well and this thing spews oil for the next 25 years. The gulf, the east coast, north atlantic and onward. Add in all the storms and hurricanes in between and soon its – really -everywhere.
It would be the worst thing to ever happen since human civilization began, besides the atomic bomb.
The prediction of the blowout continuing for 24 years came from Matt Simmons, a respected investor and oil industry insider. He actually made the statement this blowout could last for 9000 days, which works out to about 24 years.
Some say it's foolish to stop offshore drilling just because of BP's one "slip-up." BP's "relief" wells now being dug are tapping into the oil reserve and, like the "capping", seem to have the same real objective of pumping more oil into the coffers of BP.
It seems that BP is not trying to stop the oil flow nearly so much as "capture" it, put it into tankers, sell it, take it to refineries.
Meanwhile the Gulf of Mexico becomes the Gulf of Oil. For what?
BP is not producing oil for us. Oil from our backyard is not less expensive than OPEC oil. The main countries from whom we import oil are:
* Canada
* Mexico
* Saudi Arabia
* Venezuela and
* Nigeria
The US produces about 4.95 million barrels of crude oil each day. The total percentage of US oil that comes from the offshore Gulf of Mexico is just under 32%. In 2008, the United States consumed a total of 7.14 billion barrels of oil (refined petroleum products and biofuels), which was about 23% of total world oil consumption. In 2008, about 57% of the petroleum consumed by the United States was imported from foreign countries.
“Petroleum” includes crude oil and refined petroleum products like gasoline. Most (88%) of the imports were crude oil. About 66% of the crude oil processed in U.S. refineries was imported.
In 2006,1 about 331 million barrels of liquid petroleum gases (LPG) and natural gas liquids (NGL) were used to make plastic products in the plastic materials and resins industry in the United States, equal to about 4.6% of total U.S. petroleum consumption. Of the total, 329 million barrels were used as feedstock and 2 million barrels were consumed as fuel.
Electricity is also used to manufacture plastic materials and resins: in 2006, about 19.2 billion kilowatt-hours, less than 1% of total U.S. electricity consumption. Only about 1.4% of the total U.S. petroleum consumed in 2006 was used to generate electricity.
U.S. refineries produce between 19 and 20 gallons of motor gasoline from one barrel (42 gallons) of crude oil. 46% of our oil consumption is made into gasoline.
Over one-fourth of the crude oil produced in the United States is produced offshore in the Gulf of Mexico. The top crude oil-producing States are:
* Texas
* Alaska
* California
* Louisiana
* North Dakota
The world's biggest oil well, it is said, lies beneath Detroit. US vehicles get an average of only 25 miles per gallon. Dramatically improving this would do more to ease the oil crunch than any likely new discovery. But new measures recently approved by Congress would increase the average only to the 35 mpg already being achieved by China. Europe does better, if not well enough, at 44 mpg. So, what's foolish?
I think it's foolish not to close down all the offshore oil drilling. Where should we drill? Into the auto industry.
Here is an excerpt from "The Gulf Oil Spill and the Case for Socialism" -- by Jerry White
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/jun2010/pers-j08.shtml
"... from the beginning the overriding concern of BP executives and the White House has been to conceal from the public the extent of the disaster and protect the revenue and profits of the corporation. Last week, the Interior Department’s Minerals Management Service (MMS)—which was complicit in ignoring the safety and environmental violations prior to the blast—deliberately distorted the findings of the scientific team commissioned to estimate how much oil was leaking into the Gulf. ...
"The well-paid politicians, journalists and academics have long defended capitalism by claiming that the “market” is the most efficient and rational means of organizing the economy and allocating society’s resources. But the BP disaster has revealed to the world the terrible consequences of the anarchy and unplanned character of capitalism, and its subordination of human life to private profit.
"Like his Republican predecessor in the White House, Obama identifies not with the plight of the victims of this disaster but with the corporate criminals responsible for it. Less than three weeks before the Deepwater Horizon explosion, Obama promoted his plan for the expansion of offshore drilling, telling a North Carolina audience, “oil rigs today generally don’t cause spills. They are technologically very advanced.”
"In fact BP and other oil corporations were totally unprepared for what BP CEO Tony Hayward called “low-probability risk” of a leak one mile below the surface of the ocean. Like the Wall Street banks, the Big Oil companies are not driven by long-term and socially necessary considerations—including preserving the planet. Their overriding concern is ensuring the largest and quickest quarterly results and returns for their shareholders. How else can one explain the haste with which BP sought to wrap up operations on the Deepwater Horizon—ignoring and covering up the warnings of an impending disaster—and move on to the next multi-billion dollar drilling site.
"Even in the midst of the disaster a central focus of the company has been to keep its stock value from falling. BP’s share price actually rose 2.7 per cent on Monday morning, reportedly in response to statements by its Chairman Carl-Henric Svanberg late last week that the company executives “fully understand the importance of our dividend to our shareholders.”
"The most logical and necessary response would be to requisition the dividends and all of the productive and financial resources of BP—which made a $17 billion profit last year—to effectively deal with the consequences of the spill and compensate those being devastated by it.
"However, the Obama administration has steadfastly defended the private property and profits of BP, presenting these as sacrosanct and inviolable. In the White House press conference Monday, Admiral Allen said the government had to “work in parallel, in a cooperative manner” with BP to “get things done, because they own the means of access” to the underwater drill site. This was a variation on his comments on May 24, when he said that the government could not push BP aside because the company “owned the means of production.”
"The question is why should a gigantic corporation—whose single-minded goal of augmenting the personal wealth of top executives and big shareholders has produced such a catastrophe—be allowed to maintain control of the means of production? Moreover, why should vast natural resources, such as petroleum and natural gas, “belong” to any private corporation? Instead, the assets of BP should be commandeered in the interests of society as a whole and utilized to address this emergency.
"But the nationalization of the oil industry, no less than the nationalization of the banks, will not be carried out by a government—whether led by the Democrats or Republicans—which is owned lock, stock and barrel by the corporations themselves. The transformation of the energy conglomerates into publicly owned utilities and the establishment of a democratically, planned socialist economy, can only be achieved if the working class takes political power in its own hands."
Click here for the entire article -- http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/jun2010/pers-j08.shtml
If corporations are people under the law, shouldn't all those shareholders be liable to arrest and/or huge fines? Of course, that's the idea of corporations, to protect shareholders from liability for the company's actions. But that pretty much sums up why they are not "people," doesn't it?
Yep... it's a great read and people are beginning to realize the u.s. mega business government [sic] runs the show. I've written before that greed knows no bounds and has no conscience.
The oil companies would have to be nationalized somehow. The Capitalist government would never allow that to happen. In the meantime the country is going down the toilet over the profits to be made. I have to wonder what Obama learned while working in communities particularly since his latest statement indicating he's getting a sense of people trashing business.
I hate to say it but deregulation was a springboard for business to grind our country to death. These elitist now have stolen the assets of the working people as well as the nation. Remember when Regan wanted to make us more like the Chinese and the Chinese more like us? He was the Republican savior who tried to tell the people that ketchup was a vegetable in the school lunch programs. Slap me for saying it but it was poetic justice when he turned out to be the vegetable.
It's easier to control a national population if they are not comfortable and are constantly fighting for survival. Even the Constitution was written by wealthy men whose main goal was to protect their interests while having little concern with human rights.
What really galls me is the effort to further tap the middle class to pay for their vile excesses and complain the democrats take from the rich. We're not American workers any more. We have become serfs. In fact, the interests of the American worker as well as the American people have been completely discarded for profits gained overseas. I remember a time when corporations couldn't leave the country.
This country is a powder keg. Question is; will it explode or implode.
So goes the Republic.
I hate to say 'I told you so...'
http://www.sadtrombone.com/
I think it's time for another Summer of Love, only this time for keeps. No drugs needed though, just be high on life. It could move the working class.
On another note, I had a conversation with a ph.d. who was complaining about the "Obama administration halting all offshore drilling." First of all, did I miss something that the Obama administration "did?"
... and blaming "environmentalists" that the poor, poor oil company had to drill so deep because they were forced not to turn the beaches into oil rig fronts.
She said, so now, look what those environmentalists did! If it weren't for them, it would be easy to fix the gusher, because it would be right near shore in shallow water.
Her worry? Shutting down offshore drilling will lead to high prices and long lines like in 1973. She also said "there is SO MUCH oil just lying there in Alaska which the environmentalists won't let us touch."
On the one hand, I wondered if we should start celebrating-- I didn't know that "environmentalists" finally wield more power than global oil companies!!!! Wow! I thought they had only managed to stop them temporarily, for now.
I said, well, the environmentalists I know have been saying for DECADES, we need cleaner energy sources, but the oil companies have used their power to block that, to keep us on dirty oil, to prevent rehabbing of vehicles, which many now get 15mpg.... shouldn't the oil that is LEFT be reserved for components of solar panels and geothermal parts i.e.? The environmentalists I know haven't thought that it was a good idea to take the warning of the 1973 oil embargo and turn it into a decision to build bigger homes and drive LESS fuel efficient vehicles. and, have Americans EVER united to CONSERVE ANY natural resources, beyond token gestures? We got some parks but they are under siege by private interests.
Then, this ph.d. scientist poohpoohed the Gulf disaster saying it has been "sensationalized." I said I thought it was being understated as media policy. I said, do we live in different countries? She said "the ocean has AMAZING restorative powers, and this spill is going to be cleaned up-- they are doing amazing things down there-- and white beaches won't stay black for long. She thought the media was trying to make it look worse by showing one oiled bird over and over.
I should have asked her where she got her ph.d. and was it cheap, maybe I can get one too.
I think the oil companies give those PhDs out for free ...
***"the ocean has AMAZING restorative powers, and this spill is going to be cleaned up-- they are doing amazing things down there--***
And this attitude, compliments of the neo-cons who took over thirty years ago, is exactly why we find ourselves where we are today.
What a different world we'd be living in if we had listened to Jimmy Carter. And yet they vilify him still today, thanks to the likes of the neo-con mouthpieces like Rush Limbaugh. Makes me sick to my stomach.
This little tidbit needs everyones attention:
"BP is also aware that the relief wells could be as unstable as the original one. Experts admit no one can rule out another blowout such as the one that sent the original rig, Horizon Explorer, to the bottom of the ocean."
Thats right each of the 2 relief wells could blow-out too. this is the first mention of that that I have read in the media, but it is true.
that was the line that caught me, too...and the next, suggesting a potential 240,000 barrels a day being added to the mix, in such a scenario...
or was that 5,000? or 20,000? or 10? I guess it's whatever any writer or speaker declares it to be...
real bad, is what it is...
I didn't see this interview, but someone I know talked about it: Matt Lauer interviewed a person who is considered one of the brightest nuclear physicists on the planet, and he said the idea that ANY relief well is going to hit where it needs to is like winning the lottery.
And the nuke option? Will destabilize what is already, obviously, a weakened sea bed and could (or, more likely, would) collapse this entire formation causing....well, that's exactly why they haven't already done it. They brought nuclear experts in at the very beginning. If a nuke was a way to close this thing, it would have already been done.
it did take several tries to hit the Australian well that was flowing last fall. it is a very, very difficult task to complete. they need to drill over 3 miles of hole and steer the drillbit to hit the original well dead-on near the top of the reservoir.
these are the unknowns:
*where precisely the target well bore is in space (depends on the quality of BPs down-hole surveys),
*where precisely the relief well starts on the ocean floor,and
*where precisely the drill bit is at any one time -- you can't see thru rock and say "hey a little to the left". its all done using accellerometers.
if the precision of any of these measurements (or the combined precision error) is out by more than the diameter of the main well, you've missed. then you pull back a thousand feet cement in the missed shot and shoot again a little to one side or the other.
litterally stabbing in the dark at a 20 to 30 inch pipe from miles away.
They will hit it sooner or later, but not on the first shot, unless they are exceedingly lucky.
The hottest sea surface temperatures in the entire Atlantic Ocean today are along the Louisiana coast, along the Florida Gulf coast and around the Florida Keys. Not good. The oil sheen apparently acts to heat the sea surface.
Tropical Storm Alex is likely to form in the Atlantic in the next couple of days. A rough hurricane season is forecast.
From my experience, currently it's a real shame that both BP and the government ignores and apparently despises independent inventors.
also, the oil, itself, comes out substantially hotter than the gulf water, no?
like a heater in a pool...
not just polluting, but raising temperature, too...
If the worst case happens and it is Christmas before the oil is stopped, than won't the gulf of Mexico and the wetlands be dead by that time? This is terrible news.
It sounds like the explosion is the worst they have ever seen and that they don't have the know how to stop it. Another question I have is WHY did they give BP permission to drill for oil when there would be no human way possible to stop the vocano of oil that would be caused by an explosion.
Their plan was a joke. They mentioned anaimals not even found in the gulf of Mexico but in the Artic. Didn't a red flag drop as government employees charged with the oversight read their plan? I know I would have felt like they were trying to pull something and that I as an employee for the government must deny their request. This is what happens when we have a corrupted government who for their greed take chances that can destroy the environment for decades and even generations. The health of its workers who are forced to take risks or be fired is also at stake. Men shouldn't have to take jobs that are unsafe or be forced to sign legal documents that are binding without being able to talk to a lawyer or loose your job. I know in AZ another right to work state, it happens all the time. What will those in government have gained who gave BP and other oil companies the pass they needed to drill for oil so deep? They are part of the reason the destruction of the gulf of Mexico and the wetlands is happening, because they took the gold instead of doing their jobs. Everything is dead or dying. What have those corrupted officals gained for their gold coins? They too will feel the effects of their folly for generations to come. It will take years for the gulf to recover.
I wonder if there is so much oil coming out that it will kill the gulf of Mexico and the wetlands to the point of them never coming back to the paradise it was before the explosion? Not to many people have spoken about if we can reach the point of no return for the gulf and the wetlands.
***WHY did they give BP permission to drill for oil when there would be no human way possible to stop the vocano of oil that would be caused by an explosion.***
Surely you have a strip of big box stores in or near you. And a slew of McMansions. And SUVs lining your streets and highways. That's why.
We are all complicit. BP and all the rest of them wouldn't be wasting all that money drilling in a mile deep water if there was any easy oil left. Same with the tar sands and shale. There's lots of oil left, it just means that to get it, it's going to be on the scale of the Deepwater Horizon. Nice thought, eh?
Get out your surfboards and ride the hurricane storm surge waves of crude oil !
Courtesy of BP and Obomber !
So, two BP big shots are going to be in DC... AG Holder, please pass the arrest warrants. If not the illustrious Mr. Holder, the Park Service cops could make the collar. With the celebrity arrests all over the news, the Treasury could quietly seize the US assets of BP, Halliburton, and TransOcean. But then again, we're not living in a perfect world.
Obama has to seize BP,nationalize the oil companies and use the revenue to instigate an alternative energy revolution. If the earth survives the Gulf disaster's spread to every ocean, we will have learned our lesson and been given a second chance. Suggested beach reading for this summer: Kurt Vonnegut's short story, "Ice Nine".
You are asking the tail to wag the dog.
I spent this morning re-reading the history of the Niger Delta from the first complaints against Shell Oil's environmental degradation in 1970 through the "Ogoni Wars" in the mid nineties to the present day. Assurances by oil executives that spills would be cleaned up and the environment restored were identical to the ones we are hearing from BP today. Everything about it, from a government bought and paid for by the oil companies (over 90% of Nigeria's revenue) to eerily familiar statements such as this at a huge rally in 1993:
"The Ogoni people have woken up to find our lands devastated by agents of death called oil companies. Our atmosphere has been totally polluted, our lands degraded, our water contaminated, our trees poisoned, so much so that our flora and fauna have virtually disappeared. We are asking for the restoration of our environment, we are asking for the basic necessities of life... but above all we are asking for the right of self determination so that we can be responsible for our resources and our environment."
By 1995 the leaders of this movement had been hanged and the region descended into a chaos of social degradation, impotent rage, disorganized sabotage and kidnapping of oil company employees that continues to the present time. Imagine the Gulf Coast minus any means of livelihood save working on oil rigs or as thugs to protect oil company property from those who have been robbed of everything natural and clean.
The history of our future has been written many times all over the world, so there is no mystery to it. We're just in denial if we don't look at it and see it coming, like a flock of ugly chickens come home to roost. I had the same thought following 911, that we had finally joined the real world. Welcome to the neighborhood.
Why would a blown relief well release 240,000 BPD, but we are supposed to believe that the high end estimate from Thad Allen's (chief BP ___ sucker) FRTG is 40,000 BPD, from an existing blown out well? It is obvious, there has been a conspiracy between BP and the Oilbama Administration to lowball the BPD estimates, which serves both the Oilbama Administration and BP. Remember, the original estimate of 5,000 BPD was the NOAA's estimate, not BP. BP was of course happy with that estimate. That estimate, broken down per second, was a 2.43 gallons per second, all leaks combined. It took weeks for there to be any serious challenge of those numbers, and it didn't come from any investigative reporter, but finally BP was forced to release the video, and some outside experts stated the obvious. Even after that, NOAA's Jan Lubchenco (BP's Assistant Chief ____ sucker) maintained her 5,000 BPD estimate. Maintained that only 2.43 gallons per second for all leaks combined constituted the big blowout that no one could control.
It is probably 240,000 BPD right now, given that there has been some evidence that the pipe casing was breached either by the blowout, or by the top kill procedure, which would cause oil to be seeping up through the bedrock.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/06/evidence-points-to-destruction-beneath.html
I think they slipped up for a second and a little honesty slipped out. I believe the 240K barrel figure applies if ONE of the relief wells blows out, meaning that the current blowout is releasing around 120K barrels a day. This agrees with my figure of 115,200 barrels a day based on the fact that the "top kill" effort, pumped in 80 barrels a minute of mud and that mud was regurgitated as quickly as it could be pumped in. The well is spewing at least 80 barrels a minute times 1440 minutes in a day.
that's 78 gallons per second. you really think so? what is the diameter of the pipe spewing the oil?
I think its 21 inches, internal diameter.
Correct my math if you see an error:
80 barrels a minute times 42 gallons per barrel is 3360 gallons a minute. 3360 gallons per min divided by 60 seconds per min is 56 gallons per second.
It was an oil operations expert, a Mr. Cavner or Covner, something like that, on the Keith Olbermann show who said that BP pumped in "up to 80 barrels a minute" of mud during the "top kill" effort, using a 30,000 horsepower pump.
Even at 40 barrels per minute its still 57,600 barrels per day.
Since the mud was expelled as quickly as it was pumped in, I deduce that the well itself is spewing a volume of matter equal to the amount pumped into the well. It is not all crude oil. Some of it is methane, propane, butane, benzene and other volatile gases in liquid form at the wellhead.
I do think that much is escaping from the well. I do think BP and the US Govt are flat out lying. The government has lied so much over the years that I can simply not believe that it ever tells the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. It always lies. Always.
Good work!
This IS the worst-case scenario.
Hurricanes also pose a problem. The hurricane season in the Gulf began this month, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has predicted it will be "active to very active", with up to 23 named storms and up to 14 hurricanes on the way.
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Current in Jamaica only 40-50 years ago, this little rhyme (well, it rhymes when recited by a Jamaican) shows the effects of climate change more succinctly that any chart. It's about hurricane season:
June - too soon
July - stand by
August - you must
September - remember
October - all over
"The probable outcome is much better..."
What a load of crap. I tried to keep away from this for as long as I could, because I knew from the first week this was going to be BAD. But it's not BAD, it's beyond catastrophic. The sea bed is ruptured (that's where all the giant oil plumes are coming from,) and the idea that a "relief" well is going to fix this....
The only thing they are doing is trying to keep from spreading the panic they know is inevitable. Hurricanes, low cloud cover holding in the VOCs, the INEVITABLE collapse of the economy of the entire Gulf states- every small bank down there will collapse- and that's just for starters.
There is NOTHING good that is going to come out of this. And all this yap about BP paying....they don't have enough money in the entire oil industry to pay for what is happening.
Can we please clarify? The worst-case scenario is not that the well can't be capped until Christmas. The worst-case scenario is that it can't be capped at all, that it spews until it is depleted, perhaps for years and years and years. Even worse: the oil, mixed with toxic dispersants, is lifted up in a hurricane from the Gulf of Oil (formerly known as the Gulf of Mexico) and spread far and wide over the land, possibly over the entire eastern half of the U.S. Crops and livestock die, people get sick and die.
Or this: As a last resort, a decision is made to nuke the well to try to get it to implode in on itself, and that creates bigger problems, such as the release of a giant methane explosion that wipes us all out.
I hate to be such a downer here, but things can get seriously, seriously worse. One thing I'm pretty sure of - this thing will not be "capped" by August. That is BP's estimate, so we automatically should assume it's a lie.
You are right, this could easily be a major tipping point in terms of the collapse of the global industrial system. Exactly what form that collapse will take is unknown - too many variables and too many unknowns - but our whole human-built world could start to unravel bigtime.
It's already unraveling.
Be a "downer" for there is NOTHING "smily face" about this disaster!
Christmas? What year?
This is sounding like that recording your health insurance company plays back to you every 60 seconds while you're on hold for to find out why your policy has been cancelled without notice. "Our agents are all busy helping other customers...your wait time is now estimated to be..." (And after 30 minutes, the line just goes dead.)
In my most recent nightmare, a BP think tank was studying the Bhopal disaster to figure out how Union Carbide & their successors got out of it. What do you bet the major money interests at BP have already bailed? And are now cashing in on their hedge positions.
Yeah--it looks like they have canceled our "health insurance" policy alright but more akin to a collective "life insurance" policy.
As with other catastrophes that have occured, I'm sure we will find out eventually, the company who is responsivable for the oil disaster, and I say Chaney's Halliburton. The Brits wish to investigate the illegal invasion of Iraq, and that has upset the previous Administration.
Gulf Oil Spill "Could Go on Years and Years" ...
by F. William Engdahl
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19660
I disagree with Engdahl. Few support the theory of "abiotic oil" and what has happened in the Gulf doses not "disprove" Peak Oil.
Yeah - this blows me away also.
Since 9/11, I feared that once another catastrophic event occurs, we eventually would find another Cheney connection after the smoke clears.
If this well is not capped it will spew enough oil to kill all of the oceans, the ultimate source of all life. Phytoplankton, for example, in the oceans supply most of the oxygen to the earth. They will die. Atmospheric oxygen will drop precipitously. The oil sheen will overheat the oceans causing massive tropical storms/hurricanes. At the same time so much methane will be released that global warming will run rampant. The planet and most life on it will be destroyed, probably by December 21, 2012. It didn't have to be this way but greed was just such an overwhelming desire that it overcame sanity and intelligent thought. We had a good run but we were so stupid we allowed ourselves to drown in our own excrement.
Amen! Dkshaw,
Each year "We the People" vote in our representatives, who have then allowed these rapacious corporations to run amuck, ruining everything in their path and life as we know it on this little tiny sphere called Earth.
Most of the people in this country have been so dumbed down by the corporately owned media whores and their feckless inane programming, that they've forgotten they even reside on a planet. One which contains a very delicate ecosystem that
was tampered with by a group of malevolent bastards at BP (both parties beholden to war and oil).
We are now feeling Mother Nature’s wrath. Thousands of year old oil that is belching out of the sea floor. BP had NO! F’n right drilling that far down into the Earth’s crust, especially at sea.
It was pure insanity! All in the name of GREED!
And by "we" of course you mean those sorry excuses for human beings in Western Civilization? Just because China and India have jumped on board does not change this. The mad Captain Ahab leading the world "leaders" to their doom...
Engineers solve problems. Why hasn't there been a lot of money given to our best engineering schools, so they could use the "best and brightest" to help solve this problem?
Just like the Exxon-Valdez disaster, the recent BP disaster was planned. We are sitting back and allowing the most criminally insane people to control our planet. These same people (corporations) prevent development of free energy systems, prevent known cancer cures, and are in the process of trying to kill as many of us as possible with contaminants in our air, food, and water. Oil and gas drilling alone will eventually kill all of us by destroying our ground water. We need to understand that the rulers of each government (with few exceptions) are committed to the wholesale destruction of our planet and future generations of humans. Take autism, which is induced by forced vaccination, now affects 1 in 150 children. Do you not see the eventual outcome of this in 20 years? We need to take back our planet from these criminals, take back our media, and organize the brightest minds in in the world to redesign our entire culture based upon recent scientific breakthroughs. Time is running out.