Evil has only one tool - that is the disruption of peace - it is applied in infinite ways but it is always the same tool -

About Israel's "right" to be there.
"As the Arabs see the Jews"
His Majesty King Abdullah,
The American Magazine
November, 1947

http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/kabd_eng.html

If the palestinian a-holes would stay away from children, mosques, schools and hospitals and lob their rockets from the desert there would be no collateral damages.

I only have a high school education and I can figure that out. You educated "progressives" should be able to figure it out too!

I see that the Isearlis have once again herded civilian populations together into a 'safe' area only to slaughter the innocent in one blow. This same genocidal atrocity has been happening again and again over the decades under Zionist occupation.

Humbaba's opinion
Occupied America

I just saw one those "Israel needs your help" commercials on the Lamestream Media. It was pretty barfy.

Yo, Uncle Billy, I'm down. Move Israel to the Mojave. I was thinking of Eastern Washington, as there is desert there they can make bloom also and only a few thousand right wing 0Gentile Ranchers and businessmen who believe in Zionism to be displaced. But moving into the Mojave makes more sense. Surely they'll understand why they have to give up all of their posessions. They've been so generous with the lives of others, why should their own make any difference?

Jon Stewart last night on the Daily Show asked David Gregory, the new guy on Meet The Press, why is it that just about all American politicians publicly say they back what Israel is doing (she has a right to defend herself, etc). Stewart, who admits just about every night that he's jewish, clearly thinks Israel is in the wrong. Gregory, who is also jewish (why is it that the bulk of media people are jewish? That's another story...), couldn't answer the question.

600-700 Palestians dead and 8 jews dead. Not much more to be said except the UN and the rest of the world needs to say that Israel abide by the 100 or so UN Resolutions against it in one week or face military action.

The excuse that Hamas is lobbing rockets into Israel reminds me of what the early invaders of America used to say about Indians lobbing arrows at wagon trains. Arrows vs Howitzers. And we saw where that got the Indians.

I heard some bonehead on FAUX NEWS say that the two sides will fight until the End of Days. Seems to me hard to believe people actually think that by murdering innocent lives Jesus will congratulate them by taking them by the hand and leading them to heaven.

You cannot destroy another without destroying yourself as well. Just look at the face of Livni and you will see what I mean. Deep down in one's heart, they know murder is murder in spite of the justification. Those in Israel filled with hate are sowing the seeds of their own self-destruction; they gladly sell their souls for a tiny plot of land. Ditto for Palestine. If Palestine had equal weaponry, there would have been an armed truce established long ago. However, that is not the same as peace.

This is NOT a civilization.

There is only one solution to the Mid-east crisis and it's very simple......

Move Israel to the Mojave Desert...... Christ there's only like 5 million Jews in Israel and most of the sane ones would like to get the hell out anyway.... The religious Jews could stay as they have gotton along with the Arabs for centuries..... They're just chilling out waiting for the Real messiah to show up and start kicking some serious ass anyway......

Anywho, it would be way cheaper for the United States to move all the Jews to the Mojave Desert and the 12 billion we give them a year could be used to make the Mojave "bloom" and the money wouldn't be pissed away....

As for the religious drawback???? There is none.... Most Jews (and all their leaders since 1948) are secular.... They're a smart group and have never really believed in that phoney baloney bullshit called The Bible.... So there you have it.... Peace in the Middle East..... Just mail me the Nobel Peace Prize and the million dollar check.... I'm quite shy..... Have a nice day....Uncle Billy..

Who would not be allowed to display outrage over the
actions of Israel's equivalent of the 'SS Division Totenkopf '

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_SS_Division_Totenkopf

To only remotely accept the murder of our children,
one must already be seriously mentally muted.

When I grew up in Germany, there was no Wikipedia.
All we had was history lessons that could not convey
what really happened. We were given a formatted version
to fit our mental screens.

Wikipedia brings things up, that even Germans today can't
comprehend. After all the collective Therapy most Germans
received after 1945, some sort of 'spiritual agreement' had
to allow Germans to reintegrate into the ranks of 'We are only
Humans'.
As a matter of fact, if You are born in Germany, You are
considered German. The Jewish Religion was always integral
part of the European Culture. To be Jewish is only in one
respect different from all other ethnic, religious or political
groups.

No other group of Human Beings was the subject
to the 'Endlösung der Judenfrage'. Many different groups
of Humans were subject to the same meticulous perpetrated
genocide, The Jewish Community in Europe was the one
group that the Nazis gave a gruesome priority, while others
would have followed for sure.

Reading the article about the 'Waffen SS', my emotions got
really intense. Memories of my childhood surfaced. My Mom
would tell me stories about Poland, its beauty and its lively
hood and how great the Jewish Community was. Many of
my family members including my Grandma would speak
'Yiddish' and I remember a Great Uncle reciting the 'Erlkönig'
a classic piece of German literature in Yiddish. The pain over
what had happened to their friends and neighbors did never
disappear. My mom was twelve when she saw the trains.
They had to flee on foot because of their German descend
and their way would cross the rail road tracks to Auschwitz.

When You see and feel how 'evil' the SS-Murderers were
perceived by Your own family members, the enblem of the
'Totenkopf' Division evoked a nightmare return.

Those Guys had only contempt for 'Untermenschen'.
They believed they are exceptional. For the 'Herrenrasse'
anything Non-Aryan was simply not worth to live. The climax
of insanity was the 'Waffen SS'. Within the 'Waffen SS' was the
'Totenkopf Division'. Those people were the worst, mankind
came ever up with. There is no comparison, no comprehension
possible. The absence of anything humane, these
'Waffen Gruppen' were Killers. They killed every Human Being
that did not fit Adolf Hitlers sick fantasy world.

My mom and other members of my family were telling me
about the 'Waffen SS'. They were beating my Great Grandmother
with a rifle, because she was suspected to help her Jewish
neighbors to hide from the SS. My Great Grandmothers last name
was 'Engel', that's Angel in English. The situation was so intense,
that my Great Grandmother and other family members had to go
and prove their 'Aryan-ship', as they were living in rural Poland.
Only because my family was German descend back to 1648,
my Great Grandmother was not killed.

The stories I had from my family members are identical to the
Wikipedia articles. SS Members killed children and had great fun
with it. There are many pictures where SS-Henchmen are having
a ball executing 'Sub-Humans'.

When I saw the images of the laughing IDF soldiers the connection
was made. There is no difference between humans. They are all
prone to fall prey to a propaganda that conveys exceptionalism.
Laughing in the face of genocide is what the SS-Murderers did, too.
The beyond comprehension abused group of people, has finally
caught up to its abusers. Numbers don't matter, it is the energy
behind the atrocities. For Israel, Palestinians have now become the
same 'Sub-Humans' as the Jews were for the Nazis. People who kill
innocent children are really sick. Like those Nazis, they have only
contempt for life 'below' them.

Human mankind should take that opportunity and end all militarism.
If You believe that there will be no repercussions from the Arab
Community for killing their innocent girls and boys in large numbers,
then You will probably sleep well.
If You believe that more trouble is ahead, we better disarm before
it is too late.

May All Beings Be Blessed.
No Restrictions Or Limitations Shall Apply.

Galenwainwright - you are correct to speak about a possible backlash. Here in the UK, there have been 24 attacks against Jewish people recently, 19 in London alone. An official spokesperson said that this is "alarming", and that he "did not know the reason for the increase". Well, I am out of a job at the moment, but I think that this guy should be replaced, because he is either a coward or terminally stupid. Yes, there will be further attacks against innocent people, because millions are outraged at Israel's actions. Our politicians, by their silence, are putting people's lives in danger, and allowing the massacre of a poverty stricken hopeless community.
I think the World has turned upside down, when I hear Israeli politicians excusing every civilian murder, when I hear Tony Bliar (the "special Middle East envoy"), saying "well, we must talk to Israel as well". Does he think we are blind and stupid?

Nazism and Zionism are both forms of Fascism that progressives should completely oppose.

"Treat others as you would be.."
"I am not familiar with the news," Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni said..
Well, in the words of Mandy Rice-Davis, one time good time girl with more heart in her tiny finger than this slippery bitch has in her entire body..
"She would, wouldn't she.."
Plainly, another failure for Israeli Military Intelligence..

US, Israeli leaders must be tried at ICC: Chavez
Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:02:18 GMT
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has said US and Israeli leaders must be tried at the International Criminal Court so the world's collective conscience can rest in peace.

I'll 'second' that motion! Quick before our Corporate Fascist Masters spring
National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive 51 on us.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html

I hve been reading news sites other than this one. And I admit I have posted intemperate things here in my outrage of the Israeli slaughter.

The views and opinions I am seeing on the other sites is pointing towards a growing rage that will soon explode in the faces of Innocent Jews who have nothing to do with the actions of the Israeli government.

If the Israeli government cared at all about Jews in the wider world, it would do well to remember that there are those who will lash out with great violence at the available target becaus ethay can't attack Israel itself.

And from the actions thus far it is as if the Israeli government is doing it's damndest to provoke this very event.

Walk in peace.

Lets move Israel to Florida and have peace forever in the mid east.

85 comments so far about this story.
Stories the same on the www.cbc.ca web site have 1600 comments so far. Your comments are very tame compared to the Canadian ones. But that is the differennce we say what the hell we want when it comes to IsraHELL.
Some have gone as far as say nuke Israel off the face of the earth. Have a look as CBC is a fun site.

Here's an idea to bring this nightmare to an end.

All countries of the world should recall their ambassadors from Israel, as Venezsuela and Mauritania have done, and expell the Israeli ambassadors from their borders.

Then ALL Israeli and Israeli company assets worldwide should be seized and frozen, Israeli exports refused entry or heavily tarrifed, and travelling Israeli's refused entry as suspected terrorists, crippling the Israeli economy, and forcing the US to openly admit that they have been supplying the weapons (WP bombs, cluster bombs, DIME weapons, DU weapons, F-16 jets, Apache helicopters, Predator drones, etc.) used to murder the people of Gaza.

Walk in peace.

Might be the best thing Carla Bruni has ever done. Is Sarkozy making a whole hearted attempt?

Israel,

When you finish building your walls, please lock yourselves in and throw away the key, the world will not miss you, nor mourn your absence.

I just want to grab that child and remove him from the terror he is living through.

I can't accept this insanity is still happening on this sacred planet!

Whatever the tactical differences between the Democrats and Republicans in their imperialist aims for hegemony over the region on one thing both are in complete and total agreement; the unquestioned support for Israel and its war crimes and atrocities. There is virtually no difference between Bush and Obama on Israel, in fact, Obama is even more extreme, he called for Jerusalem to be Israel's. Some "change".

Amazing. During a search for quotes, I came upon these. What more need be said?

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
-- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

"There is no such thing as a Palestinian people... It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn't exist."
-- Golda Meir, statement to The Sunday Times, 15 June, 1969.

"This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by God Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its legitimacy."
-- Golda Meir, Le Monde, 15 October 1971

"We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!"
-- Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

"[The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs."
-- Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the 'Beasts,"' New Statesman, June 25, 1982.

"The settlement of the Land of Israel is the essence of Zionism. Without settlement, we will not fulfill Zionism. It's that simple."
-- Yitzhak Shamir, Maariv, 02/21/1997.

"(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls."
-- Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) Yitzhak Shamir in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

"Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."
-- Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, speaking to students at Bar Ilan University, from the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.

"If we thought that instead of 200 Palestinian fatalities, 2,000 dead would put an end to the fighting at a stroke, we would use much more force...."
-- Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, quoted in Associated Press, November 16, 2000.

"I would have joined a terrorist organization."
-- Ehud Barak's response to Gideon Levy, a columnist for the Ha'aretz newspaper, when Barak was asked what he would have done if he had been born a Palestinian.

"It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."
-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours...Everything we don't grab will go to them."
-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.

"Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial."
-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 25 March, 2001 quoted in BBC News Online

http://www.monabaker.com/quotes.htm

So many great posts on this thread, some that made me laugh out loud through my anger & sadness! Sites like CD serve today like the Committees of Correspondence in the 1770's, and people ready to place their bodies in places of protest at a moment's notice are, without weapons, like the Minutemen.

The person who gave the link to ANSWER and the next important march on Washington led to me that site & that fact that their was demonstration in Ithaca, NY that I just got back from. They already have a bus to take 30 people to Washington, and still have another demonstration scheduled for Thursday. The protest was located at the highest point of vehicle traffic and heartwarmedly greeted (you had to be there) with a cacophony of blaring horns and thumbs up.

We finally have a President who will listen. How much he will hear, time will tell. But, I believe that Obama and yes, Caroline, welcome our pressure (or, holding their feet to the fire) to counter the enormous pressure from big money that will help them feel feerer to act out their own CONSCIENCE. I believe they have profiles in courage, but need us to be activated to prevent them being torn down by corporate MSM.

In the great, unheralded book by James Douglass, JFK and The Unspeakable, it is explained that JFK depended upon the antiwar movement as a buttress against what Eisenhower had delineated as the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. He heard the protest, started to move toward it, and so was killed. And, then later MLK & RFK.
And, mabbe even Malcom X, John Lennon, & Peter Tosh. Yes, I'm a conspiracy theorist because THERE ARE CONSPIRACIES!

So, Obama and his Congressional comrades will need all of the support we can give them so they can be courageous to face down Big Money, the military industrial complex, MSM, etc. Posters, you have the intelligence and the fire; continue to go for it, on the web and in your communities.

>>"If there is an end to terror, an end to the smuggling of ammunition from Sinai to Gaza, the Israeli fighting will stop," Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said, referring to rockets and other weaponry Hamas obtains through tunnels under the Gaza-Egypt border.

Then Israel should stop with its terrorist tactics. Give the land back from whom it was stolen.

Israel IS the main source of terrorism in the region. Shelling UN schools where children are hiding is terrorism.

A war?
Israel uses sophisticated attack jets and naval vessels to bomb densely crowded refugee camps and slums, to attack a population that has no air force, no air defense, no navy, no heavy weapons, no artillery units, no mechanized armor, no command and control, no army, and calls it a war. It is not a war. It is murder.”

Chris Hedges
New York Times correspondent.

Zieg Heil!

Israel Uber Alles

I'm so sad -- I can't sleep -- and when I hear the late night cbs news feeds on the local a.m. 'progressive' station either fail to give a body count, or report this school massacre as being the result of Israeli military shooting at Hamas militants "near" the school, I want to run to the bathroom to throw up --

this is so incredibly sad --

I grew up around both religious and non-religious jews --

the right-wing fundamentalism in Orthodox jewry mirrors
the Christian fundamentalism here --

everyone involved in the killing is speaking directly with god,
so there's really no problem --

“I think anybody who doesn’t think I’m smart enough to handle the job is underestimating.”
[George W. Bush]

I wonder if this Israeli spokeswoman was the same blond woman who said, not only that Hamas hides among civilians but that they sometimes disguise themselves by dressing up as civilians and holding the hands of Palestinian children! I doubt if the CBC will rebroadcast that interview!

This same spokeswoman said that she would look into the situation - but only after chastising Hamas for hiding in UN schools.

Hope Jon Stewart gets a hold of the tape!

The Israeli army confirmed that 5 of their soldiers were killed today - three from friendly fire. This proves that they are more of a danger to themselves than Hamas could ever be to them.

zionists and fascists both consider the Jews a "race" go figure.

Sophie Scholl-The Final Days

from now on i see a jew as a nazi. where do americans against warmongering jews donate for a museum for the lost gaza children, women, men . is their god ,blood less than a jews god and blood.?...........hate and self rule is exactly what hitler wanted and did. isreal is apart of god's love and choices.they have decided to do as they want ,in the name of god and rely on the hoopla of doctrin,believing the masses approve. peace comes from within. there can't be peace when your kids die going to school, the hate will only increase twofold and now the pay back will happen. 2009 will be an ugly season.......iran will also get thrown with syria. possibly even no. korea. fasten your seat belts america, going to be a bumppy year.......

Tell the incoming administration what you think:

http://www.change.gov/page/s/yourvision

We need to be flooding them with dissent.

A United Nations official in Gaza said the school was clearly marked with a UN flag and its location had been reported to Israeli authorities. The monsters who are running the Israeli government and the cowards in the Israeli military are war criminals. Protests are forming all around the world, and in many countries people are attacking Jews because they are so outraged at the wanton destruction of human life by the Israelis. Only the morally bankrupt Bush administration is playing cheerleader to this massacre. Israel is putting the lives of Jews around the world in danger--and they should be the ones demanding that Israel stop the carnage.

No matter who runs, the same side always wins

Medics say 660 Palestinians, including 215 children and 98 women, have been killed
in the Israeli onslaught on the Gaza Strip.

The Israelis say "We don't care!"
The Americans say "We don't care either!"

The Gods will surely destroy both, JudeoChristianity is finished.

The Jews have BECOME the Nazis. Of all the people that should know better. I wonder if they'll bomb Iran for good measure before Bush leaves office?
Do we allow this out of European guilt, or Christian guilt? Or just stupidity. Or is it profit?

Who is that State Department apologist, Sean McCormack? You just know he doesn't agree with Bush and the neocons because his face keeps getting redder with each question. Guess it's hard to tell people Israel has taken the "moral high ground" by killing women and children.

I think the days of empathy for the Holocaust are over.

HOw DARE they bomb a UN school??

What is WRONG with the leadership of this "country"?

Cross posting from the CD article about incediary weapons:

http://english.pnn.ps/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4418&Itemid=1

As well, it is now being aknowledged that 1 million Palestinians are without electricity and water.

It would seem that Israel is using US premptive war 'shock and awe' tactics on a populace that can't even escape to become refugees.

This, combined with emerging evidence of the use of Depleted Uranium and DIME (Dense Inert Metal Explosive) technologies against civilians are all the evidence we need to condemn Israel as an agressor nation and therefore guilty in the commision of crimes against humanity.

Walk in peace.

Jon Stewart explains the situation in Gaza:

http://watch.thecomedynetwork.ca/#clip125995

Isn't it sad we get better information from a comedian than the supposed 'real' news networks?

Walk in peace.

befrgl

The hapless Gazans are merely disposable pawns in the Israeli chess game. The intent is to draw military action from their other neigbours, mainly Iran. Then the u.s will allow them to bomb at will under the "self-defence" clauses in the weapons contracts. This has been planned for months, as the israeli press admits. The rush is on, Bush is gone in 14 days, and the Feb.10 elections in israel will select the meanest, toughest criminals to lead them on....to what?
Shame on all who are complicit in this genocide!

If you can get to DC, be in Lafayette Park (N. side of WH) this Saturday, January 10.

http://answer.pephost.org/site/News2?abbr=ANS_&page=NewsArticle&id=8905

A mass protest at Obama's hotel will also hopefully materialize.

---USAn---

"Israeli President Shimon Peres says Tel Aviv has no qualms about its public image despite world condemnation of its assault on Gaza."

Israel is a nation without a conscience. I may not be able to do anything about that other than boycott Israel and it's supporters. It's a small step and I'll never vote for another AIPAC candidate (Republican or Democratic) again - not in this lifetime.

I have an idea. And it is just as viable as those who scream that the Palestininas must unilaterally disarm and allow Israel to kill them as it wills.

A new Diaspora. That is, the forcible relocation of every Jew living in the UN created fiction called Israel to those countries that blindly support it's government and it's genocidal policies.

Tear down that damned wall. And I don't mean that blasphemous concrete 'security barrier'. The Wailing Wall is the last remnant of Solomons Temple. And as such, as long as there is even the remote possibility that it could be rebuilt to further the murderous fantasies of extremist Jews and Christians alike, we will have violence because of it.

I know, I know, it's a great archaeological treasure.

Bullshit.

If archaeologiocal treasures were so important, the world would have stepped in and stopped the US occupation of Iraq after it was revealed that the City of Ur, the first known city, had been destroyed by the US air base that had been built right through the middle of it. A World Heritage site is now little more than dust being blown around by US military transport planes.

Some of CD people are stuck on their "hate" button. If we want peace, we have to make peace. Ali Abunimah said that and many others. Bicker, then do something. Time to get "off the dime" folks, as people in/of this country and the world. Howard Zinn, "You Can't Be Neutral on A Moving Train", Boston:Beacon Press, 2003 edition has a fab intro. It's his autobio, which some call a memoir. It's like a "how to" for social change. His speech, transcript of, on DemocracyNow played on show, Jan. 2, 2009 is brilliant. www.democracynow.org Read the speech to understand where you,me,we are in history and the difference between government's interests and our interests, and then do something. (Yes, I'm a big Zinn fan.) PS I can't see much difference between the child in the photo with this article and my own child when that age:look similar. I'm a Jewish woman.