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What's Next for U.S.-Libyan Relations?
With vast oil reserves but a deeply divided country, Libya is vulnerable to outside powers after Gaddafi's death.
After Muammar Gaddafi's demise, the future of Libya's relationship with the United States remains uncertain.
Libya ousted its longtime leader in essentially a civil war in which the U.S. and NATO backed one side. This is a stark contrast with the independent and largely nonviolent revolutionary processes that led to the ouster of dictators in Egypt and Tunisia, and are still underway in much of the Arab world.
But Washington wasn't the NATO intervention's original instigator. That role lay in Europe, starting with France, whose president was still smarting from political attacks for his too-little-too-late response to the Tunisian uprising. It set the stage for Europe to exert special influence in Libya's new government, which will probably also give Europe privileged access to Libya's oil.
Ironically, Europe and the United States didn't really need a war to create good relations with Libya — they already had them. After the 9/11 terrorist attacks, when the Bush administration was eager to round up new recruits for its "global war on terror," it sent emissaries to make nice with the long-excoriated Libyan leader.
Soon, Gaddafi was brought in from the cold. He agreed to dismantle Libya's nascent nuclear program and offered compensation to families of the Lockerbie bombing. He even resumed normal diplomatic relations with the United States and Western Europe, his once-and-future enemies. Within a few years, U.S. and European oil companies were inking contracts. By 2007, photos of Gaddafi arm-in-arm with French President Nicolas Sarkozy, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi — as well as George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and, famously, Condoleezza Rice — were commonplace.
For the United States in 2011, the strategic interest in turning on Gaddafi, despite these newfound chummy relations, was primarily rooted in the fear of losing control. Gaddafi was our guy — but Washington had to ask: What if? What if the mercurial Libyan leader, under pressure from anti-dictatorship democratization processes next door, reversed course and turned to Washington's enemies for strategic ties?
"What if?" quickly became "yes, let's." The Libyan opposition leaders who first said, "We can do it ourselves," started saying, "just a no-fly zone, but no foreign intervention" — even though top U.S. generals had already said you couldn't have one without the other. Now, the question of whether, when, and to what degree a new Libya can break free of its current dependence on Western militaries and other strategic backers remains unanswered.
In his 42-year reign, Gaddafi concentrated power in his own hands and allowed little freedom of speech, assembly, or political opposition. He used Libya's oil revenue to arm and train a set of geographically and politically separate militias, many of them commanded by his sons and other relatives. They answered only to him, and the official national army remained relatively weak.
But Libya's oil wealth is massive enough — especially in light of the country's small population — that Libyans enjoyed national systems of healthcare, education, and other public services that were relatively good by developing-nation standards. Libya ranks No. 53, according to the UN's human development indicators, for example — higher than Saudi Arabia, Russia, or Brazil. So it wasn't surprising that many Libyans continued to support Gaddafi despite his repression.
The challenge facing post-Gaddafi Libya is daunting. The power, accountability, and especially the legitimacy of the interim governing structure remain contested. The civil war created new divisions and consolidated others between the diverse parts of the Libyan population.
The transitional government has pledged to hold elections within eight months. But it won't be easy to hold free-and-fair elections so quickly in a country with no recent legacy of political parties or civil society institutions. Meanwhile, it's worth asking whether Washington's offers of "help" will instead serve as cover for ensuring a continuing U.S. foothold in the very center of an otherwise increasingly independent region.
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Show AllThe new governing clique in Libya has been torturing people and I guess this will be useful to the Obama administration when they want to torture use this service and I see where they have already imposed Islamic law on their people so all the idiots in America who are claiming this war is a great victory for NATO or the peole of Libya are as dumb as the people who followed Bush into Iraq.
Agreed. And Hillary cackling: "We came, we saw, he died" after Ghadhafi was brutally beaten, bloody, tied to the front of a jeep and paraded through the streets, and murdered is obscene. This makes it crystal clear that, when it comes to foreign policy, neoliberalism and neoconservatism are just two sides of the same coin. Hillary's gleeful, hate-filled words could have as easily have been spewed by Condoleeza Rice. Nasty, nasty people all around.
Hillary looks like she has a hangover in all her photo ops these days. Her face is soft and bloated and she has that haggard look about her. Probably from too many toasts to American Exceptionalism.
One might have thought that Ms Bennis, who often speaks on national & international law & norms, would have critiqued FUK-US NATO's illegal assault on Libya under the guise of 'R2P' in order to effect 'regime change'. Or how blantatly illegal it was for Billary to come to Libya to issue a Hit Order out on Khadaffi 2 days before he was Illegally & Summarily Executed at the hands of that FUK-US NATO backed AL-CIAeda / King Idris Affiliated Rebel Racist Lynch Mob [or by NATO &/or Qatari Special Forces Mercs dressed as rebels], &/or how distasteful [hateful] it was for Billary to then joke about it saying 'I came, I saw, He died'! But the only thing Ms Bennis had to say about all of this was: 'After Muammar Gaddafi's demise, the future of Libya's relationship with the United States remains uncertain.'
Also From the Article: 'Libyan opposition leaders who first said, "We can do it ourselves," started saying, "just a no-fly zone, but no foreign intervention" — even though top U.S. generals had already said you couldn't have one without the other. Now, the question of whether, when, and to what degree a new Libya can break free of its current dependence on Western militaries and other strategic backers remains unanswered....' <
What One might expect for Libya in the coming months, yrs & decades: Conditions Likened unto Iraq & Afghanistan- IE: Anarchy as the FUK-US NATO backed Rebels [NTC] goes thru the motions [charade] of elections in order to 'officially' install a puppet regime to do the bidding of the US, UK, France, the Saudis & Qataris, etc. Or Libya might end up like Somalia without an effective Gov't for decades. Or like its neighbor Sudan broken in two [or maybe into three parts like US VP Joe Biden planned to do in Iraq- IE: Shia-stan, Sunni-stan, Kurdish-stan].
Expect Libya's Oil, Water, Bank, etc & associated infrastructure to be privatized & divided-up between western foreign Corps. Yet expect most of Libya's schools, hospitals, homes, etc - that were bombed by FUK-US NATO to remain in ruins for yrs - just like in Iraq & Haiti...
Expect Libyans to suffer for decades from the ill-effects of FUK-US NATO's Rain of Bombs & Terror- which some were certainly DU encased bombs & un-exploded bomblets & mines - which will continue to deform & kill Libyans for yrs & decades [think Vietnam or Fallujah in Iraq]...
Expect this AL-CIAeda / King Idris Affiliated Racist Lynch Mob to continue on-going reprisals against Khadaffi loyalists & atrocities & ethnic cleansing of Black Libyans & Africans in Southern Libya w the conflict spilling over into neighboring African countries like Chad & Niger...
Anticipate US & NATO bases in Libya which will likely house AFRICOM to raise more HELL in other parts of Africa...
Do NOT Expect an 'All's Well that Ends Well - Honky Dory' Ending for Libya!
(But Condoleeza has more class then that).
The new rulers of Libya have declared the establishment of an Islamic state and imposed Sharia law. This is bad news for the women, Christians and Jews living in Libya and simply means the replacement of one tyranny for an even worse tyranny on the general population. The Arab spring has turned into a nightmare and a major disaster for Obama.
Egypt will probably follow suit and the real winner will be Iran.
Bennis is playing games with words. In such times you get to know who is in the foxhole with you. .. and she is not alone.
How does one gloss over such an incredible distribution of wealth. Her article seems to imply that the standard of leaving was so great because there was too much wealth to go around. Phyllis should give credit where credit is due. In the US and Europe were they sell snake oil free speech, democracy and other emty symbolic jargon. poverty and decay is ubuquitous.
To white supremacist and their constables, unless, a people follow the exact contours of western democracy, whatever that means, they have labeled as having concentrated power and are dictators, regardless of access to food, shelter, healthcare, security etc.
If democracy worked that well, Europe and America will not have perfected the skill of stealing other peoples money, resources and leaders
These western leftist and their cross connected affiliations. These modern day colonial missionaries.
This is a disappointing article.
The oil is only one resource. Among the others, Libya has a large supply of underground water (and, lucky Libya! - the French are leaders in global privatization of water).
The Transitional National Council (TNC) or the National Transitional Council (NTC) has two chairmen.
Chairman Mr. Jalil is a lawyer who is pushing sharia law, while
Executive committee chairman Mr. Jebril (who we hear much less about) is a devout advocate of privatization.
With this set-up, the idea of "free and fair" elections is ridiculous.
The only "uncertain"ty is exactly how corrupt the new U.S./European controlled government will be.
"What's Next for U.S.-Libyan Relations?"
A stupid article with an even stupider title. What's next for the US/CIA installed dictatorship? I'll look into my crystal ball for you.
1. The goons installed by the CIA will do anything we tell them to do or we will murder them like we did Gaddafi.
2. The free medical care, education, and housing programs will be abolished, because once all of the oil profits are handed over to the oil corporations there won't be anything left for the Libyan people. The Libyans will go back to sleeping on dirt floors and watching their children starve.
3. The Libyan people won't complain because the police the CIA will install will make the Shah's Savak looks like Mother Theresa.
4. The English and French will get all the water they need by draining the Libyan aquifer. But they won't take everything, they will leave the sand for the Libyan children.
5. Africom will get the foothold base they need in Africa to (a) turn the Mediterranean into an American lake, and (b) use the new Africom base as a starting point for recolonizing the rest of Africa.
6. Americans will congratulate themselves for being so exceptional. They may be right, however, because there are all kinds of exceptionalism (the Huns were also exceptional).
7. Americans will scratch their heads and wonder why everyone hates them.
8. Obama will get another Nobel Peace Prize.
9. Karma will eventually come to visit the good old USA.
Great response, Caleb.
Seems those commenting on this site know more about Libya, who was behind it and who is now in charge than Ms. Bennis. Webster Tarpley (tarpley.net) and Global Research (globalresearch.ca) offers much better and accurate analysis on this situation.
Time to dump Obama: primaryobamanow.com
Phyllis Bennis
Your rhetorical question -- "What's Next for U.S.-Libyan Relations?" -- is so U.S.centric in its focus that it could have been written by David Ignatius, the Washington Post's favorite Pentagon/CIA stenographer and go-to guy for intentional leaks, who expresses similar concerns following what you have elected to sanitize as "Muammar Gaddafi's demise" rather than his brutal lynching by the U.S. and NATO-backed "rag-tag rebels" who captured Gaddafi after his convoy was hit by a NATO airstrike or missile from a U.S. predator drone (reports differ) to assist the baying mob in carrying out their grisly business which, incidentally, constitutes a war crime of significant magnitude and an egregious violation of international law.
Ignatius, too, employs the tasteful euphemism "Gaddafi's demise" in a recent WaPo column in which he touts Obama's "success" in the Libyan adventure and agrees that "it’s a good time to assess the United States’ larger Libyan policy." He cheerfully explains: "A White House team has been studying since March what to do 'the day after' the leader was gone, and happily, most of the potential disasters they worried about haven’t happened." Here, I would add the cautionary words, "not yet."
Still, if you're truly curious about the "New Libya" -- which is likely to be a barbaric combination of Natopia and Lynchmobia -- perhaps Pepe Escobar can shed some light on the future that awaits the "liberated" Libyans:
"How the West Won Libya"
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MJ22Ak03.html
"Welcome to the new Libya. Intolerant Islamist militias will turn the lives of Libyan women into a living hell. Hundreds of thousands of Sub-Saharan Africans - those who could not escape - will be ruthlessly persecuted. Libya's natural wealth will be plundered. That collection of anti-aircraft missiles appropriated by Islamists will be a supremely convincing reason for the "war on terror" in northern Africa to become eternal. There will be blood - civil war blood, because Tripolitania will refuse to be ruled by backward Cyrenaica."
Obama and his Western allies and wobbly Arab League and Gulf Cooperation Council satraps have made a mockery of the R2P (responsibility to protect") doctrine by using it as the fig leaf to justify military intervention in which the goal was regime change culminating in the capture or killing (always favoring the latter) of Gaddafi and his sons and his grandchildren and his government officials.
If you have any doubt about the future relationship between the U.S. and the post- Gaddafi Libya, I suggest that you ask David Petraeus at the C.I.A. and Hillary Clinton at the State Department -- they have the hegemon's template bequeathed to them by George W. Bush and Condoleeza Rice. If past is prologue, the toxic relationships forged by the U.S. in an orgy of violence with Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Yemen offer the most recent object lessons of what to expect with Libya in the future. Mission Accomplished!
Pity the nation that is singled out for "libaration" and "help" from the United States of America.
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Another one better informed than Ms. Bennis.
"What's Next for U.S.-Libyan Relations?"
Let's see, a rapacious major power and a powerless country with valuable natural resources. What could happen next?
That's a hard one.
The neocon democrats who pushed so hard for this coup d'etat must want to pay this new clique for the purpose of rendition and torture as they continue to expand their imperialistic wars.
I'm glad that so many commentators set things straight here and the comment section of Common Dreams is one of the few bright spots in the internet misinformation jungle.
Gaddafi was not the typical military dictator and not comparable with other autocratic Arab leaders like Hamid Bin Isa Al Khalifa, Ali Abdullah Saleh, the Saudi royal family, and King Mohammed VI. He refused any title and retired to private life, his influence was as a respected former leader. He was ruthless with Islamic extremists and he made the mistake to try to accommodate the USA by accepting the rendition of terror suspects sent by the CIA to Libya. He should have known that one cannot deal with monsters!
It needed eight month and the help of tens of thousands of bombs and missiles, shiploads of weapons, CIA and NATO instructors, cruise missiles, drone attacks, helicopter gunships, heavy bombardment by naval artillery and missiles launched from US and British ships and submarines, to overthrow Gaddafi. The war propagandists still want to make us believe, that this was a "popular uprising," sweeping away a hated dictator? How pathetic!
Gaddafi now will definitely join Che Guevara, Patrice Lumumba, and Salvador Allende in my shrine of fallen heroes.
Sad that Phyllis Bennis, Amy Goodman and other progressive pundits join in and parrot the lies of corporate mass media. Cindy Sheehan (in her "Soapbox") and Alexander Cockburn (Counterpunch) did not. Thank you Cindy and Alexander!
You are kidding right?
"Dante, if all you have to do is knock other people's posts without ever saying anything yourself, then you would do better to simply not even post. "
Thank you for the advice.....But...actually I support everyone who post on this site....(Even those who present long pretentious redundancies)
Forgive my knee jerk reaction to a post I did not agree with
"You seem to be not coherent enough to be able to say why you are saying that, Guy. So all your own post really is is just an insulting and empty flame."
My name is not Guy...My intention was not to insult the poster...But...your intention was to insult me..I will here forgive you for your unsuccessful attempt to do so..
You have a good day Pinchy
Thomas Gilbert-
Mato,
Sorry about my "Your kidding.." response to your comment ..My comment was more of a knee jerk reaction to your notion that Gaddafi could stand in anyone's (including your own) shrine of fallen heroes..
.I strongly disagree with your notion that Gaddafi is somehow to be regarded as a hero...My opinion (and it is just an opinion) is that he was just another thug..If there exists somewhere a shrine for thugs than I would agree he would justifiably occupy a very prominent position in such a place...
But once again it is about opinions..You have yours and I have mine....
My original response was not intended to be dismissive of your well written commentary ...I will make myself clearer in the future......
Thomas Gilbert-
Another excellent one! Thanks.