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Loose Lips on Iran Could Sink America
The omnipresent World War II-era posters with the words "Loose Lips Sink Ships" served as a warning to members of the U.S. military to take heed lest they divulge information that could tip off the enemy and result in defeat in battle.
I believe we need a new poster, because loose lips can also sink whole countries - including our own.
This is a lesson that members of Congress and Washington's media honchos should have learned from the disastrous invasion of Iraq; especially the ones whose lips helped President George W. Bush portray Saddam Hussein as a monster bristling with "weapons of mass destruction."
In that time frame, of course, cooperating with Bush was "the smart play" for one's career, even for many Democrats and liberal opinion leaders. But those politicians and pundits now should share responsibility for having allowed Bush to mislead the nation into a war that has maimed and killed thousands of American soldiers, not to mention hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians, with millions more driven from their homes into fetid refugee camps. The complicit lawmakers also helped sail the American ship of state into a vast iceberg of debt.
In Washington, however, holding such powerful people accountable has become what former White House counsel and then Attorney General, Alberto Gonzales, would call "quaint" or "obsolete" - like adhering to the Geneva Conventions.
But wait; unless our Constitution has been relegated to the same status, we do have a chance every two years to make a judgment about politicians, whether they should continue to represent us or be driven from office. (Sadly, there's less public leverage over the fate of pundits.)
Recently I have been looking on in disbelief as some of the same Democrats (and media personalities) who helped grease the skids for the unnecessary, unprovoked attack on Iraq, are doing a reprise - changing the script from Iraq to Iran.
The same kind of macho language (by no means limited to testosterone-laden men) is coming from lips of lawmakers who think that hyping the "threat" from Iran will position them well in winning an election (or perhaps buy some street cred with some campaign funders or the media mainstream).
‘Real Men Go to Tehran!'
Think back seven years and recall the Blackwater-style bravado from the lips of neoconservatives like Donald Rumsfeld's crony Kenneth Adelman - the fellow who assured us all that Iraq would be a "cakewalk."
Even as this proved to be a fantasy, his neoconservative colleagues were beating their breasts like Tarzan and setting their eyes on Iran. The neocon joke at the time questioned what the next target should be - Syria or Iran? - with the punch line, "Real men go to Tehran!"
Then and today, however, it was not just Tarzans who were spoiling for a fight in the Middle East, but some Janes-in particular, Rep. Jane Harman, a California Democrat who was a senior member of the House Intelligence Committee at the time of the Iraq invasion.
From her position on the Intelligence Committee, Harman was better positioned than most of her colleagues to know that Bush was hyping or inventing the evidence of Iraq's alleged WMD, but she still joined the stampede to war. Inventing evidence? Sadly true.
After the invasion and an exhaustive bipartisan investigation, Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller concluded that the Bush/Cheney administration "presented intelligence as fact when in reality it was unsubstantiated, contradicted, or even non-existent."
Back in 2003, however, it would have taken some political courage to call out Bush and his team on their flimsy "evidence" or their outright lies. Career-wise, there was plenty of upside - and no discernable downside - to go along.
But why am I reprising this history now, you ask? Because it turns out Jane and some of the Tarzans are at it again, hyping the "threat" from Iran, where "real men" - and apparently some "real women" - still want to go.
Speaking on the House floor on April 22, Harman said:
"I am often asked to name those countries I think pose the greatest threat to the security of our country and the world. ... My answer every time is Iran, Iran, Iran. ... Given its myopic obsession with the destruction of Israel ... and its implacable, duplicitous march toward a nuclear weapons capability, in my view no other country comes close."
(More objective observers might say, "Pakistan, Pakistan, Pakistan," an unstable Islamic nation that actually acquired nuclear weapons with the acquiescence of the Reagan administration in the 1980s and is today the home for al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups, including the trainers of alleged Time Square bomber Faisal Shahzad. Shahzad's father, Bahar Ul Haq, was a former Pakistani air vice marshal reportedly with some responsibility over the security of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal.)
Iran-Obsessed
But Harman is focused on Iran, which is a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, has renounced any intention of having nukes, and is considered years away from building one even if it wanted to.
To punish Iran for its speculative interest in nuclear weapons, Harman called for sanctions to "cripple Iran's ability to import refined petroleum products." (As a Harvard-educated lawyer, she should be aware that, under international law, such a blockade would be an act of war. It also would inflict widespread hardship on the Iranian people.)
But Israel's right-wing Likud government and America's neocons have identified Iran as the new enemy. So, in line with that assessment, Harman ended her oration thusly:
"Iran with nuclear weapons not only poses an existential threat to Israel; it poses an existential threat to us [vocal emphasis hers] and to countries everywhere which espouse democratic values."
Not even hawkish Secretary of State Hillary Clinton goes that far. At a formal press conference in Qatar, she said, "Iran doesn't directly threaten the United States," though she added that Iran was a threat to U.S. friends in the region. Clinton's momentary deviation from the more alarmist rhetoric that official Washington favors when discussing Iran came while answering a question at a formal press conference in Doha, Qatar on Feb. 14. (Check it out; last time I looked, it was still on the State Department's Web site.) Clinton said:
"Part of the goal ... we were pursuing was to try to influence the Iranian decision regarding whether or not to pursue a nuclear weapon. And, as I said in my speech ... the evidence is accumulating that that [pursuing a nuclear weapon] is exactly what they are trying to do, which is deeply concerning, because it doesn't directly threaten the United States, but it directly threatens a lot of our friends, allies, and partners here in this region and beyond."
When his turn came, Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Al-Thani did not join in the fear mongering, even when asked directly about "the danger that the Secretary just alluded to ... if Iran gets the bomb." In answer, he implied, diplomatically but clearly, that he was at least as much afraid of what Israel and the U.S. might do, as what Iran might do. [For more, see "Is Iran Really a Threat?", April 26, 2010.]
Unspoken Friend
The chief unspoken "friend" that Secretary Clinton claims is "directly threatened" by Iran is, of course, Israel, a nation which already has 200-300 nuclear weapons, has refused to sign the NPT and won't even acknowledge its own nuclear arsenal in defiance of U.S. policy favoring adherence to the NPT and greater transparency on nuclear weapons.
The Israeli arsenal could easily incinerate Iran - if Iran does manage to build one or two nukes and is eager to commit suicide by threatening Israel. But let's just assume, for argument's sake, that the Israeli leaders really do consider Iran an "existential threat" to Israel. Should American lawmakers and opinion leaders hype a theoretical threat to Israel as a threat to the United States?
On one level, Clinton's candor that Iran is not threatening the United States was refreshing. She seemed to be following the example of the Director of National Intelligence and his subordinates, who are carefully hewing to the judgments of the most recent formal National Intelligence Estimate, "Iran: Nuclear Intentions and Capabilities," approved unanimously by all 16 U.S. intelligence agencies in November 2007.
That Estimate began with these words:
"We judge with high confidence that in fall 2003, Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program; we also assess with moderate-to-high confidence that Tehran at a minimum is keeping open the option to develop nuclear weapons...
"We assess with moderate confidence Tehran had not restarted its nuclear program as of mid-2007, but we do not know whether it currently intends to develop nuclear weapons...
"Tehran's decision to halt its nuclear weapons program suggests it is less determined to develop nuclear weapons than we have been judging since 2005."
That National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) is now being updated, but recent congressional testimony by senior intelligence community officials has been consistent with the judgments of late 2007.
Gen. Ronald Burgess, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, and Gen. James Cartwright, Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, addressed these issues in testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee on April 21.
Answering the question as to how soon Iran could have a deliverable nuclear weapon, Gen. Cartwright said:
"Experience says it is going to take you three to five years" to move from having enough highly enriched uranium to having a "deliverable weapon that is usable."
The NIE of 2007 stated that if Iran does decide to pursue nuclear weapons, "We judge with moderate confidence that Iran probably would be technically capable of producing enough HEU [highly enriched uranium] for a weapon sometime during the 2010-2015 time frame."
It appears that the time line for the hypothetical Iranian nuclear "threat" is slipping backward-not leaping forward, as Israeli officials and others insist.
According to press reports, the NIE-update will not be ready until August, and the Obama administration won't release its key judgments, as was done in late 2007. It is a safe bet, though, that we shall learn of the revisions in due course and thus have a better take on any changes in Iran's nuclear capabilities and intentions.
Getting Played Again
What concerns me greatly, however, is that the American people are being played again by those both in government and the media who wish to zap Iran.
"Do you think Iran currently has nuclear weapons, or not?" Americans were asked in a CNN poll taken earlier this year (Feb. 12-15). Seventy-one percent of Americans polled answered incorrectly, Yes.
That's very close to the percentage of Americans misled into believing that Saddam Hussein was developing nuclear weapons before the attack on Iraq in March 2003. Only later was the Bush administration forced to admit that its claims about an active Iraqi nuclear program were bogus.
Of equal concern to me are the statements of politicians who apparently believe we have forgotten the hype that got us into the Iraq mess - and are trying again to stoke a confrontation with Iran. The front-burner question today is whether loose lips and looser thinking will lead to an even more disastrous war with Iran BEFORE the intelligence community finishes its update on Iran's nuclear capabilities and intentions.
Given the consistency of the recent testimony of top intelligence officials, I will be much surprised if the NIE update comes to conclusions that differ substantially from the judgments of November 2007.
Ironically, that possibility provides more incentive for those who wish to attack Iran sooner rather than later, much as President Bush pushed United Nations inspectors out of Iraq in March 2003 and rushed ahead with the invasion before Americans woke up to the fact that the inspectors weren't finding any Iraqi WMD stockpiles because none existed.
I worry that Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu will take the initiative now and provoke hostilities with Iran, judging that political realities in the United States would then leave President Barack Obama little choice but to "finish the job."
No Confidence in the FCM
Another concern is that the Fawning Corporate Media remains as easily manipulated by the neocons and other hardliners as it was in 2003. Again, there are plenty of career rewards for talking tough about Iran and none for showing moderation. In this overheated climate of anti-Iran hysteria, politicians also will be tempted to ratchet up their rhetoric to come across as tough and "realistic." That, in turn, might convince Netanyahu that the time is right to force Obama's hand.
One might have hoped that after the Iraq fiasco, American voters would be smarter - and more resistant to clever propaganda - but the CNN poll on their misplaced confidence about Iran having nukes provides little reassurance.
As for Harman, she is facing a strong Democratic challenger, progressive Marcy Winograd, in the June 8 primary for California's 36th district. Because Harman has a personal fortune of about a half-billion (that's right, billion) dollars from which to draw - and Winograd says she is accepting "not one dime" of corporate money - the race is viewed as a test of whether it is possible for candidates to win without heaps of money for ad buys and other expenses.
The race also could measure whether Democratic voters will demand some accountability for lawmakers who sided with President Bush and the neocons in rushing the United States off to war in Iraq - and who now are spoiling for another fight with Iran.
I don't know how those tests will work out, especially given the continued sludge of one-sided propaganda that flows from the FCM.
What I do know is that incendiary rhetoric from lips like Harman's about the option of a military strike on Iran, her strident advocacy of an act of war (blockade), and her pretense that Netanyahu's claim of an "existential threat" from Iran applies also to the United States is a highly flammable mix.
It is just the kind of rhetoric that could give Netanyahu confidence that he can take matters into his own hands.
This will go in spades if Harman proves to be correct in thinking that her constituents are just as gullible as the ones who answered CNN pollsters in mid-February.
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Show All>>> "... her pretense that Netanyahu's claim of an "existential threat" from Iran applies also to the United States is a highly flammable mix. "
No country on earth is an existential threat to the United States.
C'mon Ray, stop with the "Sink America" horseshit.
"No country on earth is an existential threat to the United States."
Bullshit.
If a country exists, and it has resources that it will not just hand over to the rapacious United States, it will be listed as a threat.
Very true.
If our military industrial complex cant rape your land, resources, and labor then we have a threat. People dont hate us for our "freedom." I'm sure they are dying of envy from not watching Rock of Love, Jersey Shore, NBA, MLB, and Dancing With the Stars.
People hate us because we leave trails of death from who ever doesnt bow to us. A predator drone blew up a wedding. 60 people were killed. Imagine the hate that breeds. How can we be liberating anyone from tyranny when we are committing atrocities like this? Or the apache massacring 12 people, shooting children, blowing up good Samaritans picking up wounded citizens.
This entire threat subject is a cruel, sick, murderous joke. I hate the fact that people are so easily manipulated by lies.
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
Russia is still an existential threat to the U.S. as long has we both retain thousands of strategic nukes designed to fire at each other. China is an existential economic threat. Pakistan's nukes falling into the hands of terrorists is a serious potential existential threat. If North Korea develops or has developed a delivery device for its nukes it is an existential threat. Israel, currently governed by unhinged far-right nut-jobs, poses an existential threat to the U.S. from blowback if it takes matters into its own hands and didn't help our national reputation with that disproportionate national bombardment/humanitarian nightmare it fellated the Bush/Cheney Junta into aiding and arming in Lebanon in 2006. There is no proof whatsoever that Iran is an existential threat and if you are one of those fools who still believes in "preemptive war" the pointless cost in U.S. and Iraqi blood and treasure should have been your object lesson.
The United States is its own greatest threat: its wars against, and occupations of, other lands, and its empire of military bases are ruining it, above all. We know from the housing crisis, the financial meltdown, the health care system, the handling of Katrina and of off-shore drilling, mountain top stripping, coal mining, et cetera, that the economic system and the bureaucracy are a threat to the majority of the residents of the United States.
I think you missed the point.
Iran is not an existential threat to the U.S. But us continuing to engage in unfunded and unnecessary wars and occupations year after year is the threat the the U.S.
The country that is an existential threat to the U.S. *is* the U.S.
The Media now makes the claim that Osama Bin Laden lives the life of luxury in Iran. When questioned on this by a "reporter" the President of Iran suggested it more likely Osama Bin Laden is hiding out in Washington.
The intrepid reporter persisted in questioning Irans President...with So you are not denying he in Iran type questions....
Watch for "Unamed sources wishing their names be kept secret so as not to affect national security" to start repeating this story to more of these "Journalists".
Can you please cite the source of this questioning. It would be interesting to read. Thanks,
OYE
Here you go:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100505/twl-osama-bin-laden-alive-and-well-in-ir-3fd0ae9.html
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Osama-Bin-Laden-Alive-And-Well-And-Living-In-Iran-Says-Leading-Falconer-Alan-Parrot/Article/201005115625777?f=rss
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/05/03/usama-bin-laden-living-comfortably-iran-documentary-asserts/
---Here is the story where George Stephanopoulos questions Ahmadinejad about the Osama Bin Laden in Iran:
http://www.theinsidestraight.net/ballew/2010/05/05/iran-president-mahmoud-ahmadinejad-osama-bin-laden-is-in-washington-d-c-abc-news/
Thank you!!!
Just wait for the mushroom cloud analogy !
It does seem that 70+% of Americans will generally believe absolutely ANYTHING corporate media and our imperialist Congress tells them. Always. Most Americans no doubt still believe Saddam had WMD and probably nukes, and still think the invasion/occupation was a great idea and has worked to our and Iraq's advantage. That 71% actually believe Iran already has nuclear weapons tells us more than we want to know about the abysmal ignorance of Americans when it comes to any and all issues involving war and peace. We are simply too stupid, and deliberately so, to be trusted with even the shell of democracy, which of course we don't have anyway. Since the Harmans in Congress and the punditocracy will certainly keep beating the drums of war against Iran, we can be assured that Americans will remain as oblivious as ever to the truth. Obama will read the tea leaves from the tea partiers and keep war fever in motion until the time seems ripe to strike Iran. I see no way we'll ever get off this absurd hamster wheel of perpetual war. A compelling majority of us are simply too devoted to suicidal and genocidal ignorance.
GREED -- NOT IGNORANCE
For your upper half of society knows full will that an invasion of Iran will fatten their paychecks and be a plunder they hope no nation ever does to them.
And my laboring class knows full will that ever you of the 51% educated majority should decide to do, it will still be minimum wage poverty and no healthcare for us.
You mean full well, not "full will."
Bless your darling heart, now you know us dumb laboring men can't tell the difference.
For the U.S. to be a safe haven for investment isn't it imperative to create an otherwise unsafe world??
Sioux Rose
EPHRAIM: If the media was not in the hands of only five corporations who profit from (and/or are invested in) war... you can be sure that the massive disinformation campaigns that lead to these outrageous poll numbers would not be allowed to do the work that results in so much harm (as per Ms. Harm-an).
The economics of our times are such that only a small percentage of persons has the time to seek out true news. Quite a few people still believe in brand names, that CNN delivers TRUE news, that PBS delivers the best intellectual opinions of our day. Sure, the Fox crowd and those who listen to Hate radio may be proud of their ignorance and in their numbers find a complacency that ought not exist. Worse still, that so many fundamentalist Christian churches, pro-bama organizations, and Zionist synagogues promote a world view absolutely focused on the team style "us" versus "them."
My point is that these numbers have been engineered in a mass psychology experiment that has made the love for (or certainly acceptance of) war the cultural icon of our times. When sports, Hollywood, TV, religious and secular "leaders," all broadcast the same themes, talking points, and rationales... between ignorance, the need to belong (i.e. conform), and the stealth attacks on truth, 70% becomes the tragic outcome. Stupidity required (or relied upon) LOTS of high-paid help...
All true, Sioux Rose, though I do think that much of the reason so many have no time "to seek out true news" is that they're simply too lazy to do it. They have plenty of time for overdosing on TV, where they're met with nothing but lies, distortion, mis- and disinformation. And they don't really "trust" what they might find on the internet, certainly not on sites like this one. Most of them trust Anderson Cooper, Brian Williams, Katie Couric, Wolf Blitzer and their ilk because they think they're just delivering unbiased news, with no spin in any direction. They think the views and analysis expressed at places like CD are loaded with leftist bias and agenda, which they don't trust at all, while they may give some credence to Fox propaganda and rightwing talk radio, even if they aren't rabidly far right. The myth that corporate news is the most reliable out there stubbornly clings to the everyday American mindset. All those institutions you mention definitely keep the pro-war message current, but as much of the problem lies in a continuing American distrust of any news that comes from outside the mainstream.
Sioux Rose
EPHRAIM: I agree with your points, however, why do you suppose it is that the public by in large believes the news casters? Notice how well groomed most are, good looking types with perfect toothpaste smiles? A lot of prior conditioning has made it possible for the public to be as deluded as it is, and as suspicious of truth as found on sites like this one. I can only speak about politics and economics with very few persons as a result. They think I am exaggerating, or that I am not aware of what they "know," etc. They trust in sources I have discredited long ago.
In the book I wrote about these times, "The Final Phase of the Piscean Age," I relate how awful the climate has become for truth itself... and when so many have been fed a mental diet of shit so long, they truly cannot recognize the genuine article. The Biblical prophecies speak of Satan using deception as his chief weapon, that he would devise the wolf to walk in sheep's clothing and that the masses would not recognize this entity. If taken as a symbol, as opposed to the belief in a being known as Satan, then I think the prophecy is quite apt.
When food itself has departed from the genuine element, when leaders traffic in false hope and deliver death and destruction, when the making of war is promoted as the path to peace, when money is divorced from any metric of real worth... we reside in a massive hive of dangerous illusions and deceptions. Aquarius, next to rise on the cosmic dial is the sign that champions Truth above every other ideal and objective... the hard part is bringing about that awakening that would allow those long deceived to recognize truth, the path to their own liberation. THAT is the challenge I have been facing in just about everything I've written in the past 20 years. Lately I've taken out works done in the l990's and revised them as they are so relevant to our times.
No argument here. I love your phrase, "we reside in a massive hive of dangerous illusions and deceptions." If the dawning of the age of Aquarius can deliver us from this pervasive evil . . . what's taking it so long? I'm afraid I'll be doddering in my dotage by the time that glorious age arrives. Meanwhile, we have to live in the burnt out end of Pisces, when all the worst characteristics of that age of senility and depredation are our daily breadcrumbs.
Sioux Rose
EPHRAIM: Given that so many on our planet have been under thrall to major sports, perhaps it's best to think of our times along those lines. We are both spectators and midwives to the process that will usher in another way of living, being, and perceiving... of course the forces that wish to maintain the status quo, its expiration date knocking, are like the ferment on the top of rich wine. They are using all sorts of tricks, tactics, and genuine evil to maintain power. So we are seeing the ugliness on full display. Yet even those who are befuddled by so many deceitful messages DO KNOW that things are not right. Unfortunately corrupt religious leaders have managed to convince followers that it is GOD'S will that human life end (i.e. End Times), and thereby have done a great disservice to humanity. They have taken the Name of the Deity to use for their own abhorrent ends. I try to live by the precept that I do at least one good thing (for someone else) every day. It's so important to make gracious contributions to what Carlos Casteneda's teacher Don Juan termed "the spirit of mankind."
By the way the hive analogy is relevant to the bee colony collapse parallel, while it also signifies the queen Bee (LEO) in the children's allegory of the 12 original tribes. It's an apt analogy for Leos.
We are watching the end of a long cycle and beginning to energize and envision what will come next. WE are part of the wave of change.
And one of the things that Bucky Fuller predicted some 30+ years ago is this:
(Paraphrasing) When the change happens (ergo, the birth of Aquarius) people will look around and say, "that was so easy! Why did it take us so long?"
The converse of course, is that our present meme of selfishness takes a lot more energy to sustain than a cooperative society would!
"mass psychology experiment"
In early 2003 Starhawk (http://www.starhawk.org) visited Australia, and I attended one of her talks. She claimed that the media had woven a magic spell around the population. She described herself as a witch, and said that it takes a witch to recognize a magic spell.
Magic or not, it certainly works. George Orwell had it right.
When will the old tapes of the '79 hostage parades come out? Good ol' Ayatollah Khomeini, calling for death to the great Satan? That's what people remember. They forget that Bill Casey and the Reagan team operated a shadow State Department, negotiating the hostage release. They forget Ollie North, in uniform, voice breaking, lying to the Senate committee. The previous posters have aptly outlined the state of the general American publics' ignorance.
If we go to war with Iran, one law, one stature, one piece of noxious legislation will be cited, used and quoted ultimately to justify and cover the collective butts of the people pushing the buttons.
It was used in Afghanistan.
Next for Iraq.
It is used to justify Predator strikes.
And almost every other horror contained within the last 10 years.
It is Public Law 107-40. The 'Defense Against Future Terrorism' act.
Stop waisting time playing their games, they control the talking points about the 'nuclear' issue, it is futile to waist time learning about 'nuclear refinment', 'enrichment levels' and related distractions.
'Enrichment levels' are the new 'WMDs'. Sound familiar?
When they want to murder Iran, they will. The law is on the books. Nothing is stopping them because no one is attacking the source of their justification. Get it?
Public Law 107-40.
Remember, the 'nuclear' thing is meant to get the left all distracted. The United States knows damn well what the contents of the NPT are, and it matters not.
But a corrupt law would be excepted only by corrupt men. Such as most all the men in our society, they being so corrupt as to believe they deserve to be rich.
I believe it was an Ancient Roman leader - was it Tacitus? - or one that did not really want to be the "emperor and caesar" warning his senate "you do not know what you ask" - for giving him unrestratined powers...
that said:
"THE MORE LAWS the greater the corruption".
THE USA - is proof or the classic demonstration of it:
a "nation of laws" BECAUSE it is a nation of the greatest Corruption. ..where people, under its system of capitalism exploiting....end up , like Albert Einstein said:
"as a society in which people work very, very hard to DEPRIVE each other".
and it is TRUE as Benjamin Franklin warned:
"should this nation fall, it will not be from foreign enemies or threats, real or imagined, it will fall because THE PEOPLE ARE CORRUPT" .
ergo -- "more laws" responding to MORE corruption.
and it is NOT because the people are "inherently" incorruptible - but as Franklin said:
"BECAUSE the people ARE corrupt".
Sioux Rose
APPEAR: Sound analysis but remember, waist is the portion of your body situated around the middle, while waste is to forfeit or throw away.
SECRECY -- WHY WE ARE LOCKED IN DARKNESS BY RICH NOBILITY
Without secrecy no one could, or would, enrich themselves upon our misery. For if you knew ahead of time that someone had you set for misery, surely you would not sit around waiting for it to happen.
For an act of submission is it to allow someone to lock you in darkness, a willingness to be vulnerable to their harm.
For perfect love forbids all trust, and if you have a mate that keeps things hidden from you, then in all probability the misery of divorce court is what they have in store for you.
Comes now the big banks and government to say that the FED must keep giving secret trillions from Treasury to High Finance, lest our economy be destroyed. Comes now our military to say that it must torture in secret, assonate our citizens in secret and butcher Afghan women and babies in the dead of night. Comes now all our legalized killers to tell us that they have a police state with secret prisons just perfect to save us.
Now its not that our rich ruling class in the beginning had no secrecy over us and government, not that the rich changed things to cause ours to be a secret government. For in 1776 all the slave owners decided to create a rich nobility dictatorship “Republic,” which for over 60 years gave the right to vote only to white Europeans of wealth and property. For since the beginning have the rich had the power to lock us in secrecy, and as evidenced by the FED giving away trillions in secret, never has such power to enslave been challenged even in secret.
Why the masses of Americans could think Iran is a threat to them is beyond me. It does say a lot about the masses, however. Reasoning with facts is not their strong point.
National Politicians and D.C. insiders for the most part and for most of our history have excited and sided with blood lust. They are the worst kind of killers. They have others do their dirty deed.
Written long ago by a wiser man than I. This is as true today as it was at the close of the 19th Century. Probably even more so.
"Who can sum up the horrors and woes accumulated in a single war?...War comes with its bloody hand into our very dwellings. It takes from ten thousand homes those who lived there in peace and comfort, held by the tender ties of family and kindred. It drags them away to die untended, of fever, or exposure, in infectious climes; or to be hacked, torn, and mangled in the fierce fight; to fall on the gory field, to rise no more, or to be borne away in awful agony, to noisome and horrid hospitals. The groans of the battlefield are echoed in sighs of bereavement from thousands of desolated hearths. There is a skeleton in every house, a vacant chair at every table. Returning, the soldier brings worse sorrow home, by the infection which he has caught, of camp-vices. The country is demoralized. The national mind is brought down, from the noble interchange of kind offices with another people, to wrath and revenge, and base pride, and the habit of measuring brute strength against brute strength, in battle. Treasures are expended, that would suffice to build ten thousand churches, hospitals, and universities, or rib and tie together a continent with rails of iron. If that treasure were sunk in the sea, it would be calamity enough; but it is put to worse use; for it is expended in cutting into the veins and arteries of human life, until the earth is deluged with a sea of blood."
Albert Pike
1809-1891
Sioux Rose
MINITRUE: Thank you for the poignant words/post.
Just as "Century of The Self" depicted, advertising owns a hypnotic power every dictator dreams of deploying. So were our MSM to show photos of everyday Iraqis coping with the aftermath of war, or brought US viewers into the living rooms of everyday Iranians, the poll numbers would dramatically alter.
It is more than disconcerting that the American public can be bamboozled into redundantly accepting the same falacious story line, canned jokes, and inordinately negative (to another land's people) outcomes... Pavlov's dogs were not trained so efficiently!
DEMOCRACY -- 51% SLAVE DRIVERS
metal:
“Cicero: Freedom is participation in power."
Above fantasy is based on the illusion that a perfect form of government does not exist, that a government of men needs the power to rule over society, and that everyone should have equal control of that power.
The root cause of such blind alley logic is the illusion that if a 51% majority of voters establish a government, the 49% minority will have freedom and equality. But we are all greedy men, not angels, and always will the majority enslave the minority in any democracy.
LIGHT
Freedom is participation in power for those
who lost the election and have no power.
Neocons see themselves as "tough" and "realistic." A blind faith in military power, above all else, guides them in their relationships with other nations. Persuaded that they have achieved full spectrum dominance in military affairs that enables them to operate with impunity, neocons and their followers pursue a foreign policy of full spectrum dumbness that will come to no good end.
Sioux Rose
JOE: Lots of these people claim fealty to a patriarchal god (Judeo/Christian, the favored brands)... yet given the evidence of their faith, can we not see their idolatry is based on worship of the oily muscle and war tools of Mars, god of war? Jesus would not advocate for the use of drones... or leaving millions homeless.
To prove the harm in it, that is why the rich are allowed to published all Bibles, totally corrupt all of Scripture and turn Christianity into the most perfect tool for protecting excessive wealth the world has ever know. Comes now the ancient Greek manuscripts of the Old and New Testament to force such darkness to give way:
PURPOSE OF HARM
“For when there is full faith and trust in the Creator, the
coming of the Son of our heavenly Father will be
established with conviction.
The logic being that planet earth is a wasteland of meaningless
fiction, and though the Creator is in submission, not by choice.
For he does it so that through his subjection, during that time,
full trust in him be established. For then the Creator will be set
free from being enslaved by such corruption, and we shall have
the liberty and glory of being the children of God.
For it is self-evident that, with all of us, the Creator laments
and suffers the same agony to this very day.”
Romans 8:19
YOU HAVE NO CHOICE
“For he who controls the future has predestined those chosen
to conform to the likeness of his Son, who was the first one
brought to life of all the brothers. And those he predestined he
surely calls, and those who are called, he surely makes righteous
with a grateful mind that can do no harm. And those who are
harmless, he most surely will glorify.” Romans 8:29
and Jesus would come to these "christians" and say, AGAIN, whether about the poor or "illegals" or "those barbaric afghans and taliban"....
"Whatsoever you DO to the LEAST of these, my Brethren, you do unto me".
and then - these american fascist christians will CRUCIFY jesus christ once MORE for saying something so "Anti-American"!!!!!
heck -- they'd demand he be strung up by his toes and fingers like a butterfly hanging from the ceiling while THEY watch him, avidly, being "extraordinary interrogated" to "tell us what YOUR connections are with the Taliban and their Friend CHAVEZ that loonie commie!!"
and DON'T think that this is BEYOND these american "christians" -- no , no no,
it is WELL within their BALL PARK of mentality and behavior and character. it's dripping and oozing THICKLY ALL OVER the history of the United States of America...
Excellent point, teddy.
Shades of Dostoyevsky from "The Bros Karamazov"?
Old Peculiar -- you're amazing. I was actually thinking of THAT very same Russian story. it was one of my earliest stories that my mom encouraged me to read when I was a kid in the philippines. and almost like some kind of "fate" - as a grownup - decades later, in New York, i actually became a pupil of a russian concert pianist -- from moscow - and part of our discussions on art, literature, music, philosophy, history, culture - WAS "the Brothers Karamazov". and now, here you are practically reading my own thoughts in writing that comment.
some people say it is a kind of "serendipity". a "meeting of moments"
amazing
NOTHING BUT DEPRESSION -- ONLY CONFUSION
Above poster and lady poster below, they draw our attention to only the painful effects of the problem, which only generates confusion and makes it harder to focus on the root cause and solution to the problem.
For the root cause is most everyone feeling they deserve more, and from birth to death they do take all they can take.
For the only solution is to realize that this day of life is more then anyone deserves, as it gives you a grateful giving mind that can do no harm.
they are "tough and realistic" except that the ones that have to REALIZE the BLOOD and DEATh and SElfDestruction in war are OTHERS.
it's always OTHERS that have to do the 'toughin up' and face the REAL consequences of wounds and death and starvation and suffering.
that's the kind of "tough and realistic" thing these neocones and warmongers have...cowards all of them...hiding behind their protected confines and boardrooms surrounded by "private contractor security" !
but if these were thrown in the den among the al qaeda or taliban in afghanistan - they'd be wetting themselves at the mere thought of it and crying like women to be spared the TORTURE they themselves promote.
It's good that we have voices that speak out against the demonization of Iran. I wish that we had been speaking out loudly on this years and years ago BEFORE the neocons and their neolib friends started ratcheting up the propaganda so that folk automatically see Iran and it's president with a negative bias.
That's why every time I see something like this I loudly call out for us to STOP THE DEMONIZATION of Venezuela and Hugo Chavez *now*! COUNTER any propaganda against Bolivia and Morales *now*.
Iran is the next target for the Military Industrial Fossil Fuel Complex. But they are already setting the stage for Venezuela and Bolivia as the enemy that threatens us after they've gotten control of Iran's oil.
As far as Venezuela is concerned.....so long as the trend is according to the "defiant against the USA" stance - whether it is with Chavez or his successors -
i doubt that the USA , regardless of its forces' proximity and base in Colombia - will succeed - or even come close to openly invading or attacking Venezuela.
the BLOC of nations in south america quite opposed to MORE or a return to "american dominance" is simply too far in its proceedings...and they HAVE learned to deal with their regional differences as neighbors to subsume those under the BIGGER and most important principles and strategies of having SOUTH AMERICA as a RIVAL bloc TO the USA itself...and of course for the coming "multipolar world"
that will have centers of power of their own:
China and its neighboring asian countries.
India and its own circle,
the Middle east
Europe,
USA/north america.
but DEFINITELY - as far as these countries AND THEIR PEOPLE are concerned - they will NOT PUT UP with a return to the days and generations of unchallenged American Domination of THEIR lands.
THAT MEANS _- an ATTACK "on one - is an attack on ALL"
they are going and already are playing the game NATO itself started.
in fact, Brazil ALREADY is on the move to enlarge and modernize its army - Lula having said to increase its size to 500,000 personnel...
THAT alone, is a tacit WARNING to the USA - NOT to "attack a member of MERCOSUR" of which brazil and venezuela are leading members.
they are not saying things openly YET -- but the WRITING is on the wall of the eventual demise of American intransigence and belligerance towards other nations..thinking that it will and can and should NEVER be challenged or disobeyed.
those days are GONE, GONE GONE. no matter how much the USA thrashes and screams and tries to "rope" countries to its will and the MORE it wages WARS the MORE it will sink itself..not LEAST in the TOLERANCE of nations to even PRETEND to cooperate with it.
but then -- the USA has long been running not just on "interest" but on "capital" it has LONG SPENT! on the goodwill and trust and respect of nations....not to mention being a BANKRUPT EMPIRE...whose only real "products" Now are bombs and bullets and killing soldiers -- based on a DEBT economy. ..and not too many more are "buying" its pretensions of "leadership".
it simply has NO credibility, no matter how loudly Clinton, Obama, and american pundits scream AT the world to "obey".
they are saying:
"no, we won't".
the USA is basically , even as the "supremo" military empire - threatening countries left and right , up and down, and trying to coerce them thinking it can continue to FOOL their leaders with its brinkmanship, already on the way to IRRELEVANCE as the "global leader".
NO ONE believes the USA. they KNOW that if they WITHHOLD their agreements on its WARS - the USA will eventually be left STRANDED and sinking in its own self-made Quicksand....
the BETTER to allow THEM to go on as they prefer -- without USA hectoring and "leadership" that has proven itself to be Disastrous, exploitative, divisive and Untrustworthy. ...and indeed, a THREAT to civilization and the planet.
The United States desperately needs to reinstitute the military draft. Not only would the terrible burden of redeployments on the current service people be eased, but also the continual warmongering would eventually cease. As long as members of Congress and the wealthy never find their own children serving on the front lines, the government thinks it can get away with its global games of strategic war-making without any personal consequences.
Massive protests against the Vietnam war on college campuses all over the country, eventually forced America to pull out of that conflict. And many of those protesters were from well-off homes.
The added benefit of the draft is that even if the mainstream media ignore reporting on the war and the protests, it's hard to miss the fact that your own kid is going to be drafted.
Now this pacifist is reading carefully your post, reasoning your logic to its ultimate conclusion and determined to discover if yours is the better of two evils.
OPPOSING FACTS
(1) Wars are being allowed to reach their ultimate conclusion
to establish, “Do not use force to overcome evil. If they
strike you on the right cheek, turn to them the other also.”
(2) The rich have shipped all our wealth out of the country
and must now turn our Empire into a police state, the
military draft will soon be reinstated and we really have
no choice.
Totally bogus. The protests started in 1964, and where strong from 65 to 70. We didn't LEAVE; we were DEFEATED in 1975!!
Correct.
there is a current "history revisionism" going on in the US punditry and "scholarship" ..somehow finding a way to show that the USA didn't REALLY get beaten and kicked out.....ooopps.
funny though -- I know 2 vietnamese living in the USA - as part of the consequent "refugees" that the USA had to account for to show "face" to the world for what it had done in vietnam - and YET - despite being immigrants and "americans" now - the 2 ladies were QUITE open , when I "congratulated" them a few days ago about the important Anniversary in Vietnam that was unfolded the past week - to commemorate , in fact, the kicking out of americans.
the words the ladies used to me were:
"yes, thank you, we are quite proud of it, it was our TRUE INDEPENDENCE from foreign interference".
north or south, outside of the US lackeys, vietnamese apparently shared the SAME sentiments - they were indeed fighting to be UNITED and be FREE of foreign interference. and their recent anniversary was in fact unfolded as a reminder of their sending a foreign power OUT --
and guess which one that was? the USA.
DEFEATED.
This "loose lip" problem is because we have idiots for politicians who are still adolescent boys in grownup male bodies, that never grew up emotionally or mentally, and quite frankly, I doubt ever shall.
Or in the case of Harman, an adolescent GIRL in a grownup male body.
An important point to ponder is this: Marcy Winograd ran against Jane four years ago and lost. Jane was championed by her fellow feminine colleagues in the senate, Feinstein and Boxer AGAINST a non-corporate, truly progressive candidate.
Message: The Boys' Club (congress) is strong and not to be fucked with...even if you happen to be a woman!
An attack on Iran and the subsequent closing off the Straits of Hormuz by Tehran would be a real shot in the foot for the US/Israel. Think of what oil at $200/bbl would do to the ongoing Euro crisis -- the EU would fall apart and soon the US as well.