Memo to Obama: How to Convert to A Peace Economy
You have been elected by the first anti-war constituency since 1952, when Eisenhower was elected after promising to end the Korean War. But ending a war isn't the same as bringing peace. America has been on a war footing since the day after Pearl Harbor, sixty-seven years ago. We spend more on our military than the next sixteen countries combined. If you have a vision of change that goes to the heart of this country's deep problems, ending our dependence on war is far more important than ending our dependency on foreign oil.
The most immediate changes are economic. Unless it can make as much money as war, peace doesn't stand a chance. Since aerospace and military technologies remain the United States' most destructive export, fostering wars around the world, what steps can we take to reverse that trend and build a peace-based economy?
1. Scale out arms dealing and make it illegal by the year 2020.
2. Write into every defense contract a requirement for a peacetime project.
3. Subsidize conversion of military companies to peaceful uses with tax incentives and direct funding.
4. Convert military bases to housing for the poor.
5. Phase out all foreign military bases.
6. Require military personnel to devote part of their time to rebuilding infrastructure.
7. Call a moratorium on future weapons technologies.
8. Reduce armaments like destroyers and submarines that have no use against terrorism and were intended to defend against a superpower enemy that no longer exists.
9. Fully fund social services and take the balance out of the defense and homeland security budgets.
These are just the beginning. We don't lack creativity in coping with change. Without a conversion of our present war economy to a peace economy, the high profits of the military-industrial complex ensures that it will never end.
Do these nine steps seem unrealistic or fanciful? In various ways other countries have adopted similar measures. The former Soviet army is occupied with farming and other peaceful work, for example. But comparisons are rather pointless, since only the United States is burdened with such a massive reliance on defense spending. Ultimately, empire follows the dollar. As a society we want peace, and we want to be seen as a nation that promotes peace. For either ideal to come true, you as president must back up your vision of change with economic reality. So far, that hasn't happened under any of your predecessors. All hopes are pinned on you.
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Gag Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and all other militarist right wing kooks who think that invading innocent countries who haven't done a thing to us is somehow an act of supreme patriotism and who brainwash multitudes of mind numbed drones into believing the same.
Begin to teach REAL HISTORY in the schools and not the dumbed down propagandist crap that we hand our kids now. Let them know the details of how we turned into a military industrial complex, how the Robber Barons of the last century bought and influenced the government, and how we have covertly invaded third world countries, raped them of their resources, and killed their elected leaders so our drones could be put in their place for the benefit of multinational corporations.
Deepak Chopra is recognizing the spiritual and practical aspects of changing a war economy to a peace economy. Good for him. "Swords into plowshares" is a beautiful idea in so many ways.
I would like to close every base and military hardware plant immediately and convert to peaceful uses, but we do not have the support to do so. Our "leaders" will not initiate such a thing, and ordinary people will not vote themselves into unemployment and poverty. The changeover will never happen if the price is to throw defense workers out on the street with no paycheck. Those who don't believe me should spend some time in isolated working class communities that depend on an army base or the munitions industry. The people there have been walled into a bad situation.
Many people whose incomes do not depend directly on militarism still believe that a huge military is a basic necessity for safety. Try debating this with neighbors and you will see how deep this idea runs.
I welcome every celebrity who pushes practical and spiritual approaches to peace. It is some free publicity to counter the enormous brain washing we get about the loveliness of militarism.
Joe
I agree with your basic premise of closing the bases we have around the world. What absolute arrogance to think that we somehow have some sort of "divine right" to place our military in almost every country in the world. Who the hell do we think we are???
On the other hand, I would like to ask this. You said "close EVERY base". Does that include closing domestic bases which should be necessary for DEFENSIVE ACTION ONLY against an aggressor? I think that history has shown us that there are bad guys out there and that we should be at least able to defend ourselves. Do you agree with this? If not, then what would you see as the option against those who would do us harm?
I really like your last paragraph -- "the loveliness of militarism". That really sums up things in a nutshell, doesn't it. What a shame that peace and friendship don't have that same appeal worldwide.
The shank of all problems with war is that it is profitable and concentrates power. As such it is the preferred way to maintain the status quo.
There will never be any legislation to come out of congress to change any of this.
The people have ceded their power to corporations and enough are still willing to send their children to fight. But...
Government and business must be separated.
The corporation must be stripped of personhood and time-limited.
Media must be freed from corporate control. And...
Only the people can do it.
The US government, who is responsible for supporting and arming, including with 400 nuclear warheads, the genocidal state of Israel (really Occupied Palestine), is the number one problem here.
The number two problem is YOU, who do nothing about it.
That same US government allows sites like this plastic progressive sandbox to operate relatively unfettered.
Why?
Because they view it as a useful SAFTY VALVE: they know if you piddle away your time posting and hand-wringing here that you won't march on Washington and throw their asses out.
As always, the ball is in YOUR court--and I don't see you doing squat.
Serena, I enjoyed your exchange and stands, besos! You got it right: "And, more to the point, you folks don't desreve it to happen", and the reason from another person: "the deadened capacity for outrage". You are not here to make friends, you just made one, me.
Thanks, corazon (nice posting name, BTW).
Listen with the heart
A tree, in the forest fell...
If no one heard it, did it really fall?
A soldier fell in a foreign land...
If no one heard it, did he really fall?
A mother grieves for a child lost-
if no one hears her, is it worth the cost?
Million children, voiceless, die of hunger-
the powers are creating "AWE" and thunder.
The greater the thunder, the might,
the deeper the silence, the what's right.
Is it human to err and justify,
or admit, repent and rectify?
A tree, in the forest fell...
A parable, not about the knowledge,
but the conscience, able to acknowledge.
Acknowledge darkness, turn to light,
admit to weakness, gather might,
listen with the heart and resonate
with billion other hearts in "AWE"
for is not in vain...
listen...something fell again.
Corazon, Oct. 5, 2004
miencanto at hotmail dot com
Nice.
THanks for posting.
Dear Dr. Chopra:
You say "As a society we want peace". I think money would seem to overide even our desire for peace. We are basically a greedy society. We have been educated that way and even our religious beliefs tell us that wealth is a sign of God's way of rewarding us for our faith in him. And so I think that this dependence on war will be difficult to end. We must look somewhere else. We must look at what is more satisfying to human nature than money. I think the answer is inner happiness which will not be obtained through riches, but through a new way of looking at God and at ourselves. A new educational system will be a good start. That's what we as a society should focus on if we want to end war and create a peace economy.
Gerry M.
So here, on CD, even an "atheist" tries to defend this bunkum artist's bid for a piece of that sanctity pie? This New Age piffle produced by con artists and rich snake oil salesmen is the death of the "left." There is not a single shred of evidence for the guy's Ayurvedic medical fraud - check out S. Singh and E. Ernst's devastation of that rip-off, and other placebo wastes of trillions, in "Trick or Treatment," a brave book that will stop you in your tracks if you have any hankerings after the acupuncture, chiropractic, homeopathy, or herbalist dodges of common sense - oh, damn, did I just list the pet cults of the fake CD "spiritual" left? You are believing and promoting nonsense, folks.
I suggest you take a coffee enema, 3 carrot/apple juices and some chamomile tea before bed, then write again in the morning.
You would be well-advised to take your own advice.
The Bush Era Has Been an Eight-Year-Long Madoff-Style Ripoff
By Frank Rich, The New York Times
Posted on January 12, 2009, Printed on January 12, 2009
http://www.alternet.org/story/119041/
Three days after the world learned that $50 billion may have disappeared in Bernie Madoff’s Ponzi scheme, The Times led its front page of Dec. 14 with the revelation of another $50 billion rip-off. This time the vanished loot belonged to American taxpayers. That was our collective contribution to the $117 billion spent (as of mid-2008) on Iraq reconstruction — a sinkhole of corruption, cronyism, incompetence and outright theft that epitomized Bush management at home and abroad.
Sioux Rose
BS BUSTER: There's a lot more than that, but they let us know in increments, how much disappeared... of course any FBI agent interested in America, rather than loyalty to a specific corrupt administration, might puruse the offshore accounts of such entities as Halliburton, Bechtel, Blackwater, etc.
This is the same office where the Bush apparatchik John Yoo produced his infamous memos justifying torture. Johnsen is a fierce critic of such constitutional abuses. In articles for Slate last year, she wondered “where is the outrage, the public outcry” over a government that has acted lawlessly and that “does not respect the legal and moral bounds of human decency.” She asked, “How do we save our country’s honor, and our own?”
The last is not a rhetorical question. While our new president indeed must move on and address the urgent crises that cannot wait, Bush administration malfeasance can’t be merely forgotten or finessed. A new Justice Department must enforce the law; Congress must press outstanding subpoenas to smoke out potential criminal activity; every legal effort must be made to stop what seems like a wholesale effort by the outgoing White House to withhold, hide and possibly destroy huge chunks of its electronic and paper trail. As Johnsen wrote last March, we must also “resist Bush administration efforts to hide evidence of its wrongdoing through demands for retroactive immunity, assertions of state privilege, and implausible claims that openness will empower terrorists.”
As if to anticipate the current debate, she added that “we must avoid any temptation simply to move on,” because the national honor cannot be restored “without full disclosure.” She was talking about America regaining its international reputation in the aftermath of our government’s descent into the dark side of torture and “extraordinary rendition.” But I would add that we need full disclosure of the more prosaic governmental corruption of the Bush years, too, for pragmatic domestic reasons. To make the policy decisions ahead of us in the economic meltdown, we must know what went wrong along the way in the executive and legislative branches alike.
As the financial historian Ron Chernow wrote in the Times last week, we could desperately use a Ferdinand Pecora, the investigator who illuminated the history of the 1929 meltdown in Senate hearings on the eve of the New Deal. The terrain to be mined would include not just the usual Wall Street suspects and their Congressional and regulatory enablers but also the Department of Housing and Urban Development, a strangely neglected ground zero in the foreclosure meltdown. The department’s secretary, Alphonso Jackson, resigned in March amid still-unresolved investigations over whether he enriched himself and friends with government contracts.
The tentative and amorphous $800 billion stimulus proposed by Obama last week sounds like a lot, but it’s a drop in the bucket when set against the damage it must help counteract: more than $10 trillion in new debt and new obligations piled up by the Bush administration in eight years, as calculated by the economists Linda J. Bilmes and Joseph E. Stiglitz in the current Harper’s Magazine.
If Bernie Madoff, at least, can still revive what remains of our deadened capacity for outrage, so can those who pulled off Washington’s Ponzi schemes. The more we learn about where all the bodies and billions were buried on our path to ruin, the easier it may be for our new president to make the case for a bold, whatever-it-takes New Deal.
Those are all fantastic points. Myself having been employed in multiple technical fields... I cannot stress how much I extremely agree with step #7.
Should we fail to accomplish step #7 worldwide, a moratorium on all future weapons technologies, (even the non lethal ones, trust me!) I'm afraid that we will erase everything that we have achieved as walking talking bipeds over the past 100,000 years.
Remember, during the Cold War alone, their where at least 12 clearly documented 'near accidental launches' of nuclear weapons. We are very dumb lucky to be here now.
I have two further suggestions to add to Mr Chopras' list.
10. Revamp the voting structure of the UN.
11. Prosecute the US Military Junta who seized power by toppling our democratic government in 1963.
Please refer to the book by James W. Douglass, "JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters",
and additionally refer to Shane O'Sullivans work in the film "RFK Must Die"
http://www.rfkmustdie.com/
and his epilogue showing the audio evidence showing 10-14 shots were fired (Sirhans gun held 8)
http://rfkmustdie.blip.tv/file/1362352/
Shane O'Sullivan interviewed on Irish television (sometimes you have to step outside the box to see back in)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjGupfm9t5E
And there was another interview and stories on the BBC (and elsewhere) which they HAVE NOW SCRUBBED, leaving empty links and empty refutations. Do not expect the MSM to pick this one up folks... the Junta is powerless without controlling public perception, they OWN the media of course.
Do NOT refer to Robert Blair Kaiser's book by the same name (RFK Must Die)... it is a false flag. Additionally, Robert Blair Kaiser is a long time writer for Time Magazine, that alone should raise some red flags for the MSM skeptics crowd.
and for fixing the economy please refer to Huey Long's speeches "Share the Wealth", "Barbecue Speech", and "Every Man a King", please print and save, make your archives while it's still freely available!
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/hueyplongshare.htm
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/hueyplongking.htm
And don't believe the 'demogogue' labels and scare tactics which the US Military Industrial Junta uses to scapegoat and tarnish Huey Long's considerable progressive achievements. You can read his bio on wikipedia to undertand the full context surrounding the man and his policies as Louisiana Governor 1928 to 1932 and US senator from 1932 to 1935.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huey_Long
May we find common cause, and every man walk in peace.
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1963 & 1968- Dallas and Los Angeles Coup d'État by the US Military Industrial Junta completed according to modern examination of old evidence
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.", Albert Einstein. (Ed note: WHITE PHOSPHOROUS, DENSE METAL SUPER WEAPONS, NUCLEAR STICK UP, MISSILE DEFENSE, AND PROPAGANDA!!!!!)
In the ''Imperial US P residency'', the Presidente' is THE 'mover & shaker'; just look at what the great presidents like Lincoln, FDR, TR and JFK accomplished - - as opposed to the bad ones like, the present one [a.k.a ''chimpy''], Hoover et al
"Chimpy" makes Hoover look good.
The first sentence of this article states: "Eisenhower was elected after promising to end the Korean War." Yet here we are more than 50 years after the end of that war and the US is still in Korea. Why are we still there? How much money has been spent on post-war Korea for the last 50 years? Who cares if South Korea becomes communist? China is communist and we love them to death! All of our jobs and purchasing power is sent to China buying the crap they make for us. Communism is so cold war, so passe, so yesterday. Does anyone think communism is a threat?
No president since Eisenhower has gotten the US out of Korea. Now we have the first post-Bush president that is going to perpetuate the post-Iraq occupation and keep us in Iraq forever. Bush created the war but the real crime is all the following presidents, including Obama, are going to commit a worse crime by perpetuating this illegal occupation.
[ ''As I understand it, the US economy was pulled out of the Great Depression by the profits from WWII.'' - - '' If WWII and all these other wars were fighting for peace as their goal and not asset accummulation then it is time to put your actions where your retoric is and shift over to a peace economy.'' ]
This absurd [ and i-n-s-a-n-e ] arguement, recently touted in the media, by neo-cons trying to discredit FDR's accomplishments, implies that WAR IS GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY !!
If so, why not start another BIG WAR to get us out the present economic mess ?? All the unemployed will be ''employed'' by the armed forces and manufacturing will go through the roof to keep up with all kinds of war demands - -
Or still better, expand all the unemployment agencies to the extent that ALL the unemployed are employed in these unemployment agencies ! joblessness solved !!!
Check your history books. The Korean war has NOT ended. There was no peace treaty and so the two Koreas remain at war with each other.
There was never war between the 2 Koreas. It is officially a "police action".
I think you are mistaken. It may technically be a "police action" between the USA and North Korea, but it is a war between North Korea and South Korea. See: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2774931.stm
OK, agreed. I did not consider the civil dispute before I penned my hasty response.
But the 1953 armistice did put an end to the civil dispute between the 2 Koreas.
grazing tribes are the future...whether accomplished proactively, or following collapse...the questions are: will lazy, selfish or violent humans continue to insist upon living symbiotically with industrial products and electrical devices, employing technology to prevent such a proactive transformation, and will the Earth be so damged and toxified by the time we attempt such a change that insufficient lifeforms for human survival remain?
the replanting of the planet is primary...
Astonishing given Depeek engages in substandart pay for his many employees working at his resorts around the world. He might want to take a closer look at himself before lecturing anyone else. Holding a public niche in the spirituality for sale movement has made him a wealthy man.
If you have hard evidence of Mr. Chopra paying substandard wages fro his employees, I would be interested in seeing it.
Yes, but he is an "enlightened" and "spiritual" being.
As I understand it, the US economy was pulled out of the Great Depression by the profits from WWII. So, how long has it been? Seems we could have transferred to a peacetime economy by now. Must be something standing in the way. In the movie "JFK" Brown and Root (now B&R/Hallibutron/Cheney) was involved in buying silence about the assassination of JFK, if I got that right. General Electric, General Dynamics, and other multinationals, now rulers of the world, profited. Now look how much for example Hallibutron and Brown and Root have profited off this last war of aggression and look at the mess our economy is in from all the multinational banksters and corporations looting our treasury. It a time to change it or lose it, if it is not already too late. If WWII and all these other wars were fighting for peace as their goal and not asset accummulation then it is time to put your actions where your retoric is and shift over to a peace economy.
Dr. Chopra's sentiments are inspiring.
But for profound change to occur it will have to be a from the bottom revolution!
Soon . . .
Another step:
Never elect conservatives. They hate government and thus make lousy governors.
Conservative's usual reasons for governing is to get rich anyway they can if it means lying, cheating, fearmongering, race-baiting, commie-baiting, spying, prohibiting, impoverishing, imprisoning, stealing, ridiculing, demonizing, polluting and mass murder.
Empire is unsustainable. It has made us rich and now it will destroy us.
No, the empire has made us poor and now it will continue destroying what's left of us all.
"All hopes are pinned on you."
I appreciate the sentiment and thinking behind Mr. Chopra's "to-do" list, although I am not sure ending war from the top down is the best, or most efficacious, way to bring about lasting peace. It is a start, but my inner cynic understands acts of war to be the logical outcome of the evolution of human social orders that have brought us neo-capitalism and the stubborn reliance on a belief that kingly, mythologized, figures can bring about the peace we desperately require if we are to survive on this planet as a conscious order of matter that at least appears to have some control over its future or lack of future.
That is why the above quote scares me. It belies and contradicts every urge that democratic society is based on. If we do, in fact, pin all of our hopes on one man, on some pre-mythologized fate as the One Who Bears the lion's share of responsibility for creating a peaceful future in this country and beyond, then we also buy into a similar kind of Unitary Executive that Bush has illegally put in place and that there has been far to little talk in the new administration about dismantling.
This, in fact, might be the greatest act that Obama could accomplish: return or re-establish the balance of powers and reject the Executive as an Imperial overlord that has two adjuncts and servants in the Legislative and Judicial. Give the power back to the people to a degree unparalleled in US history. Make and/or remake this into the visionary democratic republic that was the collective dream of the species and has influenced the natural evolutionary push toward the actualization of equality for peoples all over the globe.
There is an aspect of religiosity in investing so much power in one man who's job, as it is defined and intended by The Founders, however imperfectly rendered, is to be a facilitator of the people's will and the greater good. The power to bring about a truly peaceful future is born and grows among the people. They are its midwife and nursemaid. The president's job is to facilitate the people’s innate and growing wisdom in these matters, as humans live together in a more and more connected global community. If the people give their power away to elected leaders, they demote themselves to the position of vassals, slaves, serfs and indentured war fodder.
I believe the huge unprecedented outpouring into the streets all over the globe prior to the Iraq war demonstrates this growing wisdom of the masses. No one human can be assumed to be bearer of a power to transform that urge into a reality. He or she must be responsible as a servant of the people to transfer the tools of the facilitation of that demand for peace to the people. Otherwise we are all serfs in those leaders' and our own eyes; they are just Kings and Queens dressed in the faux democratic Emperor’s New Clothes while they continue the primitive and ultimately destructive Imperial wars for capital.
Very right. Pinning hopes on one earthly man has a lot to do with the prevailing concept of deity. People talk about giving their lives to a higher power, but doing so is not an intellectual decision nor is it an emotional process. It usually takes many years to reach God.
So people look to the prez as an all-powerful saviour—especially when things aren't going so well. In doing so, they're able to get the monkeys off their own backs, go on with their lives as usual, and wait for someone else to fix things. And disappointment results when things don't get fixed.
The world is the sum of all the individuals in it. Everyone has his hat in the ring in the form of his/her own consciousness. In some ways, people have to take the power back for themselves, take responsibility for their own lives. Government policy, of course, can either aid that process for people or hinder it.
Knowledge is power. But in most places, education does not give people the knowledge they need to live happy, healthy lives. Our political leadership is the product of that same inadequate education.
Thank you, Deepak, for at least putting your pen, heart and mind to creating these nine steps. I wholeheartedly agree with them. To those who added more steps, kudos. To those who placed the responsibility square on the shoulders of the US citizenry, another round of applause. Obama, Federal, State and Local governments all need us to impliment any change....and they need our imput and dare I say it...work to make the change.
For those who say it's idealistic rhetoric that will never happen....well, changing habits/addictions can be hard for some of us, but hopefully we will "get it" and become a more peace oreinted species before we become extinct because of our inability to change.
The author's first step is nothing more than procrastination. The rest of the steps while great are going nowhere until we stop procrasinating by putting very distant deadlines. The time to get this all done is NOW, not in 2020 ! 2020 will be dealt with later.
Right - we know what happened on the climate change front. While the majority of the signatories to the Kyoto Protocol are somewhat on track to meet their targets, USA never signed on. Canada has just about decided to jump ship and join the USofA, whereas, amazingly, Australia ratified it about a year ago.
That said, I don't know what exactly Deepak Chopra means by 'scale out' arms dealing. Does he mean 'scale down'? Or may be 'phase out'? If so, that is something that should be done right now - but, like Kyoto, it cannot be done in isolation. Because if you are not going to export some weapon, the British would be only happy to step in, and retain their position as the world's largest arms exporter - they had long been the second largest for a while. One issue that doesn't make it to the evening news is behind-the-scenes American pressure in restricting Israeli arms exports to China. I read somewhere that Israel is (was?) second only to Russia in terms of weapons exports to China. My point is that arms exports control must be done in a coordinated manner for it to be effective.
Oh, while on the subject, let's not beat just the good old USofA - there is plenty of company for all the sins and evils that the US gets blamed for. In fact, US may be a convenient cover for a host of other countries to get away with similar behavior.
Highintel: Can we do better?
Hey, do you remember Iran-Contra? It was Israel who was making the weapons to be sold to Iran for the United States....I think Israel even sold them missles.
Then there were the Kosovars, Do you know who was allowed to arm the Kosovars for the U.S. and NATO ? Iran was arming them and the United States allowed it.
You can not have a "Never Ending War" if your enemies do not have weapons. What do you think Blackwater was doing? Blackwater was shipping illegal weapons to Iraq and then selling them on the "Black Market" Guess who still has contracts with the U.S Government? Years ago, selling weapons to the enemy would have been considered "Treason". But then, this is a "Made Up War".
Israel makes a lot of weapons. After the 2002 failed coup in Venezuela, a number of stockpiles of Israeli weapons were tracked down.
And every time there has been a coup attempt since then the majority of the weapons discovered have been of Israeli fabrication.
Israelis also provides training and technical assistance in Colombia to the paramilitary groups as well as to subversive groups in Venezuela.
Putin has Israels number and knows exactly what they are up to. In The fiasco in Georgia the Russians not only found stockpiles of Israeli weapons, but they learned that Israeli advisors were training the Georgian Military and in fact tagging along with them when they tried to use Israeli tactics to cleanse south Ossetia.
Putins response?
Russia announced it would sell the SA 300 air defense system to iran. A purely defensive weapons system , Israel immediately claimed that Iran would use such a system to destroy Israel.
Now how could a DEFENSIVE missile system , designed to shoot down incoming aircraft be used to destroy israel?
Ti Israel...Israel has the right to attack Iran at will and the SA 300 system would make such air strikes very costly.
Israel sent a team to Russia to demand the Russians not go through with the weapons sale and are now scrambling to disassociate themselves from the Georgian Government.
The lesson?
If you want peace in the Middle East DISARMING everyone save Israel is NOT the way to go about it.
I can remember back in the 1970s when there were lofty goals on reducing global warming by 2000. After 1985, I heard more goals for 2010 more than 2000. Today, I'm hearing 2030, 2050, and even 2100. All this despite the fact that the damage has been kicking in for the past two decades.
I remember Ronald Reagan back in 1980 when he spoke against unilateral disarmament. At the time, I never anticipated that he'd been shipping weapons to Iran let alone both parties shipping to Israel like crazy especially after 9/11. I stopped trusting the Republicans after I figured out the hypocrites they were although I would sometimes angrily vote for them because the Democrats wouldn't stand up to them thereby making it hopeless to override their tyranny. The conservatives are hypocrites for critizing the left on unilateral disarmament even as the far right continues to do so. The left is getting too hypocritical for voting for cowards pretending to be liberal Democrats only to watch them dance with the Republicans. The US doesn't favor the GOP over the Democrats on foreign policy because we love "free trade" and wars. The US favors the GOP over the Democrats on foreign policy because the Democrats REFUSE to be any different on the matter.
I'm well aware that the USA isn't alone. I've heard lots of similar anti-environmental policies going on throughout Europe as well. Trying to race to the bottom to be one of the world's largest arms exporters is just plain sick.
10. Lower the world's population through education and birth control so they don't have to go to war over diminishing resources.
11. Spread education, communications and self government with Global Online Democracy, direct and decentalized.
12. End oligarchy, Mammon's dictatorship, by capping wealth/power direct democratically.
ezeflyer's three points should be one, two and three on the list on how to convert to a peace economy.
Listing steps for the throne warmer to take to fix the problems created by the elite establishment that selected him is the biggest waste of time and should be a crime. As well-intentioned as Deepak Chopra may be, we have to face the power relations and realize that the USA is only addicted to war and oil because those have the magical characteristics enabling the elite to enslave the people. This author is suggesting that the people continue to pretend that elite rule is going to work. It doesn't work. It can't work. The O'Bama chimp will preside over four/eight years of business as usual. The people have to make the rules in order to be free. Isn't this common sense? The rest of the world considers it common sense. This is why everyone stopped following the USA down the road to war/oil addiction. Doesn't the USA stand alone with its military expenditure? Doesn't the USA stand alone with its energy gluttony? Doesn't the USA stand alone with its privatize-everything fanaticism? Doesn't the USA stand alone with its imperial hubris? Doesn't the USA stand alone with its sellout of industrial/economic autonomy to global trade? Doesn't the USA stand alone in its public debt? In this world, the USA stands alone with its business as usual, and it is O'Bama's now to maintain. Everyone is to continue embracing the illusions dispensed by the elites, and enjoy the spoils of the war/oil economy. But it's time to cancel that subscription. It's time to get the elite monkeys off our backs, people.
The USA may be the leader of the pack for all that you mention...
But by no means do they stand alone in any of the categories...
France, brittain, Israel, and many other nation/states are complicit or competing for their stake in the resource wars...
Good suggestions.
Obama will do nothing.
If he even CONSIDERED going against his owners, Big Guns and Big Oil, he would be killed--and the crime pinned on some KKK member.
Another Reichstag Fire
or Colosio Assassination.
I love your spunk and wit serena; if it wasn't always holding onto the whip handle of cynicism you could really help US accomplish something.
Accomplish WHAT?
I don't live in the US. And it is not MY responsibility to pull YOUR chestnuts out of the fire.
In fact, as a Native American, whose people--20 million of them--were victims of genocide to form and maintain the "manifest destiny" of the US, I believe that gringos should pack their bags and get off Turtle Island.
In addition, when I wrote ON THIS SITE a couple of years back a blueprint for revolution in the US that was very simple and would WORK (and was not taken from Che Guevara's GUERRA DE GUERRILLAS), other posters defecated in their drawers and whined and complained that a few people could be killed if the plan were implemented.
And you criticize ME for being cynical.
I recognize laziness, hypocrisy, self-promotion and cowardice when I see it.
Folks who were deliberately obtuse and committedly ignorant of the US political system nearly fractured their arms patting themselves on the back for voting for a mulatto who was served up to you by the same folks that served up Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. And now they are whining that they were duped.
Duped, my ass. No one is as blind as he who chooses not to see.
While I have to side with the Buddhists that there is always suffering, I think you could help US accomplish a life on Turtle Island with a lot less of it and a lot more of the pleasure and prosperity of basic human recognition. You don't live in the US, but the US could definitely use help from friendship right now. As I said I love your spunk which I'll modify to strong verve, as I know that and your wit, as well as human perception, could help crack open many encrusted hearts and unlock many caged minds. As Black Elk stated "the Central Mountain is everywhere", and as it appears your hand is fitted for the whip handle, I would have it be that you stand on the Mountain and have at least as much humor for humanities folly you so well define as there is cynicism at your cracking "wits" end.
Much peace to you and all of yours...
Puck,
The bottom line is this:
I spent 48 years in the US, and in the words of Bob Dylan,
"You just kind of wasted my precious time".
If folks in the US want to make friends with people of other cultures and countries, they need to BE a friend--and not a bully.
Given the repressive fascist model of the US, when Ward Churchill called gringos "Little Eichmanns", I believe he was definitely onto something--the truth.
And for that the repressive fascist gringo educational system slammed his scalp, with head attached, on a platter.
All education is political, after all.
Stupid gringo children! Little Nazis! White scum!
Working on your "final solution", Serena?
"If folks in the US want to make friends with people of other cultures and countries, they need to BE a friend--and not a bully."
How ironic.
You would be friends with a Nazi gringo?
troll rant ignored
Serena?
We are all G*d's children.
Your racism is disgusting.
I can't believe I complimented you on your pride in your heritage.
I didn't realize your were a follower of racial supremacy.
serena, after the previous post I realized it's wonderful for you to consider yourself some form of American. I don't think there has been a true United States of America yet and that a true USA is the destiny to be manifest on this continent in order to spawn a humanly realized global Central Mountain.
And on deeper looking I do see some humor in your words...the "Chestnut" and "defecation" lines are actually a hoot. And considering that the gringos number one industrial product right now is bombed children...I'm wondering if you'd re-print your revolution manifesto - "it's a good day to die"...eh?
Native brother (Mohawk) Robbie Robertson on his album, Music for the Native Americans, has a song called
It's a Good Day to Die
The general rode for sixteen days
The horses were thirsty and tired
On the trail of a renegade chief
One he'd come to admire
The soldiers hid behind the hills
That surrounded the village
And he rode down to warn the chief
They'd come to conquer and pillage
Lay down your arms
Lay down your spear
The chief's eyes were sad
But showed no sign of fear
(chorus)
It is a good day to die
Oh my children dry your eyes
It is a good day to die
He spoke of the days before the white man came
With his guns and whisky
He told of a time a long time ago
Before what you call history
The general couldn't believe his words
Nor the look on his face
But he knew these people would rather die
Then have to live in this disgrace
What law have I broken
What wrong have I done
That makes you want to bury me
Upon this trail of blood
(chorus)
We cared for the land and the land cared for us
And that's the way it's always been
Never asked for more never asked too much
And now you tell me this is the end
I laid down my weapon
Laid down my bow
Now you want to drive me out
With no place left to go
(chorus)
And he turned to his people and said dry your eyes
We've been blessed and we are thankful
Raise your voices to the sky
It is a good day to die
(Available as a ring tone for cell phone addicts)
serena, you may not want to be friends with me, which hurts more then your whip lashings, but thanks for the song. "It's a good day to die" is one of my gringo brother's favorite sayings, so I'm sure he'll enjoy the song as well as I will. Though it was put to use in dispicable circumstances, the slogan is a great motivator for getting the most out of each day, especially these days; I'm glad our conversation brought it up.
Puck,
Please do NOT take this personally, but I don't post on blogsites to make friends.
It either happens or it doesn't.
The Robbie Robertson CD is a good one.
(And no, I don't get a percentage of Robbie's sales.)
That's ok. As a matter of fact, now that you say you're no longer in the states I seem to remember a picture from Abu Graib...there was a matron with a Serena name tag on her uniform, and indeed, she was carrying a whip. I was wondering where that metaphor was coming from.
It came from your need to have a domanatrix figure to fantasize about, IMHO.
M O O N R A V E N ?,
I would not have suspected w/o your referral of a real powerful march on DC.
Welcome back -- your wit and energy is a blessing, and an important yeast to the mix.
Namaste
Thanks, Namaste.
Serena...
Are you a Zapatista? Are you actively working to overthrow the currupt regime of Mexico that rigged the election for Olberon?
What is a "Gringo"?
Golden, as I strongly suspect your motives for engaging me, this will probably be my last reply to you.
1. I am a Zapatista in the REAL, historical sense--in that I live in the village where Emiliano Zapata was born in the state of Morelos and have written 3 "books" about his life (I put that in quotes as they have been produced here as theater works by the campesino theater group I formed 10 years ago) and I actively participate in agrarian issues and forming of agricultural projects here. I am not a member of the EZLN neo-zapatista group in Chiapas, although I appreciate their taking Zapata as a model for forming community.
2. Never heard of a pol called Olberon, sorry.
3. A gringo is a white person from the USA.
Serena...
Thanks for the correction... I meant to write "Calderon"...
You seem to be doing wonderful things with theater and agriculture in your town, and I respect you for that...
Thank you for defining "gringo" for me... While I understand your anti-Yankee sentiment...
Using derogatory terms regarding race IS racist... Regardless of black, white, brown, yellow, red...
No need to be paranoid about my intentions... I don't care where you live or what famous person was born there...
I have been to Oventic... One of the Zapatista caracoles outside of San Cristobal... and volunteered in one of the clinics...
I was donating my time and money to purchase medicine for the clinic where they were treating folks brutally attacked by paramilitaries...
Not all USAans are what you depict them as... There are hundreds of thousands of us working for agrarian reform here as well...
And I have met many mexicans living in Mexico who detest the EZLN and what they stand for...
The world isn't as "Us vs Them" as you make it out to be...
Just a final PS, golden:
1. gringo is not a derogatory term--the other option would be estadundiense, and folks use gringo because it's shorter. If you spent time in Oventic, you should already KNOW all this--another reason to suspect your motives for engaging me as being less than honorable.
2. the world has BECOME us vs. them--and as the scramble for remaining resources escalates, it will become even more so.
I think that's it for me.
Interesting...
I lived in Latin America for 18 months, and three weeks in mexico...
Of the hundreds of people I spoke with in English and Spanish, only rarely did the folks use "gringo"... And the folks at Oventic treated me with respect, and I never heard that term during my time there...
Mostly folks said norte-americano or estadundiense... Of the few times I heard "gringo" was used as a derogatory term...
On more than one occasion, I witnessed people chastise the person for saying it, since it was of poor taste...
I equate "gringo" with "Negro" ... Perhaps it was customary to use that term forty years ago, and some of the old timers still do...
But nowadays it is considered offensive to use that term...
I would argue that you use that term to be dismissive of ALL white USAans...
And go to great lengths to justify it...
Since it is so important for you that people don't say "Americans" when referring to the USA,
Why not just refer to white USAans as "white USAans"?
Instead of using an often misunderstood Spanish word?
Another gringo who believes with his 3 weeks of experience in Mexico as a tourist that he knows more than I do after 17 years here as a member of the community.
Right.
I will use whatever word I choose.
If you don't like it, do not engage me.
In your 3 weeks in Mexico did you ever hear of the word "pendejo"?
In Mexico, (where my father is from) Gringo is can be used both as an insult and a neutral expression. However, in the US (where CD is published and where most of it's readers are from) it is unambiguously derogatory. Your usage of the term is clearly derogatory.
In the US I can enter a person's house with my shoes on, in parts of Japan that could be incredibly insulting. You need to work on your cultural sensitivity.
There is no need to respond with those who point out your errors by calling them pendejos. You are really immature, serena .
Whatever happened to your declaration that you would not be replying to my gringo posts anymore?
Of course you are free to use whatever derogatory and racist words of your choosing... No one said that you can't...
I was making the point that your medium taints your message...
You sound like so many other expatriates that left the USA to move to Mexico or anywhere else along the gringo trail in central america that only focus on the negative, and feel that they are no different than the lot they left behind...
So you want ALL the gringos to leave the continent... What about the mestizos? Where do they go?
What about the African Americans? Back to Africa? And the mulatos? And the Asians? Do tell?
You share the same mentality and ideology as the white supremacists who want to ship the non-whites back to where ever...
It is a childish view of life based on hatred and lacking any compassion...
Most gringos were born on this continent, and can't be held accountable for what their forefathers did before they were born...
Good luck with the "us vs them" trip, I hope you have a change of heart before it causes cancer or a heart attack...
I will spare you the indignity of responding to this post by providing one for you:
Serena says:
Another racist gringo troll ignored...
I DO hold you accountable, because no reparations have been made to my people and you continue to live as Holocaust Denying parasites on our land--your SAYING you can't be held accountable is bullshit.
I cannot get cancer--one of the FEW benefits of having had systemic lupus since infancy.
And I don't believe in smearing false compassion around like peanut butter. My compassion is not for you and your ilk--you simply do not deserve it.
"this will probably be my last reply to you"
Mission accomplished...!
serena ,
Let me say that as a Jew, I respect your proud Native American heritage.
But your views on Obama and America are cynical and shameful.
Can't you see that this is our moment?!? This is OUR time. We have finally elected someone who will listen to us! If we work hard, and work together, we can create meaningful change in America.
I wish you would support Obama.
Maybe this is the revolution you have been waiting for?
Give hope a chance.
It takes dreams to make dreams come true.
Joe,
When you finally land from your STP trip/dream, you are going to crash. It ain't gonna be pretty, so I suggest you create a support network now. And not on this site.
Obama is no different from any other pol you folks have AGREED to let Big Guns and Big Oil impose to play President--he's just a little bit darker (and you may feel free to take the word darker in several of its meanings).
I'm a pretty fair card player, Joe, and I never bet on hope.
I know what the odds are of doing the same thing over and over and expecting or hoping for a different result this time.
Ain't gonna happen, Joe.
And, more to the point, you folks don't deserve it to happen.
"Our moment" and "our time"? Don't speak for all of US. Please. Obama is no revolution. Give hope a chance? If that is the case then we are doomed. Hope means giving up.
He was very good after 911 when he appeared on Larry King with a rabbi, cleric, priest and reverend and it developed into a who's religion is better? debate. He said something about how tribalism is what led to 9 11 in the first place.
For the record, my religion is better than yours. Convert.
Reminds me of the George Carlin bit on the very same subject.
"It happened because they all answered incorrectly to the god question. Do you believe in god? No. POW! Dead! Do you believe in god? Yes. Do you believe in my god? No. POW! Dead! My god has a bigger d**k that your god!!"
Bobby Love
Deepak has one of the great minds/hearts of the 21st century. I encourage anyone who seeks the Truth to check out his vuluminous body of work. One of his projects right now is to have people sign a pledge of non-violence. May peace prevail on earth.
"Do these nine steps seem unrealistic or fanciful?" No, indeed, these 9 steps should all be within reach of accomplishment to any administration truly devoted to the advancement of a peace economy. But, as Ardee notes, the expectation that they will be advanced, based on anything in Obama's record, intentions or cabinet appointments, may indeed be unrealistic or fanciful. Maybe I am wrong on this. I'd be happy to see any commenter post information from any scrap of evidence from anywhere that will give peace activists any "realistic" expectation of such a result after the inauguration of "Hope" on January 20.
Sioux Rose
I applaud leaders who offer a spiritually inclusive vision of a peaceful future for our world. The military is and has been over-rated. To justify its cannibalizing of our nation's collective income(s), it must invent enemies, and that's why the media is so infiltrated with pro-war voices. This is a sickness, the whole feeding frenzy that searches for enemies and is satisfied with puny states that haven't an iota of this nation's military assets with which to defend themselves resembles the lifestyle of sharks. The warm-blooded mammal that gives its own milk to its young learns something about empathy and feelings; but it would seem this evolutionary leap has been lost on the vast majority of persons who have risen to "leadership" positions in the land of the anything but brave. Brave is to champion justice for all, not select privileges for a few that call for the mass murder of too many innocents.
Thank you Deepak for bringing your wisdom to bear on this issue, the key depraved judgment maiming our era.
"The military is and has been over-rated. "
First of all, you might not like our military leaders, but don't you dare insult our military. Got it?
Secondly, you say it's over rated? Well, I bet Iraq wishes it had our military right now.
Also what about WWI? WWII? Korea? The Gulf War? Somalia? Afghanistan? I would argue that the military can still be a force for good. It all depends how it's used.
If you are engaging in a life-or-death fight, do you want to be weaker than your opponent? Slightly weaker? The same skill and size? Slightly better? Or massively better? The answer is obvious. The reasons for maintaining our military supremacy are equally obvious. War is Hell. It should be avoided at all costs. But if you must fight, then you must fight to win.
My father-in law was a bombardier/navigator in the 'good war' (try reading up sometime on the deep dynamics leading up to that conflict) and was one of the first to use napalm against civilian populations in the Korean war. He spent the rest of his life insulting everyone in his family, me included when I married into it. You cannot just go from dropping bombs on people (which he loved doing) to living a 'normal' life. I didn't understand his history until doing CPR on him when he suffered a fatal alcohol-related heart attack. Something about doing that (energy transfer ?) opened a window into his secret world for me. Not only are there no 'victors' in war, there really are no separate 'wars' as per the ones you identify above. There is only the WAR, which is always being engaged in at various places on the planet with varying degrees of intensity from subchronic to absolutely acute.
When we stop identifying with specific 'wars' and start seeing them as particular manifestations of WAR, we will begin to bring a better perspective to our situation. I would recommend The Wars of Gods and Men by Zecharia Sitchin as a good place to start.
."Dont dare insult the military? Or what dumbass?
Try and keep up with those who possess an actual brain, Joe. It is the use to which our military is being put that is criticized. It is the bloated budget containing incredible waste and the purchase of unneeded and nonworking hardware that is being questioned. It is the awful waste of our children's lives in wars that are simply for profit that is being questioned.
The day you leave this forum will be almost as fine a day as when Bush leaves Washington.
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
Sioux Rose
ARDEE, my hero, you saved me the trouble of a response.
JOE: (as per Ardee's posting) Ditto!
Golden Mean
Souix Rose,
I like the juxtaposition between shark and mammal...
I have often made analogies about compassion and selfishness by looking at the evolution of brain development...
The "lizard" brain stem is preoccupied with base individual survival... Sex, competition, fight or flight, etc...
Where as the mammilian brain (cerebral cortex) has to do with community survival: communication, learning skills, empathy, etc...
What makes us humans potentially different is the frontal lobe and pinneal gland and the crown chakra...
which allows for speech, visualization, conscience, true compassion, and conscious connection with Universal Spirit...
It seems to me that people's choices in how they view reality (themselves, others, nature, and spirit) and their actions...
Can be understood from a biological and neurological perspective by seeing which parts of the brain are active...
Advertising executives and speech writers understand this connection, which is why they appeal to our basest fears...
And use language that activates different areas of the brain... Appealing to visual, auditory, and tactile learners alike...
Sioux Rose
Isn't it also stated as ontology recapitulates phylogeny? I agree with your assessment.
.That phrase ( its ontogeny by the by) refers to the journey of the embryo through the evolutionary stages.
Ontogeny...the development of an individual organism
phylogeny..the history of organismal lineages as they change through time.
I know, i am such a pill!
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
You lost me there...!
Ha ha ha