A Mighty Hoax from ACORN Grows
ACORN and election fraud. Hang on. As soon as I can get the alligator that crawled out of my toilet back into the New York City sewers where it belongs, I can turn my attention to this very important topic.
You see, the ACORN "election fraud" story is one of those urban legends, like fake moon landings and alligators in the sewers, and it appears three or four weeks before every recent national election with the regularity of the swallows returning to Capistrano.
First, the basics: ACORN, which stands for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, is an activist group working with low and moderate income families that, among many other things, registers voters. To do this they hire people to go around signing up the unregistered, killing two birds with one stone -- giving employment to people who need it (some with criminal records) and providing the opportunity to vote to members of minority communities whose voices all too often go unheard.
What happens is that some of those hired to do the registering, who are paid by the name, make people up. As a result, you'll discover that among the registrants are such obvious fakes as Mickey Mouse and the starting line-up of the Dallas Cowboys, among others.
This is where the Republican meme kicks in. As they have in past elections (although now louder and more angrily than ever), the GOP has made ACORN the red flag du jour as the party tries to mobilize its conservative base and, allegedly, attempts to suppress the vote and distract attention from accusations of election tampering made against them, too.
The charge is that these fake registrations will create havoc at the polls. On Tuesday morning, former Republican Senators John Danforth and Warren Rudman, chairs of Senator McCain's Honest and Open Elections Committee, held a press conference and described the results of the bad seeds in ACORN's registration program as "a potential nightmare." Danforth said he was concerned "that this election night and the days that follow will be a rerun of 2000, and even worse than 2000."
John McCain raised it at Wednesday night's final debate and went further, adding, "We need to know the full extent of Senator Obama's relationship with ACORN, who [sic] is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy..."
Obama replied, "ACORN is a community organization. Apparently, what they have done is they were paying people to go out and register folks. And apparently, some of the people who were out there didn't really register people; they just filled out a bunch of names. Had nothing to do with us. We were not involved."
Which is not to say Obama has not been associated with ACORN in the recent past. He has. As he said in the debate, as a lawyer, he joined with the group in partnership with the US Justice Department to implement a motor voter registration law in Illinois -- allowing folks to register to vote at their local DMV. His work as a community organizer bought him into contact with ACORN, the organization received money from the Woods Fund while he was a board member there and his presidential campaign gave ACORN more than $800,000 to help with get out the vote campaigns during the primary season -- but not, apparently, for registration drives.
All of this distracts from several important points. ACORN has registered 1.3 million voters, and maintains that in virtually every instance they are the ones who have reported the incidents of fraud.
As the organization asserted in a response to Senator McCain, "ACORN hired 13,000 field workers to register people to vote. In any endeavor of this size, some people will engage in inappropriate conduct. ACORN has a zero tolerance policy and terminated any field workers caught engaging in questionable activity. At the end of the day, as ACORN is paying these people to register voters, it is ACORN that is defrauded." Arrests have been made, as well they should be.
Add to this the simple fact that registration fraud is not election fraud. Seventy-five, made-up people who are registered as, say, "Brad Pitt," are not likely going to show up at some polling place on November 4 to vote in the election. Because they don't exist. (Besides, Angelina would never give them time off from babysitting duties.)
Granted, there are ways to mail in an absentee ballot under a fake name and, too, from time to time some joker is going to come to the polls and try to bluff his or her way in. But despite the charge that thousands and thousands of fakes will flood the machines and throw the count, it does not happen very often. And according to ACORN, "Even RNC [Republican National Committee] General Counsel Sean Cairncross has recently acknowledged he is not aware of a single improper vote cast as a result of bad cards submitted in the course of an organized voter registration effort."
Not that this has stopped the GOP from banging the same drum every national election. And amnesiac members of the media and some government agencies from buying into it every time. Last year, The New York Times reported that the federal Election Assistance Commission, created by the Help America Vote Act, legislation enacted after the Florida debacle, was told by a pair of experts -- one Republican, the other described as having "liberal leanings" -- that there was not that much fraud to be found. But their conclusions were downplayed.
As per the Times, "Though the original report said that among experts 'there is widespread but not unanimous agreement that there is little polling place fraud,' the final version of the report released to the public concluded in its executive summary that 'there is a great deal of debate on the pervasiveness of fraud.'"
Which raises the ongoing investigation of the Justice Department's firing of those eight US attorneys shortly after President Bush's re-election. It shouldn't be forgotten that despite official explanations, half of them were let go after refusing to prosecute vote fraud charges demanded by Republicans. The attorneys had determined there was little or no evidence of skullduggery; certainly not enough to prosecute.
(In an interview with Talking Points Memo on Thursday, one of those fired, David Iglesias, reacted to reports that the FBI has launched an investigation of ACORN: "I'm astounded that this issue is being trotted out again. Based on what I saw in 2004 and 2006, it's a scare tactic.")
What's equally if not more scary are continued allegations of Republican attempts at "caging" minority voters -- making challenge lists of African- and Hispanic-Americans registered in heavily Democratic districts. Just this week, a Federal judge in Michigan ruled that voters could not be purged from the rolls in that state simply because their mailing address was invalid -- this followed a failed attempt by a Michigan Republican county chairman to use a list of foreclosed homes as the basis of voter challenges.
This comes on the heels of a recent report from the Brennan Center at New York University documenting how state officials -- often with the best of intentions -- purge huge numbers of perfectly legal voters from the rolls.
As my colleague Bill Moyers reported, "Hundreds of thousands of legal voters may have been dumped in recent years, many without ever being notified." The report describes a "process that is shrouded in secrecy, prone to error, and vulnerable to manipulation."
Hardly reassuring words if you want democracy to work, and sadly, not an urban legend, but the simple truth.
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27 Comments so far
Show All"Voting is for idiots" (tetti_tatti )
"Who's questioning your right to vote?"
I agree you were not calling me an idiot, just my wife who is an American and does vote. My point was that the right to vote is the basis of any political democracy.
"I was questioning the usefulness of voting in America"(tetti_tatti
No, you were clearly playing the heavy and calling your fellow citizens (who vote) idiots. Are you really suggesting that those who excercise their reponsibilities of citizenship are "idiots?" Who really is the idiot here? The person who has the ability and the opportunity to vote and does so, or a person who also has the ability and opportunity to vote but who not only abdicates this right of citizenship but labels those who do exercise their right to vote as "idiots?
To be honest I don't think you are an idiot. But your comment was definitely not a responsible one.
I have attended ACORN Meetings and Democratic Meetings, yes, the Democrats have an slight edge on orderliness but ACORN has a big edge on listening to disorderly people, regardless what they say and how long it takes them to say it. It remeinds me of the meetings we had under a tree, way back before the Constitutional Convention was even a glimmer in anyone's mind.
Why must everyone conform to my notions (or your notions) of orderliness?
The fact that anyone can talk was much appreciated and I spoke in clear words, not of the Political Correct lexicon.
If you hate ACORN, you hate people that are not like you and guess what?
You are the only one like you and there is only one of me, pause for sigh of relief and to let you define your idea of Democracy.
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MikeSar
Ran into the boss first thing this morning - all full of ACORN this and that. Obama is a LIAR... a COMMIE... He's a big Fox Neocon Channel fan.
I'd print this article and leave in his in box, but he would throw a s--t fit on me. Says Obama lied and said he never, ever had ANYTHING to do with ACORN. Can't vote for a liar, but we're all too stupid to know that!
"Learn from Europe? I'd rather not, thank you. Europe produces Nazis and neo-Nazi parties that get 25% of the vote in presidential elections."(TruthTeller October 20th, 2008 6:05 pm)
Well I guess in Europe everybody gets to dance.
"Voting is for idiots. It doesn't change the corruption in Washington, the bailouts, the wars, the spying"(tetti_tatti October 21st, 2008 7:17 am)
Well I guess you can put me on the idiot list. I might be somewhat outdated here but I still believe that the right to vote is the basis of a political democracy.
I am fifty-three years old so I guess I am somewhat behind the times. Just another idiot showing up at city,provincial, and federal elections....to vote!
Who's questioning your right to vote? I was questioning the usefulness of voting in America.
Voting is for idiots. It doesn't change the corruption in Washington, the bailouts, the wars, the spying. Stop wasting your time registering, voting. When did an election produce an American leader who wasn't involved in corruption, or genocide or wars, or spying on citizens, or squandering of the treasury?
There are only two ways to get the government to do what you want, and they don't involve violence: take all your money from the banks and stop paying your taxes. The rest is masturbation.
Someone who has been disenfranchised by the purges needs to sue.
That is why I'm a card carrying member of the ACLU, so that those who have been unconstitutionally deprived of their right to vote can ask for punitive damages to discourage this behavior...
the main problem with the Acorn issue has more to do with half-assed ACORN managers (and their bosses) promising people advancement if they perform... and meet quotas....
...that's not a very smart choice. in the end, you get a bunch of people trying to make money to get by rather than really having any interest in your progressive projects....
...so, yes, there isn't any overt desire to rig the system. the only main problem is that progressive politics really isn't found on the street, in the nooks and alleys... among most of my friends I grew up with....
...and that is the kick in the teeth for all of the progressives thinking they are fighting for the poor and common man... the poor and common folks that I come from aren't found in the rank and file of the progressive movement, aren't found at the antiwar protests, aren't found with placards protesting an RNC convention....those ranks are filled by well-off people who can afford the luxury of protesting and community organizing, always knowing you have hot shower and a college education to fall back on.... ...hell, even with the more traditional progressives (ie no jail for protest) half of these people I met enter into americorps are doing so as a resume builder....
this is the reality on the ground... and that is also why so many progressive / liberals just hate Palin... ... it isn't who she is, with her rough and tumble attitude, it is her political ideology... ...we'd all be just be jumping up and down if you get an average talking, average person to bank these gigs... ...but you don't and that is the kicker... ...you have to pay to get out the vote....
$35million so far and counting for ACORN get out the vote....
but, in the end, we aren't talking about a movement. we are just talking about winning an election....
It's a tempest in a teapot. I guess the GOP mouthpieces forgot about the rigged 2000 and 2004 presidential elections. ACORN is a piker when it comes to phony elections. Rove and his henchmen, who intimidate voters, purge names from rolls, use push polls and so forth, really know their stuff. They're experts.
Purge anyone?? Read this...
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/press.aspx?id=3771
July 10, 2008
Attorney General Corbett announces charges in legislative bonus investigation - 12 suspects charged in 1st phase of the investigation
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In Pensylvania, Democrats, during the 2004 election ,pulled illegal dirty tricks to keep Ralph Nader from getting votes.
Finally justice prevails and their tactics are EXPOSED.
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The whole idea of voter-registration seems broken to me. Think about it. In a Democracy, why would anyone have tor register in order to cast a vote? Is voting a right, or some kind of privilege? There are many alternatives to this mess:
America could learn from the Iraqi election and mark voters' thumbs with ink. Let everyone vote unless he is inked already. If that's too low-tech, use some kind of fluid that is only visible under ultraviolet light. Registration problem solved. Ah, but there is this permanent disenfranchised underclass known as illegal aliens, who are must be kept from voting, so that they don't become uppity and demand civil rights. And because Republicans don't like the way these people would vote.
Well then, learn from Europe. In Germany, every citizen is required by law to keep a federal agency informed about his or her place of residence. I'd guess that this is true for most European States. Identity Cards are issued to every person when they turn 16 years old. The state sends personalized voter identification prior to an election. At election day, go to your polling place, show your Identity Card and hand over the voter identification prior to polling. No hassle, no fake registrations, no stripping of names from registered voters lists. But I hear that Americans deeply distrust Identity Cards and would never accept a duty to keep federal agencies informed about their residence.
I'd go for the inked-thumb: specially with the option to get red, blue, or third-party green ink.
"Well then, learn from Europe. In Germany, every citizen is required by law to keep a federal agency informed about his or her place of residence"
Learn from Europe? I'd rather not, thank you. Europe produces Nazis and neo-Nazi parties that get 25% of the vote in presidential elections. (Le Pen in France) Let the European sheeple keep their identity cards, we will survive without them. And where Americans live is no one's business.
Chirac beat Le Pen by 82.21% to 17.79%.
Holocaust denial is a punishable crime in Europe. And punish it they do.
The percentage of fascisti in the US is probably what it is in Europe; until this election, they've been better cloaked, though.
And where exactly did Timothy McVeigh come from? and George Allen of "macaca" infamy?
"Holocaust denial is a punishable crime in Europe. And punish it they do."
And you think that is a GOOD thing? I am appalled that any country that considers themselves a modern, Western democracy sends people to jail for what they say or write. This is why our founders gave us a Bill of Rights with a guarantee of freedom of speech. As is pointed out often, it is not favored speech that needs to be protected, it is objectionable speech that needs to be defended. Sending someone to jail for 20 years or more (this has happened recently) for questioning the basic story of the Holocaust is beyond the pale as far as I'm concerned. There may in-fact be aspects of the Holocaust that need to be further looked into. I'm agnostic on the subject, but allowing unfettered investigation and discussion of the events should not cause any official distress, provided those putting forth the "official" version of those events have nothing to hide.
"But I hear that Americans deeply distrust Identity Cards and would never accept a duty to keep federal agencies informed about their residence."
You heard correctly, but it may very well come to that.
Not an Identity Card (your papers, please?) but why not have to produce photo ID of some sort to Vote?...I think thats reasonable...
Just got an email from Matt....he will be leaving for Kuwait tomorrow then back to Ft Campbell (Germany,Ireland and Home was how it went last time)
.If photo ID's are free and easily accesible to every single American......
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
If any of you run into some Republican blowhard spouting ACORN, merely reply calmly back with "Young Political Majors" & their head scum bag, Mark Jacoby. He was arrested this past weekend in Ontario, CA. on suspicion of voter registration fraud. It appears as if his operatives and he pulled bait & switch on voters to re-register them as Republicans. Writing as a former voter registration worker in California, I am not surprised in the slightest: the Republicans usually hired the dodgy operators as a matter of course.
Here it is for the world to see. A society that can put people into outer space and add so many other capabilities to that, but they cannot seem to make their " Election System" operate efficiently. This is yet one more "great lie".
The true "urban legend" is that they WANT a Democracy, in reality they now have exactly what they have had for most of the time---an "Oligarchy".
To bring Democracy into the picture would be to "give up control" and they cannot bear the thought much less allow it to happen. They allow the old and now strained argument that the move to keep certain voters out of the system is countered by the actions of organizations like ACORN---which I am sure have good intentions. The Oligarchy want to keep people out that may make needed changes, that they believe would be detrimental to their control, so they make "the booger man, in the closet" or the anti-hero, out of those who would actually present a truly Democratic approach to the election process. They did the same with now debunked Jim Crow laws, and even the 1964 Gun Control Act.
If ACORN were truly a threat, they would have infiltrated it long ago, and either neutralized it or "turned it around" for their own use. And they would have made a 'great show" of the prosecutions resulting in the 'infiltration".
For just one small example. When the American Indian Movement (AIM) was first organized it was immediately infiltrated by the FBI with informants as well as FBI agents, one of them was actually Italian American. AIM actually accomplished little, and many people now do not even remember it. Yet, of all of the minorities in the USA population the Native American People as a whole as well by tribal affiliation are the only minority to have a legitimate LEGAL complaint via valid treaties under the control of the Interior Department. AIM represented a true threat because they had a legal complaint.
Racism being an old weapon of the Oligarchy is often used but has become stale now with so many changes in the perspective of the American People in regards to race. Although there are some old hold outs these are usually dull and unintelligent individuals who seek each other out for the company---like flies seek fecal matter or dead flesh to lay their eggs on. Those of us who have experienced racism laugh and think that if we just leave the racist alone, they will inbreed to the point that they will be back to walking on their knuckles again, and couldn't even get drivers licenses.
The real question now is certainly whether the USA can "make itself honest" in the eyes of the world after so many years of blatant hypocrisy?
If history is any indication, it would be highly recommended that you do not make any bets on them changing the Oligarchy to a Democracy, any time soon anyway.
As it stands now, from the legal perspective, i.e. The Geneva Accords as well as the Nuremberg Accords and Tribunals, the USA now has a population of "Prisoners of War" that in the last census ranged in the 2.5 million numbers range; the Native American People and the Tribes they represent who have treaties with the USA. Via Art. #3, US Constitution.
I do not believe that a true "Democracy" would tolerate that, but an "Oligarchy" would thrive on it, and has, that is the "good ole USA"........
So good luck out there on Nov 4.
.Free Leonard Peltier......
GOP is the pot calling the Democratic kettle black....
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
Unlike Moosolini of the Alaska Phalangist Party -- and unlike the outgoing junta -- ACORN really has nothing to fear from complete transparency & will benefit from the publicity, even while being publically assailed.
Remembe,r during the first Clinton administration, the right wing made a great deal of political hay from the end of the Branch Davidian tragedy in Waco -- that is, they did until Tim McVeigh killed 168 civilians in Oklahoma City. Americans dislike thuggery, and the more vandalism and death threats they see from the right, the more the right wing will fall further & further into disrepute, not just on issues; but fundamentally, the right wing has forfeited the notion that their "pro-Americans" are part of a 'silent majority,' but are really just part of a very vicious, vindictive, and bigoted minority.
Just wondering: could it be that the GOP knows this election is a lost cause unless they can somehow steal it AGAIN! Maybe all this hyperbole of voter fraud against ACORN is a canard that the GOP will use for a lawsuit against Obama once he wins the election. That way the Supreme Court can give the election to McCain and Palin.
On Friday, Obama's legal counsel sent a strongly worded public letter to the Attorney General calling for an investigation into possible (meaning: open and evident) collusion between the McCain campaign and White House officials. Obama's not just doing the usual muttering about a "troubling pattern".
Obama is not just "another lawyer", as some have put it; he has a first-rate legal mind which is not deployed in working out self-serving nuances along the lines of "it depends on your definition", but in navigating around the mines set by Republicans.
Winship is right on here -- to be added, ACORN triages the registrations -- by law, private organizations collecting registrations must turn in ALL forms (obviously a good idea -- otherwise you could discard all those who register with the wrong party).
But back to the triage -- ACORN delivers three piles, the first is what they are pretty sure are ok, the second are doubtful and the third pile is labeled very very suspect (these may not be the actual labels, but the sense is correct.
Anyway, the Repugnants take the third pile and find that, for example, Mickey Mouse, is not a real person. "Voter Fraud!" they cry, well knowing that Mickey Mouse is never going to get to vote -- the actual problem is a glitch in voter registration, and they know this, but any half truth is good enough for a smear and the bobble head pundits pick it up and spread the crap like they are paid to do.
There's a glory in the morning because the earth turns 'round and a promise in the evening when the sun goes down
Could be worse. ACORN could use agents posing as voter registration activists that solicits Republicans to register to vote, and then discard their registration papers so that the targets show up to vote on election day and are denied.
Oh, that was done by Republicans to "register" Democratic voters in 2004.
LOL, you almost got me with your snark, gus!
There's a glory in the morning because the earth turns 'round and a promise in the evening when the sun goes down