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Liberated from Libertarianism: Rand Paul Runs and Hides from... Rand Paul
Maybe we can finally have a serious discussion in this country about the lunacies of libertarianism.
I doubt it. This is, after all, America. I doubt we'd know an intelligent political discourse if it whacked us upside the haid.
But now we have Rand Paul, son of Ron, marching toward the United States Senate, with a mission to "take back our government". Oh boy.
I might be able to get a little bit excited about that if it really was his goal. The truth is that the American government exists almost entirely to serve the interests of the American plutocracy. If libertarians want to break that evil connection, well, then, definitely give me a shout. I'll be glad to pitch in.
But, of course, you pretty much never hear them talk about that part as they rant about the evils of government.
What do libertarians actually want, Herr Doktor? It's not entirely clear to me that they know themselves. They're pretty good with the shibboleths, but always seem to have trouble beyond that. That's because it is precisely on the other side of the sappy slogans where the contradictions of libertarianism come glaringly into focus. This is the place where naive but kindly people would say "Wot, I signed up for that?", and that's exactly why libertarians don't want to go there.
Such avoidance of reality is not only rarely a problem in American political discourse, it's nearly a national religion. In this sense, the discussion Rand Paul had with Rachel Maddow the other night was doubly instructive. First, because Paul - the national savior on horseback du jour - was reduced to repeated instances of the most basic, and base, political maneuvering in order to come to grips with the implications of his own ideology.
And, second, because Maddow gave us a partial reminder of what good journalism would actually look like in America. She didn't actually get quite all the way to where she should have gone, but her polite, thoughtful and semi-relentless questioning of her guest was as foreign to what passes for journalism in this country today as would be six-headed fourteen-dimensional gaseous creatures from a distant galaxy. Maddow is fast becoming a national treasure, which says a lot about her, but, regrettably, a lot more about her colleagues in the ‘news' business.
There are several key explanations for the rise of the insane right over the last three decades, but surely one of them has been the compliance of the mainstream media. Politicians have been able to make the most absurdly ridiculous and hypocritical statements without fear of being called on them. And if they ever were, they need only repeat the same line in some slightly different variation, and that's the end of the affair - media lapdogs are well trained to cease and desist. One of Maddow's great virtues - which ought to be a sine qua non for anyone calling themselves a journalist - is her doggedness.
To see what I mean, check out this paraphrased approximation (not too far from verbatim, actually) of her conversation with Rand Paul the other night:
MADDOW: Congratulations on your big victory last night. Do you believe that private business people should be able to not serve black people or gays or any other minority group?
PAUL: I don't believe in racism. I don't think there should be any governmental or institutional racism. Now I'm going to go into a long diversionary soliloquy about William Lloyd Garrison, an early nineteenth century abolitionist, and also about when ‘desegregation' [actually anti-discrimination] legislation was passed into law in Boston...
MADDOW: Yes, okay, that was pretty weird. But what about private businesses who might want to not serve blacks or gays? Should they have the legal right to do so?
PAUL: We had incredible problems with racism in the 1950s concerning voting, schools and public housing. This is what civil rights addressed and what I largely agree with.
MADDOW: But what about private businesses? I don't want to be badgering you on this, but I do want an answer.
PAUL: I'm not in favor of any discrimination of any form, I would never belong to any club that excluded anybody for race. What's important here is to not get into any sort of "gotcha" on the question of race, but to ask the question, "What about freedom of speech?" Should we limit speech from people we find abhorrent?
MADDOW: The Civil Rights Act was created to take away the right of individual business owners to discriminate, taking away their right to make that decision. Which side of that debate are you on?
PAUL: In the totality of it, I'm in favor of the federal government being involved in civil rights, which is mostly what the Civil Rights Act was about. I'm opposed to any form of governmental racism or discrimination or segregation.
MADDOW: The reason that this is something I'm not letting go of this is because it effects real people's lives. This question involves the matter of private discrimination in public accommodations. Should that be allowed?
PAUL: The debate involves a lot of court cases with regard to the commerce clause. Many states are now saying that they have a right to force restaurant owners to allow people to enter with guns even if the owners don't want them to. So you see how this issue can cut both ways, against liberals too.
MADDOW: What if the owner of a restaurant or a swimming pool or a bowling alley wanted to segregate their facility? Should they be allowed to do so under your world view?
PAUL: We did some very important things in the 1960s that I'm all in favor of. That was desegregating schools, public transportation, water fountains.
MADDOW: How about lunch counters?
PAUL: Well, if you do that, then can the owner of the restaurant keep out guns? Does the owner of a restaurant own his restaurant or does the government own his restaurant?
MADDOW: Should Woolworths lunch counters have been left to be segregated? Sir, just yes or no?
PAUL: I don't believe in any discrimination. If you believe in regulating private ownership, you have to decide on whether you also want to force guns in restaurants when the owner doesn't want them. This is a red herring being used by my political opponents. It's an abstract, obscure conversation from 1964 that you want to bring up. Every fiber of my being doesn't believe in discrimination, doesn't believe that we should have that in our society, and to imply otherwise is just dishonest.
MADDOW: I couldn't disagree with you more on this issue, but I thank you for coming on the show and having this civilized discussion about it...
So, by my count, Maddow asks Paul the core question here no fewer than eight times in a row. This is precisely what she should have been doing, and in doing so she provides a huge service to American society. If I were to fault her anywhere, it would be only for not identifying Paul's diversionary tactics for what they were, calling them out, and thereby pushing them off the table. I would have liked to have seen her say, "With respect, sir, we're not talking about that. Or that, or that, or that. We're talking about this."
And she would have needed to do that several times over, because Paul's game here is to shift the discussion to domains where he is more comfortable, and where the problems with his ideology don't show up so readily. Maddow says let's talk about discrimination in privately-held public accommodations, and he says let's talk about my lack of prejudice. She tries again and he wants to discuss governmental discrimination. She repeats the question and he says let's talk about nineteenth century history. She asks once more and he starts talking about censorship and the First Amendment. She tries yet again and he changes the topic to guns, which involves legislating behavior, rather than race, which concerns who you are. She asks still another time and he cries foul, claiming that this is some obscure red herring being used by his opponents for purposes of political assassination.
All of these are diversionary lies, meant to avoid the unpleasant realities of what libertarianism would actually look like in action. But the last lie is the most egregious. The entire reason for Rand Paul's existence right now - which is also almost literally true, given that he has the unfortunate burden of being named for Ayn Rand, a twisted soul if ever there was - is his premise of reclaiming American government in the name of liberty for the American people. That's who he is. That's what he represents himself to be. That's his political shtick, his raison d'être. What the Maddow interview reveals, however, is that he's really just another politician trying to win office, not a crusader at all. And what it also reveals is just how bankrupt are those libertarian notions if you look at them at all closely.
The ideology has some nice bumper-sticker like appeal, especially for the more simplistic among us. I mean, who, after all, could be against more freedom? And, indeed, when it comes to social issues, the libertarians have it exactly right. The government shouldn't be in the business of controlling women's bodies, or telling people what substances they can imbibe, or who they can sleep with or marry, or whether they can end their own lives should they choose to. But you don't need to be a libertarian to get to those places. These are also progressive ideas as well.
Where libertarianism breaks down is in assuming that we can all just do what we want and it will work out great. And in assuming that all private actors are essentially well intentioned. Neither of these is true, and a libertarian society would leave each of us at the mercy of these twin fallacies. And that's an ugly place to be, let me tell you.
Suppose you bought a house and had a fat mortgage outstanding on it. Now the guy who owns the plot next door decides to build an abattoir on his land. You can't live in your house anymore because of the nauseating, permeating, stink. You also can't sell it, because no one else wants to live there either. And you're still stuck paying the mortgage, probably plunging you into bankruptcy since you're now also paying rent to live somewhere else. Why did all this happen? Because you voted for that libertarian city council, and they threw out all the zoning laws on the books, preferring maximum freedom for use of private property instead. Aren't you thrilled about how that worked out?
So you pack all your belongings in your car and decide to drive away. But you turn around after going just a couple of miles, because everybody drives on any side of the road they want to, whenever they want to, and it's scary dangerous out there. Why? Because the libertarian state government you elected - true to its principles - eliminated all such driving laws as the restrictions on personal freedom they truly are.
So maybe you'll fly instead, eh? Oops. Sorry. That's just as frightening. The new libertarian federal government eliminated the FAA and all its restrictions on private carriers as an invasion of their corporate liberties. No red tape here anymore! No onerous regulations! Now each carrier can hire whomever it wants, at whatever salary, to do whatever amount of safety inspection it deems appropriate. Or none at all. No reason to worry, though. I'm sure a corporation would never cut corners in order to maximize profits, right?
Well, actually, never mind - the flying off to a better place idea is moot anyhow. You see, there's no airport in your town. No private actors had either the resources or the motivation to build one. And since government is evil, they never did the job either. Which is also why you're about to lose you job, as well. With no ports, trains, highways, internet or other mass infrastructure, the US is about to become an economic actor more or less on the scale of Togo. Congratulations on that bright move, my libertarian friend! How does the freedom of chronic unemployment taste? Yummy, eh?
But, really, what do you care, anyhow? Your water is polluted because anyone can dump anything into it they want. Ditto with your filthy air. And global warming is about to take out all the living things on the planet, anyhow. We will be quite free to die, thanks to libertarianism.
Well, all is not lost. At least you can walk down to your local dining establishment and have a nice meal without having to fear the presence of darkies or queers in the same room with you. That pretty much makes it all worth it, no?
We could go on and on from here, but why bother? The point is made. The problem with libertarianism is that it is a child's candy store fantasy. Lots of sugar, no nutritional value. It's the Mel Gibson ("Freeeee-dom!!") of political ideologies. The ugly truth is that we hominids are social animals, not atomistic asteroids, each flying through space in our own little orbit. At the end of the day, the simultaneous great delight and awful curse of our humanness is, ultimately, each other.
That is not to say that individual liberty is not important. It is, and I no more favor libertarianism's opposite number, totalitarianism, than I do the lunacy of Ayn Rand, who spent her life (vastly over-)reacting to the Stalinism of her youth. I don't want to live in either of those worlds. It's just that it's naive and juvenile to believe that what is required here is anything other than some sort of difficult balance between the needs of the individual and those of society. That's the only solution that works.
One would think we might have learned this lesson of late. We've just come through an era of wholesale foolish deregulation in the name of setting free Americans and their productive capacities. The whole of our ethos of political economy these last three decades could easily be boiled down to a single bumper-sticker: "Government Bad, Industry Good". So now we might wanna ask ourselves, as Sarah Palin would put it (assuming she had a brain larger than a centipede's), "How's that whole deregulatey depressiony thing working out for you?"
Sorry, Mr. Paul. Just when we've seen precisely what happens when greedy individuals with all the morality of mafia hit men are allowed to do whatever they want by a government that is completely coopted by them on a good day, and utterly AWOL the rest of the time, you come talking to me about more ‘freedom' from government intrusion?!?! Are you joking?
Government, as imperfect and downright lethal as it can be when in the hands of those who use it for the wrong purposes, is the instrument and expression of the public will. It is the tool through which society conveys its values and seeks to achieve our mutual goals. And it is meant to be triumphant over private actors because societal needs (which, by the way, can, should and often do include government protecting individual liberties - see, for example, "Rights, Bill of") are broadly more important than those of the individual.
It would be a mark of our (return to) political maturity if we could acknowledge that.
If that's too much to ask, though, I wonder if my libertarian friends would at least be willing to take ownership of the real implications of their own ideology.
I mean, if you guys are just going to practice deceit and hypocrisy, why bother taking over the Republican Party?
Those guys are already experts.
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LIFE and PROFIT
We come into this world on a choice and that choice comes with a pocket full of Karma and it is something that cannot be handed over to another Soul to take care of it for you. Of course with freewill it can, and does, get forgotten as one is going forward in this linier time line that we have on this planet and it is my contention that most all that incarnate at any particular time do so with a goal in mind and, for most the goal is to advance to a Soul cleansing level where to come back to this place is an option that has more positives going for it than negatives. It is always a choice to come back or no but and this is a big but it is more difficult to clear up any Karma incurred here from over there; it can be done but it is like, here, you pay in cash and from over there (spirit) you go on the payment plan and for how long; who knows?
That first part is the life and this part is the profit; One may ask where is there any profit for a Soul life that extends forever since the Creator is and always was forever we get to do whatever with a freewill and as history has shown and the present is showing freewill for some is the accumulating of things that are not transferable once you are planted or smoked; So where is the profit here? Family is the first in the ledger that should be in the profit column as they are there to make the time on this planet a place where the unit, as a whole, may lift up the Soul vibration make a spiritual profit for all: there are exceptions to all rules, except the Creators, and some families lose. Friends are next in this ledger and in some cases maybe more profit than family; don’t know exactly how this works but family, friends, some people met that become close are Souls that you have been close before as, maybe family, friend, sweetheart whatever. All Souls though come from the one source and we should treat all as we wish to be treated and that is the profit, the gold standard of profit for the Soul. The whole earth is our home and we plunder any at our peril. The peril for all is here.
Tony 5/23/2010
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
They need to start going after wittle baby Rand's daddykins and shove a mike in his self-righteous face and demand some answers so we won't have to put up with the freakazoid pseudo-libertarians who come on this site and lecture us about what a capitalist corporatist saint Ron Paul is.
Goddamn the effing Tea Party. If America lets those scum-bags get ANY degree of real power it's the fault of those who didn't resist what should have been an EASY to humiliate bunch of rich hick bigots.
PAUL: "If you believe in regulating private ownership, you have to decide on whether you also want to force guns in restaurants when the owner doesn't want them."
Next time Paul enters an 'asians-only' drug store, I'd like to see him check his skin at the door as easily as he could check his gun.
Before we get off on the wrong track, it's important to know that not all libertarians are the same. There is also 'left libertarianism', much different than the right or far right variety. Look it up on wikipedia, and if you don't mind the 'crotchetiness' of his recent posts (exacerbated no doubt by his poor health) Arthur Silber's blog at http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/ provides some excellent reading and insights.
The current notion of 'libertarianism' is [edit: NOT -- I meant NOT much closer] -- much closer to the real thing than current 'conservatism' is actually conservative (instead of neoconservative / fascist -- or neoliberalism is actually liberal).
Ayn Rand was not so much a true libertarian as a sociopath. (And Stalin was not a communist. We need to start reclaiming the words stolen by the fanatics and mindless mass media.)
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
And I still think all American notions of libertarianism are inherently puerile and were rendered totally obsolete with the rise of industrialist capitalism whose business cycle treats labor, by turns, as worthy of incentives and completely expendable.
I often tell US libertarians I'm debating with something like 'they should go to a deserted island and open a clam bar on the beach, and see how well they do on their alone'. Usually they are all hot to take everything they can 'on their own' and ignore all the benefits they get by being part of society -- rights for them and scrabble in the dirt for everyone else.
But this Rand Paul -- I suspect he might as well have changed his name to 'none of the above' and would have gotten the same vote; I don't most people who voted for him thought mich about or cared about philosophical ideologies but are just sick and tired of voting for the usual crooks. Paul is just the latest reification of 'change you can believe in', and people like believing and hoping better than taking to the streets.
With being dumbed down by both the school system and the media most people don't understand what's going on and how the system is structured against them -- that's where 'organize, organize' has a lot of work to do: we peasants educating ourselves and taking back our minds from the oppressors, as in the Steve Biko quote: "The most potent weapon of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed".
US 'libertarians' hold up the banner of personal freedom, but it's not real libertarianism, but, as other say here, corporate rule and exploitation. These people are going to get snookered again if they don't wise up and pull together: individualism is fine to a point but we can't fight the corporations one by one, but only by well organized cooperative actions.
I have the same first and last names but a very different perspective than the author. It's reflected in Alexander Cockburn's comments this weekend at counterpunch.org.
Liberals like DMG will not face up to the corporate and imperial nature of Democrats, Obama, etc. They jump on the opportunity to play the race card against libertarians who oppose war, and in many ways the financial centralization of our economy for the benefit of the few. This is not a quibble. CD regularly publishes DMG's stuff--almost all of it narrow-minded and pretentious, assuming his own righteousness and moral credentials. It's not the case. This is along the lines of MoveOn.
"Progressives" like DMG are using that word to distinguish themselves from the Left. That's because DMG cannot, willnot, get to the root of our society's problems.
I saw the Rachel Maddow interview with Rand Paul. Green's paraphrase of it was accurate. He used Paul's words to show what how slippery the man is, and how abhorrent some of his ideas are.
Unlike Green's column, your ad hominem attack is vacuous; you have nothing substantive to say, so you attack the man.
Why not quote chapter and verse, as Green did?
It's no longer about Democrats and Republicans, liberals and conservatives--it really never was, at least not recently. It's about imperialists and neoliberals on the one hand, and those who oppose corporate and military-industrial power. This stuff is not that hard to figure out. Again, check out Counterpunch, Z, or other websites that see through the fakeness of "partisanship." DMG cannot, will not. He's staked his claim, and it's quite banal.
Yes. Indeed.
Clearly, to oppose corporatism, one must get rid of all laws and regulations that bind those corporations.
Are you kidding? Cockburn's piece was a barely intelligible self-contradictory mishmash. At one point he talks about why Rand Paul would be preferable to his Democratic opponent, and then later describes Paul as "utterly insane". Yes, we get it. The two party system is a one party system. But it doesn't necessarily follow that any ideology, even a crazier one, is preferable to the (admittedly toxic) status quo.
Why don't "progressives" lke DMG and others on this site ever address the radical implications of tens of thousands of Kentucky Republicans voting for Paul, who opposes Obama's wars in the middle east, Obama's sanctions on Iran and aid to Israel.
I detest the Rethuglicans, but I see Paul's primary victory as a big advance for the forces of anti-imperialism. When was the last time there was an anti-interventionist candidate from the right?
How do you know that the people who voted for Paul did so because they oppose the wars, the sanctions and the aid of Israel? How do you know that they didn't vote for Paul because they want more deregulation?
Of course I don't know why Kentucky Republicans voted for Paul, but I do know that his anti-war views were not a fatal issue for him in a red state.
The Rahm Emmanuel inspired Dems generally run pro-war candidates in red states like Kentucky based on the lie that opposition to the war would sink red state Dems.
I also think Paul will defend his anti-interventionist positions throughout the campaign and vote against Obama's wars in the Senate, if he wins.
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
I think you'll see Rand cave on imperialism the instant he gets into any real office. "Anti-interventionism" is the weakest leg of contemporary "libertarianism" which is puerile, ammoral, unthinking and unfeeling in the first place and does not reckon consequences of its own self-righteousness but only the individual libertarian's glory in wallowing in that self-righteousness.
When one denigrates libertarianism, one should be careful, lest one also wants to denigrate the likes of Noam Chomsky.
Noam Chomsky: left wing libertarian.
Ron Paul: right wing libertarian.
A simple distinction, but one that many people often fail to understand.
Great comment.
In economic terms, no they don't. But they represent a certain popular discontent with both imperialism and economic concentration. The real left (DMG is nowhere near) need to begin to see people like DMG as part of the problem, and the Pauls and many of their followers as part of the solution, politically speaking. What is it exactly that supposedly "progressive" people don't understand about the two-corporate-party system?
:Lots of name calling. Why not address Green's points instead? The ones that have nothing to do with race.
If anything, the "race card" is a godsend for the Pauls and his supporters like you. It allows you do avoid facing up to the far bigger flaws of that brand of libertarianism.
I agree, DG, that DMG tends to just be a shill for the Democrats. And certainly, the Dems truly support these wars, which is abominable. But I wouldn't be so quick to trade Rand Paul's expressed opposition to the wars for acceptance of his views that capitalism should have no restraints. That's not really a viable proposition.
Rand Paul and the Dem Party are one on accepting unlimited corporate power. Both should be shunned and opposed, along with the Repugs. But you can't win by sacrificing on this issue. Why should we make such a tradeoff? We oppose both corporate control and the wars. Cockburn's suggestion isn't pragmatism - it's partial surrender.
Besides, there is no libertarian precept opposing foreign wars. It seems like a quirk of the Pauls more than anything else.
-TIA
I know this keeps being said about DMG, that he's a Democratic Party shill, but I think it grossly overstates his fealty to that party, if he has any at all. Green has been as searingly critical of the Democrats as anyone appearing in CD for over a year. He can sound as uncompromising as Chris Hedges about the Dems, while I haven't noticed the same from Maddow or Olbermann. They really do take a kid gloves approach to Obama and rarely call the Dems out for anything. Mainly, their job seems to be bashing Republicans and rightwing talk media gasbags like Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. They're great at this, but they seem desperate to portray Obama as progressive, despite all evidence to the contrary. DMG can hardly be accused of anything like that. He is easily as disgusted with Obama as anyone on these comment threads. He may not say much about the necessity of promoting left/progressive third party candidates, but he sure as hell isn't some robotic MoveOn or Daily Kos cheerleader for Obama or his useless party. Useless except for its full support for corporatism, that is.
You GO Rachel!!
Maddow has more balls, brains and honesty than anybody in "public life" I can think of with the possible exception of Ralph Nader.
As to the slight criticism Green made, that she didn't call Paul out on his evasions, she's young yet, give her time!
I'll take Rachel Maddow to Barack Obama on his best day, in a New York minute. She is in fact a national treasure. It'll be a cold day in hell before anybody says that about him.
Before you become too carried away in praising the liberal Ms. Maddow, you may wish to keep in mind that she was not nearly as bold in her criticism when she essentially gave Israel a free pass when its military slaughtered about 1400 Palestinians in Gaza about a year and a half ago. Simply another example, it would appear, of how the corporate media is so quick to back Israel at the expense of the Palestinians.
Richard:
I think you're going a bit overboard in your praise for Maddow. It is relatively easy to take on the nutty views of (Ayn) Rand Paul, but I'm still waiting to see Maddow show the same doggedness as a journalist when it comes to the Zionistas.
It may be easy but notice that one else has been doing it to his face. There may be things to complain about in Maddow, but she is by far the best we have in the MSM.
Perhaps we're approaching a time when communitarianism could gain some real political traction in the US. I hope we can have a serious debate in America concerning the emptiness of libertarian thought.
It's funny to watch the "liberal" pundits freaking out over the Rand Paul victory. I notice too, that they never mention the real revolutionary aspect of the Pauls, the thing that all the other republicans mocked derisively during Ron Paul's debates in the 2008 primaries: they want to close all our overseas military bases and end the wars for empire. This alone makes me hope he gets elected. We need voices of dissent in this wasteland of bipartisan consensus. Both parties support endless war. Until we get a real choice in our limited system, I'm for anyone who wants to end the reign of military expansion and adventurism.
There's a big difference from suggesting that the people of Chile, for example, have a right to figure in their own destiny, to suggesting that business owners have a right to discriminate because 'thats their business'.
This is from a Wikipedia article about a book Ron Paul wrote called "The Revolution, a Manifesto"
"The longer Chapters 2–6 each take up a particular political issue in turn. A foreign policy of nonintervention is defended from texts of the Founding Fathers and influential conservatives, and diversely elaborated in relation to al-Qaeda, Iraq, Iran, foreign aid, and Israel. Strict construction of the U.S. Constitution, especially as it establishes states' rights, is defended against signing statements and judicial activism, and employed to affirm declaration of war by Congress, opposition to military conscription, a strongly anti-war and non-interventionist foreign policy, rejection of racism, and Paul's pro-life position. Economic solutions are proposed to abolish the income tax while sustaining Social Security, to restore the previous high-quality American health care system Paul recalls from his career, and to address regulation, free trade, environmentalism, and campaign finance. Paul emphasizes civil liberties as expressed in the American Freedom Agenda Act and warns against dangers of a surveillance state, the War on Drugs, and educational mental health screening. Finally, he employs free-market economics against the Federal Reserve, hyperinflation, the subprime mortgage crisis, and taxes on gold and silver transactions."
I haven't read the book, but I believe he's sincere in his noninterventionism. That, and his position on civil liberties, are what get my support.
anti-war.com is a leading ani-interventionist libertarian site that has made significant contribution to the anti-war movement over these past ten years or more.
The people running anti-war.com don't sound the same as left wing pacifists but they are definitely sincere in their opposition to the military industrial complex.
So the answer to your somewhat uninformed insinuation is Yes there are many sincerely anti-war libertarians.
I remember Lester Maddox, coming out of his restaurant in Georgia with an Ax in his hands, (or was it a gun) to keep the Blacks out. Such a convincing performance that he soon became governor of Georgia beating outt out Jimmy Carter in the Democratic primary. In all of this Lester maintained that he was not a racist and that he in fact had many blacks employed in his restaurant. No, this was a matter of state's rights and personal freedom to run his restaurant as he saw fit. That's all it was, nothing racist at all about it.
That's always the way it is with Libertarians. You don't find them on the front lines fighting for social justice or civil rights. You find them giving excuses to reactionary forces for their bigoted cruel behavior and defending it as personal privilege. And don't let anyone take Lester's gun away. It is his God given right to brandish a gun and threaten to shoot people--libertarians are always defending gun rights, always bringing guns into the discussion as Ran Paul did with Rachael. Well, it got Maddox elected governor of Georgia and it may get Ran Paul elected Senator of Kentucky. I have a suggestion-- if those libertarians in Texas, Kentucky, Georgia chafe so much at having to be a part of a country that wants give its citizens civil rights- let's just let them leave the Union. Good Riddance-- go back to your segregated lunch counters and shoot anyone who tries to stop ya'll.
I agree with both this article and with Alexander Cockburn's criticism on Counter Punch. Taking a good hard look at libertarians and their positions on issues of importance is a good thing. Looking at Rand's position on civil rights is good too but as Cockburn said, there is absolutely NO chance that the Civil Rights Act will be revisited in the foreseeable future, therefore Madow missed a golden opportunity to take a look at his positions on more timely issues, such as war and empire, and also on corporate decisions such as BP's in the Gulf of Mexico and the proper response of government, if any.
I would be very interested in Rand's take on letting the fate of the Gulf of Mexico rest on cost-benefit analysis keyed to the rate of return for BP's shareholders, and I think many Americans would have found that fascinating, had she made that her focus. Let's hope someone puts these issues to him in the near future.
Just do a simple google search for: "Rand Paul OR Ron Paul BP"
and you get links such as this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
id/37273085/ns/politics-decision_2010/
"entucky's Republican Senate nominee Rand Paul criticized President Barack Obama's handling of the Gulf oil spill Friday as anti-business and sounding "really un-American."
Paul's defense of oil company BP PLC came during an interview as he tried to explain his controversial take on civil rights law, an issue that seemed to suddenly swamp his campaign after his victory in Tuesday's GOP primary.
"What I don't like from the president's administration is this sort of, 'I'll put my boot heel on the throat of BP,'" Paul said in an interview with ABC's "Good Morning America." "I think that sounds really un-American in his criticism of business."
Yep, you've put your finger on the flaw in Cockburn's essay. It's impossible to have an alliance with someone who believes in unrestricted corporate power.
That said, it's important to say that mainstream Dem and Repug representatives are little different. They are one with Rand Paul in their hands-off approach to corporations. They get funded by those same corporations, so you get absurdities. For instance, Obama said that ocean oil rigs are foolproof. A few weeks later, the BP rig blows. The Obama administration subsequently issues more offshore oil drilling permits. Is Obama a Randian? In effect, yes. In speech, he sounds different.
Rand Paul's antiwar position is good, but it's just a quirk. Some people thought Obama was antiwar because of a speech he made as a senator, but Obama's overall Dem Party corporate-facing ideology prevailed and we now have a three-front war. With accusations against North Korea, maybe it'll be a four-front war.
-TIA
Yes.
For all the pretty rhetoric, the Pauls are very much corporatists too.
"I think that sounds really un-American in his criticism of business." Who is this...Calvin Coolidge?
Criticism of business is as American as apple pie, Mr. Paul, like it or not, and has a long and distinguished history. Watch who you are calling un-American. But Obama???
Prior Ayn Rand acolytes (like Milton Friedman) had been able to wrought their guru's sociopath teachings because they were smart enough not to advertise.
With his victory in Kentucky's GOP primary, the wackiness that is Objectivism will get something resembling a full airing in mass media...and it will not come off well at all.
Thus the old maxim applies for this crew, "Be careful what you wish for!"
Bill Maher has an excellent quote about libertarianism. "Libertarians are just Republicans who want to get laid and smoke dope". This describes the rank and file. It is the "intellectual" libertarians who are really scary.
Ask him about the FED or how it's working out for the Empire with it,s endless wars and see what he say's.
The author neglects to mention an important set of people, the KY voters themselves. Rand Paul will sound wacky but how many KY voters give a shit about it when they have bigger concerns aside from his comments on yesterday's issues? KY had a chance to see what the Republicans and Democrats were like when governing and maybe Rand Paul addresses some of those concerns as an independent leaning Republican. If you seriously believe that KY voters are gonna listen to Rachel Maddow, then you don't know KY very well. KY may be culturally conservative but the voters are open to economic populism. Are the Democrats putting out their plans and stands or are they waiting for Rand to crash just like this author? Rachel Maddow as it is only exists to restore Obama's progressive mantle everyday. If DMG had paid attention to last year's gubernatorial races in VA and NJ and the US Senate race in MA early this year on top of the recent primary elections, I don't believe that for one second he would have written this worthless article. The KY voters, not Green or Maddow, will decide the fate of Rand Paul !
Similar to MO where I live, KY voters are stuck between a rock and a hard place just like the rest of the electorate. The rest of the country is already with KY on the mess but the electorate has yet to come to grips with it.
I don't believe that KY voters are all Tea Bagger Libertarian types necessarily but they are just as tired of Washington as we are and Rand Paul fits what they are looking for or at least Rand Paul gives them that impression so far. KY has been a deep Republican state for most of the last decade and Obama's performance along with Congress can only compound it. Even in 2006 and 2008, the Democrats couldn't win much in that state and I have no hope of seeing anything different this year in KY.
The part about the mines resonates in Ky and WVa. "Accidents Happen" "Not playing the blame game".
The Libertarian strain has been running through the Greeed wing of the GOP for forty years. It's where the whole deregulation/trickledown/supplyside crap came from, what got US into the pie we're current in.
It's not a complete philosophy, rather, a collection of rationalizations in favor of the Haves keeping theirs and getting yours if they can.
All these comments about the voters in KY neglect the fact that in the Democratic primary, the loser got more votes than Paul did.How does that affect tghe odds of him being the next Senator from KY?
I don't know what to say about both Democratic voters each getting more votes than Rand Paul but November is what is important. With the terrible job Obama and this Congress have done, I do not see how the Democrats could win in KY this year especially after losing big in NJ and MA in Nov 2009 and Jan 2010 respectively. KY has also become more red over the years.
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indeed!
Tens of thousands of Kentucky Republicans voted for a guy who is:
Against sanctions on Iran
Against the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan
Against aid to Isreal.
This is much more important than the hypothetical, and hyperbolic, liberatrian scenarios advanced by Green. None of the latter will ever come to pass.
Spare me the apocalyptic fantasies of libertarian rule. They're not going to happen.
To focus exclusively on Rand's ideological weaknesses is to miss an opportunity to form anti-interventionist alliances across ideological
I know exactly where libertarians stand and have for decades. I've walked a few picket lines and I am in no way pro-libertarian. That doesn't change that fact that Paul's primary victory has the potential to expand "bring 'em home" sentiment to the right.
No leader on the right is ever going to please the Left. That's not their job.
but if there's a prominent figure on the right advocating against the wars and winning elections then that's a good good thing in my book.