G-8 Failure Reflects US Failure on Climate Change
It didn't take long for the counterfeit climate bill known as Waxman-Markey to push back against President Obama's agenda. As the president was arriving in Italy for his first Group of Eight summit, the New York Times was reporting that efforts to close ranks on global warming between the G-8 and the emerging economies had already tanked:
The world's major industrial nations and emerging powers failed to agree Wednesday on significant cuts in heat-trapping gases by 2050, unraveling an effort to build a global consensus to fight climate change, according to people following the talks.
Of course, emission targets in 2050 have limited practical meaning -- present leaders will be dead or doddering by then -- so these differences may be patched up. The important point is that other nations are unlikely to make real concessions on emissions if the United States is not addressing the climate matter seriously.
With a workable climate bill in his pocket, President Obama might have been able to begin building that global consensus in Italy. Instead, it looks as if the delegates from other nations may have done what 219 U.S. House members who voted up Waxman-Markey last month did not: critically read the 1,400-page American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 and deduce that it's no more fit to rescue our climate than a V-2 rocket was to land a man on the moon.
I share that conclusion, and have explained why to members of Congress before and will again at a Capitol Hill briefing on July 13. Science has exposed the climate threat and revealed this inconvenient truth: If we burn even half of Earth's remaining fossil fuels we will destroy the planet as humanity knows it. The added emissions of heat-trapping carbon dioxide will set our Earth irreversibly onto a course toward an ice-free state, a course that will initiate a chain reaction of irreversible and catastrophic climate changes.
The concentration of CO2 in our atmosphere now stands at 387 parts per million, the highest level in 600,000 years and more than 100 ppm higher than the amount at the dawn of the Industrial Revolution. Burning just the oil and gas sitting in known fields will drive atmospheric CO2 well over 400 ppm and ignite a devil's cauldron of melted icecaps, bubbling permafrost, and combustible forests from which there will be no turning back. But if we cut off the largest source of carbon dioxide, coal, we have a chance to bring CO2 back to 350 ppm and still lower through agricultural and forestry practices that increase carbon storage in trees and soil.
The essential step, then, is to phase out coal emissions over the next two decades. And to declare off limits artificial high-carbon fuels such as tar sands and shale while moving to phase out dependence on conventional petroleum as well.
This requires nothing less than an energy revolution based on efficiency and carbon-free energy sources. Alas, we won't get there with the Waxman-Markey bill, a monstrous absurdity hatched in Washington after energetic insemination by special interests.
For all its "green" aura, Waxman-Markey locks in fossil fuel business-as-usual and garlands it with a Ponzi-like "cap-and-trade" scheme. Here are a few of the bill's egregious flaws:
- It guts the Clean Air Act, removing EPA's ability to regulate CO2 emissions from power plants.
- It sets meager targets -- 2020 emissions are to be a paltry 13% less than this year's level -- and sabotages even these by permitting fictitious "offsets," by which other nations are paid to preserve forests - while logging and food production will simply move elsewhere to meet market demand.
- Its cap-and-trade system, reports former U.S. Undersecretary of Commerce for Economic Affairs Robert Shapiro, "has no provisions to prevent insider trading by utilities and energy companies or a financial meltdown from speculators trading frantically in the permits and their derivatives."
- It fails to set predictable prices for carbon, without which, Shapiro notes, "businesses and households won't be able to calculate whether developing and using less carbon-intensive energy and technologies makes economic sense," thus ensuring that millions of carbon-critical decisions fall short.
There is an alternative, of course, and that is a carbon fee, applied at the source (mine or port of entry) that rises continually. I prefer the "fee-and-dividend" version of this approach in which all revenues are returned to the public on an equal, per capita basis, so those with below-average carbon footprints come out ahead.
A carbon fee-and-dividend would be an economic stimulus and boon for the public. By the time the fee reached the equivalent of $1/gallon of gasoline ($115/ton of CO2) the rebate in the United States would be $2000-3000 per adult or $6000-9000 for a family with two children.
Fee-and-dividend would work hand-in-glove with new building, appliance, and vehicle efficiency standards. A rising carbon fee is the best enforcement mechanism for building standards, and it provides an incentive to move to ever higher energy efficiencies and carbon-free energy sources. As engineering and cultural tipping points are reached, the phase-over to post-fossil energy sources will accelerate. Tar sands and shale would be dead and there would be no need to drill Earth's pristine extremes for the last drops of oil.
Some leaders of big environmental organizations have said I'm naïve to posit an alternative to cap-and-trade, and have suggested I stick to climate modeling. Let's pass a bill, any bill, now and improve it later, they say. The real naïveté is their belief that they, and not the fossil-fuel interests, are driving the legislative process.
The fact is that the climate course set by Waxman-Markey is a disaster course. Their bill is an astoundingly inefficient way to get a tiny reduction of emissions. It's less than worthless, because it will delay by at least a decade starting on a path that is fundamentally sound from the standpoints of both economics and climate preservation.
Former Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, who died this week, suffered for 40 years -- as did our country -- from his failure to turn back from a failed policy. As grave as the blunders of the Vietnam War were, the consequences of a failed climate policy will be more severe by orders of magnitude.
With the Senate debate over climate now beginning, there is still time to turn back from cap-and-trade and toward fee-and-dividend. We need to start now. Without political leadership creating a truly viable policy like a carbon fee, not only won't we get meaningful climate legislation through the Senate, we won't be able to create the concerted approach we need globally to prevent catastrophic climate change.
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34 Comments so far
Show AllSuccinct analysis. Hooray for my hero, James Hansen! Not only has he maintained scientific passion for factual data and dispassion for unwarranted conclusions, but he also continues a valient struggle to directly inform us (we, the people) without condescension. He also remains unafraid to speak out privately about upcoming public policy, as all U.S. citizens should be.
When no one else would mention the superior fairness and dependability of a publicly rebated carbon tax, James Hansen has. I might concede that a market-based signal (counter-market) could be applied to coordinate the progress of the cap with that of the economy. Extended globally, such a democratic system could avoid so much corruption and the wasted political wrangling over who and how to pay for every human's adaptation needs.
Cheers to you James E. Hansen. As another has stated, you're "a true American hero."
PS If you'd consider any level of service as an outside member on my midlife TSU Urban Planning-Environmental Policy dissertation committee (topic Local Adaptation Planning for Climate Change; research in public perceptions of risk), I'd be incredibly super grateful. Advice or references also revered. Thanks! --Paul Suckow, Harris County, TX (paul.suckow@csd.hctx.net)
For every one here shouting as this man/comment. This man is no fool and the truth is there is only one real realistic way to prevent disaster happening.
BUT..this will mean the collapse of a lot of bisnesses and industries who are indeed running this world, more then political leaders.
So point one; Obama is in fact doing a good job, but cannot control the power of all these cooperations etc.If he wants to half of the US calls him a socialist bastard or so.
POINT TWO; The USA are responsible (just as China, India or the Middle East etc) because they simply use the most (are the biggest)...or does Henry (above comment) think the Eskimos should clean up all the mess. So..dont act like you dont know US boy...you brought cars and cola...we like it..but dont act like your a fool. And ofcourse..Americans and Europeans are still consuming the most.
China had a GOOD EXCUSE for wlking out...NOT!!!!THAT WAS PLANNED!! India is to troubled too wiping out Tamils etc..but at least they do welcome the D.Lama...and the truth is..they dont have much to spend on it. So us asking them to invest right now after being ignorant for so long is a bit hypocrit maybe.
BUT!! CAN YOU COUNT SUKKAZ!! IF CHINA, INDIA, AMERICA..in fact EVERYBODY does not change its ways..WE BETTER ASK NASA TO SHIP US OVER TO ANOTHER PLANET!
ANY SUGGESTIONS MAYBE!? MAYBE CHINA...or North Korea...now they have rockets too.
The only people you can still talk with over there is the Japanese...the only Country that makes sense over there. Listen to their Scientist!!!!!
THEY WILL TELL WHAT IS COMING! and its bigger than Manga!!
BUT..as said here..China and many others will also want rightfully their share...wich simply means... THE END...
ITS THE END BECAUSE ITS IMPOSSIBLE...NOT ENOUGH ROOM, RESOURCES, CLEAN AIR, FISH ETC....HUMANITY WILL COME TO AN END AS PEOPLE FIGHT FOR THE LAST RESOURCES....A BIBLE LIKE PROPHECY WILL TAKE PLACE...NOT!! because of Obama you fingerpointing morons....BUT BECAUSE OF THE FAILING OF THE WHOLE HUMAN RACE....for instance not listening to people from NASA is very dangerous.
WE DONT USE OUR TALENT AND SCIENCE...WE ARE THE DUMBESTS INSECTS ON THE PLANET!
I DONT EVEN CARE IF tHERE IS ANY PROOF OF DANGER FOR THE CLIMATE...YUST GO TO ANY COUNTRY..AND GO WATCH THE DESTRUCTION OF tHE LANDSCAPE....
PEOPLE WHO DOUBT THE DANGER WE ARE BUILDING FOR MORE THEN HUNDRED YEARS NOW...FILL YOUR GARAGE SLOWLY WITH GAS....STAY THERE FOR TO LONG...BREATHE DEEPLY...AND DONT WAKE UP FROM HELL!!!
##!!!! WE NEED TO CRUSH..... THEY WONT GO AWAY!!
BELIEVE IN YOUR DREAMS!!!!!!!!
DESTROY THIS GREY FUTURE BY DESTROYING THOSE WHO POISON US...WITH ALL MEANS NESCESARY!!!!
ANOTHER 20 YEARS IS ALREADY DEADLY!!!
BUT..as i said...hahaha..NATURE WIIL BRING YOU ALL DOWN!!
Think you can rule this world SUKKAZ!
I HOPE TO SEE YOU OIL-BISNESS MEN DROWN IN YOUR OWN WASTE!
ONLY FOOLS BELIEVE IN NUCLEAR POWER....maybe one day...when the Human Race is ready and SMART enough to handle such powers...yust like flying around...its so safe...so sit in a smartiebox with wings...
STOP BLAMING OBAMA....DO IT YOURSELF!! And yes...its better to put this bill out even if it seems worthless now...because the Future is unwritten!!!
Most of you scum arent even willing to free a bird from its cage!
ONE LOVE to those who studie and warn us! PEACE
As governments diddle the world burns; meanwhile by 2050 another exponential growth of the human poplation brings that up to 25,000,000,000 people, give or take 3,000,000,000.
Shoot, the planet can handle that and just think of all that money to made from that many people who will be able to extract even more of the natural resources of the planet and somewhere in there the natural resources will be the shit one takes and turns around and burns that.
There Is No Alternative
"To what?"
"We rise up en masse."
"Otherwise?"
"Dommsday?"
"Based on?"
"Perpetual war + global warming + economic collapse."
Conservatives will kill us for money.
and liberals won't? puh-lease.
No, just those who money turned conservative.
you know cee miracles addictions will kill those who don't get them under control? might kill us too.keep up the good work
james you hae been a real american hero albeit a much
under reported one.and folks remember one thing in america.
ITS ALWAYS ABOUT THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama is a FAILURE!
Don't you people realize that the America is a FAILED STATE NOW? That any other country would be under the control of the IMF and World Bank right now? Wake Up because America has Failed and you still want those who allowed it to fail to Fix It for Ya! Man, you people are DUMB!
Liberals and Progressives are very impotent.
Stop BITCHING IF YOU REMAIN IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. ANYONE BITCHING HERE TODAY WHO DOES NOT JOIN THE GREEN PARTY IS JUST YELLING AND COMPLAINING IN VAIN WITH YOUR USUAL FAKE Liberal/Progressive WHINE(ING). STOP IT BECAUSE IT HAS BECOME TIRING LISTENING TO YOU FAKE Liberal/Progressives who actually thought Obama or that the Demnocratic Party---also a party of the military-corporate state was gonna bring any real "change." You so-called Liberals/Progressives have become very pathetic!
The Democratic Party is not an ally of Liberals and Progressives so get into some reality.
Obama is not a Liberal/Progressive but the newest face on the fading of the American Empire.
Obama's healthcare plan can be equated with a euthansia plan and the sooner you knuckleheads face this harsh reality the better off you will be. Get your heads out of your butts! Face facts folks--Obama and Biden are war mongers who back the military-corporatist state and most Democrats in the U.S. House and Senate are conservatives, and not liberals or progressives.
Until the next time, I am sure all of you will keep busy in those Democratic Party delusions and yes the illusion that Obama is such a "great leader."
Obama being an "environmentalist" is like saying the Mafia never killed anyone.
Obama is not trustworthy and you dolts keep thinking he will achieve substantial changes in the failed political system.
J A M E $ __ H A N $ E N,
Is obviously obliviously a pathetic shill of bankster corpo-rapers of the world.
N O T I C E : How subtly he revises the erroneous decades long claims of
_____ Global "WARMING"
to
_____ Global "CLIMATE CHANGE"
_____ ( see for example the article's title )
Wake up people
… you are being had, as the real science is now conclusively indicating Gloabal "COOLING", so instead of truthfully admitting that their whimsical climate modeling is seriously incomplete and flawed, by being 180 degrees from reality and actual temperature trends -----
they slyly and slickly switch arguments ( and the focus of their steaming banter ) in mid stream from exaggerated claims of GLOBAL CLIMATE :
_____ W A R M I N G
to
_____ C H A N G E ( now that it's really C O O L I N G )
N.
Gimme a break! Hansen is scienist, professor and public servant who stepped up to the plate and bucked both Clinton and Bush administrations when he realized a serious problem. Agree with his science and suggestions or not, he is a brave and honest man.
Gimme a break! Hansen is scienist, professor and public servant who stepped up to the plate and bucked both Clinton and Bush administrations when he realized a serious problem. Agree with his science and suggestions or not, he is a brave and honest man.
When a shameful sham like Waxman/Markey is touted by our fearless leaders as an enviornmental bill whaen any fool can see its nothing but an energy tax, why would anyone expect other countries leaders to pay any attention to us.
I would also ask when we were appointed to accept responsibility for this problem? Why aren't India and China, Europe bringing their own, real proposals?
Europe is already doing far far more than the US, on their own. European countries are are actually trying to meet their obligations under the Kyoto treaty. For example, the UK, which isn't exactly a shining paragon of environmentalism, is projected to meet its obligations under Kyoto.
And both China and India produce far lower amounts of greenhouse gases relative to the US, per capita, that is adjusted for population size.
The US has been "appointed" to accept responsibility for the problem, because the US is by far the largest per capita producer of greenhouse gases. And because the US continues to insist on engaging in idiotic magic bullet, white knight in shining armour, "solutions" such as "clean" coal.
China and India's per capita emissions are far less than ours. It's ridiculous to ask them to do anything until we make a serious effort of our own.
The problem is that we weren't appointed to do anything. We are the largest emmiter by far per capita. The problem with Waxman/Markey is that it isn't an energy tax. A serious energy tax is just what is needed.
Hey Hank:
The purpose of Waxman-Markey is to get the conservation, renewables, GHG reduction snowball going. With enough stewardship, it should work while creating jobs and minimal cost to the consumer. Dr. Hansen has his points, especially about the pace of GHG reduction, but he needs to change course and help make this legislation work.
Regarding responsibility, we are the second largest GHG producer (the largest for many years), and essentially the highest per capita. China may already be doing more than we are, espcially if you include nuclear. India is just being effing stupid. That country has more to lose than almost anyone.
Why does America take the lead invading and occupying a sovereign nation to secure its oil wealth (when it was completely unecessary and illegal), but hide behind China and India instead of taking leadership on a real global problem?
A must read for the most astounding, deliberate criminal
wickedness for decades is Matt Taibbi's THE GREAT AMERICAN BUBBLE MACHINE, appearing in ROLLING STONE this past month.
Available on this link:
www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23009.htm
"From tech stocks to high gas prices, Goldman Sachs has engineered every major market manipulation since the Great Depression - and they're about to do it again."
That word AGAIN refers to AMERICAN BUBBLE #6 just around the bend. [The first 5 ought to get you going!]
"BUBBLE #6 - GLOBAL WARMING
"Fast-Forward to today. It's early June in Washington, D.C. Barack Obama, a popular young politician whose leading private campaign donor was an investment bank called Goldman Sachs - its employees paid some $981,000 to his campaign - sits in the White House. Having seamlessly navigated the political minefield of the bailout era, Goldman is once again back to its old business, scouting out loopholes in a new government-created market with the aid of a new set of alumni occupying key government jobs."
"AS ENVISIONED BY GOLDMAN, THE FIGHT TO STOP GLOBAL WARMING WILL BECOME A "CARBON MARKET" WORTH $1 TRILLION A YEAR."
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Read the history of all the BUBBLES [Housing, Tech, etc.], and the callous, conscienceless, remorseless, dishonesty that has screwed us all and will continue to do so and very likely destroy the earth in the process.
We must understand that we are dealing with a special animal/special animals -- PSYCHOPATHS. Among other things, their genetically different brains are short on or absent of emotional affect so matters of human decency and feelings of compassion, kindness, justice, and so forth, are not not in their equation if they can pull off deals that mean profits for them. The human suffering that results is of no consideration or concern to them.
An elderly friend of mine believes we have been taken over by Aliens. For all I know she could be right. But PSYCHOPATHS are aliens of a sort as what's missing are those very important qualities that are the celebratory aspects of humans, both at their most ordinary and at their best -- Basic Human Decency which involves conscience, and normal human feelings.
And then there are those totally ADDICTED to the gambling aspects of "the deals," and they like their life-style, old money or nouveau riche, and have never examined or identified with or much thought about their connection with John & Jane Doe and how what they are doing affects the very lives of those folks. Serious ADDICTIONS include or result in Spiritual and Moral Bankruptcy. So anything that you can get away with goes. To manage addictions, serious, committed REHAB is needed, but if life is really great money- and position-wise, the chances are that ain't gonna' happen anytime soon.
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THE GREAT AMERICAN BUBBLE MACHINE is quite detailed and is worth reading carefully and perhaps several times. Personally, again I am horrified, outraged and feeling betrayed and sick in my soul that all that I believed and kept faith with is really, really, really down the tubes.
A good number of those running our government and who have run our government definitely need to be behind bars for life. However, Corporate Power and lots of hard, cold cash seems to have more power than our Justice System.
Will it ever happen? Justice? Will WE THE PEOPLE continue to bleat in the meadow as the storms crash around us waiting for the Shepherds to lead us back to the safety of the barn? Will WE THE PEOPLE continue to be part of the packs of lemmings running headlong down toward the sea and over the cliff? Will WE THE PEOPLE find those qualities within ourselves that will help us use our wits, our imaginations and at a certain point our strength to plant our feet and take a stand as individuals, as communities, as a nation of citizens who have had quite enough??? ... Regardless???
At this point, it's anyone's guess.
Plaudits to James Hansen for his relentless courage to continue to pursue and provide us with The Truth.
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Hansen's right -- 'cap-and-trade' is a disgrace. The fee-and-dividend system he advocates is the only approach that makes sense. Too much sense for Congress... apparently.
Totally agree. A few weeks ago I would have promoted cap n trade, as a 'capitalist market based' approach to the climate crisis. But now, having seen how such markets are horribly gamed by the well connected (read: WallStreet), I'm in favor, as with Hansen, with a simply ungameable fee-and-dividend approach.
Why do our politicians all over the planet have to get so uppity about climate change? Why don't I just give Governor Jindal a call and ask him to issue an executive order to shut off the oil supplies from the state and see what happens in a week when other states follow suit too.
Bennett Miller
Shreveport, LA
Of course we can't presently live without oil, but it didn't need to be this way. Did you know Louisiana was where some of the best wave energy conversion designs were first developed? Increasingly, that is the 'road not taken', but we should have taken it because this is a serious problem, as is our dependence on foreign oil.
The Pickens Plan is a good one to utilize wind energy in the MidWest, drive our vehicles on natural gas, and reduce both global warming and foreign oil dependence.
One-eighth of the land area of Arizona gets enough sunlight to power the entire United States by itself. Put in a solar thermal power plant (parabolic aluminized mylar mirrors focusing sunlight on pipes holding molten salt, driving a steam turbine), and you have base power: available whether the sun is shining or not (the salt can be stored underground). Nothing high-tech, or 'out there'. Just a repeated failure of will. And powerful oil and coal interests are committed to maintaining that failure.
One more: 100 miles of California's 1200 mile coastline gets enough wave power to power the entire state by itself. Wave energy converters from Scotland and Australia are available at reasonable cost to effect this conversion. Those wave energy converters are NOT from Louisiana because of people like your governor. Indeed, America is conspicuously absent from ANY alternative energy designs. If we adopt the Pickens Plan we'll have to pay the Europeans $$$ for THEIR windmills, cuz we're too short-sighted to have our own.
"we'll have to pay the Europeans $$$ for THEIR windmills, cuz we're too short-sighted to have our own"
California has over 16,000 wind turbines with a total generating capacity of 1700 MW.
No, California apparently has more: at about 2600 MW installed capacity. But guess what? Texas leads the country - with a capacity of about 7900 MW and Iowa with 2800 MW of wind power. Who would have thunk, huh?
While the total installed wind power capacity in the U.S. is over 25,000 MW, China (4th largest producer of wind power, after the U.S., Germany, Spain) has about 12,000 MW and India (5th largest producer) has about 9500 MW - so everyone is catching up.
That IS fantastic. But WHOSE windmills?
The best ones, of the highest MW, are all European designs.
"If we adopt the Pickens Plan we'll have to pay the Europeans $$$ for THEIR windmills, cuz we're too short-sighted to have our own."
I would suggest it's not a case of short sightedness. I would suggest you look directly to our trade policies for the reason. Its quite clear if you take the cost/profit factor into consideration.
"Did you know Louisiana was where some of the best wave energy conversion designs were first developed? Increasingly, that is the 'road not taken', but we should have taken it because this is a serious problem, as is our dependence on foreign oil."
There have been plenty of good ideas and even politicians here in this state despite decades of political corruption. I do know about the designs but since we live in a brutally capitalist society where profits matter without regards for the well being of our environment or us in general, I'm not surprised that the designs went the way of former governor Huey Lang.
Our state government did finally come somewhat clean of granting money for researching into biofuel development because here's the dirty truth about oil drilling and LA. All this black gold we dug up is a curse given the high cancer rates from all those chemicals released into the air and later the hurricanes and flooding due to the resulting weaker land. The only people who benefitted were the oil men and even then there were lots of racial tensions and disputes. I'll consider myself lucky to be living in Shreveport where the economy isn't as bad as the rest of the state.
On CA, I'm sorry to hear about the governor denying CA the designs but I doubt that it wouldn't be any different regardless of governor of LA. I'm not surprised that America is conspicuously absent from ANY alternative energy designs. I blame this largely on capitalism ruthlessly putting profit before anything else regardless of the long term side effects. And if that ain't enough, there's always the hicks who'll froth and hiss if you try to bring up solar and wind and try to talk them out of dependence on oil. I've seen mentally retarded shouts such as "I want my oil cheap and I want it NOW NOW NOW ! Please take your stupid solar panels and wind turbines to a commie land !"
Bennett Miller
Shreveport, LA
Are you speaking of hick's like Ted Kennedy that wouldn't allow wind turbines off his coast because they would spoil his view? Or enviornmentalists in California who feel the same about wind turbines or wave generation?
They're another set of hicks. The ones I'm talking about are our own in the state of LA. Not every hick despises solar and wind but a lot of them do. Even today, trying to get them to think outside fossil fuels is stressfully difficult. Inside Shreveport, there's some understanding but once you step outside of it, none whatsoever. Are you sure that the environmentalists in CA are against wind turbines and wave generation because I thought that they weren't ??
Bennett Miller
Shreveport, LA
I live in Texas, and boy do I know what you're talking about. I'm surrounded by Bubba, and he thinks all that solar and wind stuff is just a tree hugger's pipe dream. Most disappointingly, we have a new mayor in San Antonio, Julian Castro, who was the cleanest city council member we ever had, with no record ever of any campaign donations from developers or oil companies. I loved everything about every idea he ever spoke of. I almost died of heartbreak when, in the final weeks of his mayoral campaign, he started talking about expanding nuclear energy in Texas. I wondered who got to him.
I actually support nuclear. Its just that the AGW issue is potent and present. However, the 'money' that supports the nuclear energy option is based on the fact that nuclear has a fuel, and where these monopolists make their money is in controlling the fuel. If we could figure out a way that a true alternative energy would have a FUEL, that could be controlled, overpriced, manipulated, commodity-traded, etc, then we'd have alternative energy in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, what distinguishes all the true alternative energy items is that their fuel is free and plentiful.
Maybe we could figure out a way to turn sunlight into a commodity. I guarantee that the people who control Washington would be onto alternative energy in a flash.
Most Democrats do this all the time. First they talk about clean energy. But then when you get a few pages into the details, they talk about the need for more oil drilling, coal mining, and nuclear plants for energy and they even buy into the propaganda that demand for fossil fuels and nuclear energy will go up. I voted for Brian Moran in the gubenatorial primaries and he voiced his opposition to mountaintop removal, offshore oil drilling, and installing too many nuclear power plants. Unfortunately, Creigh Deeds won and he stands solidly with Obama on mountaintop removal which is going to not only ruin the health and lives of those in WV and western VA but will spread out and push the healthcare costs high. He's also open to more oil and gas drilling. He calls his package "smarterenergy". Here's his link to his plan:
http://www.deedsforvirginia.com/media/SmarterEnergy.pdf
See page 6. It makes me skittish everytime he says he proudly stands with Obama.
Otherwise, I was willing to accept the rest of the pages.
Mountaintop removal is a crime and will be seen as such in the future. These people should be worried about being put in jail for their actions. It's especially galling that instead of tunneling for coal, they are going to destroy entire landscapes for an energy source that CLEARLY is OVER.
Imagine shooting a girl after raping her. What an effing waste.
If the supporters of MTR really want to know the consequences, they should look back at states like mine where the cancer rates and healthcare costs are way above the roof and the overall poverty in the state stays high as can be all thanks to decades of reckless oil drilling which is also responsible for weakening the land long term to hurricanes and flooding. Now in the case of MTR, we're talking about coal and that's even more dangerous. In theory, nuclear is supposed to be not as dangerous but the radioactive wastes and the fact that nuclear power needs more water to operate and cannot afford to be stuck in drought prone areas is itself a major concern. Other than that, reusing the nuclear fuel looks promising but I believe that there's a bright and dark side to it. I'll need to look up the details on reusing nuclear waste.
Bennett Miller
Shreveport, LA
Jumps to an early lead for dumbest comment of the week!!