Spreading the Wealth Around? Why Not?
According to the Republican candidate for U.S. president, John McCain, whose family wealth exceeds $120 million, and who owns eight houses and thirteen cars, Democrat Barack Obama poses a grave threat to our democracy and economy because he will, as he told a voter in Ohio, "spread the wealth around."
Though socialism has been essentially dead for decades, and there is no viable left in the United States, the McCain campaign is resurrecting claims of "class warfare" and calling Obama a radical. On one point, McCain is right: there is class warfare in the United States, and for the past three decades, it has been waged from the top down, by the wealthiest class, the likes of John and Cindy McCain, against the middle- and working-classes of America.
Since the 1970s, middle- and working-class Americans have seen a fairly steady decline in real income, with brief spurts of recovery in the 1990s. Overall, however, the trend has been downward. By the year 2000, average net worth for Americans, adjusted for inflation, was less than it had been in 1983.
Subsequently, propelled by tax cuts for America's wealthiest and deregulation of financial markets and corporations, between 2001 and 2006 the average income of the top tenth of Americans increased about 15 percent a year, to about $250,000, while the average income of the lower 90 percent decreased, the first time since such data was first collected in 1917 that those conditions of increased wealth at the top and decline for everyone else had occurred. More to the point, the average income of the top tenth of wage earners is about 8 times greater than the bottom 90 percent, a wealth gap greater than that under Herbert Hoover during the Great Depression.
Since the mid-1970s the top 1 percent of households have doubled their share of national wealth and now have more wealth, 60 percent or more, than the bottom 95 percent. Meantime, in the late 1980s and 1990s, inflation-adjusted net worth for a median household fell, from about $55 to $50 thousand dollars, and about 20 percent of households had zero or negative net worth [more debt than assets]. Those numbers are growing rapidly, especially as home foreclosures reach record heights.
Again adjusting for inflation, weekly wages for workers were down over 12 percent from the early 1970s, when that notable liberal Richard Nixon, who instituted wage and price controls to combat the recession of 1973, was president. Indeed, the Nixon years may have marked the heyday for American workers, as family incomes today are about the same as they were in the early 1970s and far more families have two wage-earners than they did thirty-five years ago.
Today, about two-thirds of Americans make less than $50,000 per year. The bottom 40 percent of Americans controls just 0.2 percent of wealth; the next 40 percent has about 15 percent of national wealth; the next 10 percent owns about 13 percent of wealth; and the top tenth has the rest.
Once could continue with such statistics ad infinitum but the point is obvious. Unless one lives in the rarified air of the top ten percent, she or he has experienced an economic downturn over the past decades, and a particularly acute decline in wealth in the past 8 years. That, of course, does not even take account of the current economic disasters in housing, credit and in the stock market, as jobs are lost and pensions are disappearing. Most families now survive by going deeper into debt and household debt as a percentage of personal income has risen from about 60 percent in the early 1970s to about 90 percent, and is increasing, today.
Given such stark data, and the drastic decline in income and wealth for nine-tenths of Americans, the idea of having state policies and a tax system to "spread the wealth around" is simply a recognition that our current economy has collapsed, as if the housing bubble and stock market eruptions haven't shown us that yet anyway. Too few people hold the overwhelming share of our national wealth, and the vast majority of Americans have to survive by using a credit card, not simply for "luxuries," as the conservative canard goes, but to pay for food, rent, and medical care.
Rather than complain about "class warfare," John McCain should recognize his privilege and promote policies that would make his family, his class cronies, and American corporations, especially those who ship jobs overseas, pay their fair share -- not seek more tax cuts for those who have already gotten rich at the government trough. And if that involves "spreading the wealth around," then it's long overdue.
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Show AllThe answer is simple:
TAX THE RICH!
Excuse me, but isn't Miss Sarah a "socialist??" I mean, didn't she take from the rich - Oil/Gas Companies in Alaska - and give out checks to the poor - well, really every citizen of Alaska, not just those in lower income brackets.
Is that not true? That's what she's been bragging about for months - little Ms.
Socialist Robbin' Hood.
...The agricultural aspect is but one here at my perch in the middle of this America. There is anger and there is ire, bred from the fact that the days of the golden watch are long, long gone. My Grandpa worked 12-14 hour days in South St. Louis City at an aluminum plant. The pay was dismal and the labor was intense, but he was still able to take care of his family. Granted, there wasn't a pot to p*** in or a window to throw it out of, but they were never without the necessities. Today, that very same job does not pay enough to support a family, does not come with the knowledge that if you work hard for the company they will not toss you out. If lucky, you are union but your benefits are scant and your pension has gone the way of the ever evaporating 401k.
The people I know here are p***** off at the fact that the working people that perform the labor that is necessary to make our nation function day to day-the plumbers, electricians, truckers, nurses, teachers, construction workers, etc.-are disregarded, to be paid lip service and used as props whenever an election rolls around (and both parties can be faulted here). These people are the real backbone of our society, and exist without regard to geography or political affiliation. Try to think of your life without the ability to call a plumber or electrician in a snap, without a nurse looking you over at the doctor or caring for your elderly parent, without a teacher there to help your child on their way to a better future, without the trucker that spends weeks away from their family so that the goods you need end up at your local market. Honest work means very little at this point, and the folks that make your daily routine a possibility have seen their prospects erode; people who are skilled tradepersons know that the money is in the four year degree and the suit and tie. In my experience, they do not begrudge people whom have gone to school and work in an office their right to work hard and support their families, but take umbrage at the conflicting narratives of honest work for honest pay and neoclassical economic theory.
I apologize for this rant, but I really feel that the people I have talked about exist in a large degree as abstractions, useful to hold up as the heart and soul of the American experience but easily relegated to the shadows when their benefit is outlived.
The next time you have the chance, thank a plumber, a trucker, a teacher or nurse. Whatever else happens, they will always be there when you need them, and that is a valuable quality that is all too rare to find.
Here in the heartland (I'm in St. Louis, grew up in a small farming town in IL, just outside the city) our farmers break their backs everyday to put food on the tables all across this nation. If you don't have any experience with farming, it is toilsome, back breaking and dangerous. My town sits on the IL side of the Mississippi River, and while the land is rich, it is an annual crapshoot to see if your fields will be underwater, or conversely, if a nasty drought will force you to take heavy cuts in your yields. The best part of living in "America's Breadbasket" is that every year, my vegetarian arse can visit the small stands set up by the farmers that I have known literally all of my life and pick up produce still warm from the sun shining on the fields. You have never really had a tomato unless you have eaten one still dusty from it's cradle in the soil.
The fact is that in my 28 years on this marble, I have watched as the fields have shifted to crops that are heavily subsidized-corn and soybeans especially. I have seen the small family farms-these people who know me by who I am "from home" and always inquired into the well-being of my Granny and Grandpa-either consumed by "big box" corporate farms or simply shuttered because the costs of the harvests have gutted the ability to remain profitable...
It's a simple matter of starting over. Start again in the new vision and live simply. No society can stand without a strong foundation. America's foundation, it's middle class, is crumbling. It's replacement culture, the green culture, is in formation. Absent a global warming extinction event, it will survive.
While we're at it we could spread the power around, too.
FREE AMERICA
REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY
Gosh, I "love" it when Republicans and conservatives accuse Obama of socialism and redistributing wealth while the GOP has been redistributing wealth from the bottom to the top since Reagan which has destroyed America's economy in the end.
Nonetheless they have the insolence to call others socialists who don't agree with them.
I think people are beginning to get that on the gut level now. Even through the MSM spin machine, people know they're being screwed. For example, you notice how quick the rich get bailed out when they cry, but how long it takes to get a "stimulus package" to the rest of sheeple? Then when it finally arrives, they get less than expected (the poor get virtually nothing). Class warfare has been going on for quite some time now, and the elites knew we'd be all too glad to participate in our own demise. While we were busy envying our neighbor who got the better car or hating them for the color of their skin, the rich and powerful were taking us to the cleaners, and we were all to too glad to let them. Polarization and fear work quite well on the ignorant masses--until they get hungry and turn their gaze upward. This same pattern of revolution has occurred over and over throughout history, but we never seem to learn.
What is it that the Republicans spread around? Oh yeah, poverty!
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Socialism isn't about "spreading the wealth around". It's about who controls the means of wealth creation. It's a matter of the expropriation of workplaces, not of their finished product. Don't trust me: look up the word on dictionary.com and read the first definition.
Mr. Buzzanco does a much better job than most Common Dreams authors of not explicitly endorsing the typical strawman version of socialism as "spreading the wealth". (The only comment he makes re:socialism is that it "has been dead for decades", which is undoubtedly true). I thank him for his honesty, especially since his own sympathies seem to lie more with liberalism than with radicalism.
But then the user comments conflate socialism with welfare capitalism over and over and over. If we are leftists, then let's get our own history straight...even the parts we don't agree with, or don't draw inspiration from, yet.
"Republican business owners create jobs"? Hardly. Most would willingly ship your job overseas, rather then pay you a higher wage.
"Money trickles down". No it doesn't. This is the biggest lie in the GOP book. Money concentrates at the top. And repug business owners use those profits to start new businesses, and build new junk, and create false demand for that junk that you don't need, and raise your cost of living. Capitalism only has one goal; to GET your money.
And if they are too lazy to make real junk, then they just as well will sell you junk on paper, like a sucker.
Sure the Republicans create jobs and let their wealth trickle down - to the workers of China!
At least John McCain achieved the male great American Dream: Married a GPoA whose father is a beer distributor.
When I first started posting on political sites years ago, someone damned me as a secular humanist who advocated the redistribution of wealth. I failed to see the insult in that description at the time, and still don't.
Until this country is stuck in a long term GREAT GREAT Depression and finally realizes it, there'll be more selfish losers railing against socialism even when they blindly support pols who perform corporate socialism behind their backs. Just ask the conservative trolls on this form and they'll admit it even as they try to deny it.
I see only one problem with sharing the wealth, a great deal of it is nothing but worthless paper.
Rickster
I can no longer afford it. I keep telling the organizations that I give to every year, "not this year, times are bad".
And so I wonder why all these organizations etc. are always relying on real Americans to help support them.... agencies like the American Red Cross for example. So all you agencies out there, give these rich folks a call, and lets see if they really love America or NOT? They hate America with a vengeance! But, they will covet everything you own, even if the consequences cost a citizen his life. Wakethe hell up America!
Maybe the Dictator of AmeriKa should ask them to go fucking shopping! Now where in the fuck did I hear that mantra before?
"It is logical. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."
Spock (The Wrath of Khan)
Or in this case: "The needs of the many outweigh the WANTS of the few." However, greed and selfishness dictates that some are more in entitled than others.
"Trickle-down" voodoo economics was supposed to be about "sharing the wealth". Now the GOP (Of the rich, For the rich, By the rich) are screaming blue bloody murder about sharing the wealth. Hmmphh.
So if Obama is "spreading the wealth around", despite things like voting for the largest corporate welfare bill in the history of the country, then you would have to say Bush did the same with his rebate checks (although at the time, progressive were calling them petty bribes).
It's time for some class warfare from the bottom up.
That may happen before long, but they sense they have to throw the sheeple a bone, so Bernake is suggesting another 'economic stimulus package.' Or maybe they just want us to shop for Christmas!
Buy ammo w/stimulus.
Didn't John just vote for the biggest social bail out in history when he voted for the seven hundred billion dollar bail out for his rich friends in banks and lending firms, created by the Republicans and Bush and Cheney? Maybe he needs to be reminded of it and any one else that has forgotten that. He makes no sense and neither does his running mate. They spew hate every chance they can.
What's wrong with spreading the wealth around. They make it sound disgusting. The people they are talking to don't even realize it like maybe they would actually be better off with Obama's tax plan.
I guess that none of you realize the corporate socialism rampant in the U.S. The U.S. Guv is owned lock stock and barrel by the corporate oligarchy.
A government 'controlled by/run for' the benefit of corporations used to be known by another name - 'FASCISM'.
The remark that socialism has been dead for decades is an odd one - is the author not aware of what is going on in South America?
But, I do find the whole idea of these rabid brownshirts screaming "socialist" at anyone who would utter "spread the wealth" to be pretty comical. If this were true, Presidents Johnson ("War of Poverty", "Great Society") and Nixon (wage and price controls) were right over there with Lenin, and modern-day Europe would be to the left of Ernesto "Che" Guevara.
But it is odd these Joes don't notise how workers in countries that adopt such socialist measures always seem to enjoy the best living standard.
They never see that.
All the see are "christian aid" commercials depicting the entire brown population of the World living in mud huts in total poverty.
Plus they measure the quality of their lives by aquisition of things not living standards that would include things like health or welfare -especially not education.
They've got their ATV and cable TV and a big truck and plenty of beer -they don't care that they live in a shack (called mobile or modular homes in U.S.) and haven't seen a GP doctor since they were 12 and got their physicals for Junior High Football.
This house crisis may just radicalize them a bit though. Hugh proportions of the real economy and working-class labor is engaged in the suburban housing buildout -building'em, furnishing'em, paying for'em, and working the roads, power lines, telecommunications lines, and other infrastructure that maintains'em.
In the little town where I live, most of the gainfully-employed men are in contsruction, most of that is on residential homes, most of which are for exurban Seattlites. They are all used to going on unemployment in the Winter. Most of them have no real wealth. And those that do mostly have truck- and home-loans that they have no hope of maintaining with out steady work (building exurban houses) from April till October.
Next year, a large proportion of them are very unlikely to have that steady work. I think this situation may be even more advanced in many other parts of the country.
What will these guys do then?
And how can we influence them?
These should be some of the questions on our minds as this "credit crunch" and "housing-bubble burst" progress in their affects on the real economy over the next period.
Don't Panic,
-matti.
Unemployment? Isn't that socialism? Yet these truck-drivin' real 'muricans will vote as right-wing as they wanna be...
"They've got their ATV and cable TV and a big truck and plenty of beer -they don't care that they live in a shack..."
Or have access to good food, culture, travel, time off for vacation, time to pursue a real hobby or personal sport (destroying the wild lands in that fucking "quad" doesn't count). I don't want to sound snobbish, but the popular tastes of most US workers in the suburbs or rural areas are stunningly stereotypical. They all involve the collections of fossil-fuel consuming things - often expensive things bought with debt - that fed a sort of instant gratification, rather than hobbies that develop a skill or knowledge - and are usually a lot cheaper. I fly hang gliders, and in spite of the relatively low cost compared to a quad or a motorcycle, and safer equipment than ever, the sport is going practically extinct in the US.
Meanwhile all these more involved pastimes are extremely popular in socialistic Europe.
And I'm far from a nature expert, but I've always found it comical how most of us us socialism loving city-slickers can also identify far more tree, birds, wildflowers or stars in the sky than the average ATV riding rural redneck.
This is a rather comical contention on McCain's part considering Guv-Mint is re-distributing massive quantities of money from the responsible to the financially irresponsible!
(That is, presuming we ever pay enough taxes to pay for all this.)
I hereby dub this new Socialism -- "No Bank Left Behind"
A Dictatorship of workers against the right-wingers of Exxon, Shell, Wal Mart, Bank of America and the corporate sector: which is what we need in USA
http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1920/terrcomm/ch02.htm
Marx and Engels hammered out the idea of the dictatorship of the proletariat, which Engels stubbornly defended in 1891, shortly before his death – the idea that the political autocracy of the proletariat is the “sole form in which it can realize its control of the state.”
That is what Kautsky wrote about ten years ago. The sole form of power for the proletariat he considered to be not a Socialist majority in a democratic parliament, but the political autocracy of the proletariat, its dictatorship. And it is quite clear that, if our problem is the abolition of private property in the means of production, the only road to its solution lies through the concentration of State power in its entirety in the hands of the proletariat, and the setting up for the transitional period of an exceptional regime – a regime in which the ruling class is guided, not by general principles calculated for a prolonged period, but by considerations of revolutionary policy.
The dictatorship is necessary because it is a case, not of partial changes, but of the very existence of the bourgeoisie. No agreement is possible on this ground. Only force can be the deciding factor. The dictatorship of the proletariat does not exclude, of course, either separate agreements, or considerable concessions, especially in connection with the lower middle class and the peasantry. But the proletariat can only conclude these agreements after having gained possession of the apparatus of power, and having guaranteed to itself the possibility of independently deciding on which points to yield and on which to stand firm, in the interests of the general Socialist task.
Kautsky now repudiates the dictatorship of the proletariat at the very outset, as the “tyranny of the minority over the majority.” That is, he discerns in the revolutionary regime of the proletariat those very features by which the honest Socialists of all countries invariably describe the dictatorship of the exploiters, albeit masked by the forms of democracy.
Abandoning the idea of a revolutionary dictatorship, Kautsky transforms the question of the conquest of power by the proletariat into a question of the conquest of a majority of votes by the Social-Democratic Party in one of the electoral campaigns of the future. Universal suffrage, according to the legal fiction of parliamentarism, expresses the will of the citizens of all classes in the nation, and, consequently, gives a possibility of attracting a majority to the side of Socialism. While the theoretical possibility has not been realized, the Socialist minority must submit to the bourgeois majority. This fetishism of the parliamentary majority represents a brutal repudiation, not only of the dictatorship of the proletariat, but of Marxism and of the revolution altogether. If, in principle, we are to subordinate Socialist policy to the parliamentary mystery of majority and minority, it follows that, in countries where formal democracy prevails, there is no place at all for the revolutionary struggle. If the majority elected on the basis of universal suffrage in Switzerland pass draconian legislation against strikers, or if the executive elected by the will of a formal majority in Northern America shoots workers, have the Swiss and American workers the “right” of protest by organizing a general strike? Obviously, no. The political strike is a form of extra-parliamentary pressure on the “national will,” as it has expressed itself through universal suffrage. True, Kautsky himself, apparently, is ashamed to go as far as the logic of his new position demands. Bound by some sort of remnant of the past, he is obliged to acknowledge the possibility of correcting universal suffrage by action. Parliamentary elections, at all events in principle, never took the place, in the eyes of the Social-Democrats, of the real class struggle, of its conflicts, repulses, attacks, revolts; they were considered merely as a contributory fact in this struggle, playing a greater part at one period, a smaller at another, and no part at all in the period of dictatorship.
In 1891, that is, not long before his death, Engels, as we just heard, obstinately defended the dictatorship of the proletariat as the only possible form of its control of the State. Kautsky himself more than once repeated this definition. Hence, by the way, we can see what an unworthy forgery is Kautsky’s present attempt to throw back the dictatorship of the proletariat at us as a purely Russian invention.
Who aims at the end cannot reject the means. The struggle must be carried on with such intensity as actually to guarantee the supremacy of the proletariat. If the Socialist revolution requires a dictatorship – ”the sole form in which the proletariat can achieve control of the State” – it follows that the dictatorship must be guaranteed at all cost.
To write a pamphlet about dictatorship one needs an ink-pot and a pile of paper, and possibly, in addition, a certain number of ideas in one’s head. But in order to establish and consolidate the dictatorship, one has to prevent the bourgeoisie from undermining the State power of the proletariat. Kautsky apparently thinks that this can be achieved by tearful pamphlets. But his own experience ought to have shown him that it is not sufficient to have lost all influence with the proletariat, to acquire influence with the bourgeoisie.
I have listed this site several times. If you haven't seen it, please check it out.
http://www.demos.org/inequality/numbers.cfm
If you page down to the pie charts, you will find the distribution of wealth and stock ownership for 2004. At that time, 10% of people in this country had over 70% of the wealth. Similarly, 10% of people owned nearly 80% of stocks. Most of us, the 90% at the bottom, had only 28.7% of the wealth. That was 2004. I would bet that since then more has "trickled up".
We definitely need to redistribute wealth.
Does anyone have later numbers on this?
We can use this article's numbers to set up a comparison:
The author uses a four-group division, 40%, 40%, 10%, 10%.
But translated into a two-group set, 90%, 10%, his numbers give us:
28.2% of the wealth for the bottom 90% of the population, leaving...
71.8% of the wealth for the top 10% of the population.
So, if his numbers are more recent, it would appear that we have indeed lost an additional half-percent of wealth in the last 4 years.
The author's four-group set shows us the real scandal however. The bottom 40% have dogcrap for wealth -0.2%-, and the top 20% has way too much -84.8%. That the "second 10%" willingly serves the "first 10%" is no surprise, they get almost as much wealth out of it as the whole bottom 80% -almost EIGHT TIMES the wealth (per capita) of almost everybody else (its like they're Sweden and we're Honduras or something). But why do the "first 40%" keep falling for this and why do the "second 40%" bother to participate at all, why don't they revolt?
I think it is a combination of upper-class propaganda, greed, poverty, social isolation, and lack of class unity.
Further more I believe that if we can say the above sentence in such a way as to avoid sounding like "pinko-leftists" we might finally be able to move that bottom 80% to self-preservation.
Don't Panic,
-matti.
The problem with spreading the wealth around here is that wealth and power concentration is increasingly globalized and can't be easily addressed in any one country. Western corporations have to compete with other multinationals based in countries with fewer regs where rich investors worldwide stand to make higher profits.
This translates into a contest that foreign multinationals with fewer regs are winning, resulting in job losses among Western multis and forcing Americans to give them less regs, no matter how onerous. When Americans start suffering as a result, we ask for more regs. Things become a spiderweb of regs, where no one can predict anything, much less economists who are the modern equivalent of witches. Then things like our present mess arise.
Since the world is becoming so dependent on multinationals, the WTO and other trade agreements arose to level the playing field for corporations, excluding the public welfare, reasoning that what's good for corporations is good for the public.
In other words, if we force social and environmental regs on our corporations, they lose competitiveness and we lose jobs. Like Nader says, it's a race to the bottom.
I never thought I would be saying this, but maybe the solution is not more regs on corporations, limits on CEO pay, more corporate taxes, universal healthcare, environmental restrictions, minimum salaries or other regs to add to the spiderweb of confusion.
Maybe the solution is to become a direct democracy the easy way, by incorporating We the People, getting equal shares of non-transferable stock and dividends from the lease or sale of our public treasure, having a corporate management that represents us instead of other corporations, having the ability to hire and fire our corporate management in yearly online corporate meetings according to their performance, having a one person, one vote corporate government and deciding to deal only with socially and environmentally responsible corporations and banks.
The dividends we receive from stock in our public treasure would be enough to lift every American out of poverty and give us more free time for leisure, sports, education, arts, science and hobbies now reserved for the top one percent. Now that's people power.
I have to disagree.
First, remove the idea that corporations are the same as humans. Corporations should have no human rights, they are NOT humans. Corporations are artificial constructs that exist only to make profit.
Secondly, tax them for their profits. That is what we USED to do before Reagan took over and shifted the tax burden onto the citizens. 2/3 of the large corporations in this country and those that do business here from the rest of the world pay NOTHING on over $20 TRILLION in profits. They have far more money than they could ever use, it's time to get OUR cut of that back. The price of doing business is taxes, plain and simple. Or at least it was before republicans and their greed took over.
Thirdly, remove the private money election finance system we have now. Money and ideas are NOT the same thing, regardless of what the SCOTUS has said. Money is a corruting influence that results in nothing but inbreeding and stupidity. Ideas are things that are spread around and can improve the quality of life for eveyone.
Fourth, if you sell off the public amenities like parks, forests, roads, bridges, libraries, schools, hospitals and the like, you have nothing left to show for it. We need MORE things that we all own, not less. It's what gives people a sense of common good, of actually being in a society. What the republicans have given us instead of the commons is a dog eat dog, no one belongs to a society at all mentality that has destroyed the country's soul. If you are not old enough to remember before Reagan, you will have to take my word for it. We USED to be a country. Now we are a group of people that just happen to live in the same country.
It's the proverbial contest: people power vs corporate power. People are potentially more powerful, but their power is scattered and easy to manipulate. The owners of concentrated money-power corporations have the resources to keep people quarreling among themselves, distracted by Madison Ave., frightened by terrorism, etc. and adding to oligarch's bottom line.
For profit corporations are successful in the long run because they organize people to make products or services at a profit.
People can organize and win some in the short run, but their lack of for profit organization makes people unable to compete with the staying power of for profit corporations in the long run.
By Incorporating We the People and getting equal shares and dividends from our non-transferable stock in public lands, wealth of public resources and treasure, we can easily beat corporations at their own game. We'll have direct democracy and economic democracy. Other corporations will have to deal with We the People Inc., the largest and richest of all corporations. And we'll only do business with socially and environmentally responsible ones.
nationalize walmart and redistribute the profits.
"Socialism" is bad?
Tell that to the NFL - salary caps, shared revenues, free universal health care, and a "commission" that autonomously sets the rules and even punishes off-field behavior.
Yet, as CNN reports, the NFL "is the most successful sports organization in history."
Meanwhile, ever hear of The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, The Commonwealth of Massachusetts, The Commonwealth of Kentucky or The Commonwealth of Virginia? They're still called that, key word: commonwealth. Maybe we should petition to change them to, say, "The Ownership Society of Pennsylvania," or "The Steal As Much Wealth As Possible Kentucky," or "I Got Mine Screw You Massachusetts," or maybe "Enough Is Never Enough Virginia?"
Ha! Fantastic analogy with the NFL!
I am hereby stealing it for use on the guys at the bar -who are half-friggin' Anarchist for pete's sake!- that let their "commie" hate trick them into voting Kleptocrat*.
The Commonwealth argument is a good one that avoids the keywords "socialist" or "communist" or "state-run" that send up red flags (pun intended) for many "Americans".
*That is they vote for the Kristian Kleptocratic Party instead of the Social Plutocrats.
How about "Kristian Kleptocratic Kabal"?
I just saw McCain talking about Obama's "Spread the Wealth" plan. He is telling people that 40% of Americans don't even pay taxes, so to give them a tax cut from zero would mean giving them checks for money they didn't earn or tax credits.
With all of these negative attacks and lies, when can he be charged with slander or something?
What's amazing is that he expects this to work on EXACTLY that "lower 40%" -and that it kinda does!
Don't they KNOW that they pay taxes?
This is another evil consequence of "withholding and refunds", I suspect.
Everybody in a position to do so needs to stop "whithholding" in 2009 and prepare to either pay federal taxes by 4-15-10 or refuse on the basis of "taxation without representation".
Best to contribute to O (or viable 3rd party candidate) and send McKeatingFive an email telling him what you've done and that you were prompted into conributing to his opponent because of this stupid negative attack.
What blows my mind is that the same people who object to spreading the wealth on Saturday, will head to church on Sunday and listen to how Jesus tells them to care for the least among us. And they'll drop a couple bucks in the collection plate.
What's worse is people who insist a portion of my income should be confiscated by government so the government can give to the needy, but they don't give their money to the needy, nor do they willingly send a little bit more each April 15 to the government, but try to find every tax deduction and loophole they can find to keep from sending their money to the government.
It's easy to spend someone else's money.
Have you been to a mega church lately? I did some editorial work for a church magazine recently. The reverend's whole family has jobs in "the business" and much of what they preach is: "God wants you to be rich."
The own acres and acres of land, tax free of course, and have a youth center that looks like a night club. Tax free again! The sanctuary is gorgeous (tax free), as are all the church offices. The preschool is tax exempt, as is the K through 8th grade school, and their production studio, as well.
But above all, the message they promote is: "God wants you to be rich."
Yeah, there's a lot more King David in these maga-churches than Jesus and the Apostles.
I actually get a little irked when I think of how they have comepletely stolen the label "Christians". They spend so little time considering Christ's words and DEEDS and the good works we should do in the World in his name. And they spend so much time putting a "Jesus" veneer on weird amalgamations of Pentacostal (post-Jesus) Holy Spirit exhultations, Old Testament (pre-Jesus) theocratic concepts, and Apocolyptic (drug-trip on Patmos, 3 centuries after Jesus) language.
Combine all that with a constant fear of death that is expanded to become a fear of material harm and obsession with material wealth (both poducts of suburban social isolation, pre-conversion cultural concepts, and pervasive technological ignorance).
And you get something that is pretty friggen' freaky and dangerous, but is less "Christian" than the Islamic religious movements that these people so mindlessly hate.
Chris Hedges is a Christian.
Sarah Palin is something else.
Don't Panic,
-matti.
Anybody with half a brain can look at Obama and McClone's websites side-by-side and quickly see that Obama will lower working class worker and retiree taxes, while McClone will be increasing working class taxes, including those of Joe the Republican shill turned pseudo plumber. The only conclusion I can draw is that McClone is betting on a significant portion of the US electorate being brain-dead. Its no doubt a good bet.
McClone's greatest travesty in this regard:
Just as Ronny Raygun eliminated tax deductions for personal property loan interest, and started taxing unemployment insurance benefits in 1986, McClone will start taxing employer-provided medical insurance benefits, thereby removing one of the working class' last tax breaks.
McClone's proposed $2,500 per taxpayer, or $5,000 per family tax credit won't come anywhere close to offsetting this major tax increase.
Biden told ABC's Kate Snow in response to a question about whether people making more than $250,000 would have to pay more in taxes with a President Obama:
"You got it," Biden replied. "It's time to be patriotic, Kate. Time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help America out of the rut, and the way to do that is they're still gonna pay less taxes than they did under Reagan."
The lord giveth and the lord taketh away.
In God we trust. All others need oversight.
The wealthiest have used government - the tax laws, international trade, outsourcing,bailouts, illegal wars etc to take as much wealth for themselves as they possibly could during the last thirty years. Then they (McCain) have the audacity to suggest that Obama is trying to spread the wealth. What a frightening thought - middle and lower class americans might be able to own something without a huge amount of debt on their shoulders. Let's not mention the usurious credit card rates that people like McCain have permitted banks to charge while limiting a person's ability to get relief in bankruptcy. Sorry McCain, you and yours days of theft are over - time to retire to one of your seven homes. We no longer need your self-serving government service.
"Class warfare." Typical Republican strategy of accusing others of doing what they themselves are guilty of. Similar to loudly leveling accusations of "voter fraud" (against ACORN, for example)== something that rarely happens-- while quietly committing massive election fraud-- purging voter registrations and setting up voting machines that flip or miscount votes. For a man like John McCain to use the term "class warfare" against leftists and liberals is so ludicrous and disingenuous as to discredit him entirely on all fronts.