Shit always rises to the top.

Perle and his ilk are all corporate fascists. The whole lot are chicken-hawks, unwilling to serve in the military themselves, but more than happy to send the poor kids of America off to die in the wars they start.

The article about the Dead Boy-Ten Years Old, Murdered by Terrorists in the Jewish Army of Occupation,

Got posted on Common Dreams a minute ago.

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lisa3210peace July 29th, 2008 5:58 pm

I talked to Kathy and she said she couldn't give me any instances herself. She forwarded to Joel and he says..........."Israeli settlers from Havat Maon unauthorized outpost (Hill 833) in the South Hebron Hills have repeatedly attacked children as they walk to elementry school in Tuwani. When I was attacked, I filmed the Israeli settler hurling stones at the group of children.
This is the fourth such incident this week."

"You (unbelievably) questioned whether or not Palestinian children were being brutalized by Jewish settlers in the West Bank."

We must always question anything we are not sure of and we must always be sure to never say any thing thats not true and verified. The last 8 years the neocons have been getting everyone's critisizm for that exact thing. And there are radicals on the left that are no better than those on the right.

Kathy didn't report that, but Joel did. Eyewitness account, no question.

It's an eye opener. But still don't condemn all Israeli for the actions of some. Our government hasn't been representing the feelings of a lot of our population lately for example.

Pax

http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/fr/fr030416_1_n.shtml

Oil from Iraq : An Israeli pipedream?

16 April 2003

"Israel stands to benefit greatly from the US led war on Iraq, primarily by getting rid of an implacable foe in President Saddam Hussein and the threat from the weapons of mass destruction he was alleged to possess. But it seems the Israelis have other things in mind.

An intriguing pointer to one potentially significant benefit was a report by Haaretz on 31 March that minister for national infrastructures Joseph Paritzky was considering the possibility of reopening the long-defunct oil pipeline from Mosul to the Mediterranean port of Haifa. With Israel lacking energy resources of its own and depending on highly expensive oil from Russia, reopening the pipeline would transform its economy.

To resume supplies from Mosul to Haifa would require the approval of whatever Iraqi government emerges and presumably the Jordanian government, through whose territory it would be likely to run. Paritzky's ministry was reported to have said on 9 April that it would hold discussions with Jordanian authorities on resuming oil supplies from Mosul, with one source saying the Jordanians were "optimistic". Jordan, aware of the deep political sensitivities involved, immediately denied there were any such talks.

Paritzky said he was certain the USA would respond favourably to the idea of resurrecting the pipeline. Indeed, according to Western diplomatic sources in the region, the USA has discussed this with Iraqi opposition groups.

It is understood from diplomatic sources that the Bush administration has said it will not support lifting UN sanctions on Iraq unless Saddam's successors agree to supply Israel with oil.

All of this lends weight to the theory that Bush's war is part of a masterplan to reshape the Middle East to serve Israel's interests. Haaretz quoted Paritzky as saying that the pipeline project is economically justifiable because it would dramatically reduce Israel's energy bill.

US efforts to get Iraqi oil to Israel are not surprising. Under a 1975 Memorandum of Understanding (MoU), the US guaranteed all Israel's oil needs in the event of a crisis. The MoU, which has been quietly renewed every five years, also committed the USA to construct and stock a supplementary strategic reserve for Israel, equivalent to some US$3bn in 2002. Special legislation was enacted to exempt Israel from restrictions on oil exports from the USA.

Moreover, the USA agreed to divert oil from its home market, even if that entailed domestic shortages, and guaranteed delivery of the promised oil in its own tankers if commercial shippers were unwilling or not available to carry the crude to Israel. All of this adds up to a potentially massive financial commitment.

The USA has another reason for supporting Paritzky's project: a land route for Iraqi oil direct to the Mediterranean would lessen US dependence on Gulf oil supplies. Direct access to the world's second-largest oil reserves (with the possibility of expansion through so-far untapped deposits) is an important strategic objective."

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Thomas More: You (unbelievably) questioned whether or not Palestinian children were being brutalized by Jewish settlers in the West Bank.

I understand. The MSM reports Jewish deaths, not Palestinians.

But Tuesday,yesterday, 7/29/08, Hamad Hossam Mussa, A CHILD, WAS SHOT IN THE HEAD AND KILLED BY JEWISH "SOLDIERS" who kill kids?) AT THE VILLAGE OF Ni'Lin.

Like I said above. All the time. Day in and day out.

Children murdered and beaten by Jews in uniform and sometimes by terrorists whose faces are masked.

Shalom.

canuckchuck July 30th, 2008 12:07 am

This is going to kill me, but I agree with canuckchuck.

It comforts me to know that even a blind squirrel can find an acorn in a snowstorm occasionally. (LOL)

Perle is a human shit-stain in a bad hairpiece.

Perle is no scholar...he is an ideologue..scholarship implies researching other points of view.

So the truth comes out: it was all about the oil: Richard Perle's oil. Seems like the "Prince of Darkness" has found himself a little oil patch near Erbil he plans to keep all for himself. This for a man who engineered the invasion of Iraq as the outgrowth of a neo-con plan to defeat Israel's enemies in the Mideast. [That plan, it should be noted, called for a new Pearl Harbor just like 9/11, whose Official Explanation has more holes than a barrel at the OK Corral.]
Well, I guess we can believe the neo-cons were really in it for themselves after all. Just like Silverstein, the owner of the Towers, who mopped up on $4 billion plus in insurance proceeds from what was the "opportunity" (Cheney, Rice) presented by 9/11.

lisa3210peace July 29th, 2008 5:58 pm

Thanks. I was fairly sure about it.

"But I take the author at her word the Children are in danger of being "killed and beaten" by Israelis.

Because Thomas More, it happens all the time. All the time."

Checking it out.

I did find out about the blockade and the control points in Gaza.

Why not? There's money to be made from oil:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/07/30/2318459.htm?section=justin

"......Richard Perle has been exploring going into the oil business.."

Oh....is the weathervane blowing and pointing in his direction after five years of war in Iraq? Will he thank the families of our dead and our wounded soldiers along with all the Iraqi victims for handing him this once-in-a-lifetime financial opportunity or can we assume he's going to share the profits with all the war victims/survivors of his brilliant architecture?

Thomas More: Hmmm....3rd to last paragraph last sentence speaks of the danger of the children being "killed and beaten."

And of course the Children's escort having his face smashed,

But I see your point. No specific child was reported beaten in the article, just groups chased by masked Israeli's with sticks.

But I take the author at her word the Children are in danger of being "killed and beaten" by Israelis.

Because Thomas More, it happens all the time. All the time.

Have you heard of Khiam? Thats where the Israeli-Nazis used to Torture Children. Doubt me? Google 'Khiam'

Israel's actions are indefensible except for rascist Zionists.

Khiam.

Richard Perle has always appeared to be dying from some weird form of cancer that kills you without actually causing you to lose any weight.

peachmcd, They sleep on piles of money, of course with armed guards at the gate!
This is in the WSJ so that brokers know who has cash to invest.

lisa3210peace July 29th, 2008 3:53 pm

"It details the vicious beatings of Children by Jewish Settlers in the West Bank."

I read that, but it didn't say anything about children being beaten.

A security expert? Does the reporter not realize that this putative security expert realize that the war that he wanted so badly and finally got has vastly increased the amount of insecurity in the world?
"Kurdish authorities have been granting oil-drilling contracts even though Iraq's central government and the Bush administration want them to hold off until a national oil law is passed."
This was contradicted by reports late last month, including in the New York Times, of the Bush administration's thumbs up regarding Hunt Oil's contracts with the KRG.
I'll still give credit to the WSJ for even reporting the story, though. Given the Journal's readership, there is sure to be little outrage at the fact that one of the most militant members of the government-corporate complex could soon be profitting from an illegal war of which he was one of the foremost advocates.

Spike July 29th, 2008 5:17 pm

I know you are right. And he sure fits in with his brave buddies in Washington.

Perle will never pick up a rifle and fight anywhere. His lifelong grail has been to get others to fight one another and allow him to profit by their deaths. Just another parasite.

"again, Eeewwwwww. How do these people sleep at night?"

They sleep well ... they have no conscience. This question should be posed to the Republican excreta and their Democratic enablers.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=59872

Sybil Edmonds, the translator who has been gagged by the US government, talked about Richard Perle and his connections to elements in the Turkish government. She is unable to talk specifically without being jailed.

lwhunt330: "4000 US deaths from the invasion and the country driven into bankrupcy so he can skim off millions and retire to his vila in southern France"

Perle - It was a frame up job! Nothing was proven!!!

July 29, 2008

Palestinian child shot dead by Israeli soldiers

jj: Have you read the article in Common Dreams today by Kathy Kelly, Pictures from Summer Camp?

It details the vicious beatings of Children by Jewish Settlers in the West Bank.

I too think the illegal settlements should be abandoned. And a two-state solution impelemented.

J-Street conducted an interesting poll recently showing about 2/3rd's of American Jews to be far less Hawkish than AIPAC. Which of course meant about 1/3rd were aligned with AIPAC.

Please if you care to read Kathy Kelly's piece.

Peace.

I would like to agree with every posting above on Richard Perle and multiply his guilt times three.

This was one of the original architects of Iraq back in the 90's. He personally has the blood of every single soldier and Marine that died in his war or is crippled for life physically or mentally.

He also wears the blood of every single Iraqi killed in his criminal plan.

What I wouldn't give to see him carrying a rifle in Mosul about now.

Can crude oil get out blood stains?

The sad thing is that we will all see this piece of excrement nightly on the MSN and FOX networks or Sunday morning talk shows still expounding his crap and being presented as an expert in middle eastern affairs. This war profiteer should hang. Any of his appearances on any of these networks should prompt enough protest phone calls to choke their phone lines. 4000 US deaths from the invasion and the country driven into bankrupcy so he can skim off millions and retire to his vila in southern France. It is just astounding that none of these criminals will ever face justice. Mainy because the Democrats are driving the getaway car for them.

I'm shocked, shocked! Richard Perle is a dessicated scumbag that should be led to the gallows with the rest of the neocon cabal that's sending our beloved country deeper into the toilet.

lisa3210peace, although Israel is identified in many peoples' mind as a Jewish entity and many zionists and neocons are - or claim to be - Jews, I would not label the sins of Perle and his cohorts or the excesses of the Israeli government and settlers as Jewish acts.

I know too many good Jews who despise both zionists and neocons and believe that the settlements should be abandoned.

jj

One of the very principal cheerleaders and policy advisors for the Iraq invasion, and now he finally gets to get in on divying up the spoils. A fine price for 4000 dead Americans, 35,000 wounded Americans, one million Iraqis killed, and 20 % of a populations displaced from their own homes. The surge is working!!!

Perle and other Israeli-Jewish/"Neocons," have used Exxon/Cheney et al's desire for ME oil to promulgete their own agenda; The killing of Arabs and Destabilization of all countries in the ME except the American owned 'Sheikdoms.'

Now though they want some of the oil$$$ also.

Yesterday, Monday, 350 people were killed or wounded by Female Suicide Bombers in a crowd of thousands in KIRKUK.

The Neocons drove America into the Iraqi War. Walt. Mearscheim.

(Republican) NeoCONS/Israel+USA/Exxon OilLust=One Million Dead.

... and Prince of Darkness.

The Turks WILL invade to protect the interests of Turkomans and/or prevent the Kurdish takeover of Kirkuk a previously Turkoman stronghold - Turkish Co.or not.

Whatever jail or hell these guys go to is sure going to be crowded…

The more interesting item of note in this story is the involvement of a Turkish company with the Kurdish government. If so, it would appear that the canniest political operators in this whole sick scenario are the Kurds. By involving a Turkish company, they have given a big disincentive to their most immediate and powerful opponent, Turkey, from invading and destroying all those oil profits. It would appear by including Perle and other scum bags, the Kurds are hedging their bets by spreading the risk and making it too expensive for the Turks to invade should an independent Kurdistan become a reality. Considering how badly history has treated the Kurds, one would almost cheer for them were they not in business with such utter scum.

My post was in response to the posting made by jcrumb July 29th, 2008 11:48 am (I see that there was another posting made as I was composing mine.

I know what you mean. Sometimes I feel as though we are living in a real and physical version of "The Matrix".

here's some back ground on the wise visonary Nursultan Nazarbayev:

http://www.counterpunch.org/brauchli03012008.html

"Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), an organization he now chairs, that there were "numerous and persistent examples of intimidation by the authorities" and an "overall media bias in favor of the incumbent." One month before the election Zamanbek Nurkadilov, an opposition leader, was said by authorities to have committed suicide. He did it by shooting himself once in the head and twice in the chest."

Nazarbayev is also good "friends" of Bush, Bush the Inferior, Cheney, and Clinton

again, Eeewwwwww. How do these people sleep at night?

Sleep? These people are part of the un-dead!

JEEZIS....GROAN!....SIGH!..

Does anyone really believe it is going to get better? Or do you find yourself feeling ..sad?...that the whole thing was/is so badly managed that we basically..aren't going to make it?

I find myself thinking this alot lately..a really...maudlin feeling..not depressed..oddly...just sort of sad..like.."Damn! what a fuckin shame!"..you know? like the way you feel when you see a "promising student" who is now 25 and a drunk who is alway's in trouble....you know?..

I just..no longer see...HOW..we are going to pull out..or how that would even be possible...? Primarily..I feel that the...unfortunate..horrific...soul killing reality of most of the World..e.g...uhhh..Zembabwe?..uhh..China?..will simply NEVER get it..if Americans..say?..got wise..stopped paying..brought their government back to the table..say in the next 5 years...on the very brink by most of the "environment math"(for starters)...how far behind us..would..China or Africa be?...I fear...nay..I believe..that they would be TOO far behind..TOO entrenched with NO recourse or..even FORM of action that the citizenry could..or WOULD IF THEY COULD....take to begin those same changes in their Country...thus..we would still be...on target to..well, as William Burroughs put it."..sure as shit, they'll breed themselves into the polluted oceans.."

Or..put it another way..we might be able to get it together on the brink..but China..is NEVER going to step off the sure path to SUFFOCATION IN IT' OWN FECES..So..I feel...sad!

We need a new form of Country Music..to proclaim the modern tragedies...songs of overpopulation and gred sung to the tune of "coal miners daughter"..etc...could be good..

Anyway..do what you will..talk amongst yourselves..I am outta here..

Is anyone surprised at this point?

Not to mention, the incredible links between the inner Bush administration and the whole-sale privatization, through Caci, Blackwater, et al., of our intelligence gathering and war-making services, which under the constitution is suppose to be left up to the Federal government.

Talk about irony, the government gives up it's constitutional obligations to issue coin (gave that job up to the FED), and the aforementioned intelligence/military machine (gave it to private contractors), all the while trying to take on new responsibilities wholly outside the purview of the government: propping up private companies, taking charge of morality - domestic and abroad - and its new stated goal of nation builder extraordinaire.

-James
www.thePoliticus.org

again, Eeewwwwww. How do these people sleep at night?

While sending young Americans off to die for another country, the neocons may as well make a profit too, right?

Calling Perle a scholar is analogous to calling Hitler a statesman.

jj