Evangelist Video Shot at Air Force Academy Exposed
A video made by a Christian ministry group shows Air Force Academy cadets being pressured to become “government paid missionaries when they leave” the academy, according to the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF), which released the video this week.
MRFF president Mikey Weinstein says the video is unconstitutional and an outrage.
“This is absolutely out of control. You cannot engage the U.S. government to propel your religion,” said Weinstein.
The video features former Academy Campus Crusade for Christ director Scot Blum saying, “They’re government paid missionaries when they leave here,” referring to graduates of the academy.
“Our purpose for Campus Crusade for Christ at the Air Force Academy is to make Jesus Christ the issue at the Air Force Academy and around the world,” said Blum on the video.
Watch the Campus Crusade for Christ video here.
Weinstein, whose organization has filed a lawsuit against the Department of Defense for violating service members’ right to religious freedom, said the video is one item on a “long menu” of unconstitutional evangelism going on in the military.
A spokeswoman for Campus Crusade for Christ said her organization’s Military Ministry occasionally comes under attack from various groups which don’t agree with her organization’s Christian mission.
“We are careful to comply with all government and Department of Defense policies and regulations which may apply to our ministry with government agencies and employees, and we will review the video in question to ensure continued compliance,” the spokeswoman said.
An Air Force Academy spokesman said he has not seen the video, but that the Air Force Academy has pledged to defend religious rights.
“We’ve worked actively to remind our people to respect others, and we make sure we offer a wide variety of [religious] services,” the spokesman said.
© ABC News
THIS IS A BLATANT DISREGARD FOR OUR CONSTITUTION,it should not be happening war and jesus have nothing in common……..drees1,sounds like you know what you are talking about..are you saying that our own soldiers,as guards are responsible for much of the rape and goings on at the iraqi jails ??i am not surprised and know that the women should not be in jail,at all…any woman,anywhere would do what they must do to feed and protect their children…..free the mothers of iraq !!!bush-devils!
Campus Crusade for Christ and the Air Force Academy deserve each other. We the people of the United States in order to form a more perfect union need to kill them all and let god sort them out.
drees1,sounds like you have been in the trenches and know first hand of what you speak….are you saying that u.s.a. guards at the prisons in iraq are violating and raping women (iraqi)prisoners ??that would not surprise me at all..and it needs to be handed off to someone who is in a position to op-ed it to a public source.those women should not be in jail,at all !any woman,anywhere would do whatever they must do to feed and protect their children…..!!
Power greed and Ego. Lets not be fooled, that’s all this is. This has nothing to do with Jesus. Didn’t he say “Blessed are the peacemakers,” My kingdom is not of this World.” What and the hell does the military have to do with Religion. These people while pretending to be religious are in fact embodying the face of the Devil himself, the very thing they are “fighting against”…..Well Hindus call this age (the last 5000 years ) the Kali Yuga.(Age of Iron) It means morals and righteousness are turned upside down, materialism is king,it is the darkest time where ignorance darkens the mind, black is white and white is black. In fact this type of “religion” is grossly material in nature, its demonic because it goes against love, the foundation of this world. You become whatever you are obssessed about. So we are becoming the very thing we are fighting against. God help us!!
So timeless. How mythological. What a repeat of how humanity lives and reveals its folly. God is always on the side of the empire (according to the empire cheerleaders). Onward soldiers and into the infinite you go! Division of church and state? No more! Our church shall be our state and our state our house of unquestioned worship!
Uggh! I’m gonna try and catch the last train home.
well, how else are we gonna fight the muslim extremists unless we create christian extremists.
HAS NO ONE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION THESE LAST 7 YEARS?
wake the fuck up.
in other news: rep. wexler wants your signature to begin impeachment hearings for dick cheney.
www.wexlerwantshearings.com
this is the sickest shit i’ve seen in years. those kids look and sound like brainwashed zombies. get em when their young, and mess them up them for life. cultism, pure and simple. religion is, has been, and it seems, will always be the bane of mankind. these are the darkest of ages.
The Air Force Academy has become a nest of Christian Supremecists under the rule of Dubya. What is disturbing about this beyond our tax dollars paying for this is that the Air Force maintains this country’s nuclear arsenal and is the main delivery system for them. Imagine if some nut bag christian preacher type decides to bring about the Rapture and orders his minions in the Air Force to make it happen.
That is why they serve so many pork products in the green zone and do not use Iraqis for food service, but Indians, Pakistanis and other non-locals? Imagine if Christians were required to prepare human sacrifices for their masters? Or jews were required to prepare pork and bottom dwelling seafood for their captors?
Jesus Christ is not a killer, thank you very much,
peace,
st john
Did any of you see the newscst today of the evangilicals and Baptists praying and moaning on Interstate 35. That is now the official highway to heaven, the one “forcasted” in the Bible. Pat Robertson says it is just glorious, wonderful.
It was truly scary to see them all out there, hands raised, chanting bull shit and acting like total idiots. __ Thousands of them. And here comes Hucksterby, leadng the Repugs. ___ Shit!
New motto for the Air Farce “We drop bombs and bibles.”
Hey! Air Farce is a pretty funny Canadian show. Don’t knock it. (Watch it: they do a funny Bush: http://www.airfarce.com/). Kem: I don’t have TV: they did what?!!!!
American theocracy, coming to an institution near you! The new crusaders…scary.
I’m more a Red/Green fan.
Another reason not to join the stormtroopers.
A Voice Apart,
I must confess that I have never seen or heard of that Canadian show. Like you, I do not own a television set.
I watch it online, Claudius. Grappa, I like Red/Green too but haven’t found it online yet.
all whilst they rape the female cadets and sweep that under the rug.
http://community.livejournal.com/dark_christian/
These disturbed religious dumbnuts just won’t go away. I saw their scourge rising back in the early 80’s in Southern California, and all I could feel was dread. My first thought was, what happened to education and why have so many Americans lost their mind? I had one experience with this hell, fire and brimstone church when I was a kid and even then I realized just how crazy they are and one service was enough. Nothing is more dangerous than a religious nut who is determined to force others to believe in what he/she believes in or he will Kill You and we see this happening in the Middle East daily. Let’s ship all these Christian nuts over to the Middle East and let them battle it out with their muslim zealots.
Despite having no service background myself, I believe that at Sandhurst (the British Army’s equivalent of West Point), these holy rollers wouldn’t have been a problem because (the Church of England chapel apart) there was no other God but RSM Ronald Brittain (ex of the 2nd Battalion the Coldstream Guards) - with a voice to match!!!
Spreading Christianty though violence: what a joke!
Who would Jesus bomb?
Who will you help impeach?
Sign the petition….sing the truth…
www.wexlerwantshearings.com
For a well-written, comprehensive history of the rise of the fundamentalist evangelical connection with US politics, read “The Fall of the House of Bush”, by Craig Unger.
I am learning so much about this nutty movement and grab for power based on beliefs like “the Rapture”…
I guess it gives them something to do in their free time besides raping the women cadets. Maybe that makes them forgiven.
Seriously, the Campus Crusade has always been a relatively benign and goofy organization that preyed (or prayed) upon students who were looking for some direction in their lives, and it probably helped quite a few lost souls over the years. The neocons have hijacked the Republican Party and two elections, screwed with federal prosecutors, and have placed minders and mouthpieces throughout the government. Why not hijack the CCFC and turn it into the neo-Hitler youth? I hope not.
This is just the logical outcome of unbridled Chicago School Economics. The privatization of the military. We’ve turned the Air Force over to the Evangelicals, and the Christian Soldiers are on the march and dropping cluster bombs for God. Hallaluja brothas & sistas!
I love theses double-speak euphemisms which these neocons try to pass off as communication. Military Religious Freedom Foundation? Nothing in military service is free and there are those who would love to force that kind of freedom on the civilian population.
The Clean Skies initiative, The Forest Preservation Act, No Child Left Behind, B.S., B.S., B.S. I’m drowning in it.
It might be well that they all recite John Lennon’s “Imagine”
I think the only way out of the mess called the U.S.A. is to turn our backs to it and its corrupt poitical system of Republican/Democrat and start electing ONLY unaffiliated representatives from the local level up.
The political parties are just schemes to distance politicians from the PEOPLE…
How exactly are other faiths and religions represented on the campus of the air force academy? As long as the various religious options are presented as choices for the students, without one ideology being promoted over others, then there’s no problem.
Church of Latter Day Saints?
The Jewish faith?
Buddhism?
The Muslim faith?
If Campus Crusade is only protestant, then what about Catholicism?
How are these other religious ideologies represented? The video about Campus Crusade for Christ is incomplete without full representation of what’s going on on the campus.
On the surface, promoting Christianity at a U.S. military academy is problematic, but offering it along with other faiths is not. I’d like to see a more complete, full depiction of this movement, if it is one, that includes the whole picture.
SCOTT S: Thank you for your post as you save me the trouble of pointing this out yet again. Some on CD are so busy justifying/validating the voice of the “good Christian” and refuse to see that war is being furthered with the USE of religion, and the false endorsement of JESUS! This is blasphemy and utterly dangerous, as it would seem in the 21st century, for all the wars already fought, studied and presumably learned from, for a so-called sophisticated/civilized society to rebound back to this el primitivo bull shit and get so many MILLIONS of followers suggests something is wrong not just in Denmark!
The Campus Crusade is a subversive organization, trying to undermine the historic, constitutional separation of church and state. Their non-profit status should be revoked and their staff and board charged with subversion. The religious right is waging a warlike campaign to subvert the US Military, ad we have a duty to fight back.
For much, much more about how radical rightwing Christians are insinuating themselves into the military (and other places) please visit www.talk2action.org
You can learn much more about Weinstein and the Military Religious Freedom Foundation as well. You can view a video he made about why he started it. (He is Jewish.)
I am chilled to the bone after watching the Campus Crusade video. What on earth? How can any rational person believe they are walking with Christ as they train to kill? Unbelievable! Is there some different Jesus that they are devoted to? One with a plane load of bombs? Unreal.
Congress should change the name from the Air Force Academy to Anal Roberts University, both as a sister institution to Oral Roberts U and in tribute to our illustrious Chief Justice.
oh god, save us from the “christians”…..
Another poster wrote this on another page, but it seems to be quite relevant here.
I will post the english translation of the Papal Bull Inter Caetera written by Pope Alexander the 6th. It it the Pope gives permission to the Christian Kings of Europe the power to assume ownership of foreign lands and to bring to Christianity their Indigenous inhabitants. If the Indigenous Peoples refused to accept Christ as their Savior, then they could be killed like animals in the forest. This happened not just in America but throughout the World. The world was treated as a franchise of the Catholic Church. The Papal Bull Inter Caetera directly unleashed the greatest genocide in the World in the last five hundred years. Not counting the deaths in other countries, in the America’s alone over one hundred million American Indians died by both direct and indirect actions of Christian People, both Protestant and Catholic. The explorers and colonists in fact enjoyed all of the benefits that Christendom had to offer. The proof of their participation lies in the fact that they did not rise to stop the genocide. Even today Christians allow the continuation of the quiet genocide against American Indian Peoples. The reason it continues to be accepted lies in the belief of Christian Dominion, i.e. that only through Christ can souls be saved. This is a dangerous and destructive belief because it lies at the heart of the justification for continuing genocide.
The Bull Inter Caetera (Alexander VI), May 4, 1493.
Background
Columbus’ discovery in 1492 of supposedly Asiatic lands in the western seas threatened the unstable relations between the kingdoms of Portugal and Castile, which had been jockeying for position and possession of colonial territories along the African coast for many years. The king of Portugal asserted that the discovery was within the bounds set forth in Papal bulls of 1455, 1456, and 1479. The king and queen of Castile disputed this and sought a new Papal Bull on the subject.
Pope Alexander VI, a native of Valencia and a friend of the Castilian king, responded with three bulls, dated May 3 and 4, which were highly favorable to Castile. The third of these bulls, the bull Inter caetera, is reproduced below, in an English translation published in European Treaties bearing on the History of the United States and its Dependencies to 1648, Frances Gardiner Davenport, editor, Carnegie Institution of Washington, 1917, Washington, D.C., at pp. 75-78. The original text in Latin is in the same volume, at pp. 72-75.
Though later bulls were issued on the subject of Portugese and Spanish colonial rivalry, the bull Inter caetera became a major document in the development of subsequent legal doctrines regarding claims of empire in the “new world.” The bull assigned to Castile the exclusive right to acquire territory, to trade in, or even to approach the lands lying west of the meridian situated one hundred leagues west of the Azores and Cape Verde Islands. An exception was made, however, for any lands actually possessed by any other Christian prince beyond this meridian prior to Christmas, 1492.
English Translation
Alexander, bishop, servant of the servants of God, to the illustrious sovereigns, our very dear son in Christ, Ferdinand, king, and our very dear daughter in Christ, Isabella, queen of Castile, Leon, Aragon, Sicily, and Granada, health and apostolic benediction. Among other works well pleasing to the Divine Majesty and cherished of our heart, this assuredly ranks highest, that in our times especially the Catholic faith and the Christian religion be exalted and be everywhere increased and spread, that the health of souls be cared for and that barbarous nations be overthrown and brought to the faith itself. Wherefore inasmuch as by the favor of divine clemency, we, though of insufficient merits, have been called to this Holy See of Peter, recognizing that as true Catholic kings and princes, such as we have known you always to be, and as your illustrious deeds already known to almost the whole world declare, you not only eagerly desire but with every effort, zeal, and diligence, without regard to hardships, expenses, dangers, with the shedding even of your blood, are laboring to that end; recognizing also that you have long since dedicated to this purpose your whole soul and all your endeavors — as witnessed in these times with so much glory to the Divine Name in your recovery of the kingdom of Granada from the yoke of the Saracens — we therefore are rightly led, and hold it as our duty, to grant you even of our own accord and in your favor those things whereby with effort each day more hearty you may be enabled for the honor of God himself and the spread of the Christian rule to carry forward your holy and praiseworthy purpose so pleasing to immortal God. We have indeed learned that you, who for a long time had intended to seek out and discover certain islands and mainlands remote and unknown and not hitherto discovered by others, to the end that you might bring to the worship of our Redeemer and the profession of the Catholic faith their residents and inhabitants, having been up to the present time greatly engaged in the siege and recovery of the kingdom itself of Granada were unable to accomplish this holy and praiseworthy purpose; but the said kingdom having at length been regained, as was pleasing to the Lord, you, with the wish to fulfill your desire, chose our beloved son, [b]Christopher Columbus, a man assuredly worthy and of the highest recommendations and fitted for so great an undertaking, whom you furnished with ships and men equipped for like designs, not without the greatest hardships, dangers, and expenses, to make diligent quest for these remote and unknown mainlands and islands through the sea, where hitherto no one had sailed; and they at length, with divine aid and with the utmost diligence sailing in the ocean sea, discovered certain very remote islands and even mainlands that hitherto had not been discovered by others; wherein dwell very many peoples living in peace, and, as reported, going unclothed, and not eating flesh. Moreover, as your aforesaid envoys are of opinion, these very peoples living in the said islands and countries believe in one God, the Creator in heaven, and seem sufficiently disposed to embrace the Catholic faith and be trained in good morals. And it is hoped that, were they instructed, the name of the Savior, our Lord Jesus Christ, would easily be introduced into the said countries and islands. Also, on one of the chief of these aforesaid islands the said Christopher has already caused to be put together and built a fortress fairly equipped, wherein he has stationed as garrison certain Christians, companions of his, who are to make search for other remote and unknown islands and mainlands. In the islands and countries already discovered are found gold, spices, and very many other precious things of divers kinds and qualities. Wherefore, as becomes Catholic kings and princes, after earnest consideration of all matters, especially of the rise and spread of the Catholic faith, as was the fashion of your ancestors, kings of renowned memory, you have purposed with the favor of divine clemency to bring under your sway the said mainlands and islands with their residents and inhabitants and to bring them to the Catholic faith. Hence, heartily commending in the Lord this your holy and praiseworthy purpose, and desirous that it be duly accomplished, and that the name of our Savior be carried into those regions, we exhort you very earnestly in the Lord and by your reception of holy baptism, whereby you are bound to our apostolic commands, and by the bowels of the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ, enjoin strictly, that inasmuch as with eager zeal for the true faith you design to equip and despatch this expedition, you purpose also, as is your duty, to lead the peoples dwelling in those islands and countries to embrace the Christian religion; nor at any time let dangers or hardships deter you therefrom, with the stout hope and trust in your hearts that Almighty God will further your undertakings. And, in order that you may enter upon so great an undertaking with greater readiness and heartiness endowed with the benefit of our apostolic favor, we, of our own accord, not at your instance nor the request of anyone else in your regard, but of our own sole largess and certain knowledge and out of the fullness of our apostolic power, by the authority of Almighty God conferred upon us in blessed Peter and of the vicarship of Jesus Christ, which we hold on earth, do by tenor of these presents, should any of said islands have been found by your envoys and captains, give, grant, and assign to you and your heirs and successors, kings of Castile and Leon, forever, together with all their dominions, cities, camps, places, and villages, and all rights, jurisdictions, and appurtenances, all islands and mainlands found and to be found, discovered and to be discovered towards the west and south, by drawing and establishing a line from the Arctic pole, namely the north, to the Antarctic pole, namely the south, no matter whether the said mainlands and islands are found and to be found in the direction of India or towards any other quarter, the said line to be distant one hundred leagues towards the west and south from any of the islands commonly known as the Azores and Cape Verde. With this proviso however that none of the islands and mainlands, found and to be found, discovered and to be discovered, beyond that said line towards the west and south, be in the actual possession of any Christian king or prince up to the birthday of our Lord Jesus Christ just past from which the present year one thousand four hundred and ninety-three begins. And we make, appoint, and depute you and your said heirs and successors lords of them with full and free power, authority, and jurisdiction of every kind; with this proviso however, that by this our gift, grant, and assignment no right acquired by any Christian prince, who may be in actual possession of said islands and mainlands prior to the said birthday of our Lord Jesus Christ, is hereby to be understood to be withdrawn or taken away. Moreover we command you in virtue of holy obedience that, employing all due diligence in the premises, as you also promise — nor do we doubt your compliance therein in accordance with your loyalty and royal greatness of spirit — you should appoint to the aforesaid mainlands and islands worthy, God-fearing, learned, skilled, and experienced men, in order to instruct the aforesaid inhabitants and residents in the Catholic faith and train them in good morals. Furthermore, under penalty of excommunication late sententie to be incurred ipso facto, should anyone thus contravene, we strictly forbid all persons of whatsoever rank, even imperial and royal, or of whatsoever estate, degree, order, or condition, to dare, without your special permit or that of your aforesaid heirs and successors, to go for the purpose of trade or any other reason to the islands or mainlands, found and to be found, discovered and to be discovered, towards the west and south, by drawing and establishing a line from the Arctic pole to the Antarctic pole, no matter whether the mainlands and islands, found and to be found, lie in the direction of India or toward any other quarter whatsoever, the said line to be distant one hundred leagues towards the west and south, as is aforesaid, from any of the islands commonly known as the Azores and Cape Verde; apostolic constitutions and ordinances and other decrees whatsoever to the contrary notwithstanding. We trust in Him from whom empires and governments and all good things proceed, that, should you, with the Lord’s guidance, pursue this holy and praiseworthy undertaking, in a short while your hardships and endeavors will attain the most felicitous result, to the happiness and glory of all Christendom. But inasmuch as it would be difficult to have these present letters sent to all places where desirable, we wish, and with similar accord and knowledge do decree, that to copies of them, signed by the hand of a public notary commissioned therefor, and sealed with the seal of any ecclesiastical officer or ecclesiastical court, the same respect is to be shown in court and outside as well as anywhere else as would be given to these presents should they thus be exhibited or shown. [b]Let no one, therefore, infringe, or with rash boldness contravene, this our recommendation, exhortation, requisition, gift, grant, assignment, constitution, deputation, decree, mandate, prohibition, and will. Should anyone presume to attempt this, be it known to him that he will incur the wrath of Almighty God and of the blessed apostles Peter and Paul.[b/] Given at Rome, at St. Peter’s, in the year of the incarnation of our Lord one thousand four hundred and ninety-three, the fourth of May, and the first year of our pontificate.
Gratis by order of our most holy lord, the pope.
June. For the referendary, For J. Bufolinus,
A. de Mucciarellis. A. Santoseverino.
L. Podocatharus.
“Christian Soldiers are on the march”
Some of you are as “thick” as Campus Crucsade and the Air Force Academy.
Srart by getting a hymnal and reading , objectively , the first line , Onward Christian soldiers , marching AS, AS, AS … to war . Get it ; the entire song is an extended metaphor , an allegory
LIKE a might army is a simile ; not a actual , gun-toting army.
Read the lyrics of the entire song and I defy anybody to find any reference to any act of physical aggression.
The lyrics are a paraprase of Paul’s letter to Timothy . Read the letter ; in fact , objectively,get a Bible and read all of Paul’s letters and show me one reference where he expressed his right to defend himself physically , never mind pro-actively.
Learn some history : Jews under the cruel oppression of the Roman occupiers much like Iraqis today under USA would have been justified by American patriots to take up arms against the occupier but Paul under the proxi-tutelage of Jesus ,exorted Jews to obey all Roman laws ,meekly and passively, except that of worshiping Caesar.That in fact was a capital offense
The world would mistakenly condemn all Americans for the criminal acts committed by some Americans.
Likewise , don’t condemn all Christians just because some like Pat Robertson and John Hagee can’t differentiate between the Sermon On the Mount and Mein Kampf.
Condemn individuals by their singular, personal, behavior , attitudes and statements not by their very ,very,loose and general affiliations.
Thou shalt not kill!
Evangelists guiding the morale of the strongest military on the globe, with the biggest weapons, and the most money not to mention the “poor” jewish state over there surrounded by all those arab/muslism?? Gosh, I wonder what that will lead to?? Some may call it WWIII, then others will call it an apocolypse.
That’s some serious brainwashing, those poor young people really are lost souls, I mean it’s like joining the moonies or the jim jones cult…they are getting it at all sides, just think they will be procreating too, the off spring of our future nut jobs.. we must act like villagers to Frankenstein’s castle and take it down soon & fast!!!
“This is absolutely out of control. You cannot engage the U.S. government to propel your religion,” said Weinstein.
Oh! Yes you can if you are George W Bush! He could care less what it says in the Constitution. He has ridiculed our system of government from the day he took office. He only obeys the higher authority. Why he is even still in office is amazing. He has violated the oath he took so many times it’s ridiculous he even has one supporter in this country. Given enough time, he will shove his brand of Christianity down every American’s throat whether they like it or not. But, I admire my Weinstein for taking this corrupt Administration on. It’s time Bush was let know he isn’t going to get away with it. I can’t imagine any worse mental abuse in this world than a Christian Fundamentalist’s bombarding you daily with that slop they believe. It’s enough to make a strong person’s stomach churn. I say slop because as far as I can see that’s what it is. Something they have sucked out of their thumbs in reading the myth in the Bible. I hope the next election people stay away from the religious aspect of the candidates and vote someone in office who is qualified to deal with all the problems of this country. It’s about time, we got something in office that isn’t going to pay homage to his religion daily and let the problems in this country fester and go untreated!
Jungleboy–excellent information very poorly presented. A long uninterupted column of text invites most to skip the message entirely and the few hardy souls who venture through it to give up pretty quickly. learn the power of paragraphing and occasional white spaces to interupt unending text.
All the venom expressed above by progressives against this admittedly disgusting organization’s activities at the Air Force Acadamy just play into the hands of these fanatics. You all have given them enough fodder for dozens of fund-raising appeals (”the forces of the godless ACLU and the defeatocrat, Liberal, secular humanist hordes in America are angry and God is pleased with us–won’t you send us all you can to further “God’s Work”?)
A more effective strategy, I believe, would be for Christians (such as Scott S) to point out the obvious contradiction between any Christian involvement within the military with the teachings of Jesus Christ.
For the non-theological or those of other faiths, it would be helpful to emphasize the difference between “conversion”–a willing transformation undertaken by an individual with the power to choose–and “coercion”–the use of physical, social, professional, cultural, or other force to compel conformity.
The military by both its orgauizatiional nature (heiarchial control determined by what you wear on either your sleeve or shoulder) and its physical mission (to kill people and destroy property or support those who do so) is coercive and as such is totally incompatable with any religious ethic be it Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, Bhuddist, or whatever.
For this cancer which is the “Christian” zealotry at the Air Force Academy to be destroyed it is going to take more than a mere shouting match on the part of those offended (and rightly so) by its activities.
Huge problem in the military folks. I know you all have figured it out. 20 years ago religion in the military was a docile little child. It has grown up now - as much of the military are right wing fundamentalists.
So what does this mean: If you aren’t Christian, you are wrong. You are not promoted, given special assignments, and other benefits that those who are religious are getting. I experienced this last year in Iraq.
A couple years ago I remember the fundamentals floating in the news (and the news eating it up) that this country was founded with their superstitious God (totally ridiculous…”Natures God” mean anything to them).
This was furthered when they started saying the separation of church and state was to keep government from staining religious rather then religion staining government.
Government is our collective action as society. I am sick of supporting a religious government.
someone needs to set up some type of deprogramming clinic next door to that base and if necessary quietly kidnap them individually via operation electro shock treatment one by one
The cult of Christianity…
One way to brainwash an individual is to isolate them and wear them down both mentally and physically and then give the person a place to find comfort and trust. In the military the “new” soldier finds that trust and comfort in his company. The Christians know this and use the rigorous training to their advantage. Just like they are using the so called Islamic terrorist to their advantage.
In life you are either playing the game or being played…
Onward Christian soldiers. Jesus save us from your followers.
who is that couple in that photo? is it nancy pelosi & senator byron? can anyone tell?
“Thank you for your post as you save me the trouble of pointing this out yet again. Some on CD are so busy justifying/validating the voice of the “good Christian” and refuse to see that war is being furthered with the USE of religion, and the false endorsement of JESUS!”
And I think a lot of the sensible Christians see that just as many moderate Muslims are quick to condemn their extremist brethren.
Ronald White-I agree with you. I think too many people here are taking cues from The Right.
There’s nothing Christian about war, despite what many hustlers on the right or haters on the left would have you believe.
Btw, and I’ve said this before, I am not myself a religious person, although I do belive in God. So it’s not as if I have a bias. I just don’t like seeing entire faiths tarred and feathered. It’s wrong. Morally wrong. That’s one reason why I cringe when I see headlines such as these. Some people just use it as an opening for attack.
Not that groups like Campus Crusade For Christ don’t make Christianity and Christians look bad. It is madness. Kick them the hell out already!
I can’t see Jesus supporting anyone burning civilians to death from 32,000 feet
The Devil would dig that, though
This has nothing to do with religion. It has everything to do with fascism.
click on photo and see the truth.. merry christmas to all my friends here on commondreams
Matt 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents and gentle as doves.
So whatever that means to each of you.
Christians
The most unChristian people on the planet
The bible says God possesses and uses
Weapons of Mass Destruction
Maybe we should bomb the Hell
Out of Heaven
We have already destroyed Heaven on Earth
Since when did the Prince of Peace — Jesus — go military and condone attacks, bombings, torture, etc. especially on innocent, defenseless people?? These right-wing jerks need to stop exploiting religion and telling people what to think and do.
It is hard for me to consider this fictional person, Jesus from a fictional book, the bible to be the prince of peace when more people have been murdered, maimed and tortured in his name than any other person in history.
Has anyone here actually read the bible. It is the most absurd concoction of nonsense ever conceived. The bible makes God out to be a very wicked character. Not to much unlike the devil it uses to scare you into believing it. It is just plain stupid. Believing in it promotes mental illness. That is exactly what religion is; A wholesale mental illness. Religion circumvents ones sense of logic and reason. It is very unhealthy. God did not give you a brain and his greatest gift, your sense of reason, just to have a religion turn it back off.
Every civilization has created a “christ” to save them from themselves.
My savior is my God given sense of reason. There is no way God would let a religion or lack of stand between you and him.
Happy holidays
I have a name for right wing fund a mental-ist’s.
Rapture Nazi’s
In the beginning there was nonsense, and the nonsense was with God, and the nonsense was God.
Well if he did exist he would be a Palestinian! He would look a lot like an Iraqi! Hey Santa! Bring me a Coke!
I remember reading the Bible when I was a teenager. It didn’t help me one bit, in fact I found it to be bizarre and boring. I couldn’t relate to it, and so I quit reading it.
I find the eastern philosophy of nonviolence, karma, and reincarnation to be more helpful.
I have lived in CS, the last time was 15 years ago. At that point in time I saw the influx of far right religion in the form of Focus On The Family. At the time I didn’t get the big picture but I have since put things together and seen how things have shaken out. When I was there I knew where the hugh complex of FOTF was located and I knew where the AirForce Acadamy was located. They are located a stone’s throw from each other. Over the years since living there I’ve begun to pay attention to the path the US has taken and I looked back and made a prediction that has come true. My prediction was that the zealouts of christianity would work to incorporate the military into a plan to once again make an assualt on other cultures/countries, to bring them to their idea of right which would be the teachings of Jesus Christ and the bible. So today I read this article and though FOTF is not mentioned … I am betting that the groups that have taken up the “battle” to christianize the world are FOTF members. If anyone is saying “what’s wrong with christianizing the world?” my response is everything.