Okay, I see Venezuela, Ecuador, and Bolivia firmly in the corner of "slamming the US-Columbian bases deal".

Brazil appears seriously concerned and Paraguay (with Fernando Lugo as president) might join the "seriouosly concerned" catagory. But that leaves Peru, Chile, Uraguay, the three Guianas and (most importantly) Argentina not yet really for the record committed one way or the other.

Bet that Hilly will be dangling all manner of threats and promises in front of these places for their "cooperation" in this matter.

Poet

Why do these countries need fighter jets and submarines?

To defend themselves from each other or the U.S.?

I want a world where countries don't feel threatened!

So Now, when We turn on the clear mind We should Be able to see all this as what it really is. An arson in a dry Amazon Forest. South America is burning and the possibilities include an all South American military task force to overthrow Colombia and create the USSA. A sub continent free of US American influence.

Speaking about influence. I don't need any good informed circles in the same industries, that are responsible for the chaos in which they descended us all, to figure out what is going on here.

The US American Intend is to boost arms-sales by cranking up tensions in South America. Yes, when Brazil wants a nuclear sub, the MIC's all over the planet have a blast, in the truest meaning of the word. War is an industry in which You destroy to rebuild and to destroy and rebuild. Insane people destroy what would last forever for the sole purpose of creating the 'disposable' Nation. The good thing about all this is, that You as a President can tell Your people that the GDP has risen, so We are doing better. Fact is that none of this artificially created GDP will ever leech through to the main stream populace, the middle class or below.

Which makes another thing painfully clear, when You listen to Mrs. Clinton.
My Non-Physical circles which are omni-informed, have dubbed 'Lawmaker' into 'Liemaker'.

These are paid Liemakers that dish out lies they most of the time don't even buy by them Selves.
So it would be helpful to listen to any syllable an Exploitician or Liemaker throws into Space & Time under the pretense of knowing that only lies can come out of their 6SenseMachines. They are paid to lie, to deceive and to trick people into submission.

All for this one and very unconscious desire of human mankind to rise above all this crap that we have come up with over the last 2000 years. It was okay and helpful to get where We got right now, but from Now on We will no longer employ Liemakers and Exploiticians and their armed protectors. Human mankind will succeed. Clinton and Obama will enter history as the failures they constitute. Failures in the sense of wasted opportunities, by the thousands, every moment. Failures by the standard of basic human rights and the most basic human right to not Be harmed. The list of opportunities is endless. Yet all We can see is the same sick business as usual.

Imagine Useless Weapons. We will disarm the planet without violence and prejudice. We will no longer employ Liemakers and Exploiticians. The only standard for fitness for office is the list of things the potential employee has handy to ensure his qualification.
It is no longer 'What Career Are We looking here at?' but 'What Did You Do For The Needy? For the Disenfranchised? The Homeless? The Sick? The Dying? The Starving?'
Those are the minimal requirements to become a government employee.

My best wishes go to South America where I have many friends all over the place. May peace prevail.

Good Luck To All Of Us. We Really Need It.

Believe That You Can Change Your Beliefs.

Colombia, the scab of the South American picket line. The thought of 7 U.S.-backed bases there is nothing less than obscene. The one country in South America that the U.S. refers to as an ally is the disgrace of the continent.

Honduran coup -- Part of master plan.

Just before were told about the new U.S. military bases in big Columbia, we have this little 8,000 man army in Honduras establish a dictatorship that could for years keep safe and secure the last U.S. base in Central America.

The largest oil reserve on earth being the vast oil fields in Venezuela, and Empire USA enraged by the way Chavez is using this black gold to establish fair, equal and democratic trade throughout the Americas, when our hero Chavez warns of eminent war we should give it close reflection.

We must have a lot of corporations in South America that need slave labor. Can't use the US citizens anymore - they want living wages.
United States of America - Terrorist Nation, par excellence.

If the seven bases in Colombia were not enough,

there is now another one planned for in French Guyana.

http://www.aporrea.org/tiburon/n141154.html

This is what Nader in referring to the duopoly said, that tho the dems are abit better on domestic issues the bipartisan imperialism holds fast.

At least Carter gave some credence to human rights! I'm still hopin' for change I can believe in.

I have long opposed US policy in Latin America. In '83, 75 of us stood in an upstate New York community,Cortland, in strong opposition to Reagan's actions in ElSalvador(which I saw as little Colombia), Nicaragua, and Guatemala. I held a sign, "No money for Death Squads." And, yes I took some grief as an employee for the county as a child protective worker. Since then, I have been a supporter of Witness For Peace, a contributor to schools in Nicaragua, and a strong contributor to Amnesty International and Community In Solidarity with the People of ElSalvador (CISPES). i gave more than I would have to CISPES because their mailing to me had aleady been opened.

The situation in Colombia is horrific. There has much been written on it. I recommend the 2 books I have: Colombia, The Genocidal Democracy by Javier Giraldo and Evil Hour in Colombia by Forrest Hylton.

In Colombia today (yes, under the US Gov't. praised and certified, death squad-supporting Uribe) union leaders, human rights advocates, reporters, and educators. A few years ago spoke at our Blue Frog Cafe that he, as a union leader, had run for his life out of the country.

Yes, FARC commits to violence. First, look at the history that led them to that strategy (as in Cuba vs. Batasta, Sandistas vs. Somoza, FLMN); I prefer the nonviolent resistance of the indigineous movement, like the Nausa in Cauca.

Let's support them, and stop pouring kerosene on fire!!

Here's a Curious piece of news:

Argentina becomes the SECOND Latin American country in 2 weeks to LEGALIZE "personal use of drugs" ...
"in small amounts so long as they do not harm others"....

however that is interpreted or applies in reality....

the curious matter is:

the growing trend in latin american countries to consider "personal use" of drugs as legal fundamentally REMOVES from the USA ONE of its biggest and long-running Excuses : the so-called "war on drugs" , for involving itself militarily in latin america....as a COVER, everyone knows this, for Imperial actions.

link to article is :

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/08/25/argentina.drug.decriminalization/index.html

(CNN) -- Argentina's Supreme Court ruled Tuesday it is unconstitutional to punish an adult for private use of marijuana as long as it doesn't harm anyone else.
A recent poll showed 29 percent of Americans believe the best way to deal with marijuana is to legalize it.

A recent poll showed 29 percent of Americans believe the best way to deal with marijuana is to legalize it.

The unanimous ruling makes Argentina the second Latin American country in the past four days to allow personal use of a formerly illegal drug.

The case in question involved five young men who were arrested for having a few marijuana cigarettes in their pockets.

Supreme Court Justice Carlos Fayt, who at one time supported laws that make personal use of marijuana illegal, told the state-run Telam news agency that "reality" changed his mind.

Argentina's action came amid growing momentum in Latin America toward decriminalization of possessing small amounts of certain drugs.

Mexico enacted a law Friday that decriminalizes possessing low quantities of most drugs, including marijuana, heroin, cocaine and LSD.

Earlier this year, a Brazilian appeals court ruled that possession of drugs for personal use is not illegal.

Analysts see the shift in attitude as recognition that current methods in the war on drugs are not working.

"It seems quite clear that drug policy based primarily on interdiction and enforcement has failed," said Robert Pastor, a Latin America national security adviser for President Jimmy Carter in the late 1970s. "Therefore, it's natural for people to stand back and ask, 'Is there a better way?' "

Pastor noted that some recent research has shown that handling drug use as a health challenge and focusing on treatment may be more efficient.

"What Argentina and Mexico are doing in many ways is blazing a new path," Pastor said.

Peter Hakim, president of the Inter-American Dialogue policy institute in Washington, sees a trend at work.

"It's all part of a harm-reduction approach," Hakim said, noting that policymakers are shifting away from getting rid of drugs and toward figuring out how to reduce harm to users and society.

Mexico has been considering decriminalization for several years, particularly under the administration of former President Vicente Fox, who held office from 2000-2006. But efforts by the Mexican congress toward decriminalization met with strong resistance from the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush.

"Mexico tried it under Fox and the U.S. got so snippety that they had to back down," Hakim said.
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President Obama's inauguration in January may have changed the calculus, analysts said. The Mexican congress passed the measure in April and President Felipe Calderon quietly signed it into law.

In a visit to the United States, Fox said in May a new approach is needed.

"I believe it's time to open the debate over legalizing drugs," he told CNN. "It must be done in conjunction with the United States, but it is time to open the debate."

Earlier this year, Fox's predecessor and two other former leaders of Latin American nations also called for the decriminalization of marijuana for personal use and a change in strategy in the war on drugs.

The three ex-presidents were members of the 17-nation Latin American Commission on Drugs and Democracy, which issued its recommendations in February after studying the issue for a year.

"The problem is that current policies are based on prejudices and fears and not on results," former Colombian President Cesar Gaviria said at a news conference in which the commission's recommendations were presented.

Former President Fernando Henrique Cardoso of Brazil said the group called for only the decriminalization of marijuana and not other illicit drugs because "you have to start somewhere."

Fox's predecessor, Ernesto Zedillo, was president of Mexico from 1994 to 2000. Gaviria was president of Colombia from 1990 to 1994. And Cardoso led Brazil from 1995 to 2002.

In his swing through the United States, Fox said any change in drug laws must be accompanied by an education campaign in schools and homes. And because the United States is a large consumer of marijuana that comes from Latin America, any steps toward legalization must be supported in Washington, he said.

Gaviria had said in February that the time was right to start a debate on the subject because of the new administration in Washington.

"In many states in the United States, as is the case in California, they have begun to change federal policies with regard to tolerating marijuana for therapeutic purposes. And in Washington there's some consensus that the current policy is failing," Gaviria said.

The Inter-American Dialogue's Hakim said one recent poll showed that 29 percent of Americans think the best way to deal with marijuana is to legalize it.

Pastor, the former Carter official, wondered whether anyone in Washington is paying attention.

"The question," he said Tuesday, "is whether the United States will be open to this new path."

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