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Are Bush's Secrets Safe With Obama?
Now President Barack Obama holds the power to reveal them, but some of his allies may be disappointed when he doesn’t pull back the curtain as far — or as fast — as they would like.
The documents still under wraps stem from the hottest scandals and controversies of the Bush era: warrantless wiretapping, alleged torture of prisoners in the war on terror, the abrupt dismissal of a batch of U.S. attorneys in 2006 and a criminal investigation into the White House’s involvement in the leak of a CIA operative’s identity.
Obama signed two orders calling for government openness but also said he’d rather turn the page on some Bush-era fights than rehash them. Still, he and his aides may feel pressure to lay the cupboards bare — all in the name of transparency, the mantra of his presidential campaign.
But what Obama must remember is this: Whatever he releases retroactively about Bush might well be released someday about his own administration’s inner workings and private debates. And that’s enough to give any president pause.
“A president that sets the tone of openness and demands it of others would be held ultimately, I think, to the same standards,” said Douglas Kmiec, a former Justice Department official under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. He backed Obama in November. “I’d hope the new president would say, ‘Amen.’ Of course, it’s easier to say, ‘Amen’ in the abstract when you’re not at issue.”
A liberal group that peppered the Bush administration with requests for sensitive records — and with lawsuits when those requests were refused — says there’s no sign yet that Obama’s pronouncements have affected scores of pending court cases over those disputes.
“We haven’t seen any practical evidence of any change,” said Anne Weissman, chief counsel for Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. “Everybody’s waiting to get some concrete evidence of what this means. ... If all the litigation goes forward — status quo, there’s going to be a huge sense of disappointment, a feeling of betrayal.”
Attorney General Eric Holder has promised to review the Bush administration’s use of the state secrets privilege to shield controversial anti-terror practices. But in the first case to come to court since Obama took office, the Justice Department on Monday defended the use of state secrets to block a lawsuit over extraordinary renditions, the practice of sending terror suspects to be imprisoned in foreign countries.
Here are the top Bush-era secrets that could finally see the light of day under Obama — or not.
U.S. attorney firings/Justice Department politicization
In 2007, Bush invoked executive privilege to keep Karl Rove and other top officials from testifying to Congress about the White House’s role in the firing of U.S. attorneys, as well as about allegations of political interference in prosecutions.
Four days before Bush left office, then-White House counsel Fred Fielding sent Rove a letter, first reported by Newsweek, saying “the president continues to direct him” not to testify. On Jan. 27, House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) sent Rove a fresh subpoena, reigniting the issue before the new Congress.
Rove’s lawyer promptly turned the issue over to the office of Obama’s White House counsel, which will have to decide whether to back Bush, hang Rove and him out to dry or seek some middle ground.
Reporters were tantalized and then disappointed when Vice President Dick Cheney was mentioned as a likely defense witness for his former chief of staff, Lewis Libby, during his 2007 trial in the CIA leak investigation. Libby was convicted, but defense lawyers never called Cheney to the stand, leaving aspects of his role murky.
Later that year, Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.) demanded copies of interviews that Cheney, Bush and other top officials did with the special prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald. The Justice Department ultimately handed over the interviews with most White House officials but refused to cough up the Bush and Cheney interviews.
Weissman’s group sued for the Cheney statements. The Justice Department is fighting the suit, arguing that turning over the records “could significantly undermine future Department of Justice criminal investigations involving official White House activities.”
“I think it’ll be a really good show of support for [Obama’s] policy if Obama or the AG just say we’re going to disclose it,” Weissman said.
Likely verdict: Fitzgerald didn’t object to releasing the Bush or Cheney interviews, so Obama might well put them out. But he recently did his own interview with Fitzgerald’s investigators — in the case of Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich — and might decide a little presidential privilege here isn’t a bad thing.
The ‘torture’ memos
About 40 legal opinions the Justice Department drafted under President Bush on interrogation, rendition and other war-on-terror policies remain secret despite aggressive efforts by Congress and outside groups to bring the memos to light.
“Only a handful have come out,” said Jameel Jaffer, of the American Civil Liberties Union, which is pressing Obama officials to release them. “One actually lists the interrogation methods they can use. We got a very, very redacted copy of that. ... Another talks about military operations inside the U.S.”
The memos will show how Bush administration officials pushed the legal envelope after the Sept. 11 attacks and just how accommodating Justice Department officials were to those requests.
Likely verdict: Almost all the memos will be released — at least in part — though some specific techniques may be held back. “We don’t say, ‘Release them wholesale.’ We say, ‘Release as much you can,’” Jaffer said.
Bush’s secret prisons directive
One of the first actions Obama took as president was to shut down a program under which the CIA ran secret prisons at “black sites,” reportedly in Thailand, Afghanistan, Romania, Poland and other countries. Bush mothballed the program in recent years but never formally closed it.
The marching orders for the secret prison program were set out by Bush in a presidential directive in 2001. “We’ve been fighting for this document now for five years,” Jaffer noted.
The CIA and perhaps the State Department are likely to resist official confirmation of the countries that hosted such facilities, especially if officials have publicly denied it. Confirming details of the prisons program could also upset investigations into who leaked its existence to The Washington Post back in November 2004.
Likely verdict: The Bush CIA-prisons directive will come out as part of an Obama-led cleansing for war-on-terror wrongs, but the names of specific countries will be left out to help them save face.

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Show AllWhen "We the People" don't have oversight of our "elected" officials and their decisions and behaviors, we live in a dictatorship each time a president and congress is elected. Shouldn't we be the ones deciding what is good for us, and how our country should "act" in the world community? We need better access to, and greater accountability from our government. We need access to the same information that informs our government on world and domestic issues. On actions that carry grave consequences such as going to war, I believe there needs to be a national referendum before a declaration of war, and no forces should be sent to another country without that declaration. We all have family members in the armed forces. I am not comfortable with a "compromised by lobbyist government representative" making a life and death decision about the future of one of my family members. Our country's actions are more transparent to the outside world than they are to it's citizens. Some "changes" will probably never happen!
Looks like Obama is using the States Secret Privilege, just as Bush did, to protect Bush and Cheney.
From Glenn Greenwald at Salon:
Obama fails his first test on civil liberties and accountability -- resoundingly and disgracefully
Two weeks ago, I interviewed the ACLU's Ben Wizner, counsel to 5 individuals suing the subsidiary of Boeing (Jeppesen) which had arranged the Bush administration's rendition program, under which those 5 plaintiffs had been abducted, sent to other countries and brutally tortured. Today the Obama administration was required to file with the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals its position in this case -- i.e., whether it would continue the Bush administration's abusive reliance on the "state secrets" privilege to prevent courts from ruling on such matters, or whether they would adhere to Obama's previous claims about his beliefs on "state secrets" by withdrawing that position and allowing these victims their day in court.
Yesterday, enthusiastic Obama supporter Andrew Sullivan wrote about this case: "Tomorrow in a federal court hearing in San Francisco, we'll find out if the Obama administration intends to keep the evidence as secret as the Bush administration did." As I wrote after interviewing Wizner two weeks ago: "This is the first real test of the authenticity of Obama's commitment to reverse the abuses of executive power over the last eight years." Today, the Obama administration failed that test -- resoundingly and disgracefully:
From ABC News:
Obama Administration Maintains Bush Position on 'Extraordinary Rendition' Lawsuit
The Obama Administration today announced that it would keep the same position as the Bush Administration in the lawsuit Mohamed et al v Jeppesen Dataplan, Inc.
A source inside of the Ninth U.S. District Court tells ABC News that a representative of the Justice Department stood up to say that its position hasn't changed, that new administration stands behind arguments that previous administration made, with no ambiguity at all. The DOJ lawyer said the entire subject matter remains a state secret.
This is not going to please civil libertarians and human rights activists who had hoped the Obama administration would allow the lawsuit to proceed.
Full and unedited:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/02/09/state_secrets/
** This means that Obama, after condemning Bush secrecy, plans to use the States Secret Privilege to hide all manner of crimes, this being his first. The Unitary Executive Theory Lives On. As I wrote yesterday Obama is Trojan Horsing in all the most extreme powers Bush crudely accreted for the exective. When 2012 rolls around and Jeb Bush is sworn in he'll have to thank Obama for doing the heavy lifting (the clumsy and befuddled McCain could never deliver these powers). No one will ever question whether a President is above the law. Obama just verified that he is. When does the IMPEACHMENT start?
The lawyer for one of those defendants noted, on NPR this morning, that the position of the lawyers for the new administration was identical to that of the Bush lawyers....Meet the new boss same as the old boss?
OK in fairness there hasnt been enough time to assess policies and practices as yet.
"Most people would sooner die than think, in fact they do so." Bertrand Russell
Sioux Rose
CYGNUS: Pretty heavy what your post reveals. Like others in the forum I was afraid Obama would be the new face on corporate America, brand USA, business (war) as usual; and as a few informed souls in this forum pointed out, he'd make a few cosmetic changes, toss a few crumbs, but ultimately the machinery of state would continue to plunder on moving consistently to the right.
One need not be a Cassandra to see the writing on the wall. Ours, a police state armed with tasers or worse, laws to protect protest & free speech & privacy broken down to be almost useless, and the new president endowed with all those wonderful unitary executive privileges that render our Constitution (and its built-in checks and balances) a nuisance. Added to all the money thrown at the engineers of corruption, so there's little left in the pot for what is GENUINELY needed by citizens. It all seems too BAD to be true.
It appears that the goal is to allow Bush and his administration to be thought of as "criminal" but to use that as political advantage in making change, while not actually imposing legal verdicts on the last eight years or tying his hands on the use of his own power. While it is important for the President, and Government to have power and flexibility, it should always be remembered that there is a principle document, the Constitution which stands beyond the flexibility of the moment. Like the laws of grammar, or music composition, when they are violated -- they change should stand out, and be addressed. It appears that we have been so flexible with constitutional interpretations, that we no longer hear or see our departures from the norm. If we are to remain faithful to our heritage of freedom (sad chapters and failures as well) we need to uphold and honor the Constitution. I hope any hearings are targeted, limited, and effectively concluded with verdict, sentencing, and/or pardon. But let's know the truth, stay away from the witch hunt or political payback, and move forward. Obama basically has the right stance, but he might be forced to lead, so that it neither gets swept under the rug, nor mired in endless political fights after then facts.
Justice is about the past and always was. They can never make me forget.
Was there not a War Against the Peace? A War of Aggression resulting in the death of approxiamately 1 million Iraqis? I am not up to speed on international law but it does not seem fair that a superpower can invade and occupy a country on a whim. Then there is Afghanistan. And why have we not re-joined the International Criminal Court? Signed the landmine and clutterbomb bans joining with the mostly sane world? Hey I thought this is the Good Guy president!
Give him some time! He's been in there 3 weeks.
Like how long, 8 years? It's your president who's screwing up big time. Oh we'll give him time alright but keep defending him and watch him get punished starting with Congress in 2010 and him in 2012.
6 months seem about right to me. And as to the 2010 and 2012 elections...his approval rating is hovering around 70%.
His approval rating is not the issue,that can rise or fall in meteoric fashion ,though giving him a bit more time seems fair enough. This guy is a constitutional lawyer though and one might expect that justice would hit the ground running.....
"Most people would sooner die than think, in fact they do so." Bertrand Russell
True enough. My point is that though progressives may be outraged by perceived Obama failures, the vast majority seem quite satisfied. Showing, I think, how marginalized the left is today.
When you say "vast majority" would you be referring to those almost 50% who do not vote? Would you mean those who always vote democratic no matter who runs or what the issues happen to be? Who exactly are these throngs?
I would offer that real progressives are not outraged by Obama's lack of immediate action because they expected no such action.
Of course the left is marginalized, just as once, before Karl Rove found them a fertile field, the religious right was as well.
"The only reason to be engaged in politics is to be out there all alone and then be proven right." Edmund Muskie
"Most people would sooner die than think, in fact they do so." Bertrand Russell
Obama's blowing it here. He's closing Gitmo, stopping torture, and it seems he's stopping rendition, but when it comes to exposing and prosecuting the crimes of Bush and his ilk, he's failing big time. Jim Glover has it exactly right when he says that justice is about the past. Past will be prologue if we don't expose and prosecute! He says he wants to look forward. What better way to look to the future then to correct the wrongs of the past.
No one's above the law---unless you worked in a past administration that is....
Stopping rendition?? Did you read the 10:29 post?
Yes, it deals with holding past actions secret---I've seen nothing anywhere that says he will continue the program. If you have information that says he WILL continue it please leave a link.
And you were out there attacking those bringing up those red flags all last year.
I have no idea what you're talking about. If you're referring to my past support for Obama, it remains in place. The only alternative was McCain, and you can be sure that things would be much worse if he were in there now.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/02/09-13
All together, I'm quite pleased with the moves Obama has made so far. In this case---exposing and prosecuting Bush's crimes---I'm not.
Obama's been doing a great job. I think, if anything, he's proven all those people waving red flags wrong.
I understand the desire to prosecute Bush, but it would be a futile effort. Bush is untouchable. So instead of wasting time on that, which could be a humiliating defeat for Obama, I feel that we should move forward.
We got over Nixon when all we had was Ford, now we have Obama, therefore we should have no problem getting over Bush. Let him languish in obscurity as the most reviled person in the world.
One dimensional alert......Joe, try and wrap your mind around prosecuting administration figures who violated the constitution. Alberto Gonzales comes to mind, Cheney for war profiteering, too bad we cant nail Rumsfeld for incompetence, not a crime.
The actions of the Bush administration far, far surpass the violations of Nixon's gang. We stand before the world exposed as torturers, our naked greed and ignorance of our own laws make us laughingstocks. No patriotic American should be silent on this issue, we all of us should be insisting on investigations certainly and prosecutions and convictions if necesary.
"Most people would sooner die than think, in fact they do so." Bertrand Russell
"Joe, try and wrap your mind around prosecuting administration figures who violated the constitution. Alberto Gonzales comes to mind, Cheney for war profiteering, too bad we cant nail Rumsfeld for incompetence, not a crime."
Sure it sounds nice, of course it does, but where will we wind up when all those prosecutions either fail or drag on for decades? What if they turn into a huge debacle that distracts from dealing with the withdrawal from Iraq, the Afghan War, and economic crisis? What if it turns into a humiliating defeat for Obama that then costs him the election in 2012? Are you comfortable with the words "President Palin"?
I think Obama can proactively and pragmatically roll-back the abuses of the Bush administration in a way that heals the nation. If Bush can use the powers of the Presidency to change the law then so can Obama. We just need to be as blatant about undoing what Bush did as he was blatant about doing it.
"The actions of the Bush administration far, far surpass the violations of Nixon's gang."
If you're just thinking about Watergate, sure, but if you include COINTELPRO, the Vietnam War, expanding the war into Laos and Cambodia, and Kent State then they seem quite comparable. Although the current economic crisis is way worse than the economic stagnation of the 70's, you can also credit Nixon with unilaterally canceling the Bretton Woods system, setting the stage for the economic speculation that at least partially caused our current problems.
I suggest you read Glenn Greenwald's piece on this subject today. The state secrets act is not meant to cover-up wholesale crimes committed in office. The law is being corrupted. Obama promised openness. This is not.
If Bush is let off, then next time it will be precedent.
Obama is NOT stopping rendition:
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/02/10-3 Under Obama, Same Stance on Rendition Suit:
" Obama's nominee for CIA director, Leon Panetta, said last week that he approved of rendition for foreign prosecution or brief CIA detention, but not for extended confinement. Like his Bush administration predecessors, he also said he would require a foreign government to promise not to torture a prisoner."
The key here is "like his Bush administration predecessors." Obama's "change we can believe in" is turning out to be the same old crap, and it turns my stomach to read that Panetta said that, like his Bush administration predecessors, he would require a foreign government to promise not to torture a prisoner. We have already seen what a lie those "promises" were, and now when the victims of the torture facilitated by the U.S. government go to the courts for redress, Obama is on the same page as Bush: no justice for victims of U.S. crimes.
The up side is that, since rendition is okay with Obama, we can hope someone will render Rumsfeld et al right off the streets of D.C. and Dallas to a country that will try them all for war crimes: http://www.metimes.com/Opinion/2009/02/10/rumsfelds_prosecution_could_set_precedent/7244/
"Rumfeld's Prosecution Could Set Precedent." "There is now enough evidence to try former U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for war crimes, declared recently Manfred Nowak, the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Torture, to "Frontal 21," a German television program."
It seems ambiguous. This, from the article you mention:
"Obama has issued orders banning torture and closing secret CIA prisons, his administration has sent mixed signals on extraordinary rendition and the legitimacy of court challenges."
Bush was sending these people to countries that were torturing them for us, in secret CIA prisons. Obama wants to send them to countries for trial---while banning the prisons and torture.
A subtle but important difference. Still, this goes far beyond the usual practice of local police arresting suspects within their own country, and then extraditing them to countries where they're wanted. Any secret rendition is too similar to kidnapping, and should be explicitly outlawed---and may already be illegal...
madcow 1:22 ------- The countries to which people are rendered; trials are torture and prison, thats why they are choosen.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of
patriots and tyrants. ....Thomas Jefferson
Let the revolution begin.........
Obama MUST expose, arrest, try, convict, and execute the war criminal Bush/Cheney administration. To not to would make him an accessory after the fact.
nuremberg ii 2009
Um, the answer was an obvious YES from the get go. Nowhere did Obama indicate his intentions of holding the Bush gang accountable. Besides, he's "bailing" them out like he did Wall $treet.
-“But what Obama must remember is this: Whatever he releases retroactively about Bush might well be released someday about his own administration’s inner workings and private debates. And that’s enough to give any president pause. “
Oh horror! To think that the details of the crimes of your government should see the light of day, and that such disclosure might deter the next torture president! Let’s hope that Obama doesn’t set such a high standard Mr. Gerstein. We don’t want to tie the hands of current or future law breaking administrations.
Or, alternatively why doesn’t Obama just obey the law? Then, he won’t, like, Bush, have anything to fear from open government.
I suppose someone could call searching for the truth "hashing", but it certainly couldn't be called "rehashing" since there never was any "hashing" in the first place.
Given that Roosevelt's diaries (and ultimate evidence that the US planned the false flag operation and goaded Japan to attack in 1941) are still under lock and key, it is highly unlikely that critical Bush Administration documents will ever see the light of day.
Such is the nature of the American National Security State.
Never criticize a man until you've walked a mile in their moccasins - Native American proverb.
Sorry.
Are Bush's Secrets Safe With Obama?
Yes. A few tidbits, low on the Richter Scale of political damage, will be exposed to keep everyone appeased and quiet. We'll all be long gone when the truth, or most of it, or a good part of it, finally comes out. As I always say about the Damnocrats, if you co-own the franchise, you're not going to admit that the product is shite. They will never admit how truly rotten and low the United States government became under George Wanker Bush and Cheesedick Cheney.
Since Obama is ethical he should be happy with other powers rendering people out of the USA. This sounds so much like making sausages. Did you know New Guinea cannibals prefer Japanese people over the too salty Caucasians?
'They will never admit how truly rotten and low the United States government became under George Wanker Bush and Cheesedick Cheney.'
Eventually the whole truth will come out. Probably after most of our children are dead, and their children have something else to worry about that makes the bush years look like a golden age. In part that's because of why we have government to begin with, they're the nastiest crooks out there. When the government isn't the nastiest of bastards, then the ones who are the worst can take over. During times when government was weak, had no organised army or navy or little in the way of law, the ordinary folks had to deal with pirates on their own. Where did the phrase 'better the devil you know' come from...
What's happening now? The Democrats just now waking up to the fact that they elected Gerald Hussein Ford to the White House?
Are Bush's Secrets Safe With Obama? Of course.
To me, Josh Gerstein leaves out the important secret of the Bush era - the events surrounding 9/11/01.
Will Obama reopen an investigation? Will he succumb to public pressure? Does this "intelligent" president seriously believe the official 9/11 commission's report?
Reopening an investigation into the many questions and contradictions surrounding the events of 9/11 will reveal, once and for all, the corrupt basis of the American Empire.
Of course Emperor Obama will find excuses not to reopen this can of worms.
I'm sure THEY realize the truth of 9/11 will bring down the government. IMHO, this is what needs to happen. Will it? Only with relentless pressure from the movement. THEY must all know and will do what they must to protect their own status. The truth will set them free and us.
"But what Obama must remember is this: Whatever he releases retroactively about Bush might well be released someday about his own administration’s inner workings and private debates. And that’s enough to give any president pause."
This quote illustrates beyond reproach why the Federal Government as an institution is broken beyond repair and is in wholesale need of Evolution, as one of the Anti-Federalists's primary arguments has proven correct--Too much power is vested in the Executive. I have suggested that a Fourth Branch of government is needed, which removes a considerable amount of both Executive and Legislative power. But just tacking a new institution onto the whole failed edifice will not be enough, I have realized. Evolution is a slow process, but it will work much better within US culture than Revolution and consists of much more than mere regime change.
Obama has already proven he will not enforce the laws of the land and uphold the Constitution, and as such, he is no better than BushCo. This sort of behavior is no longer appropriate, as if it ever really was, and is one of the primary reasons why the Statue in New York harbor is such an affront to the planet's people--one of the Biggest Lies of all, the Statue of Liberty. In order to merit that statue's meaning, the USA must evolve by ridding itself of an institution that gives the lie to that statue and replace it with an institution that will be incapable of performing the sins that gave rise to Big Lie USA.
I'm frankly a bit surprised that Josh Gerstein's article omits all mention of what I consider the two biggest areas of genuine policy concern that remain solidly hidden from public view by the Bush/Cheney administration's cynical, self-serving assertions of classified national security/state secrets privilege.
What about all the documents sought and witheld from Congress and from the 911 Commission by the Bush/Cheney White House about the WTC and Pentagon attack?
What about all the documents concerning how US intelligence was "being fixed around the policy" in the run-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, as referenced in the Downing Street memos? Or, in a directly related line of inquiry, what about the paper trail of Dick Cheney's energy task force wheelings and dealings over Iraqi oil reserves?
Yes, sacking US Attorney office professionals for partisan reasons, torture, secret prisons, and rendition are high crimes and misdemeanors, too.
But it seems to me that if Barack Obama wants to really send a meaningful, long term message that keeping a past administrations' secrets still secret is no longer sacrosanct where criminal wrongdoing is concerned (bipartisanship be damned), then the new team should start by declassifying the lies which have left the most innocent blood on the floor.
Bill from Saginaw
Yup.
If BHO wants to stand next to Lincoln, this would be a good place to start.
Deepa
Are "these" Bush's secrets or US secrets? Could Bush do "these" without the unquestioning support of majority of "patriotic Americans"?
If Obama wants to tell his children like ours have been told, that it was Iraq
who destroyed the New York World Trade Center, a choice he has to make.
However, we need the truth now, that it was men from Saudi Arabia, for the
record, and we are in Iraq on false pretences. If it is convenient for Obama
to go along with this Fairy-tale, his administration will pay the price.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of
patriots and tyrants. ....Thomas Jefferson
Men from Saudi Arabia? Please........... do some serious research.
... Iraq is now Obama's war.
... Pakistan is now Obama's war.
... Afghanistan is now Obama's war.
... The Republican-like bailout of the thieves and criminals on Wall Street is now Barack Obama's bailout of the thieves and criminals on Wall Street.
... Bush, McCain and the rest of the Republican party's wish to increase the Pentagon budget is now Obama's directive that the Pentagon budget be increased.
... Hillary, Bush, McCain and the Republican's opposition to single-payer healthcare is and has been for a long time Barack Obama's opposition to single-payer healthcare.
... Bush's Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, is now Barack Obama's Secretary of State.
... Declarations of the kind George Bush made about gangsters such as Ariel Sharon, that he is, according to George Dubya, "a man of peace" ... are now matched by how far Barack Obama's nose is up the ass of AIPAC ... swearing that he smells roses.
Barack Obama, you're nothing but a mouthpiece for Corporate America. Where would you be without all the dough they gave you during the 2008 campaign? Significantly more dough than they gave John McCain. Significantly more dough than they gave George Bush in either 2004 or 2000.
DPAers (Democratic Party Apologists) -- you got your "Anybody But Bush," and guess what -- he bears a striking resemblance to all the rest of the Democratic-Republican mouthpieces for the oligarchic-few.
If George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, et al are war criminals for what they've done in Iraq and Afghanistan, then what is Barack Obama for continuing those wars and threatening to start new wars in other countries (re. Pakistan and Iran)?
Every death in those countries is blood on the hands of Saint Obama.
Are Bush's secrets safe with Barack Obama? ... Did Al Gore challenge the theft of the 2000 Election? Did Richard Nixon challenge JFK's theft of the 1960 Election? ... One might just as easily ask a question once posed by Nelson Algren. ... "However do Senators get so close to God?"
When you sit back and watch these wars on TV tonight, I hope you remind yourself that they're also your wars.
That's somewhat true but then you're only going by some poll numbers when no one was actually paying attention back then. I'm still not giving up putting pressure on Obama to overturn the 72 year ban on hemp for fuel so that we can get out of our dependence on foreign oil and make a stronger case for stopping these wars for oil. Think about it. Grow your own oil that's great for the environment and it's no longer illegal and guess what? They will find it harder to justify invading a nation for oil.
Terrance Mitchell
Redfield, South Dakota
Fine. How do we solve the problem of a failed institution when that institution is the national government?
Deepa -
A majority of patriotic Americans would be very interested in knowing how the nation's military command headquarters was attacked in broad daylight by a highjacked civilian airliner with no air defenses anywhere in sight, despite billions upon billions of dollars having been spent, decade upon decade, to create the most sophisticated air defense system on the planet.
A majority of patriotic Americans would also be very interested in complete declassification of all the foreign intelligence agencies' warnings to the Bush national security team during the summer and early fall of 2001, even if disclosure of that information was potentially embarrassing.
A majority of patriotic Americans would like to know why we were told boogey man stories about Iraqi nuclear weapons of mass destruction, yellow cake from Africa, vials of anthrax, and mythical connections between Saddam and Osama when the story tellers knew all along that the CIA's best intelligence analysts were saying the exact opposite.
These were Bush secrets, not US secrets.
Now that so many bodies have been buried, so many lies obviously told (and a decent time interval has passed), those secrets should should be unearthed, and looked at in the light of day.
That is how open, responsible government in a democratic society is supposed to work.
Bill from Saginaw
Yup.
If BHO wants to stand next to Lincoln, this would be a good place to start.