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Obama Boxed In by Generals on Afghanistan
Just back from Afghanistan, Marine Commandant, Gen. James Conway held a news conference Tuesday to add his voice to the Pentagon campaign to disparage the July 2011 date President Barack Obama set for U.S. troops to begin leaving Afghanistan.
Conway claimed that intelligence intercepts suggest that this deadline has strengthened the conviction of those resisting the U.S.-led occupation that it is just a matter of time before most foreign forces leave.
Thus, Conway:
"In some ways ... it's probably giving our enemy sustenance. ... We think he may be saying to himself ... ‘Hey, you know, we only have to hold out for so long.'"
Conway, however, was quick to reassure supporters of the war in Afghanistan that Taliban morale is likely to drop when, "come the fall [of 2011] we're still there hammering them like we have been."
Conway began his press conference by adding a new measure to the refrain led by Gen. David Petraeus, commander of U.S. and allied forces in Afghanistan, that considerable time will be required before Afghan forces can take over from U.S. troops.
The Marine general said, "I honestly think it will be a few years before conditions on the ground are such that turnover will be possible for us," adding, "When some American unit somewhere in Afghanistan will turn over responsibilities to Afghan forces in 2011, I do not think they will be Marines."
President Obama and his generals have emphasized that any withdrawal will be "conditions based," much as President George W. Bush did regarding Iraq. But setbacks in Afghanistan over the past several months -- in particular, the failure of the large Marine campaign to secure Marja, a rural area of Helmand province -- have made it abundantly clear that "conditions" are not likely to favor more than a token withdrawal next July.
On a June visit to Afghanistan, Joint Chiefs Chairman, Adm. Mike Mullen discussed the setbacks with Washington Post columnist David Ignatius. Mullen admitted, "We underestimated some of the challenges" in Marja, which the Marines tried to clear in March, only to have Taliban fighters return.
"They're coming back at night, the intimidation is still there," said Mullen. Marja had been widely advertised by the Pentagon as the warm-up for driving the Taliban out of Kandahar beginning in June 2010.
The U.S. military postponed the campaign against Kandahar in May, and Mullen conceded that, "It's going to take until the end of the year to know where we are" there.
Top Brass vs. President
The Obama administration's reluctance to discipline senior generals for comments bordering on insubordination seems to have encouraged the generals to believe they can speak their mind with impunity about President Obama's management of the Afghan conflict.
The exception to this rule was the extraordinary case of Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who was commander of U.S. and allied forces in Afghanistan until he became the subject of a Rolling Stone article, "Runaway General," in which McChrystal and his military inner circle were quoted as mocking Obama and the civilian leadership.
The title had an ironic twist since the derogatory comments enabled McChrystal to run away from the consequences of his stumbling war effort, by getting himself fired. After Marja and the abject failure of his campaign to win hearts and minds of most Afghans, McChrystal knew better than anyone that the war was hopeless.
Crusty old Marines like Gen. Conway do not run away -- they no longer "fade away," either. Scheduled to retire this fall after 40 years, he also isn't angling for some big promotion. Nor is he inclined to sugarcoat military realities in order to calm political nerves in Washington and elsewhere in the country.
Conway has spoken out before against what he considered -- legitimately, in my view -- arrogant politicians trying to micromanage Marine offensives in ways that caused needless killing of his Marines. For instance, he objected to the Bush administration's cavalier use of Marines to crush resistance in Fallujah, Iraq, in the spring of 2004. (See below for more detail on Conway's experience in Fallujah.)
So Gen. Conway let loose at Tuesday's press conference, pointing out "The President was talking to several audiences at the same time when he made his comments regarding July 2011." Implication: The July 2011 date was pure politics; there was no military justification for the deadline then; and there is certainly no military justification for it now.
Conway may be insubordinate, but he is also correct about that.
Obama tried to have it both ways, giving the hawks in his administration the escalation they wanted while offering the doves in his political base a fixed date for beginning a troop withdrawal. Such cleverness can work sometimes in politics, but it won't work in a difficult war like the one in Afghanistan.
However much Obama may have resented it, by last fall he had to admit to himself that he had been thoroughly outmaneuvered by high-profile generals. Take McChrystal, for example, who was well known to have run special operations assassination squads for five years in Iraq under the aegis of Vice President Dick Cheney. McChrystal also demonstrably lied about who killed football-star-turned-soldier Pat Tillman in Afghanistan.
And yet, Obama couldn't say no, when Defense Secretary Robert Gates and the Pentagon's most famous "water-walker," Gen. Petraeus, told the President to put McChrystal in charge of the war in Afghanistan.
Either from naiveté or hubris or a combination of both, Obama apparently felt he still could maintain some control over the situation through his persuasive skills. Instead, he found himself in a corner.
The Long Reassessment
During last year's long review of U.S. strategy in Afghanistan, McChrystal's recommendations for a major escalation of troops and an open-ended commitment for 10 years or more were leaked to the press. Joint Chiefs Chairman Mullen also made a public case for a long-term commitment, as did Petraeus, who was chief of the Central Command.
Then, during a public presentation in London on Oct. 1, 2009, McChrystal himself said he could not support a presidential decision to fight the war primarily with drone aircraft and Special Forces, the more limited approach advocated by Vice President Joe Biden.
Instead of firing McChrystal then, Obama on Oct. 2 gave the general a 25-minute counseling session on Air Force One. He then told Pentagon leaders to stop their public advocacy of McChrystal's proposals.
In the book, The Promise: President Obama, Year One, author Jonathan Alter said the President was sending the Pentagon "an unmistakable message: Don't toy with me." Obama wasn't going to let himself get backed into a corner, said Alter. Right.
Mullen and Gates were summoned to the White House, but all that emerged was a flaccid statement from Gates saying it was "imperative" that generals provide their advice "candidly but privately." Mullen did tell the generals to knock off the public campaign for a substantial troop buildup in Afghanistan, and the leaks mostly stopped.
However, Obama had been softened up politically. By October 2009, with the reassessment on Afghanistan having dragged on for months, Obama came under attack from former Vice President Dick Cheney and others for supposedly "dithering."
Yet, behind the scenes, other generals -- former ones, with less personal stakes in the Afghan War -- were resisting the push for major escalation.
James Jones, Obama's national security adviser and a former four-star general, had been pushing back against McChrystal and other hawks. Undercutting the rationale for escalation, Jones told the press on Oct. 4, 2009:
"I don't foresee the return of the Taliban. Afghanistan is not in imminent danger of falling. ... The al-Qaeda presence is very diminished. The maximum estimate is less than 100 operating in the country, no bases, no ability to launch attacks on either us or our allies."
In early November, Obama also received cogent, sober advice from his ambassador in Kabul, Karl Eikenberry, himself a former general who knew twice as much about Afghanistan as McChrystal and Petraeus put together. From 2002 to 2003, Eikenberry was responsible for training Afghan security forces. He then served 18 months (2005-2007) as commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan.
In two highly sensitive cables of Nov. 6 and 9, 2009, (the texts of which were almost immediately leaked by an unknown U.S. official to the New York Times), Eikenberry declared, "I cannot support [the Defense Department's] recommendation for an immediate Presidential decision to deploy another 40,000 here."
Damning McChrystal's recommendations with faint (and condescending) praise, Eikenberry described them as "logical and compelling within his [McChrystal's] narrow mandate to define the needs for a military counterinsurgency campaign within Afghanistan."
Eikenberry then went on to list a dozen compelling factors that would make adding more troops a fool's errand -- among them these three:
--Hamid Karzai was not and never would be "an adequate strategic partner;"
--"More troops won't end the insurgency as long as Pakistan sanctuaries remain ... and Pakistan views its strategic interests as best served by a weak neighbor;"
--"We overestimate the ability of Afghan security forces to take over ... by 2013."
(Who would be better qualified to make the judgment on security forces than the senior officer trying to build and train a fledgling, predominantly illiterate Afghan army from 2002 to 2003?)
Obama Bows to the Four-Stars
But Obama found himself outgunned politically by the pro-escalation crowd. Thanks in large measure to a fawning media, Gen. Petraeus and Gen. McChrystal enjoyed much higher public profiles that James Jones and Ambassador Eikenberry.
And, besides, if the U.S. and NATO failed to prevail in Afghanistan (whatever "prevail" might mean), the overly smart advisers in Obama's White House thought they could blame the generals. After all, the President was giving them what they had demanded.
This kind of reasoning seemed to persuade Obama to dismiss the informed commentary of Ambassador Eikenberry and national security adviser Jones, as well as the views of Vice President Biden. Whether Petraeus and McChrystal had it right or wrong, the politically smart ting to do would be to defer to them.
On Nov. 11, 2009, Veterans Day, Obama called his key advisers and generals together. According to Jonathan Alter, it was then that the President gave preliminary approval for 40,000 more troops to be sent to Afghanistan. But he wanted them in and out quickly.
The Pentagon was to prepare a "targeted" plan for protecting population centers, training Afghan security forces, and beginning a real -- not a token -- withdrawal within 18 months of the escalation.
Too Inexperienced & Too Clever by Half
Obama's dilemma was how to project an image of strength in the fight against the Taliban and still avoid letting Afghanistan become an albatross around his neck in 2011-2012 as the next presidential election drew near.
In Obama's calculation, the image of toughness was to come from giving the generals pretty much what they demanded to carry the fight to the Taliban. The albatross would be avoided, the President thought, by giving the generals a deadline -- a date on which U.S. troops would start coming home. Such a deadline would also be helpful in appeasing what used to be called Obama's base-more recently branded "the professional left."
The dual message was crafted presumably with the help of the inept folks who led the long assessment with the wrong conclusions -- functionaries like former CIA official Bruce Riedel and Ambassador Richard "we'll-recognize-success-when-
Next stop for Obama in deciding how to massage the message was to consult with his own inside group of political wheeler-dealers -- folks with long experience in Congress and in White House positions, such as chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, CIA Director Leon Panetta, former White House chief of staff John Podesta, and Joe Biden. With the help of this brain trust, Obama settled on what he thought would be a win-win solution -- for his administration, if not for U.S. troops. In the formal meeting on Nov. 29, Obama would get the top brass on record buying into the escalation and timetable. In other words, he would turn the tables on the generals, boxing them in for a change. According to Alter, the dialogue went like this: Obama: "David [Petraeus], tell me now. I want you to be honest with me. You can do this in 18 months?" Petraeus: "Sir, I am confident we can train and hand over to the ANA (Afghan National Army) in that time frame." Obama: "If you can't do the things you say you can in 18 months, then no one is going to suggest we stay, right?" Petraeus: "Yes, sir, in agreement." Mullen: "Yes, sir." Obama then asked Defense Secretary Gates if he had any problems with the scenario, eliciting a response from Gates saying he was fine with the decision. Obama: "I'm not asking you to change what you believe, but if you don't agree with me that we can execute this, say so now. Tell me now." Mullen: "Fully support, sir." Petraeus: "Ditto." Am I the only one who finds that scene extraordinary? Alter adds that as Biden walked with the President to the meeting, the Vice President asked if the new policy of beginning a significant withdrawal in 2011 was a direct Presidential order that could not be countermanded by the military. Obama said yes. That response no doubt accounts for the assurance that Biden later gave at the end of an interview in his West Wing office: "In July 2011 you're going to see a whole lot of people moving out [of Afghanistan]. Bet on it. Bet on it." I imagine that this is not the first foolish bet Joe Biden has made. How naïve for him and Obama to think that they had the generals boxed in and that the generals -- along with their powerful allies -- could not figure out some way to insist that a change in circumstance necessitated a longer time frame or additional resources. The next two years are far more likely to witness a Donnybrook between the Pentagon and White House, as the security situation in Afghanistan continues to deteriorate and Petraeus -- now commander of U.S. and allied forces in Afghanistan, with his vaunted reputation riding on success -- inevitably demands more troops. Can Obama really believe that Petraeus will honor his Nov. 29 pledge; that when things go really bad in Afghanistan the beribboned general will say, "Shucks, I was wrong"; and then tuck tail, forfeiting any ambition he may harbor eventually to run for President? With all due respect, President Obama and Vice President Biden, I wouldn't bet on it. Gen. Conway and Fallujah We are likely to hear more from Gen. James Conway before he retires this fall. The Marine Commandant has been outspoken for over five years -- and with very good reason since his Marines were often the ones bearing the brunt of the fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, at times taking casualties because of politically inspired orders that made no military sense. After turning over command of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force in Iraq in early September 2004, Conway let not a day pass before excoriating higher officials for misguided, counterproductive orders to attack the Iraqi Sunni stronghold of Fallujah in retaliation for the brutal killing of four U.S. Blackwater contractors on March 31, 2004. Conway did not repeat the criticism of UN envoy in Iraq, Lakhdar Brahimi, and many others who denounced the Fallujah offensive as "collective punishment," a war crime under international law. But the Marine general did observe that the attack "certainly increased the level of animosity that existed." Conway stressed the stupidity of ordering the attack, in which six Marines were killed and six more wounded, and then halting it just three days later. The reason for the rash order to attack and the sudden reversal related to concerns within George W. Bush's White House, first, that the killings of the contractors could not go unpunished, followed by the realization that the worsening war in Iraq could affect Bush's chances in the 2004 election. Conway found particularly galling what happened after he was ordered to break off the attack. A handful of former Iraqi generals were allowed to form the "Fallujah Brigade" and were put in charge of the city. The 800 AK-47 assault weapons, 27 pick-up trucks and 50 radios that the Marines gave this "Brigade" wound up in the hands of the resistance, which remained in control of Fallujah. The equipment also was used against Marines positioned near the city. Asked who issued the order to attack and then halt, Conway would only say that he had advised against the attack in the first place but that "we follow our orders." According to The Washington Post, senior U.S. officials in Iraq said the command to attack and then desist originated in the White House. Just days after Bush won a second term in November 2004, the assault on Fallujah resumed with U.S. forces virtually leveling the city, partly in retribution for the dead Blackwater contractors and the humiliation that had been dealt the Bush administration. Eye for an Eye Most Americans are unaware of this sequence of events in Fallujah in 2004, but should know and ponder what actually happened. First, the Blackwater contractors had taken a wrong turn on March 29 and ended up in the wrong neighborhood in Fallujah. Western press accounts left the impression that the murder of the four Blackwater operatives was the work of fanatics who acted without provocation and eventually got -- along with thousands of their neighbors -- the punishment they deserved. Few are aware that the killings of the contractors represented the second turn in that particular cycle of violence. On March 22, 2004, Israeli forces assassinated in Gaza the spiritual leader of Hamas, Sheikh Yassin -- a withering old man, blind and confined to a wheel chair. The Blackwater operatives in Fallujah were killed by a group that described itself as the "Sheikh Yassin Revenge Brigade." One of the trucks that dragged the bodies of the mercenaries had a large poster of Yassin in its window, as did many Fallujah storefronts. Gen. Conway may already know the full story. As his retirement nears, he may feel free to point out the actual sequence of events stretching from Gaza to Fallujah and join other realists who have served in the U.S. military and noted the increased dangers to U.S. troops that flow from the widespread perception that U.S. policy is identical to that of Israel.
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But the rich own 80% of all our wealth, giving them 80% of all power and control, so why does Ray say that the rich have zero control over government?
For since 1776 we have been a Christian Empire, an anarchy controlled by the rich, a make believe government run by paid actors hand-picked by the rich, and to take care of rogue presidents like JFK we have a military leadership groomed by the rich and in total submission to the rich.
So well said. It is all about the Pentagon intimidating and boxing in the President. This was clearly described in the James Douglas book "JFK, The Unspeakable". This "blind" leadership is now being revealed by retired Col. Andrew Bacevich, now a professor at Boston University.
An eye for an eye: The Pentagon is composed of huge inflated male egos. This is what truly rules the Pentagon (and also by the egos of the rich). In such a case, there is no room for spiritual discernment, serious reflection and moral scrutiny. It is the dominance of the human ego that is destroying the world. Until American society understands how the human ego dominates those in power at the top, radical change is not possible.
Radical change can only come from below by way of honest public discernemt and democratic rule that is least corrupted by power and the human ego. More democracy is the key path to the maturity of humankind. But a materialistic American society has never understood the spiritual dynamics of Democracy, never mind know how to teach it in our churches, schools and universities.
The Penta-goons are winning this war because Obama is a man without principle. Like most of our politicians, his vision only extends to the next election. Falujah nad so many other atrocities are just political chess games--people die because politicians want to hang onto their power.
Since you read "JFK, The Unspeakable" perhaps you read the part about how the CIA had infiltrated all agencies of government and in essence gain control of policies and investigations.
The Military is on its own with absolutely no Congressional Oversight! When Donald Rumsfeld announced September 10,2001 that The Department of Defense could not account for 2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS of expenditures and then the very next day something strikes the Pentagon right where the audit was allegedly going on.
"Able Danger Group" was a secret intelligence operation either following Mohammed Atta or working with him. All evdence of that group's existence was destroyed and three witnesses who were willing to testify were muzzled by the Generals and who knows where they are now.
But, it is not The Generals who set the policy.....The policies for the past 40 years have been directed by Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski and their groups: The Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, and Bilderberg Club! They have had an idea of a "New World Order" and that idea has been parroted by George H Bush and Barack Obama in his Berlin Campaign Speech......One more war and it is a done deal!
Yeah, the JFK assassination was a milestone/turning point. Probably when the MIC took full control. And, they ARE in control. After the moon landing program, resources and research were then directed at controlling the high ground/the planet.
But, I'm not quite sure who's subservient to whom regarding the MIC and the Rich. While they clash for the top 1 & 2 positions, the citizenry–without question–occupies the bottom one.
Mr. Obama created the box in which he now finds himself entrapped. As Mr. McGovern knows, candidate Obama pledged to escalate the war in Afghanistan. He called it a "just" war in Olso, and pronouced it to be a war of "necessity" at West Point, not to mention that he broke historical precedent by keeping on George W. Bush's Secretary of Defense. Now Mr. McGovern wants to shift the onus to the "evil" generals. We did not have to go down this road. As President Clinton said during the campaign, the narrative that portrayed Obama as an anti-war candidate was a "fairy tale."
Abu Sahnt,
Well stated.
Chelsea
otheprez is bought and paid for, a creature of csis, and has made himself into a war criminal... he seems to be a kind of pathetic wimp playing at being prez...
I agree.
Depressing article, except dialogue of the November 29th meeting. To me that sounded like something out of a Mel Brook's movie. Petraeus must have been busting a gut to keep from laughing out loud. Obama is embarrassingly weak. He reminds me of an evil, self-serving version Louis XVI. I don't how many here have seen the movie "Marie Antoinette" with Norma Shearer, but there is a scene where Louis XVI (Robert Morley) was speaking to his troops on a rainy night. Anyway, after a few words the troops interrupted him with laughter, and it was pretty much all over after that. I tried to see if they had the clip on YouTube to post it here. But that was what popped into my head as I was reading this article.
Is a military coup slated in the near future?
It's already happened with the stolen elections of 2000 & 2004.
Thing is with so many willing cohorts in the political arena to kiss up to the military brass's aspirations for full fledged dominance there is no need to have an overt coup like in Argentina back in the 70's. Real power lurks in the shadows where the strings are pulled by way of facilitating capital to help promote and advance those sympathetic to the religion of American exceptionalism. In this draconian environment newfangled celebrities like Obama can only get to the illusory throne of power through a minimum of playing nice to the untouchables of American military might. The die is cast and the only reason Obama is President today is because the super-rich conglomerates behind the scenes understood well that in the end, all rhetoric aside he would definitely play ball by their rules. It's not so much that American democracy is broke, it's more like the John & Jane Does in the U.S. have been overwhelmingly outbid by the formidable economic powers always lurking in the shadows.
The selection of Bush in 2000 was a military coup as it was the late absentee military ballots that gave Bush the election, as determined illegally by the SCOTUS. Due to the electoral college a military coup does not have to be nation wide but just a few states. This has of course emboldened the military egos which are already too big being based on self congratulation since none of them have served in actual combat while displaying the medals taken from South American dead generals.
I think, sadly, a military coupe would have broad support in this nation.
"I think, sadly, a military coupe would have broad support in this nation."
I don't know about that. People are dumb enough to buy minivans dressed up to look like Humvees but I don't know whether a military-style coupé would have the same appeal.
The generals are smart enough to say they are supporting a democracy while they continue the consumer goods and the games. The people don't care who is running the show as long as the bread and games continue.
The generals are smart enough to say they are supporting a democracy while they continue the consumer goods and the games. The people don't care who is running the show as long as the bread and games continue.
I've always liked the idea of swords-to-ploughshares. The war is over...all you people go home and live your lives.
The establishment of a permanent military after WW2 has had lasting tragic consequences for the US, its citizens, the concept of self-rule and millions of people in the some 80 countries all over the world where these professional tough guys have had their way.
I've traveled all over this country and found most people to be decent, kindly...not belligerent or militaristic at all. (I know...there are exceptions). This practice of continually blowing people up doesn't reflect who we are. It's who the leaders are. They get us to accept their monstrousness with a steady flow of lies and propaganda. For a neat summary of the techniques used and why check out a new web-distributed film titled Psyop.
http://exposureroom.com/members/Durruti/f8bb07c6a12646e199602f6d16d53d55/
Agreed that most Americans have a decent, kind side.
I disagree that "This practice of continually blowing people up doesn't reflect who we are. It's who the leaders are."
That's taking the easy way out. We the people are all participating to varying degrees in this unsustainable American lifestyle (driving cars, buying cheap disposable phones and gadgets and clothes; eating fruits shipped from around the world -- basically silently profiting from the cheap oil our leaders get us thru military invasions, etc). I'm not saying that it's easy getting out of this quagmire, but... you and I are as involved in it as the leaders are - it's just our sphere of influence is a bit smaller. But the karma is the same.
Bottom line: if we really want a more just world, we can do it. Leaders have extraordinary temptations and more to lose (power, $$ prestige) that make it difficult for them to take the first step. We less wealthy, less prominent people have less to lose, so we have to initiate. You are waiting for the leaders to do a "fearles moral inventory" and be the change, and they are waiting for us to do it. It has to be us!
"Us"?
Something I find interesting about McGovern's writtings is how they reveal a certain segment of the social structure...so part of "us" seems to be finding out how to integrate and influence prevailing social structures: so it's a human to human consideration.
How are your human to human considerations?
Obama has to share the blame. It's his own damned fault for appointing a bunch of criminals to his Administration and to his cabinet in the first place.
Obama appointed like minded people to his cabinet.
Birds of a feather.........
Mr. McGovern claims that Obama is being "boxed in" by his generals. That belief would seem to belie the fact that the president, not the military, is in charge of this country. Since Obama is a Harvard graduate one would assume that would mean that Obama is a fairly intelligent person who would not allow himself to be unduly influenced by those who run the military.
Perhaps the issue should not be centered around Obama being boxed in by his generals as it should be focused upon whether or not Obama has the courage and wisdom to say no to further escalation in Afghanistan and elsewhere in the Middle East. But given the fact that Obama had no qualms in allowing his presidential campaign to receive millions from the insurance and pharmaceutical companies, one has to wonder if Obama is not so much being manipulated as he is in being in complete agreement with the hawkish policies that he is being presented by the military brass.
"Imperialism, like dictatorships, sears the soul, degrades the spirit, and makes individuals small, the better to rule them. Fear and cowardice are its allies. Imperialism is government of other people, by other people, and for other people."-Louis Fischer [1896-1970], American journalist
Wisdom and courage from Obama -- it just seems like such an exotic, foreign idea. Speaking of insurance companies, this was interesting yesterday. For those who remember the "outrage" over the proposed 39% increases in Anthem Blue Cross in California not that long ago, you will see what is going on here very clearly. A more "acceptable" 14% increase has now been approved. So this is how it will be done, the slower bleed that gets little notice in the press.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/25/anthem-blue-cross-rate-hi_0_n_694854.html
"Neither in McChrystal’s nor in Conway’s case is the issue one of genuine insubordination, at least in regard to the core policy in Afghanistan. The 30,000-troop surge into Afghanistan announced by Obama last December was a policy crafted by the military itself and meekly accepted by the White House. The withdrawal date mocked by the Marine general was merely window dressing for this escalation and will by no means signal a major withdrawal of US forces.
"This has been indicated by members of the Obama administration itself, including Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Vice President Joseph Biden, who announced to a veterans’ conference on Monday: “We are not leaving in 2011. We are beginning the transition.”
"Like its predecessor, the Obama administration is determined to pursue the original goals of the nine-year-old war in Afghanistan: establishing US hegemony over energy-rich Central Asia by military means."
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/aug2010/usmc-a27.shtml
Everyone who tithes the USA government is to blame, half of that money pays for death.
So Obama is looking for a way out, but only if he can triangulate, so he can get re-elected.
Gee what a surprise. You mean Obama is just another phony, lying psychopathic politician? Who would have guessed?
Good Grief.
The above poster has a President paid actor hiring another paid actor, and telling us that we must be careful to blame it all on the right paid actor.
But, how can we blame paid actors for bad decisions, when only the rich are allowed to make decisions?
Our make believe government running a smoke screen to hide the rich, dear lady be fooled not by such propaganda paid for by the rich.
Oh Jill, you've done it again: another clear, sharp, myth busting observation.
Interesting Jill - I didn't take this article as a defense of Obama at all. I took at as a in depth look at Obama's political manipulations to somehow appease everyone, as in "Look, we are winning the war and withdrawing!" This perspective came through pretty clearly to me.
Not anywhere does Mr. McGovern state Obomber is a man of peace or has any interest in doing what is best for Afghanistan and the citizens. Everything is presented as a game of politics. I think Mr. McGovern makes it clear the only considertation Obama has is his image and getting reelected - especially absolving himself of the blame if things go wrong.
Guess I just took the article differently. Also, Mr. McGovern is one of the most consistent voices against our unwarranted military follies.
If there is one thing Obama seems to be a master at when it comes to many is absolving himself of blame. He's done it beautifully when it comes to all those "sweeping" reform bills. Congress gets ALL of the blame. It's hard to say whether he can do this successfully with the generals. I did not see this article as defensive of Obama, either. As I commented earlier, that little dialogue at the end, that really didn't make Obama look very good. Like I said, worthy of a Mel Brooks' movie.
Jill, thanks for seeing things clearly while reading critically.
Al Capp the cartoonist put forth the idea in Lil' Abner that the populace could be "stupified" and thus rendered impotent. The Matrix presented that reality in a different form, but very few heeded either message. McGovern occasionally makes a useful observation, but he is otherwise a Gatekeeper, and was much more persuasive when Bush was Public Enemy #1.
DEMOCRACY -- STATE OF THE ART SLAVERY
Stephen V. Riley
“Radical change can only come from below by way of
honest public discernment and democratic rule that is
least corrupted by power and the human ego. More
democracy is the only path to the maturity of humankind.”
LIGHT
Society norm is it to feel that you deserve to “self-actuate, to be all you can be,” namely to own all you can own and to be a dictator over all who are on land that you own. Specifically to be a taker most greedy.
So, how does democracy work when most everyone feel's they deserve to be rich? Well they form a class society, band together in groups of equals and treat as equal only those who have equal or greater wealth. In our Christian Empire for example:
1% High Society
10% Country Club class
40% Educated middleclass
49% Laboring class
And so, democracy will always and forever be, the 51% most aggressive and wealthy establishing for themselves equality, surely economical slavery for the lower half of society.
Whereas, true socialism is where no one feel’s they deserve to be equal or strives to be treated as equal. For to be truly social, one must grasp the reality that this day of life is more then they deserve, and with such a grateful heart strive to equal the score by giving all they can give.
For the big debate over equality and how to establish for everyone equality, is that not a most stupid and insane quest for the impossible?
Obama bows to the "Four-Stars!"
David Michael Green, Professor of Political Science at Hofstra University in New York, puts his finger directly on the succinct rationale as to why Obama is really a "Do-Nothing" President and is failing.
I have been disappointed and, yes, even angered, by Obama's failure to act in the manner he promised he would during his election campaign with his often-shouted pledge to bring about the "change we can believe in." So far, I haven't seen any of it.
In his stunning essay, Professor Green explains very clearly why Obama deserves the title of "Do-Nothing President" and it will make you as angry as I am! His insights are remarkable! Read his compelling article at this site - you'll be shaking your head in agreement!
http://www.counterpunch.org/green06142010.html
Ray, Obama is not " boxed in by his Generals " he is just doing what he has been told to do by his Generals.
"Generals and majors always seem so unhappy 'less they got a war." (XTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCW6Kte2o1A
Great article.
Obama needs to break out of the box he put himself in. Only Barak can leave his box.
Peace is out side of the box.
He could order a new mission to defend the USA by building a sustainable infrastructure.
The military needs new orders that meet the modern requirements to defend the country.
I think they know now that modern wars go on forever but Empires and secrets do not.
Petraeous and his fellow sycophants should never haver been allowed into such high positions. I would expect him to ask for an additional 50,000 troops within a few more months since he feels his publicity as the "surger" will protect him. For some insane reason he still believes we can win the hearts and minds of the Afghans after too many 500 pounders are dropped on wedding parties and innocents. The new plan will be to step up the Phoenix plan in hopes of killing all the Taliban cadre.
That will P O even more people when more innocents get caught in the cross fire. The idea that we should stay in Afghanistan until the Army and police can stand alone is a joke. It's almost as stupid as the head of our Special Ops arguing to Congress that we need more Special Ops troops to look for WMD. Like these men have any knowlege of chemicals or nuclear physics.
War is the coin of the realm of these sociopaths, including Flopco/Obama whose latest ongoing fantasy is that he is some kind of warrior-poet like Gordon of Khartoum. Af-ganef-stan is not only Flopco/Obama's personal Stalingrad, it is the USA's as well.
What a bunch of bunk. As commander in chief, Obama can shut the whole overseas empire down and terminate the several wars and many occupations tomorrow. What he's supposedly "boxed in" by isn't "his" generals, it's the whole of the Imperial Establishment, of which the "generals" are only bit players.
Oh, poo. Stop making excuses for "bama".
Verdad, words mean nada, death means a lot... slaughter Is still slaughter...obomber IS a MASS murderer, along with the fascist amerikan military !
tioche, Mexico
Is it April First? Surely it must be with this headline.
Karloff and Jill summed it up nicely and thank you both.
De facto military junta. The MO is to keep Obama on the defensive. Look at the McChrystal debacle. Not making any excuses for the Obama administration but I have no doubt that there would be some assassinations if his administration were to step out of the box. But of course the administration won't because they are centrists and believe in this system where decisions are made on the basis of profit not on the basis of need. Also the Christian right is working 24/7 to make our armed services a Christian mission__with Christian mottoes on the weaponry, over doors to officials offices and things like prayer breakfasts.
Difference of opinion. Thank you.
"But of course the administration won't because they are centrists . . . "
Obama/Flopco is not a 'centrist' because there is no center, politically speaking, in the USA, just as there is no left. Obama/Flopco is to USA politics what lethal injection is to capital punishment. Sharron Angle and Glenn Beck are equivalent to gouging your eyes out with a dirty fork and then shooting you at point blank range with a dum-dum while your small children are forced to watch. But in both cases, you're D-E-A-D.
It's a cop-out giving your power away to Sharron Angle and Glen Beck with your "equivalent" rant. That's giving up without a fight. You still have the power of the underground press and your ability to work for getting out of Afghanistan like many other people are doing. Look at the bottom of the Common Dreams home page for all the resources you have to get organized and fight back.
" I have no doubt that there would be some assassinations if his administration were to step out of the box"
Oh, come off of it!
Difference of opinion. Thank you.
Is it just me or do these twits (generals) sound like chemical ali ?? Wasnt he the iraqi pol who kept telling cnn what a great job the revolutionary guard was doing while baghdad was getting blown up ?
Obama's just a figurehead, there's people, powerful people behind Obama that you'll never see or know what they are up to, but we all know multi-millionaires and billionaires always look out for the downtrodden, right?
That's the ones calling the shots.
Was Obama the ultimate snake oil seller, promising and promising and promising, to get a King Hell size job with the ability to incinerate the entire world at his fingertips or is Obama just a front for some really bad people, doing really bad things in Iraq and SW Asia, in America's name?