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Obama's Criticisms of the Warren and Burger Courts
Yesterday I wrote about what seemed to be President Obama's fairly stunning disparagement of the Warren and Burger Courts (expressed on the eve of naming Justice Stevens' replacement), as he echoed the classic, decades-old, right-wing claim that those courts were guilty of the "error" of "judicial activism." As I noted in an update, numerous people, in comments and via email, objected that I had misinterpreted Obama's remarks, that he was merely noting the hypocrisy of the Right but not himself criticizing those courts. As it turns out, The New York Times' Charlie Savage and Sheryl Gay Stolberg understood his remarks exactly as I did, as did the experts on both sides of the spectrum they interviewed, and the White House itself seemed to confirm that this is exactly what Obama intended to convey:
Obama Says Liberal Courts May Have Overreached
In a seeming rejection of liberal orthodoxy, President Obama has spoken disparagingly about liberal victories before the Supreme Court in the 1960s and 1970s -- suggesting that justices made the "error" of overstepping their bounds and trampling on the role of elected officials. . . .
Mr. Obama's comments, which came as he prepares to make a Supreme Court nomination, amounted to the most sympathetic statement by a sitting Democratic president about the conservative view that the Warren and Burger courts - which expanded criminal defendant rights, required busing to desegregate schools and declared a right to abortion - were dominated by "liberal judicial activists" whose rulings were dubious. . . .
Several conservatives said they welcomed an acknowledgment by a Democratic president that the courts led by Chief Justices Earl Warren and Warren Burger had sometimes overstepped their role.
I bet they did welcome it. Now, there's nothing sacrosanct about those courts, and there's nothing per se wrong with criticizing them. But given that the defining rulings of those decades have long formed the bedrock of the progressive understanding of the Constitution and the judiciary, that the dominant Justices of that era (Brennan, Marshall, Douglas, Black) are the iconic liberal judges of the 20th century, and that those decades produced the most vital safeguards for core Constitutional guarantees and critical limits on executive power, Obama -- as I said yesterday -- should at least specify which decisions he finds "erroneous" and illegitimate. But the imperial decree has been issued and that's apparently all you need to know:
The White House declined to identify rulings that Mr. Obama believes relied on judicial activism.
The absolute dumbest political platitude in the vast canon of right-wing idiocies has long been the premise that courts act improperly -- are engaged in "judicial activism" -- whenever they declare a democratically enacted law invalid on the ground that it is unconstitutional. That's one of the central functions of the courts, a linchpin of how our Constitutional Republic operates. We're not a pure democracy precisely because there are limits on what democratic majorities are permitted to do, and those limits are set forth in the Constitution, which courts have the responsibility to interpret and apply. When judges strike down laws because they violate Constitutional guarantees, that's not a subversion of our political system; it's a vindication, a crucial safeguarding of it.
But now, here is Obama giving credence to that idiocy with his sweeping, unspecified condemnation of the Warren and Burger Courts as "judicial activists." If, as Obama argues, some (or many) of the decisions of that era are "errors" of activist overreaching, wouldn't the current Court be justified in reversing them? And won't Republican Senators be justified in demanding that Obama refrain from nominating to the Court anyone whose records seems compatible with the defining judicial approach of those courts (since, after all, even Obama acknowledges they were in "error")? Why is Barack Obama walking around echoing the right-wing/Limbaughian view that the Supreme Court's decisions of the 1960s and 1970s were illegitimate, anti-democratic power grabs?
It's one thing to argue, as Obama has previously, that it sometimes makes more sense to accomplish political goals democratically rather than through the courts, and that liberals in the past have been too reliant on judicial victories in lieu of persuasion and organizing. As a general strategic proposition, I don't disagree with that view. But that has nothing to do with the proper role of judges, which is to strike down any and all laws brought before them which violate the Constitution. That core principle is the one Obama is disparaging.
In their NYT article this morning, Savage and Stolberg suggest that Obama may be motivated by a desire to protect progressive legislation from being struck down by the Roberts Court (as they did in Citizens United):
John McGinnis, a conservative law professor at Northwestern University, said, "[Obama's] party is in control, so of course he wants deference" to legislation enacted by Congress in the current era.
That's a fair enough objective, but demanding judicial deference to democratically elected laws is incredibly short-sighted and destructive. As Bush critics tried (unsuccessfully) to explain to the Right throughout the last decade, the party in power doesn't stay in power forever. Principles that you endorse and powers you vest when your party is in control don't disappear once the other party takes control, as it inevitably will. The changes one party makes to our political system endure once the other party takes control.
Publicly discrediting the core judicial function may serve Obama's short-term political goals by deterring the Roberts Court from striking down laws enacted by the current Congress or actions he takes as President. It may win him a day's worth of plaudits from right-wing legal ideologues. But it also further entrenches the right-wing myth that judges act illegitimately when they strike down democratically elected statutes or "interfere" in executive actions. That won't apply only when it comes time to examine Obama's domestic legislation, but also when it comes time to adjudicate the next Military Commissions Act, or the next oppressive anti-gay referenda, or future efforts to restrict Internet content, or twisted (but democratically-enacted) abortion laws, or government programs to spy on Americans without warrants, or the latest police state expansion of the type just enacted in Arizona, or whatever else the next GOP majority is able to implement. The basis for constitutionally challenging such acts is found in the jurisprudence that Obama just demeaned.
The prime attitude of the Bush administration towards courts was that they had no business interfering with whatever the Executive branch and the GOP Congress decided to do. It's unsurprising that Obama is now echoing that same perspective, but that doesn't mean it's harmless. There are ongoing, very live disputes over the proper role of the courts, and Obama, intentionally or otherwise, just bolstered the right-wing arguments in those debates by embracing long-standing cartoons of the Warren and Burger Courts.
UPDATE: With regard to the other topic here from yesterday -- the Obama DOJ's issuance of a supboena to Jim Risen -- see this Washington Post article headlined "After reporter's subpoena, critics call Obama's leak-plugging efforts Bush-like." The article, by Howard Kurtz, explains that the subpoena "has convinced some press advocates that President Obama's team is pursuing leaks with the same fervor as the Bush administration" and includes this:
"The message they are sending to everyone is, 'You leak to the media, we will get you,' " said Lucy Dalglish, executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press. In the wake of the Bush administration's aggressive stance toward the press, she said, "as far as I can tell there is absolutely no difference, and the Obama administration seems to be paying more attention to it. This is going to get nasty."
It was once the case, not all that long ago, that those who pointed out the extreme similarities between the Obama and Bush administrations in these areas were accused of being hysterical, impetuous purists. It's now the case that those who do so are guilty of nothing more than stating the obvious.
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Show AllAnd liberal orthodoxy is pretty reactionary which shows just how far to the right is Obama.
Paging Mitchell Palmer...
At least Obama could have mentioned the current court's ruling in "Citizens United" (he could have mentioned a few other recent decisions as well) in the same breath with the criticisms of the Warren and Burger courts, but he chose not to do so. Geez.
Obamabots will no doubt ignore these comments that unequvocally place Obama in a right wing, supply side, right of Nixon slot.
As I remember, Obama did criticize that decision but not in this context. Yeah, that is weird.
I wonder of Obama meant to include the Warren Court's 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision in his criticism.
Does he think the Bush v. Gore decision was an example of Judicial activism?
Jim Shea
Or how about Loving vs Virginia? I wonder what his mother would have thought about the judicial activism of the court in Loving vs Virginia.
Brown vs. Board of Ed. is irrelevant anyway. The public schools are more racially segregated today than they have ever been. Not directly, but no matter. Schools are funded by the property taxes of the district in which they are located. Hence, wealthy white suburbs get great schools with well-paid teachers, and urban working-class districts get crumbling schools and shitty teachers. And that is why Asia and Europe will dominate the 21st century.
Local property taxes are sent to the state to be reaportioned to all school districts in the state based on a formula that includes average daily attendance (ADA) and size. This was a Warren court decision which was intended to equalize education in our schools.
However because of Republican tax cuts, Federal government's lack of funding special school programs in deference to huge defense (offense) and homeland insecurity spending, and high unemployment this method of funding schools has failed miserably.
To make up for the educational funding failure of our governments, school districts are again allowed to put local tax elections on the ballot. But because of the anti tax attitude started by Ronald Reagan and carried through by the republicans and the likes of Limbaugh, and Rupert's Fox news flunkies these tax elections seldom pass. So schools are still starving and inefective which gives them more fodder for their "schools are failing don't give them anymore money" talking points.
Sioux Rose
AHSHAP: Thank you for articulating the circular reasoning that leads to the condition of so many schools and the catch-22 that insures less funds, due in large measure to what underfunding itself has caused!
Sioux Rose
RICH M? Are you out there? I'd love to hear YOUR views on this one!
No one has said it yet, but the insidious comment by our dual-tone Prez is like pushing minority rights back into the proverbial closet. This guy could not BE more of a sell-out if he was branded like a product! I wonder if those who still believe in the illusion that team A differs from team B in substance, will be able to continue making excuses as Obama DOES Bush with a new ethnic flavor added to a very diabolical mix.
-"Principles that you endorse and powers you vest when your party is in control don't disappear once the other party takes control, as it inevitably will. The changes one party makes to our political system endure once the other party takes control."
Sioux Rose, This is why I still think that Americans are crazy not to have a progressive party alternative to the approved parties. Right now in Florida, a Republican is splitting off to be an "independant". Some people say this will "confuse" voters? How is having a real choice of candidates a bad thing? With the feds, you knew, if you cared to know, that the Dems would carry on Bush's policies. My, God, they voted for them, for a start, and Obama personally, he made it quite clear early on (from telecom immunity on, at least) that he was onboard with the corporations and the right wing. Why do you need two big right wing parties?
Sioux Rose
JLOCKE: The money chokehold on politics has never been this obscene, and never in my lifetime have the two parties morphed this seamlessly into ONE. Nader warned about this very thing 10 years ago and I was paying attention. I did, however, presume that at least SOME cosmetic changes would occur under Obama. Instead, the BETRAYER is touting right wing lines at every turn. Some in this forum were quite upset when he threw his family's minister under the bus. Someone said Reverend Wright was trying to warn the US about "these two" career climbers.
I think most of us are feeling shock and awe, all right... as our jaws drop at the news of every sell-out, and every endorsement of the illegal and criminal policies of the Bush administration by the man from hope. Glenn Greenwald has been vigilant and very wise in pointing out how this "going along to get along" nonsense creates precedent for what no civilized nation ought to EVER countenance. Without holding past "leaders" to the rule of law, we are a law-less land that makes war at its pleasure and is an environmental scourge to the world. The hatred that must be brewing in lands that will be the first to take up the global warming shocks, added to those that carry the wounds of war (and the remnants of dangerous weapons) must be legion... and growing.
If every citizen went into fasting and penance, and sent $1000 to the poor in a foreign land it would only CHIP away at the karmic debt our nation now owes to others. The cosmic clock hands are moving into place, and the time for a reckoning fast approaches. Already the unemployment figures, the persons made homeless by loan shark equivalents, the lack of local agricultural resources, the inflamed madness over oil (and its current Gulf tragedy--both in OUR Gulf of Mexico as well as in the Gulf war)... these are the beginning reverberations.
-"If every citizen went into fasting and penance, and sent $1000 to the poor in a foreign land it would only CHIP away at the karmic debt our nation now owes to others."
I know that Americans are a rich and generous people as a whole. Unfortunately, for every dollar donated by you guys, several more dollars are borrowed from China by your government to subsidize your agricultural products, thereby starving out farmers, and the people they feed, worldwide, forcing them into drug production, and fostering new drug smuggling, disease, war and the terrorism it produces. For every dollar of charity from America, your government cancels out the goodwill with its dispersal of advanced war weapons to despotic tyrannies across the globe. I was never so disappointed when you guys voted for the Democrats without electing a single Green or Progressive candidate for congress. Political change in your country happens SO SLOWLY! OMG! And you guys, romp around messing up our backyards, with more than a little cooperation from friendly governments.
Anyway, my crystal ball tells me to expect Obama to pick a judge that likes things like the divine right of presidents and John Yoo's version of a torture definition so....
We are just going to have to be patient. ;) Can you recommend a good book?
Excellent summary, SR. I was one who held my nose and voted for him, mostly on the Supreme Court issue. He certainly didn't offer us a "platform"--have platforms gone out of style in the last 3 decades? I'm now waiting for him to dump us on the SC, too.
However, what has really surprised me is how many of the Obamabots I knew from 2008 were, in less than a year, completely disgusted with him. I was very surprised because these were people under a spell but who clearly, and quite quickly, awoke from the dream in righteous fury because he wasn't doing what they believed he'd suggested he was going to do. They changed so fast and so completely that I thought I was dreaming. By now Obama has become such a nonentity that nobody bothers giving him a thought any more and it's hard to see how he won't be a one-term president.
I endorse your plug for Glenn Greenwald. He's a gem; brilliant mind and moral sense.
Sioux Rose
Thanks, RAIN. We may not agree on the cosmic, but it's good to know that we can see eye to eye on the mundane plane where the awful is operating on steroids.
VERITAS mentioned that Obama and the Democratic congress are worse than the Republicans and that is NOT so. They are equivalents, and therein lies the rub. We expected more and better of the team that at least some of the time throws concessions at the working class and environmental movement. The power of money to seduce those in line to receive it is now on obscene display and the level of sellng out has become nothing less than pornographic. It confounds the mind to imagine the levels of corruption underway at the very time it ALL MATTERS so much...
I believe in a higher justice, and those who find themselves privileged with owning the reins and the possibility of navigating this nation's destiny towards a more enduring future instead have elected to take the crash... knowing their own seats are padded from impact, while MILLIONS here and in foreign lands being bludgeoned, will take the raw impact.
In every spiritual/religious system the key teaching distills to how we treat our fellow man and woman. When we put self-interest first at others' expense, a karmic debt occurs. Sometimes it is difficult to find a win: win situation, or a modicum of balance in the basic agreements that operate as the currency of our lives. However, the level of sacrifice being demanded of those who have little power, by those who have much will cost a lot more than what paper money can purchase... in the fullness of time, of course.
jlocke123
Progressives or leftists are such a small minority of Americans, less than 7%, a progressive party would have little effect or none at all.
Even if liberals joined in you still only have around 29% and most liberals are far closer to the center than to leftists.
There is no confusion about Crist, Rubio will win handily in Florida. Americans are rejecting Obama and the democrats as we speak.
And if they keep pushing for a fight, they will get one. The lid is dancing around on this boiling pot from the pressure. The majority of the American people are simply disgusted with the dishonesty in every area thats being shown.
And you know all this how? Let me guess, Veritas / Henry8 / ThomasMore talking out of his ass again.
rfloh
Most is self evident to anyone that knows anything about politics and pays attention to real facts rather than talking points.
But thank's for your courteous and instructive comment. Compliments are always gratefully accepted!
As I suspected, Veritas, who repeats every single right wing talking point, cannot back up his assertions with sources.
Because they don't exist. If the are "real facts", you would have no problem providing the sources for your claims.
-"Even if liberals joined in you still only have around 29% and most liberals are far closer to the center than to leftists."
More and more, I am coming to that conclusion. I'm not sure what the center is though. For you guys, politics is linear, two dimensional, whereas in democracies, where you don't need to jump through flaming hoops to get your party "on the ballot", politics is multidimensional. There are different issues on which parties may or may not align, i.e. there is no "centre" there are only majorities in favour of different policies.
-"Americans are rejecting Obama and the democrats as we speak."
I'm not sure about that, although I wouldn't be surprised if the Dems lost some seats, that is common wisdom, no? I would think though that if the strategy of progressive Dems, to work within the party was to work, it could only work if the Dems were not so closely aligned with the other righ wing party. I mean, there would have to be some raw material, policy speaking, to work with. As it is, it is no more possible for leftists to thrive in the Dems than it is for them in the Republican party. I hear many Americans refer to "real Democrats". I think they are refering to, and reacting to, a fondly remembered Democratic party of the, possibly imaginary, past.
However Veritas, I still don't detect any movement towards a critical mass of people towards a left wing party, so....more of the same for you guys. More war, more oil spills, more bailouts, more uninsured patients, more unemployment. What you have more of for sure is more right wing anger at immigrants, congress in general, socialists (real or imagined), foreign countries etc...where will this all lead?
jlocke123
My opinion is that the center is simply the vast majority of folks that have no interest at all in the radical agenda's of either the left or right. Its most people that try and find the fairest way to settle most problems within their own viewpoints and they go left and right from the center.
I'd say your description of our politics as multidimensional is fairly accurate. Each party has its radicals and its moderates. The large majority hold to the integrity of their beliefs, but as proven by Bush and Obama, the radical elements can sieze power.
Only the ideologues and radicals of either side will not move an inch off their cherished positions, I believe they would rather be destroyed than admit they made a mistake or misjudged someone or something.
"I'm not sure about that, although I wouldn't be surprised if the Dems lost some seats, that is common wisdom, no?"
I'm very sure because in my lifetime I've not heard such universal disgust and loathing for a government expressed by all concerned. This congress is by far the most corrupt I've ever seen. Far more than Bush's republicans. And the real businessmen in America, small business hold Obama and Pelosi in absolute contempt.
And you are correct that it is common wisdom that they will lose seats. I'm suggesting they will lose a LOT of seats, they will more than likely lose control of the House or come very close to it. They will lose half again as many Senate seats as common wisdom suggests I believe, but here I could be off one or two seats.
"What you have more of for sure is more right wing anger at immigrants"
There is no such animal. There has been no such anger or antagonism displayed or mentioned that I have seen or heard about immigration, ever.
Illegal immigration is another subject entirely and its not "right wing" anger though business and its shills would like to convince people of that. Over 80% of Americans oppose illegal immigration, amnesty or any reward for illegals or their employers and that includes Americans of Latino and Hispanic desent.
The anger is against the Federal government for the most part...at the moment. If they push Americans much more though, I'm very afraid this could change. Much afraid. This is not 86 or even 07.
I believe Americans will insist that we get out of Iraq AND Afgahnistan before the end of Obams presidency in 2012. There will always be oil spills or mine disasters till we find new energy sources, though fewer if the government did its job. We will continue to have uninsured till wwe get rid of the posres that insist we can't discuss health care honestly. No more bailouts I think.
As to war, there will be more of them as I truly believe we are going to withdraw our military from many areas and revamp it. That we will no longer provide the UN with soldiers for every force or become involved in places like Bosnia, etc. I believe we are about to revert to a thirties mindset (somewhat).
The above opinion plus one million drachma's will get you a cuppa!
The majority of the American electorate is to the left of both Demoplicans and Republicrats on most things.
- Wars and empires
- Military spending
- Edu spending
- Health coverage
- Green economy
- Corporate personhood
- Corporate theft (AKA "bailouts")
- Election reform
- Auditing (and probably killing) the Fed
On any one of these, we would do better simply implementing the wishes of respondents in Gallup polls than we would relying on our elected officials.
It's been ages since approval of Congress was worth 25 cents on a dollar---well, but I'm speaking to the choir for this part: you note the disgust. I would say it is only partly with the dishonesty per se, as you likely agree: it also extends to dishonest treatment of important issues.
Even the rising right sees itself as anti-statist. Even though there's something hallucinatory in much of that, the alliance of the Tea-volken with the Republican statists cannot be stable, for better or for worse.
Here we have the sequel to the Obama cave-in on single-payer/ public option health care funding. Obama is not a liberal and is running away from the left part of his political base. The elections in November are driving the agenda and we who have hoped for a decent replacement for Justice Stevens are about to be severely disappointed. To dishonor the legacy of such greats as Wm. O Douglas and Wm. Brennan and Thurgood Marshall in an effort to pander to FOX News fools and Tea Party goons in the campaign to keep Democratic majorities in Congress is utterly disgusting. This is more of the same and why I quit the Democratic Party six months ago.
Carl Reynolds
Sherwood, Oregon
Many people consider the things government does for them to be social progress but they regard the things government does for others as socialism. -- former Supreme Court Chief Justice Earl Warren
http://www.quixote-quest.org/resources/national_international/Democrat_Ideology_010505.html
It really is beyond time for serious leftists to start considering who would be the best replacement for Obama.
If you are a US resident and you desire to live in a nation with a left-of-center government, you have two choices: (1) support the right of states to secede and, if a constitutional amendment allowing such ever does pass, move to a state that is a good candidate to establish a left-of-center government, e.g. Vermont, or (2) move to another country.
I did not list the other obvious alternative, the one involving violence, as that would likely turn out very badly.
The question of secession was settled in the early 1860s. The Civil War was more about secession and breaking up the Union than anything else. The slave question was really not the issue, although it was the slave states that seceded.
Texas, which at one time was an independent country, is the only state that ever _asked_ to join the Union. The decision was made by voters in Texas. By that count, the voters in Texas should have the right to decide to secede ... and good riddance, in my opinion.
Progressive_Patriot
Though very, very wrong about Texas, I'm pleased to see there is someone here that knows something about real history. It wasn't about slavery.
And all the slave states did not secede, in fact the last slaves to be held in bondage in the United States were held by the Northern states (the Union), not the South.
Yes, of course. It wasn't about slavery at all. Just a coincidence. Which was why not long after the war, the southern Slave states all enacted a bunch of laws that effectively enserfed their black populations.
Nope. Not about slavery at all. To the apologists for slavery like Veritas.
That is why I implied that a constitutional amendment must pass before secession by the states may occur.
I don't think that would be necessary.
You see the confederate states seceded on their own after an election that they were unhappy about.
I think it might be possible without an amendment for Congress to agree to a state seceding if it was based on a plebiscite in the state that was monitored by Congress and that wasn't a reaction to a specific election but a process over time.
There have been extensive discussions by constitutional scholars on the topic, and though there is no consensus, it appears that the great majority feel SCOTUS would be on firm ground to rule that no such right exists, not so much because of the Lincoln's decision and the outcome of the war, but because of several SCOTUS decisions related to the war. There is certainly an argument that an amendment is unnecessary, but it all depends on SCOTUS accepting that argument, and I just cannot see how making such a decision would serve the interests of the Justices in any respect.
smitty88
"serious leftists" will have absolutely no say in Obama's replacement. None what so ever.
The left has been marginalized and liberals have suffered major damage because of these inept and corrupt second raters.
The _real_ centrists have been marginalized, and the _real_ leftists left the Democratic Party a long time ago.
Progressive_Patriot
Those are the leftists I was referring to. In the mind of the public, leftists ans liberals are the same as democrats and Obama's bunch of low hanging fruit.
All the left will reap the blame for the failed policies and corrupt agenda of these arrogant over reaching rookies.
Hard to blame the sheeple this time. They didn't just get slapped! They got RAPED! and if they had any dreams left, retirment, a good job, vacations, affordable healthcare. Well those were ripped out so hard their sheeple kids will be smarting for the next two generations!.
One reason the left has been marginalized is the fact that they continue to allow the media and the republicans to frame people like Obama and the Clintons as left leaning liberals, when they are truly conservative republicans. Look at the terminology MSNBC, CNN and FOX NEWS use when talking about Obama,s up coming Supreme Court appointment. They talk about Obama finding a replacement for the Liberal Lion John Paul Stevens. Liberal Lion, my ass, sorry to break this to you folks, Justice Stevens is a life long republican who was appointed by a republican President. Now for the last time, THERE ARE NO LIBERALS ON THE US SUPREME COURT! There are four moderates/centerists and five right wing fringe freaks on the court. Don't let these idiots shape the discussion by calling conservatives, liberals. Joe Liberman is not a moderate/centerist he is a right wing tool. People like Dick Durbin and Chuck Schumer are corporatists, yet when you hear about them on TV and radio or being described by republicans, they are liberals. The true left can not allow this to continue if they ever expect to make any headway with the American people.
Over the last thirty years, because of the way that center/rightists in the democratic party, the MSM and the republican party have defined what a liberal is, the political pendulum has continually swung between the center and the far right, never all the way back to the left like it should have. The American people are easily swayed. The media and the republicans will hold up a picture of a Great Dane and continually call it a cat. After a short while if you show the picture of that Great Dane to a passerby and ask what it is, don't be surprised if they tell you it's a cat. Words have meaning, if you don't use your own words to describe yourself and what you stand for, others will use their own words to describe you, then you are fucked. Don't believe me? Just look at the last thirty years!
Kucinich/Grayson 2012!
I don't know wether to flagg this or, call for a straight jacket! (Kucinich!) really! cause I got some nice oceanfront property in Lousiana for you. Gauernteed Quiet! no birds, fish, or anything else to keep you from enjoying your new home.
Dennis Kucinich has been excellent on many issues but has also shown spectacular poor judgement. For example, when he said he would consider sharing a ticket in 2008 with the racist right wing idiot Ron Paul. He completely lost me after that. Grayson sounds good now but I don't think we know enough about him yet. The John Edwards surprise is still fresh in my mind. I could vote for Al Franken because of his close ties to Paul Wellstone and what he stood for.
It irks me when people say Obama has turned out to be "centrist" or center-right. This makes no sense at all.
If Obama had succeeded Dwight D. Eishenhower and was continuing all of Ike's policies, he could reasonably be called a centrist.
But his predecessor was the most flamingly right-wing President ever. By any accounting, this makes Obama a neocon.
Over the past thirty years Big Media has pushed the"center" so far to the right that Lieberman is called a "centrist". Lieberman is so right-wing that, on some issues ... particularly Israel, he was tripping over George Bush in his rush to be more right wing than Bush.
Obama, for certain, is NOT a Progressive. He is a Corporatist, as are the Clintons. The real "centrists" of the Democratic Party have been pushed out to left field somewhere. There are no "leftist extremists" in the Democratic Party, at least none that will show their faces.
Gore Lieberman, right?
Lieberman probably had his eulogy of the fallen President Gore written already when they were campaigning.
A necon like his mentor - Lieberman.
Glenn,
I've written to you (but you never listen..ha ha) that Obama is going to place someone on the Court who will never find him or his guilty when it is exposed that he and his Admin have been secretly spying, abusing and experimenting on US citizens using Thought Reading Technology (just as Clinton and Bush).
If it weren't for the Warren Court, Obama would be digging trenches somewhere, because he would not have had the educational opportunities that the Warren court upheld in the rulings most hated by bigoted white men.
Yeah sure, and Earl Warren has a shrine in every Japanese American household, sure.
Hint. Don't answer "no" to questions 26 and 27.
The Future Bend empirePie April 30th, 2010
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Find a friendly gavel for the truth speak of the dusk.
Let the shadow masters throw the dice,
the color coded future it ain’t nice.
Bush Obammer, Bush Osammer, oil me to the end.
Does your future call?
Is there a need to bend?
Poetry slam anywhere anytime soon? mmmmm...that's some good pie.
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I've seen the shores of Saturn too (although shrouded in mystery)
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Grow, grow, grow!!!!!
If the Repiglicans weren't so busy scaring most people in this country, they would be assured of making big gains this November. Obomba's perfidy should be his political suicide. Fat chance.