It’s Time for the President To Get Real on Afghanistan
There's an old adage, "Show me what you spend your money on, and I will tell you your values."
President Obama's request for a "speedy" congressional vote on $92.4 billion more in supplemental war funds to pay for more troops, more drone bombing, and more carnage in Afghanistan, has inadvertently shown his values in practice: war over diplomacy, and wishful thinking over clear-eyed realism.
It's time to get real on the U.S. military involvement in Afghanistan. Military engagement there since October 2001 has yielded neither the capture of Osama bin Laden, the political defeat of the Taliban, nor the improvement of life for Afghans, especially Afghan women.
This war has cost U.S. citizens, thus far, over $172.9 billion, according to the Congressional Research Service. The fiscal year 2009 budget deficit is now projected to be $1.75 trillion. Since it is borrowed money, the taxpayers -- and our children -- will have to pay it back. This will be a burden on the U.S. economy for decades. Meanwhile, military corporations such as DynCorp, Triple Canopy and Halliburton are raking in profits.
Moving from the cost in money to the cost in blood, this military misadventure has claimed the lives of nearly 700 U.S. servicemembers. Former NFL player Pat Tillman, used as a Pentagon poster boy until killed by "friendly" fire, is perhaps the only name of the dead of this war that Americans remember.
Nameless to us - but their deaths never to be forgotten or forgiven by their families - are thousands of Afghan civilian casualties. Under Obama's policies, many more young Americans, and Afghan civilians, will die, for no gain.
Obama received a polite "no" from European leaders to his request that NATO forces take more of the combat load in Afghanistan. Large protests in France and Germany marked the 60th anniversary of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, which was created to protect Western Europe from the Soviet Union.
There is no Soviet Union any longer, Europe is economically powerful and peaceful, and Afghanistan is a long, long way from the North Atlantic.
There are alternatives, far more affordable and rational, than accelerating the military option in one of the poorest and most war-torn countries on earth. The U.S. could halt its military operations, especially the hated drone attacks in the Afghan-Pakistani border areas, and help organize a peace assembly led by widely respected Afghans, both men and women leaders. The U.S. also has the ability to launch a regional diplomatic effort, including Russia, Iran, India, Pakistan, and Central Asian states.
The American people are tired of war and sick of seeing their tax dollars go to bail out bankers and keep military contractors in the black. Afghanistan is not "the right war," it's a sinkhole for our lives and tax dollars and could be a disaster for the Obama presidency, which began with such optimism. Diplomacy, a drawdown of military involvement, and an exit strategy with a timeline -- that's the realistic path to freedom from endless war and debt. This course of action would show the values that most Americans support.
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27 Comments so far
Show AllIn every war there are two major realities. In the case of Afghanistan they are Obama's reality which he believes to be correct and the reality on the ground. Bush fell for the same dichotomy.
Let's avoid rhetoric that suggests that the Soviet Union ever had more to do with American expansionism than motivating a few bases in NATO countries.
US diplomatic efforts are well under way -- on behalf of its corporate oligarchy, of course. Pepe Escobar's recent analysis of the relative advantages of different transport lanes between oil and gas reserves and Russia, China, India, and the southern ports possibly controllable by the United States probably comes close to explaining policy as seen by the inside wonks.
Obomb is real, alright. What we need him to get is out.
PS:
"There are alternatives, far more affordable and rational, than accelerating the military option in one of the poorest and most war-torn countries on earth. The U.S. could halt its military operations, especially the hated drone attacks in the Afghan-Pakistani border areas, and help organize a peace assembly led by widely respected Afghans, both men and women leaders. The U.S. also has the ability to launch a regional diplomatic effort, including Russia, Iran, India, Pakistan, and Central Asian states."
This is absolutley wrong and patronizing. The U.S. doesn't need to "help" anybody do anything. We need to stop doing all the horrible things we are doing, get the heck out of the way, pay some pretty hefty reparations and let people who actually know something and care about humanity try to straighten out their own lives and countries.
Maybe in a few centuries, they'll be generous, forgive us and come help out our descendants who will be mired in poverty, ignorance and violence even worse than we have now.
"The American people are tired of war and sick of seeing their tax dollars go to bail out bankers and keep military contractors in the black. Afghanistan is not "the right war," it's a sinkhole for our lives and tax dollars and could be a disaster for the Obama presidency, which began with such optimism. Diplomacy, a drawdown of military involvement, and an exit strategy with a timeline -- that's the realistic path to freedom from endless war and debt. This course of action would show the values that most Americans support..."
Exactly what world do you live in?
All wishfull thinking I'm afraid. Unocal/Halburton has agreed to supply an oil pipeline from the Caspian Sea Oil to India via Afghanistan and Pakistan. It won't be completed until 2014.
The preditor drones are not looking for bad guys imho. They are clearing out millions of peasants that are in the way of this project. See the CD "Remote Warfare" story comment for sources.
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
Oregoncharles
"It's time for the president ..." to do this or that. Well, he's not going to because as one government official said to Ron Suskind:
"That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."
So I say it's time to stop saying "It's time..." It's an annoying phrase and means nothing. Why not say something akin to, "We the People are going to burn our health insurance policies!" That'll get their attention.
hi oregon: it was karl rove who made that remark
grandson of a nazi one is left wondering who in fact did win the war - us or them
of course, let's not forget bush's grand daddy preston who was affectionatley known as "the banker to the nazis"
or his great grand daddy sam who was a war profiteer form the big one WW1
oh the sorry state of the union
Oregoncharles
Voice from "heaven" ..... Ted Rall. Just after I wrote the above comment, I clicked on Ted's article!
It's time to take things into our own hands and stop relying on this filthy rich, powerful entity, with an agenda to drive us - and anyone else in their way - into the ground.
As Arundhati Roy said (essentially): Why play their game, where they make all the rules, have all the power? Why not find and use our own collective power, force them to play by our rules?"
It would help to have a powerful media to help with this project but ... "you have to work with the [media] you have, not the one you wish you had."
All we have to do is become obsessed with frugality to the point that we become immune from sales pitches for war or/and products of any kind. Frugality is freedom. It is the one weapon that they can't put us in jail for using. The effect is to bring down the predatory businesses that buy our politicians for war and other pollution generating crap. STOP SPENDING except for bare necessities and things will improve. The old way of shop till you drop is wrong, stupid, destructive, unproductive, unsustainable and addictive. It makes you a slave to hedonistic behavior and sets you up for a conditioned happiness based on material wealth. This is exactly what the predatory corporations want. Wake up. You are being fooled every day. There is no such thing as an "innocent" shopping spree. If you want to be a pig, fine. But don't pretend you aren't helping destroy other humans by you stupid, hedonistic habits.
This piece, like too many from the left, gives lip service to civilian casualties -- after mentioning the toll on our "heroes."
At the core of the problem is a deeply internalized culture of racial supremecy of nearly all U.S. imperial ventures (and those of Europe, Japan and China before us).
Any left/progressive analysis must be cognizant of this historical fact and include it in some way in the piece.
While I'm fully aware that U.S. casualties are used as a tactical move by the writer, i.e. -- they're the only people U.S. citizens care about -- it is just plain wrong to put them first. It reinforces the notions of racial supremecy and nationalism of whatever stripe.
the author writes:
"There's an old adage, "Show me what you spend your money on, and I will tell you your values."
ok so based on that we see that pax americana is a murderous, bloodthirsty, ignorant, hyper-military nation of psychotic and paranoid bloodsuckers with no morality, no conscience or concern for anything but themselves
the us spends more on their military (not even counting the black budgets) than the rest of the world combined
hey miss author - what does that tell you
for many years prisons have been a great growth industry - the us incarcerates more citizens than any other country in the world, largely young black boys - talk about an austere eugenics program
hey miss author - what does that tell you
the united states not only routinely tortures and kills prisoners they also pay for training schools so they can teach other countries how to do the same
hey miss author - what does that tell you
based on the author's own reckoning one can deduce that the united states is one fucked up, psychotic, diseased menace that the rest of the world has to put up with - like the insane uncle who always causes fights at family gatherings
what with the congressmen and women giving blowjobs in the men's room, having hondo whores dress them up in diapers so they can poop their pants, as does the congressman from - is it verginia - they are the perfect loonies to preside over the shit pile that is the united states
rotten to the core and proud of it
usa usa usa
Unless I misread, this was the point of the article.
based on the author's own reckoning one can deduce that the united states is one fucked up, psychotic, diseased menace that the rest of the world has to put up with - like the insane uncle who always causes fights at family gatherings
Good analogy except that Uncle Sam comes to the family gatherings heavily armed and looking for loot.
touche - i stand corrected
if only it was a crazy uncle we had to deal with
point taken kivals
There is no Bin Laden. Bin Laden is the Boogeyman, The Anti-Christ, the Loch Ness Monster, the Creature from the Black Lagoon, etc. He exists only as a prop to frighten and to manipulate, nothing more
One hundred years from now, when bin Laden is most obviously dead, the U.S. government will be saying he is alive and they're hunting him down and closing in. Any day now.
The frightening part is that is probably true. So many people will actually believe he is still alive. If not, then the "Son of Bin Laden" will become the new evil villain and plot his "dastardly deeds" against America.
Yet we continued to send billions of US dollars via the Carlyle Group to the "Bin Laden Brothers Contracting for Industry" now called the "Bin Laden Group." Oh yes, it's true. They got the contract to "rebuild" Lebanon. We smash it: Lebanon (via a green light to Israel) and Bin Laden rebuilds it. Must be a courtesy job for smacking down the World Trade Center. It is known there are hundreds of transfers of money between these two groups prior to 911. Many Bushwackers including Bush Sr. (past director) dealt with the Bin Laden family on big oil projects in the persian gulf. GWB was partnered with Salem Bin Laden (Osama's brother) in Abusto Energy (as an investor). Salem lost his investment with GWB. Then he mysterious died in an ultralight aircraft accident in Austin Texas in 1988.
All coincidences?
If you want to find Bin Laden, start searching the swimming pools of the GOP.
TJ
p.s: here's his aircraft in San Diego in 1984 (note remarks at bottom): http://tinyurl.com/r6lr34
Sources: Wiki, deleted history pages, mid east press reports.
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
"There is no Soviet Union any longer"
There is, however, a Russia with massive energy resources and a growing relationship with Iran, China and other Asian powers.
We are in Afdghanistan to control the energy resouces of Asia.
We do not want the development of the South Pars Gas Fields in Iran - massive
We do not want the IPI pipeline from Iran through Pakistan to India.
We definitely do not want the hook-up from the IPI to China through Northern Pakistan.
We DO want the US pipeline from Central Asia to Qwadar Baluchistan - the Chinese built port on the indian Ocean.
The main problem is thousands of opium growing Afghans and religious fundamentalists along the pipeline route from Herat to Kandahar to Quetta (the taliban capital) to Guadar
Osama Bin Ladin is and was very real, but may be viewed more as a strawdog in our fight to control Afghanistan and Pakistan.
It's also interesting that the leaders of Afghanistan have ties with multinational oil companies and pipelines.
The real story of Afghanistan is just beginning to emerge.
Don't be fooled by MSM and politicians who want us to think otherwise.
Excellent!! You've been reading Pepe Escobar!!
Here is a link to his latest, http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KE22Df02.html
His hypothesis, forced "Balkinization" of Pakistan, is credible as it will be recalled that Biden was very keen to have Iraq partitioned. An earlier item of his he links to within the article is also required reading for those wanting to know just what loot the US Empire is after.
The growing unrest is due to sabotage by right wing nut scumbag agents. Stalin called them wreckers. Just because Stalin said it doesn't mean it's not correct.
Obama makes good speeches but has no real clout. Afghanistan just a trade. (The war in Iraq for a war in Afghanistan) It is driven by the same war profiteers as Iraq. The same exploitation of resources is there. He agreed to ramp things up there in a tradeoff for Iraq so he could get votes. Obama isn't even able to close Guantanamo because he can't get support from his own party. If anything at all could be said of Republicans, it's that at LEAST they supported their own party agenda, demented and sad as it may be.
There is no Bin Laden. Bin Laden is the Boogeyman, The Anti-Christ, the Loch Ness Monster, the Creature from the Black Lagoon, etc. He exists only as a prop to frighten and to manipulate, nothing more. His 'cave' is likely to be lavishly furnished and MUCH closer to the USA than you think. The 'war' in Afghanistan is just a witch hunt smokescreen.
How many more thousands of troops have to die? How many more orphans and widows will we make? We kill them faster than they can bury their dead, burn their cities, exploit their resources and impoverish them to the point where they're living in disease infested slums. Then we kick our way through the debris and filth, slap them on the back, and say "Cheer up! You're free! We killed the bad guy!" Later we stand around mule-faced and ask each other "Why do they hate us?"
"Words must mean something." Obama to the people of the Czech Republic, April 4/5, 2009.
"We will defeat you." - Obama on Afghanistan/Pakistan - Taliban/alleged Terrorist, etcetera.
But what you have meant, father of darling little girls who you love and protect so much, is killing, maiming, burning the skin off other people's children, and the mothers and fathers and grandfathers, brides and grooms, simple village people ... Ah, 14 to 18 suspected terrorist killed, but ... hide the number 700 who were innocent civilians killed, with far more than 50 per cent children.
And I sense that you, Mr. Obama, with your "cool" have such little awareness when I and others thought you had a lot ... because you would be ashamed, very ashamed, and it would show and you would do it differently, and your rhetoric would change so your words and then your actions did MEAN SOMETHING. ...
And then there's the same "cool" manifestation, as you dance around with Israel's Zionist leaders as they continue to commit genocide on the Palestinian's in Gaza.
I am so ashamed as a United States citizen that we have become monstrous in what we do to others and conduct all this mayhem so righteously, pointing fingers and blaming everyone else, when it is our policies and our rabidly hungry and devouring capitalistic system run by Bankers and Oligarchs that is destroying everything that is good and beautiful and possible.
And please, no one who lives in the woodwork, come out and say well, LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.
I don't leave it because I still love our Nation's promise, and one does not abandon the mentally ill and the physically sick and dying. One does one's best to help wherever one can.
Oh, for the days of yore when Working toward WORLD PEACE were the buzz words and the major idea and vision of the time.
We have to get back to that, lest we perish.
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Bric-a-Brac Obysmal has gotten real on Afghanistan. He said, "We will defeat you" and he meant it. We're going to be there a long, long time. Those of you who did not live through endless and bloody Vietnam War are about to find out what it was like.
In a background of restlessness that has always existed around the world, there seems to be growing unrest that can be felt even in the US. This is largely because governments (especially the US government) work to meet the needs of corporations and not people. Obama's policy in Afghanistan is just a continuation of this process.
Exactly. The corporations own our government.
"Europe is economically powerful and peaceful"
It may look that way at a glance but one of my former professors who lives in Europe has a different account. She told me that there is currently a brewing fight between moving Europe towards being more capitalistic and moving Europe towards being more socialistic. So far, there have been rightwing victories creeping up. She loves the public transportation but fears that if the Europeans economy collapses since it is currently unsteady that more people will find themselves forced to drive because PT would be privatized and hence cost-prohibitive. Another pattern she noticed was that the more towards socialism a nation moves, the more hidden unrest there is whereas the more towards capitalism a nation moves, the more obvious unrest there is. When someone says Europe is more peaceful, there needs to be clarity and details on that claim.
Economic instabilities are created by the elites' casino royale, and other elite hammers and clamps on the economy. Cut off the elites' air supply and the economy stabilizes. This is one of the many lessons being illustrated.
This is getting off-topic so anyone who wants to stay on topic should skip this.
To reply to your comment about the direction of Europe, I have to believe that Europe will drift rightward in the near term. Though I am a lifelong agnostic socialist, I recognize that Christianity had much to do with building the social bonds and beliefs in a common purpose that European socialism arose from. I have long understood that for socialism to thrive there must be a critical mass of shared beliefs regarding fundamental issues underlying social rules and policies, and outside some historically shared belief system like Christianity (regardless of how arbitrary it may be) it is hard to imagine any one set of beliefs becoming predominant (the hard sciences answer too few of the social questions, and the soft sciences have not proven to be reliable or authoritative). And with the continued weakening of Christianity in Europe (particularly among those on the left), there will be increasing disagreement about fundamental beliefs thus creating division and social chaos to such a degree as to provide ample opportunity for the capitalist predators to successfully peddle their propaganda and take control of the levers of power.