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U.S. Envoy Secretly Offered Troops in Iraq after 2011
WASHINGTON - A special envoy from President Barack Obama raised the possibility in a secret meeting with senior Iraqi military and civilian officials in Baghdad Sep. 23 that his administration would leave more than 15,000 combat troops in Iraq after the 2011 deadline for U.S. withdrawal, according to a senior Iraqi intelligence official familiar with the details of the meeting.
Puneet Talwar, special assistant to the president and senior director for the Gulf States, Iran and Iraq on the National Security Council (NSC) staff, made remarks that suggest the Obama administration was planning to adopt a ruse to keep combat troops in Iraq after the expiration of the U.S.-Iraq troop withdrawal agreement on Dec. 31, 2011, while assuring the U.S. public that all U.S. troops had been pulled out by the deadline. (REUTERS/Saad Shalash)
But the White House official, Puneet Talwar, special assistant to the president and senior director for the Gulf States, Iran and Iraq on the National Security Council (NSC) staff, said the deployment would have to be handled in a way that was consistent the president's pledge to withdraw U.S. troops completely from Iraq under the 2008 agreement, the official said.
Talwar suggested that the combat troops could be placed under the cover of the State Department's security force, the Iraqi intelligence official told IPS.
The Obama envoy was referring to a force that the State Department had announced in August to provide security for U.S. civilian officials working in Baghdad and four regional consulates in Kirkuk, Erbil, Mosul and Basra. The administration's official position is that the security force is to be manned by private security personnel, as explained in a briefing given by Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Michael Corbin Aug. 17.
Talwar's remarks suggest the Obama administration was planning to adopt a ruse to keep combat troops in Iraq after the expiration of the U.S.-Iraq troop withdrawal agreement on Dec. 31, 2011, while assuring the U.S. public that all U.S. troops had been pulled out by the deadline.
Last year, Obama accepted a proposal by U.S. military leaders to re-label all combat brigades in Iraq "advise and assist brigades" so he could claim that he was withdrawing all combat troops by Aug. 31, 2010. Six U.S. fully equipped combat brigades remain in Iraq today, contrary to the administration's official position that only non-combat troops remain there.
Asked by the Iraqis whether there would be U.S. troops in Iraq in spring 2012, Talwar responded that it would "depend on the definition of a troop", according to the account of the meeting provided to IPS by the Iraqi intelligence official.
When the Iraqi participants in the Sep. 23 meeting asked how many troops might be left in Iraq, Talwar said preferably one brigade but that it could be two brigades. When asked how many soldiers that would mean per brigade, however, the NSC official said the number could be open-ended.
An Iraqi military official told Talwar the military understood the minimum number of troops needed for a self- contained U.S. combat force was 15,000 to 28,000. They asked Talwar whether the U.S. could keep at least 15,000 in the country, and Talwar answered that it was possible.
Each U.S. combat brigade team has 3,500 to 4,000 troops. Thus the 15,000 regular combat troops discussed as a possible post-2011 troop presence would represent between three and four brigades.
The Iraqis also asked whether the 15,000 regular combat troops could be augmented with Special Operations Forces, according to the Iraqi official's account. Talwar said the additional deployment of SOF troops after the withdrawal deadline would be possible, because the United States had never publicly acknowledged the presence of SOF units in Iraq.
The Pentagon signaled last summer that it was assuming the post-2011 U.S. military presence in Iraq would be less than 20,000 troops. In a press briefing last August, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Middle East Colin Kahl said Iraq "is not going to need tens of thousands of [American] forces".
Talwar also told the Iraqis that any deployment of combat troops in Iraq beyond the termination date of the U.S.-Iraqi agreement would require a letter from Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki. The Iraqi officials said the letter would be sent.
A National Security Council official refused to comment on whether Talwar had traveled to Baghdad at the time of the reported meeting.
To persuade the Obama administration to be more forthcoming on the issue of a continued U.S. troop presence, the Iraqi military has portrayed the government as threatened by both domestic and foreign enemies, according to the official's account of those interactions.
The Iraqis have argued that Iraq must have allies in the immediate future, and that if the United States does not fulfill that role, Iraq will turn to Iran or Russia to fill the gap, according to the Iraqi official.
They have told U.S. officials that Iran has already offered to station troops in Iraq if they are needed, the official said.
The main threat to Iraq's stability and integrity comes from the unresolved political conflicts between Sunni and Shi'a political factions and between the Kurds and Arabs.
The Obama administration used all of its waning political influence to pressure Maliki to include former Prime Minister Iyad Allawi and his Sunni-supported Iraqiya bloc in the government that must still be formed.
But Maliki is said to be insisting that the "National Council" which the tentative agreement allocates to Allawi would be subordinate to the Maliki government - much to Allawi's chagrin. On Saturday, Allawi said he and his followers in Iraqiya would not join the government and predicted an upsurge of violence.
Allawi appeared to be hinting that Sunni fighters who left the insurgency in 2006 and 2007 under deals made with the U.S. military will now resume military resistance to the government.
The fundamental conflict between Iraqi Kurds and Arabs over the fate of Kirkuk and the oil fields in the surrounding area may be an even greater threat. The Kurds are insisting on a census that would presumably bolster their claim that Kirkuk is a predominantly Kurdish city in advance of a referendum on the issue.
But Maliki has been pursuing a domestic political strategy based on assuming the role of Arab nationalist, which makes it very unlikely that he will accept any concession of Iraqi territory - especially territory with major oil resources - to the Kurds.
The Iraqi military expects war between Kurdish troops and the Iraqi army over the disputed territory in the north to erupt sometime in the next two years. But the Iraqi army has been telling its U.S. counterparts that it will not be ready to handle such a crisis until 2014, according to the Iraqi intelligence official.
Elements of the U.S. 4th Infantry Division are now deployed in northern Iraq along the line of conflict between Kurds and Arabs, and the U.S. military has been particularly eager to preserve that U.S. military presence there. Last March, Gen. Ray Odierno, the former top U.S. commander in Iraq, raised the possibility of putting U.S. troops along that line under a United Nations peacekeeping mandate.
A U.S. decision to keep combat brigades in Iraq would encourage Maliki to continue take a hard line toward Kurdish aspirations in pursuit of his strategy for consolidating power. It would also bolster his refusal to allow Allawi to gain a share of political power.
And negotiating a new agreement to station U.S. combat brigades in Iraq would risk embroiling the United States in Iraq's violent ethnic and sectarian conflicts for decades to come.
Gareth Porter is an investigative historian and journalist specialising in U.S. national security policy. The paperback edition of his latest book, "Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam", was published in 2006.
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Show AllI, and many others, said years ago the military will never completely withdraw from Iraq. There are a couple of extremely large air bases in the country which are ideal platforms for regional "protection" i.e. vs. Iran and protecting the regional oil resources.
After the spilling of much blood and the spending of much treasure there is simply no way the U.S. is going to walk away from these investments. U.S forces are in what, 80 some odd nations - Iraq will always be one of them.
No news here: Obama is a liar, old story.
But thanks for adding another one to the list.
mdarnton, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that Obama is, as you so bluntly put it, "a liar", at least not in the common sense.
I certainly 'hope' you do recognize the level of 'change' in our current gutless and complicit faux Emperor of the corporatist war state, compared to his last Democrat shill, Clinton. [Not to mention his immediate preceding faux Emperor, Bush, who overtly enjoyed playing the role of an overtly fascist Emperor for this corporate/financial/militarist EMPIRE, which still poses as our 'country' (sic)]
At least we can appreciate the improvement from Clinton's, "that depends on what the definition of 'is' is", to the far less evasive and polished phrasing of this new corporatist Democrat mouthpiece for Empire, Obama, in the style of his deceit by saying, "that depends on what the definition of 'troops' is".
Why now, we can all be proud of putting a little lipstick on the latest Empire pig.
And all achieved through our combined efforts in 2008.
I feel like shouting it again, don't you? ----
Queue the happy music.
"Yes, we can" ---- (but don't ever even whisper, "yes, we can rebel AGAINST EMPIRE").
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
PS. I do have one question for the far-sighted Obama imperial pawn, and it's this, bucko:
What are you going to do when some of those guilefully deployed 'invisible troops' get themselves visibly killed for their corporate oily overlords?
Oh, that's right, you can use those invisible extraordinary rendition 'black sites' that you ALSO didn't withdraw as 'invisible morgues' for your 'invisible troops' --- and best of all, you can keep the vast vast majority of all your 'invisible citizens' here in the homeland just as powerless and invisible as Ralph Ellison's "Invisible Man".
You did read that seminal work, didn't you, 0 man?
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Fuck Obama and his administration of pragmatists...he's lying to us on combat soldiers in Iraq...does he think we're stupid and don't see the game he's playing as he maneuvers to keep a permanent presence of soldiers in Iraq?
This is more military imperialism not 'change we can believe in'. All U.S. soldiers must be removed from Iraq or it seems Obama is implicitly supporting Bush's invasion and years long occupation of Iraq.
Let's sheep along. Let's sheep along.
In a very real sense, Obama is a bigger fraud than Bush. He certainly gives a bad name to "constitutional law professor"
And who's ever going to take a 'Nobel' Prize seriously anymore?
Nobody's taken the Nobel Peace Prize seriously since it was awarded to people like Menachem Begin and Yasser Arafat, and with good reason.
Porter sez: "Talwar said the additional deployment of SOF troops after the withdrawal deadline would be possible, because the United States had never publicly acknowledged the presence of SOF units in Iraq."
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Wha ...?
So this is what it's come to. Apparently the acumen of the U.S. citizen (sic) has fallen to such a depth that the propagandists no longer have to work at their craft.
I blame the loss of these standards on Cheney, who threw over good, quality dissemination and obfuscation in favor of, "So?".
As informative as this article is, it is missing the "bull's-eye."
**** "The main threat to Iraq's stability and integrity comes from the unresolved political conflicts between Sunni and Shi'a political factions and between Kurds and Arabs." *****
This quote, which seems to be THE commonly accepted assessment of the situation in Iraq, is actually the product of an incredible (lacking credibility) PR program.
Here are some clarifications.
#1. While I agree that Sunni and Shi'a are "political factions", I also would state that they are little different than the "political factions" we call Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism... and all of these political organization's other divisive "factions".
#2. "Kurds and Arabs". We are expected to believe that there is a monumental difference, when, in fact the differences are mostly parochially mental.
#3. "The main threat" has been clearly shown to be from outside of Iraq (and it is NOT the threat from al queda).
#4 Follow the money. Follow the source of weapons. Follow the growing global inequalities and suffering.
The decades upon decades of U.S., French, British (they are all the same thing) corporate duplicity and debauchery are at the core of Iraq's implosiveness. What we are seeing happen is largely what the corporations want to happen. It's the same in Haiti, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and yes, in the United States of Global Domination and elsewhere.
Most, if not all, of the politicians involved (whether masquerading as religious leaders or as heads of "security" forces) are merely tools of divisiveness in the service of desperation and avarice.
As Naomi Klein might say, the avaricious depend upon, and are determined to increase, our desperation and divisiveness.
The smell of crude oil is entering my nostrils again.
"White House official, Puneet Talwar, said the deployment would have to be handled in a way that was consistent the president's pledge to withdraw U.S. troops completely from Iraq under the 2008 agreement. Talwar suggested that the combat troops could be placed under the cover of the State Department's security force, the Iraqi intelligence official told IPS."
Ahh..more "bogus change we can be fooled by".
Indeed, bogus because every sovereign state has the right to tell other states how many "security personnel" they are allowed to have within its borders. December 31 2011 is looming and both Obama and the Pentagon are scared shitless.
The US government cannot stand the fact that the military will have to be out by 2011. And it is doing everything in their power to change that. They are practically begging the Iraqi government to let them stay.
Let's face it, the US just is not able to leave any place that it plants its bloody footprint. We are such control freaks.
What a disgusting, devious s.o.b.!
Is anything ever straightforward with Oilbomber?
"The Iraqis have argued that Iraq must have allies in the immediate future, and that if the United States does not fulfill that role, Iraq will turn to Iran or Russia to fill the gap,
"according to the Iraqi official."
But... WHICH OFFICIAL??? What a perfect scare to have the Americans (et al) of low mental ability believe and respond to. As in :
***JEEZ, Iraq might turn to Iran or Russia?????.. we must keep MORE troops than Obama and the rest say they want to keep there.****
~sc
Well, I suppose that when they run out of security forces, they will just start rotating in homeless and jobless Americans. The whole family could come, as it appears that child soldiers are not a problem for the president.
Nobody knows what they are doing, do they?
Well, I suppose that when they run out of security forces, they will just start rotating in homeless and jobless Americans. The whole family could come, as it appears that child soldiers are not a problem for the president.
Nobody knows what they are doing, do they?
El Sadr cannot take on 100,000 American soldiers but 10,000 will be no problem for his revived militia. And the killing of American soldiers of any stripe will no longer be an act of terrorism after December 31, 2011. The Obama administration will be playing with the lives of young Americans.
Of course this is not really news. It has long been known that the Obama administration in league with the Pentagon would develop numerous tricks to violet SOFA Iraq.
Roman emperors needed to win wars to satisfy their egos, to firm their grip on their thrones, and to satisfy the ruling class for which they worked. They usually attacked much weaker opponents but ran into troublesome insurgents once-in-a-while like in Gaul.
Beginning with President Truman, the following list can be offered of American president/emperors who started wars. Truman: Korea; oops, not really a win. Eisenhower: did not start a war but negotiated a cease fire. Kennedy: oops, Cuba, a loss. Johnson and Nixon: Vietnam; oops a loss. Ford and Carter: ???? Reagan: Grenada, a win, a win, a win! Bush 1: Iraq, a win, a win, a win! Clinton: Bosnia, Iraq stalemates. Bush 2: Afghanistan, Iraq: oops, no wins yet. Obama: Afghanistan on its way to a loss, badly needs to prevent to "lose" Iraq.
It is a mystery to me why our ruling class accepts this dreadful record. Because it makes money?
There is, however, one big difference with Rome. The Romans paraded their captives in the streets of Rome. We lock them up in Guantanamo.
Oh...I though the war in Iraq was over!!! What was I thinking? Now when military personnel are killed in Iraq it's termed "non-hostile" even though they are still being killed by IEDs in combat-related incidents.
Yes, they do think we are very stupid. Until we rise up, end the wars, throw the liars, crooks and thieves out of office and take back our country we are stupid.