Cheney Pushes for Renewed Wiretap Powers
WASHINGTON - US Vice President Dick Cheney called on Congress Wednesday to make permanent legislation permitting security agencies to tap foreign telephone calls and emails in the US “war on terror.”
As Congress geared up to weigh new legislation permitting the warrantless wiretaps, Cheney said it was “urgent” to renew and update the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) “immediately and permanently” before a key modification from last year expires on February 1.
But the legislation could stall over objections to the White House’s desire to grant US telecommunications companies which assist in the wiretaps retroactive immunity for possible rights violations.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid told the White House Wednesday that a short-term extension would likely be necessary first.
Cheney stressed that any update of FISA must offer the telephone and Internet carriers protection from lawsuits for alleged complicity in privacy rights violations.
“A failure to enact a permanent FISA update with liability protections would have predictable and serious consequences,” Cheney said in a speech to the Heritage Foundation in Washington.
“Our ability to monitor Al-Qaeda terrorists will begin to degrade — and that we simply cannot tolerate.”
The 30-year-old FISA was amended by Congress last year to make clear the National Security Agency and other intelligence operations were legally empowered to tap into electronic communications when one or more of the targets is in a foreign location, without first obtaining the permission of a special FISA court.
But Congress set a February 1, 2008 expiration date on that legislation, called the Protect America Act.
The House of Representatives has passed its version of the renewal law — without protection for telecommunications firms — and the Senate now needs to shape its own version.
But in a letter to President George W. Bush Wednesday, Reid said “it now appears doubtful that a final bill can be negotiated and passed by both houses prior to the February 1 expiration date.”
Reid urged Bush to support a one-month extension so that a full bill can be negotiated between the two houses.
Cheney pressed for a quick resolution to the issue, however.
“This new law ensured that we could quickly close the intelligence gap,” he said of last year’s short-term fix.
The nearing expiration date “leaves Congress only nine days in which to act to keep the intelligence gap closed.”
Cheney said FISA needed a permanent update to address changes in communications technology since it was first put into law in 1978, including empowering intelligence agencies to freely monitor communications between suspects located outside the United States that are routed through infrastructure inside the country.
Human rights experts have argued that US privacy guarantees mean the intelligence agencies should seek court warrants to conduct such spying inside the country.
“Congress never intended to grant privacy rights to enemies overseas, yet because of modern technology, the law began to have that very effect,” Cheney insisted.
Several telephone companies are now facing a lawsuit in California over their cooperation in secret government wiretaps.
“Those who assist the government in tracking terrorists should not be punished with lawsuits,” Cheney said.
“The program has uncovered a wealth of information that has foiled attacks against the United States; information that has saved countless, innocent lives.”
Copyright © AFP 2008
If we were serious about the war on terror we would be changing our behavior towards other nations. And you can’t have a war against a concept only against countries.
I also get tired of hearing we are at war. We are at war because we chose to be at war.
Cheney? Wiretap?
HA! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha!
“Our ability to monitor Al-Qaeda terrorists will begin to degrade — and that we simply cannot tolerate.”
hahahahahaha, what an evil idiot. Dick, go f#$%k yourself, literally. Maybe that way you can apease your primal instincts.
i almost (and say almost) feel sorry for cheney. the lack of any remnant of humanity in him is very apparent. he’ll meet his hell soon, that robotic heart can’t beat forever.
Isn’t that how the world saw the last of Il Duche - wire tap dancing?
I wonder where the money leads in this case. Does it lead to your banking transactions or your conversations with your broker? Does it lead to the club card you have for coupon items? Its got to be for money. His “intelligence service” hasn’t done a thing to stop nuke flyovers or 9-11 incidences. He has stifled all of the government from doing their jobs with his covert acts and his commanded signing statements. What is he gaining? Intelligence, HAHAHAHAHA!
How can you feel sad for a man without a heart?
OK, Remember it was Chenney who started this War on Terror.
His company is still doing business with people he wants to bomb.
Please somebody protect the American People from their leaders! FIO
I’m still stuck in Paragraph One of this “war on terror,” still wondering why no one dares talk about rewriting foreign policy. If the US would get its troops, its bases, and its noses out of Middle Eastern and Central Asian affairs, there would be no need for wire tapping and all the other Stalinist measures because there would be no “terror.” But, hey, that’s just me.
As history has shown time and again, towards the end of any twisted regime, the main players become ever more separated from reality. This has occurred with Cheney. Where exactly is his “bully pulpit” that he can persuade anyone outside of his rabid supporters of anything? If Congress goes along with this, my disdain for them will sink to a low previously unthinkable.
DREAMERTOO
what’s so funny? ‘the program has uncovered a wealth of information that has foiled attacks against the u.s.;information that has saved countless, innocent lives’…………do we believe this? (i’ve worked out imo, but i’m stumped by fio.)
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Is this report real? Did I just read what I think I read?
Cheney said it was “urgent” to renew and update the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) “immediately and permanently” and “close the intelligence gap,”
And Harry (the pussy) Reid then states:
“that a short-term extension would likely be necessary first.”
What the hell is the reason for not just saying NO, Harry? for the love of god Dennis, please hurry.
Impeach,convict,imprison.
“The program has uncovered a wealth of information that has foiled attacks against the United States; information that has saved countless, innocent lives.”
That rebuttal is easy : specify . But I forget most Americans’ trusting response , ” Oh , it must be classified information so I’ll just have to trust him to look out for my best interest. “
Representative government = elections = big money = bribes = threats = corruption = greed = crime = wealth/power concentration = oligarchy = slavery = totalitarianism = Cheney = Mammon = Satan
“The greatest trick the devil ever pulled is convincing people he did not exist”.
Kaiser Sowsek in “The Usual Suspects”.
Has Senator Reid given any kind of reason for seeming to prefer the version of this bill that does grant immunity to the criminal telecom companies who only wanted to “help” their criminal government?
Please bombard his office with phone calls. And thank Senator Dodd over and over and over for putting a hold on the bad bill.
Following this man’s logic, we should also be tracking Al Qaeda’s satellites. Oh, they don’t have satellites? You mean we are not fighting a nation state with technology capabilities? It’s the typical solution of “I will have to kill millions to get just one suspected terrorist (who will turn out to be innocent- but have to pay the price to avoid embarrassment).
All of our congress are wimps, bought and sold, and of top of that, lacking in basic intelligence. They get elected by the equally slow and uniformed who the elected official can just barely stay ahead of. In this case most Americans realize the folly and stupidity of the Bush-Cheney leadership and has the economy dumps on more Americans, then they will finally ask what the hell is going on. Too bad it takes events to get so bad that actually hurt people before they start to give a shit. Most people deserve what has been sown by the asses they elected.
That picture of Cheney, above, was taken at an intergalactic conference of fascists. He was the keynote speaker, his topic,
“We must seek Al Quaeda everywhere, even in Uranus.”
In the United States, power is supposed to reside with the people. As Lincoln put it so eloquently, we are supposed to be a government of the people, by the people and for the people.
The one thing VP Cheney has demonstrated quite nicely is that it is vitally important for the American people to be able to listen in on any conversation in the VP or POTUS offices. Therefore, what we really need are permanent taps on Mr. Cheney’s phone and in his office that can be accessed and reviewed by any American citizen at any time. And the same for Mr. Bush.
After all, the decisions taken in these offices have led to more American deaths than the 9-11 attacks. 9-11 killed about 3000 Americans. The war in Iraq has killed over 4000 and you can add more to that for the war in Afghanistan. Therefore, it seems obvious that for the safety and security of the American people that we immediately be able to listen in on what’s being said in these offices.
Harry Reid won’t say no because he doesn’t oppose this. The leadership of the Democrats does not oppose this. The leadership of the Democrats have supported this sort of police state spying powers for a long time now. This stretches back to the Clinton years.
The leadership of the Democrats did not oppose the Patriot Act. Harry Reid voted in favor of the Patriot Act.
The leadership of the Democratic Party has not opposed any of the 20 some odd bills since that have expanded the police state type powers even beyond the original Patriot Act. Without doing the research, I’d bet Harry Reid has voted in favor of every one of those bills.
The leadership of the Democratic Party does not favor the repeal or a rollback of the Patriot Act. Harry Reid has done nothing to repeal or rollback the Patriot Act.
Please understand this. There seems to be this misconception out here that people expect Harry Reid and the Democrats to oppose this. The reality is that they’ve been onboard and very supportive of this from the beginning.
As to the telecoms, if you really want to know, you probably should go to opensecrets.org and see if you can research contributions from the telecom companies and their executives to the Democratic Party.
Intelligence gap???
Ah ha, they must have got all their information wrong because they didn’t have an accurate map of the precise location of every butterfly flapping its wings that could have an effect on what a million monkeys typing on a typewriter could type during infinity.
That’s what it is.
I heard a rumor that many of the Gitmo “terrorists” had an exactly matching organ-doner tissue type as Cheney.
Will we ever get rid of this guy?
I guess they can now just black you out before they get a chance to tap your freakin Phone!
Ya lost me at “Cheney said…”
The fact that any human on Earth wouldn’t do exactly the opposite of what “Cheney said” at this point is the scariest sign of our near future yet: more Bush - meaning more neocrazyness - no matter who is “elected” to fill his puppet shoes.
Well it went somethin like Lefty proposed that we should have gotten rid of these Richfilth 40 years ago … And then Serious Professor asks “isn’t there a way for some software genious to just insert flagged words like “Kill for Fun” or somethin and wouldn’t that be a monkey in the wrench.
So I propose that we take luckylefty’s idea and end our phone calls with “Bomb the Richfilth!”
But this is just a money scam because they can’t pay their phone bills but Trickydick2 couldn’t care less since he is Richfilth. As they are now data mining to make that work they need thousands of 24/7 listeners to make sure it is the real deal and if a listener said “hey I found Osama or ..Obama”, they always had the power to listen in for 48 hours and if they were real excited they could get a court order… But who is gonna know any of this shit anyway because who has the security clearance to be able to check up on the program anyway…not your local Sheriff and what serious terrorist is gonna talk business on the telephone anyway..I think they heard about wiretapping before they got their PHD’s
Someone must have spiked my drink with some of that crazy neo-CON koolaid, because I just can’t find any logic in the Republican/administration argument for a massive revision of FISA. Their strawman argument is with advanced communications FISA is now too slow, and the legal necessity to get a warrant inhibits intelligence gathering.
I guess it might help if they knew how to follow the directions on the box. FISA allows for retroactive warrants to be secured AFTER they start a wiretap, so how can it be said this slows ANYONE down in ANY WAY?
The telecoms, in a breach of our Constitutional right to privacy, with a fascist collusion between corporations & government, broke the law (except for QWEST) and should pay the penalty. NO retroactive immunity. Do the crime do the time. Case closed!!!
Damn, I just saw on the news Dennis Kucinich dropped out of the race. Another voice of reason marginalized by MSM, AIPAC, neo-CON, Zionist, un-American intent. I guess our only hope now is Edwards 2008.
Cheney and Bush obviously want to extend their powers by proxy thru Reid and Congress. This will help delay their coup d’etat. I wouldn’t trust either one of these ass holes with a red hot stove. ANYTHING THEY WANT, I AM AGAINST. Other than that, I have an open mind!!
Incidentally, Reid and Pelosi have got to go. Pelosi is a weak sister and a disgrace to her sex. Reid is afraid of his shadow.
Will anyone congratulate me from leaving the Democrat Party and going Independent?
The fact that Cheney is asking Congress instead of Bush only further proves that the big Dick is running the show.Does anybody remember voting for him?
We are all in big trouble
This is a money scam by paranoid Richfilth…
It is not too slow to tap freely on a target for 48 hours after you find something to get a court order which would take just another phone call.
This makes since because it cuts down on wasting their time with hiring tens of thousands of listeners going through all the “Bomb the Richfilth” recordings.
There is no security in overkill… but what do the Richfilth know about the economy anyway.
Hey we could make a living pointing out how the Empire falls!
Big Jim, as soon as I saw the bumper sticker that read “VOTE FOR BUSH AND GET DICK” I knew the price of KY gel was going sky high. My butt has been sore for 7 long years now so will someone PLEASE take impeachment from the floor and put it back on the table where it belongs?
I asked Dennis to drop out and become a real congessional revolutionary!
We got too many folks wantin to be Prez and we need our revolution now…not after the freakin elections!
Dennis shows he cares about the revolution more than his EGO!
The Neo-conservative movement is based on the tv shows, Perry Mason and Gunsmoke, a man who is clever and probably lying and classic good vs evil. They have lied about everything, and I mean everything. The soviets don’t have an acoustic defense sense system on their subs, the neocon’s group B, imagine, group B, explain that the Soviets are so advanced, their submarine systems are non-acoustic, ie. they don’t exist. Weapons of Mass Destruction, don’t exist, the Soviets were masterminding all terrorism in the world, ergo let’s attack them at every point. Mythomaniacs, the world is being run by mythomaniacs, LIES, LIES, LIES. Fake it ’til you make it, or ’til you break it. Running on the fumes of the last lie, they forge on, deny, deny, tell another lie. Enough with this we take your liberty and privacy away to keep you free. DOWN WITH THE LIARS, NOW!
Back to the basics boys and girls, stop government surveillance, stop killing people you bloodthirsty lying jackals.
And in the end, all of these lies have stopped us from the force of good, stop forcing your twisted nightmares on us you neo cons (liars), we want the politics of dreams again. Its time to overthrow the outdated infrastructure and start anew; we have the technology to do it! For instance, right now, wind energy costs around 7.5 cents per kilowatt hour, you may pay a little less than that, but isn’t it fun to build up a new world, over all you’ll pay, 400 dollars more a year, but within 10 years of a major buildup the prices will go below what you’re paying today, because wind doesn’t need input like coal, it has 0 marginal cost, which technically means the cost of energy after the infrastructure is built is very close to 0.
Electric cars!!
Stop using technology to force on us a state of paranoia, free the people from the politics of fear.
Dismantle all nuclear weapons, I PROMISE if we do, the world will follow suit.
The only enemies of mankind are the ones who wish to enslave him. Fear, Lies and Killing are all techniques, always used to enslave mankind; optimism, kindheartedness, forgiveness, giving, FREE mankind, isn’t that what the United States has been founded on since 1776, isn’t that what The Revolution was about, when did this country become archenemy to its own Revolution?
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When did this begin?
Well we could go way back but in my personal experience (I am no historian)
It was when the National Security guys told Phil Ochs and me to go to Texas and observe the JFK operation.
Then they don’t pay any attention to what we observed and then it was all legit to hide the truth so that the New World Order could rob us blind and say it is all to prevent the Mushroom Cloud thingy.
That is it in a nutshell… and it takes one to know one.
Let’s have permanent wiretaps to root out something arguably more insidious than terra-ists: corporate and white-collar crime.
Evil succeeds when good men do nothing- MLK Jr.
Where are the clergy condemning the 900+ lies that got us into Iraq. And the tens of thousands about everything.
How do you kill a vampire? Drive a stake through its heart and cut its head off.
The Heritage Foundation- A neo-fascist group if ever there was one!
These foundations are just front groups of authoritarian/corporate interests, with academics-for-hire, to lend an aura of legitimacy and to dilute the actual source of the ideas.
busterkikki January 24th, 2008 5:01 pm CONGRATS! Now, Please write in KUCINICH ..on the ticket or not!
Senator Edwards is asking us to protest this latest move by Vice President Cheney to our senators and representatives. Unfortunately, my senator is Harry Reid. I doubt if he will listen.
Dear Mr. Cheney,
Since I assume you have both man and machine working tirelessly to sift through vast amounts of information to destroy all those who may show you the least hostility, let me apologize on behalf of some of our disrespectful citizens. I assure you Sir, none of them really means harm. Well, perhaps some of them genuinely want to see something, well, how should I put it… something distasteful to happen to you. But not me Sir, I’m your wing man. When angry mobs have surrounded your bunker, I will be among them yelling for Mercy. And so, I hope you will take that as a sort of quid pro quo; that is, I hope you’ll grant me a waiver for the Halliburton camps as a sort of favor. Again, even if you have to put me in a camp, at least Sir, if I could be given light duties, you know, a decent post at the bottom as it were; I assure you that I am merciful and hope you are as well. The future looks so bleak, I think we all need to consider all possible scenarios, no? I do hope you agree.
Thanks & holiday cheer,
Stiv
Thursday 24 January 2008 - Associated Press
Washington - The Senate on Thursday rejected an attempt to expand a secret court’s oversight of government eavesdropping, sticking instead with a surveillance bill favored by the White House
Here it is. Congress has become a Greek Chorus for the White House. following is the link if you want to read the entire (short) disgusting article.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/012408R.shtml
kathyodat
About half of Americans want Prsident Cheney impeached. He has the support of about 20%, but 50% do not want to impeach. 50% of Americans feel that breaking the law, conspiring to make war unprovoked (war crime), and conspiring to usurp the power of congress, is acceptable. The people have spoken. The law does not apply to those in power. Live with that.
Land of the somewhat free, and home of the hardly brave.
Instead of sitting here talking about it - how many of you have donated money today for Kucinich’s House reelection campaign? If we want to get these slime impeached then we need to support the only guy with big enough balls to keep after it. Go there and donate something and keep him in congress!!!!! Get your friends and family to donate something, too. This is the one who does not have corporate support and he needs US to keep him in there to fight for US.
Gee - I hope nothing happens to Cheney - because George Bush would become President.
Hey, COMarc, who in the world do you think is responsible for the nearly three thousand victims of the 9/11 attacks (not to mention the folks who have died as a result of the toxic atmosphere as they worked in the rescue and clean-up efforts)? Check out some of the voluminous materials that deal with the questions that still remain unanswered 7 1/2 years after 9/11. Check out Amazon for books by David Ray griffin, Eric Hufschmidand a host of others - - they make an even stronger case against Cheney and his honchos in the neo-com establishment, to say nothing of so many so firmly entrenched inside the Beltway.
Of the countless innocent lives saved by Cheney’s surveillance program you would think they could name just one. Of all the al Qaeda plots foiled by vigilant eavesdroppers at the NSA, you would think they could name just one. If there is this grim, silent, invisible shadow war going on behind the scenes, wouldn’t you think we would catch a glimpse of it, just once? I have begun to question the existence of these terrorists in which Harry Reid and all of Congress and most of this edgy, guilt-maddened country still fervently believe. All I see are terrorees.
“Congress never intended to grant privacy rights to enemies overseas, yet because of modern technology, the law began to have that very effect,” Cheney insisted.
The unelected war criminal vice-president of the United States spews yet another passel of lies.
FISA was carefully designed to facilitate efficient eavesdropping of communications between US and foreign locations in a hostile environment with court oversight. The court oversight is necessary to prevent abuse - exactly the kind of abuse perpetrated by this lying criminal vice president.
There is no question over the vice president’s intent - it is to perpetrate a continued assault on the sovereignty of nations to steal control of their natural resources to feed the petro-capitalists’ profit system of grotesque energy inefficiency and gluttony.
Kaka on that. Impeach the criminal, try and jail the slime for war crimes. Cut power to the 700+ imperial outposts, and bring the “troops” home and let them do something productive for a change, like grow a garden.
Quote: “dlnelson7 January 24th, 2008 11:14 am
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I also get tired of hearing we are at war. We are at war because we chose to be at war.”
Whether you choose to be at war, or it’s forced upon you to have to defend yourself in war, you [are at war]. So even if the U.S., et al, constitutes the aggressor bringing war from hell to innocent people and a country that had absolutely no desire for war, the U.S. is still [at war] and at war-making.
Very simply, “we are at war” does not say or indicate what kind of war it is that you or “we” are fighting, that is, one of aggression or of defence; but that’s how you seem to misread these very simple words, “we are at war”.
So either you’re misreading, or you did not quote or include enough from references you had in mind. If the latter is not the issue, then you could just say that the U.S. is [at war of aggression], for fitting clarity.
Quote: “rebelnow January 24th, 2008 1:22 pm
That picture of Cheney, above, was taken at an intergalactic conference of fascists. He was the keynote speaker, his topic,
“We must seek Al Quaeda everywhere, even in Uranus.””
Unless you’re talking about other than planet Uranus, then NO; not “even in Uranus”, but “even on Uranus”. Surely; although, if they found nothing ‘on Uranus’, then maybe they’d then try to find a way to look ‘in Uranus’, like below or behind surface, as ‘in’ usually means.
‘In’ vs ‘on’.
You surely don’t mean the mythological Greek god Uranus, …; etc.
Maybe Cheney was enjoying a play on words.
kathyodat
Quote: “COMarc January 24th, 2008 1:43 pm
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The one thing VP Cheney has demonstrated quite nicely is that it is vitally important for the American people to be able to listen in on any conversation in the VP or POTUS offices. …”
Sorry to BREAK this OLD NEWS to you this way, but what is above-quoted from your post is NOT NEW; well, not in terms of the reasons anyway. Stating the reasons might be new, but the reasons themselves aren’t.
More from COMarc:
“After all, the decisions taken in these offices have led to more American deaths than the 9-11 attacks. … Therefore, it seems obvious that for the safety and security of the American people that we immediately be able to listen in on what’s being said in these offices.”
THREE POINTS:
1) Interesting to see that only 3,000 Americans were killed in the U.S., 4,000 U.S. soldiers have been killed in Iraq during this present war, and an unstated number killed in the parallel war on Afghanistan; while NEGLECTED are the far greater numbers of tens of thousands, potentially hundreds of thousands, eventually, of very seriously injured (physically and psychologically) U.S. soldiers, and KEY, the HUGE NUMBER of innocent Iraqis and Afghans killed in these present wars.
That’s said without meaning to discount the many millions of Africans and Palestinians and … also killed and extremely brutalised, …, again due to the rich corporations of the West.
2) “listen in on what’s being said in these offices”; YES, [these offices], not only Cheney’s or the VP’s office, SVP!
With this Cheney-Bush adminisration, Cheney’s office and the offices of the officials working directly for him, these very likely are enough; the P.’s office doesn’t need tapping, for it’s not where decisions are at all made since 2000. BUT prior presidential administrations justify that the P.’s office also be tapped.
Therefore, yes, “[these] office[s]”, [all] of them.
3) Why only ‘listen’, why not also video cameras filming every second that there are people present in these offices; as soon as there’s one person alone, then the cameras capturing everything in the room, so everything that goes on there, well, besides for invisible ghosts anyway, all of this information gets recorded FOR, OF, and BY THE PEOPLE?
And everything that’s faxed and e-mailed gets cc’d (cc, for recipients’ email addresses to be included to the cc’d people) to a number of independent monitoring groups working for, of and by The People.
After all, plenty can be done without needing for a single word to be pronounced. Remember, deaf people and people who are unable to speak both communicate and do things most people do and say.
The Deaf may communicate better than the other deaf people can or do, but the latter can also communicate. Don’t know the difference between Deaf and deaf? I didn’t, either, until a few minutes ago; but see the ‘usage note’ at http://www.thefreedictionary.com/deaf .
JIM GLOVER
i think you’ll enjoy this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pGht71KFkY
It would be fun to bug the energy council meetings and listen in on how they plan to get the Iraqi oil in our refineries.
There is only one reason why Cheney does not want even secret judicial review of covert surveillance. He intends to abuse it. These guys gotta go!
To my congessmen and senators. Just say NO to this insanity. Then proceed to impeachment proceedings.
“Wherever justice is uncertain and police spying and terror are at work, human beings fall into isolation, which, of course, is the aim and purpose of the dictator State, since it is based on the greatest possible accumulation of depotentiated social units.” (C.G. Jung, “The Undiscovered Self”, p. 102)
COCO
FISA court approved, yes (”saved countless, innocent lives”); Dick Cheney approved, no (cost countless, innocent lives).
Right now we have some really good leaders and some really bad ones; Dick Cheney, bad.
Impeach Cheney and perhaps we wouldn’t be importuned for this unconstitutional legislation. Let AT&T, Verizon, and others defend in court their supine willingness to give the Feds access to customer’s private records.
It is true, ArbeitMachtFrei; our collective action is essential; together we will .. depotentiate the dictator state and .. realize our “Common Dreams”.
Democracy, it’s people!
When Bush and his entire cabal is in prison, will be the moment when America will be America gain.
Thanks for the song Coco. www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pGht71KFkY
It is so inspiring I must learn it.
Mr. Vice President - here, please let me warm up your morning danish for you.
Just stand here next to the microwave and watch it to make sure it’s heated just the way you like it. Yes, now stand just a little closer, sir.
Of course! Doesn’t the criminal always return to the scene of the crime?
You want to post a picture of me Nspire, ask first Okay.
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I love it. N spire, LOL
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
¿ KEM — Do I need to get your inner child’s permission
from your inner mother?
Naw go ahead and post my pictures, put the one up where I moon him.
Geo — I’m watching you
PNAC, Freedom, aka liberalism is bad.
JIM GLOVER
circa 1969 - easy lyrics but meaningful words…………
COSMICHARLIE
precious
STIV WHITMAN
see ya………….
DREAMERTOO
makes sense
NSPIRE
that thing is going to give me a billious attack…………..
KEM PATRICK
ah, there you are…………
Gee, KEM & nspire, when I look at the picture of Kem mooning the object of our rejection (Cheney) for awhile I swear I see six billion butts in the air with their pants at their knees.
My brother used to tell me, “Most people want what they think they deserve, yet don’t think they deserve what they get”
Cheney is the exception; we neither wanted nor deserved him.
Yet another reason to impeach is given to us. Except…
I wrote to my senator; and this is her form letter response:
senator@feinstein.senate.gov wrote:
From:
Subject: U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein responding to your message
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:19:52 -0500
Dear ………..:
Thank you for your letter concerning impeachment proceedings against Vice President Richard Cheney. I appreciate the time you took to write and welcome the opportunity to respond.
In our most recent elections, the American people expressed clear disapproval with the path this country was on. They are tired of partisan politics and of an Administration that pays little heed to the wishes of the American people. They want-and deserve a Congress that holds the Administration accountable and fulfills its Constitutional responsibility to check and balance the Executive branch. I share this sentiment and am determined to work hard and across party lines in the United States Senate to promote issues that are of real concern to most Americans, including the situation in Iraq and Afghanistan, homeland security, global warming, and lobbying and election reform.
At this time, however, I believe that impeachment proceedings against President Bush or Vice President Cheney will only divide the country even further, frustrating our hopes for a meaningful change in direction, while having little chance of success.
I have been deeply disappointed by many of this Administration’s actions and have been outspoken in those instances. Nevertheless, given the challenges our country faces I believe that we need to focus on constructive and cooperative steps that would lead us in the right direction.
Again, thank you for your letter. If you have any further questions or comments, please contact my office in Washington, D.C. at (202) 224-3841. Best regards.
Sincerely yours,
Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator
Further information about my position on issues of concern to California and the Nation are available at my website http://feinstein.senate.gov/public/. You can also receive electronic e-mail updates by subscribing to my e-mail list at http://feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=ENewsletterSignup.Signup.
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Read it and weep. I would like to tell her that moving forward in “constructive and cooperative steps” is all well and good, but how about punishing the bastards for CRIMES AGAINST THE ELECTORATE, AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION, AGAINST THE BUDGET, and against humanity; and for fraudulent practices while in public office and positions of power; waging an unjust and unwarranted war in Iraq, and all manner of other felonies and misdemeanors!
Not a lot of good that would do. We have a WUSS CONGRESS and a felonious administration, and the former wants to let the latter get away with it all, Scott free. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO CHECKS AND BALANCES?
Supreme Court, you say? MY DIMINISHING BUTT! THEY ARE THE ONES WHO PUT BUSH INTO OFFICE IN THE FIRST PLACE… And in the second place,the crooked elections boards/committees in Ohio and Florida put him in office, too.
Americans need some healing here, Mz Feinstein, and that is what Articles of Impeachment are for - healing the victims and punishing the criminals, eliminating the malfeasance and cleaning house. Speaking of cleaning house, Americans really need to clean both Houses: Senate and Representatives.
Brother, am I ever ready to move to Canada.
Ilof Musich
hahaha dreamertoo and I love Kem’s moon em idea!
I though Canada is on Bush’s hit list too.
They’ve got oil and water. Dont run there.
Can’t — help — myself. I’m drawn to read hard-core “true crime” obscenity like this story. I feel so — dirty! Till next time…
there is an old comedy routine by george carlin (i like this george) about phone taping back in 60s.
he said (slightly paraphrased) “people used to think their phone was taped so they’d answer “FUCK HOOVER YES HELLO?”
Ive been doing an updated version of this lately.
hey maybe that would be kinda fun if everybody did that answering their phone. HINT HINT just a thought.
sometimes getting pissed off all the time is too draining for me and dark comedy is the last peaceful refuge.
Yall have fun trying this out.
love and comic relief.
I recently saw a movie titled, LEGEND, starring Will Smith. He and his dog were the last sane beings on earth.
As I read the request of this False Administration, based upon of the facts of the stolen elections, I think we should just lay down and die, that way they can have the entire world to themselves.
Can you imagine a world without Humans?
I live on the US/Canada border, there are 3 US Fed agencys along the 10 or so watery miles that have been beefed up since Bush declared war, Customs, Coast Guard and DHS(Dept of Homeland Security) They all tripled in manpower and have 2 or 3 new boats and SUV’s to zip around in and support the Arab oil cartels.
So if this war on terror is so serious and important, why do the DHS agents clock in in the morning and out before dark?
Why are the other agencys not patroling at night?
If you were a terrorist, when would you cross the border in a small boat?
They really are not serious about this “war on terror”
how come this guy never was stopped by anyone as he rowed across the this supposedly well protected International border in broad daylight?…..
http://www.bang-bangs.com/invades.html
Why?