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The New Corporate World Order
The debate over Republicans’ insistence on continued tax breaks for the superrich and the corporations they run should come to a screeching halt with the report in Tuesday’s Wall Street Journal headlined “Big U.S. Firms Shift Hiring Abroad.” Those tax breaks over the past decade, leaving some corporations such as General Electric to pay no taxes at all, were supposed to lead to job creation, but just the opposite has occurred. As the WSJ put it, the multinational companies “cut their work forces in the U.S. by 2.9 million during the 2000s while increasing employment overseas by 2.4 million, new data from the U.S. Commerce Department show.”
General Electric, which was bailed out by taxpayers and which stored so much of its profit abroad that it paid no taxes for the past two years, was forced to tighten up, but while cutting its foreign workforce by 1,000 it cut a far more severe 28,000 in the United States. Jeffrey Immelt, the CEO of GE, recently appointed by President Barack Obama as his chief outside economic adviser, admits that this does not involve poorly paid work that Americans don’t want, but instead prime jobs: “We’ve globalized around markets, not cheap labor. The era of globalization around cheap labor is over. Today we go to China, we go to India, because that’s where the customers are.”
There is a bitter irony in that statement given that consumer purchasing power is down in the U.S. thanks to the devastating collapse of a housing bubble GE Capital fed with suspect mortgage financing that provided the company with well over half of its profits before the crash. The loss of well-paying jobs at multinationals like GE to other nations—54 percent of the GE workforce is foreign—exacerbates the plight of U.S. consumers while making the foreign customers even more attractive.
Of course it will be argued that multinational corporations have the right to arrange their business as they see fit in order to maximize profit. But if that is the case, do beleaguered American taxpayers have to foot the bill? When those corporations run into trouble overseas because of financial hustles or hostile locals and need the diplomatic and military might of the U.S. government to protect their interests abroad, it is again the U.S. taxpayer who must pay to maintain this new world order. It is an order, as we see with three current wars and a military budget that rivals Cold War highs, that is contributing mightily to the U.S. government debt. More than half of all discretionary spending, the dollars that the Republicans in Congress now want to take out of needed domestic programs, is accounted for by defense spending. That defense spending to support a massive network of military bases and deployed weapons and troops is key to establishing an order in which the interests of American corporations are attended to. If the companies don’t feel that way, let them operate under the flag of Liberia or the Cayman Islands.
No less important than U.S. military muscle is the power of the American government to construct and enforce a worldwide trade and finance structure to the advantage of U.S.-based multinational corporations. That is why the companies spend so much money lobbying Congress on matters ranging from regional trade agreements to international banking regulations. It is precisely the impact of trade agreements like NAFTA that has facilitated the erosion of well-paying jobs. And it was the deregulation of international banking standards, led by the U.S. Treasury Department under the past five presidents, that created the conditions for the recent disastrous housing and banking meltdown.
Big government, the devil that Republicans love to inveigh against, is big precisely because it is so active in so many costly ways in serving the interests of our biggest corporations. Corporate lobbyists attest with their every breath that big government and big business are bedmates in a bountiful venture that impoverishes the rest of us. It is time to admit that we are, in practice if not surface appearance, close to the Chinese communist model of state-sponsored capitalism that sacrifices the interests of ordinary workers, be they in the public or private sector, for the exorbitant profits of the superrich. It is the corporations that need big government to protect their interests, and one would hope they would be willing to pay for the services that their government so faithfully renders to make them obscenely wealthy as it studiously ignores the well-being of the rest of us.


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Show AllWhile the rest of the mainstream media contniues to give us our daily dose of "gut social security and medicare to cut the deficit" propaganda, Scheer's concise observation of the facts needs to be posted in every workplace in America to remind workers that tax breaks and miltary industrial complex corporate welfare are driving the deficit, not Social Security and Medicare.
Humbert Humphrey once described "trickle-down" economics by saying:"When you feed the horses, eventually the birds get something to eat."
That says it all.
WELL said! That indeed says it all. And we are the birds....
And he lost the presidential race to Nixon, because of a "war". Now candidates win the presidency because of a "war". How far we have fallen as a country.
Thanks, what's next? water is green, the sky is blue? so?
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"Big government, the devil that Republicans love to inveigh against, is big precisely because it is so active in so many costly ways in serving the interests of our biggest corporations."
I hope that everyone who reads this very clearly-written article by Robert Scheer
will share it far and wide.
It was a good column. He should have placed the blame where it belongs, though: both parties, not just Republicans. Democrats also talk about "entitlements" and freeze pay for federal employees and want to chip away at Security and Medicare. I wish those write columns for large audiences would just knock it off with party politics and get to the issue at hand: we have to fight back against both parties.
You are so right!! Both parties are but a wing on the same vulture.
CaliGrown78, "you're so right, also"!!!!
Both of the highly sophisticated, modern, and well disguised TWO-Party "Vichy" facade that covers-up and runs blocking drills for their single NFL or WWF owners --- the hidden global corporate/financial/militarist EMPIRE, which has taken-over our former country (and others) by hiding behind the Empire's 'bought and owned' political pimps, would bring tears of admiration to Hitler and Goebbels' dead eyes for having accomplished what they could never do with their early and crude, single-party "Vichy" facade in 1940 France.
Yes, CaliGrown78, both of these phony, faux-democratic, "Vichy" parties are nothing but handmaidens to the stealth and lurking violent Empire behind the curtain.
And the shame is that so obvious a trick as simply having TWO "Vichy" parties instead of one, as the Nazi Empire used, has been so damn effective in fooling most Americans.
The other analogy that I often use to show just how deceived and propaganda-deluded most Americans are of this friggin political "show" is to use the example of Charles Schultz's yearly fall football comic strip, in which Lucy offers to hold the football for Charlie Brown to kick. And despite the fact that Lucy promises Charlie each year to "really, really, really, hold the ball" --- she always yanks in away just as he enthusiastically kicks, and he falls on his arse.
Americans think this recurring cartoon is sooo funny each football season, and that Charlie is sooo dumb to trust her again. And yet, all the hidden violent Empire that actually runs the US did was to perfect the trick of having TWO-Lucies [a TWO-Party "Vichy" lie] and all those laughing, superior feeling Americans are really the ones that this fucking Empire is laughing its arse off at.
But, CaliGrown78, it's getting a little better after each disgusting, disappointing four year "election" cycle now.
At least some of the deluded Americans are recognizing that both the Lucy liar in the red-dress, and the Lucy liar in the blue-dress are both lying each and every "election" cycle. And in fact, with the latest blue-dressed Lucy-liar, Obama, having sooooo obviously kicked us and the US in the arse, and done nooooothing that (s)he promised AGAIN, more and more good, honest, average, middle/working-class Americans seem to be FINALLY waking-up to this old TWO-Party "Vichy" scam --- and they are FINALLY getting really, really, really MAD, --- and some of them are ACTUALLY recognizing that it is an "EMPIRE" behind all this lying and cheating, and "royal ****ing" that they are giving us both domestically and abroad in; foreign oil wars, domestic economic oppression, income inequality, bank and Wall Street looting, corporate whoring, spying, torture, environmental destruction, oil explosions, nuclear plant disaster BS, shitty education, poor kids, tax fraud ...... that they are almost, nearly, finally, and JUSTIFIABLY getting as pissed-off at being lied to and tricked as that dumb ol' Charlie Brown.
And we have a place for them to go when they all wake-up to the violent Empire that stole not just their money, homes, and jobs -- but also their liberty and democracy.
Alan MacDonald
Liberty & democracy over violent empire -- People's Party 2012
CaliGrown78, not to put too fine a point on it, but ---- it's not actually that "Both parties are but a wing on the same vulture", but that "Both parties are but a wing on the same EMPIRE".
Besides the extreme importance of understanding this, Cali, we don't want to give vultures a bad name.
Best,
Alan
Excellent article.
It's way past time to put abolition of Corporate Personhood into MSM.
except the MSM is the public relations division of "corporate personhood". Sort of like asking the chamber of commerce to restrict multinational corporations.
i agree with you, but more that that, we need to demand our states de-charter these abusive corporations.
Yup. But, if enough signs say "A Corporation is not a Person," then it will eventually grow as a movement. Six words. Put it on a sign, a T-shirt, grafitti, bumper sticker.
Perhaps Vermont can start by de-chartering GE.
peacemaker, "Yup. But, if enough signs say 'A Corporation is not a Person', then it will eventually grow as a movement."
Yup, but if we just put four words on a rally/protest/campaign sign, bumper sticker [which we have]
Democracy
Over
Violent
Empire
People's Party 2012
Then people are already recognizing that all the bad shit happening is caused entirely by the corporate/financial/militarist EMPIRE, which fully controls our former country by hiding behind the facade of its 'bought and owned' TWO-Party modernized "Vichy" sham of faux-democratic government and equally "Vichy" corporatist media, and we ARE bringing down the EMPIRE that is the power behind all corporate/financial/militarist and Political BS and problems globally and domestically.
Nobody likes 'Empire' and more importantly the hidden Empire is scared shitless to the people even seeing the word 'empire' --- which is the most taboo word in America --- because everyone among the good, honest, average, middle/working-class 90+% of Americans remember as part of their genetic material that Empire means bad, evil, awful, looting, oppressive, royalist, and most importantly ANTI-Democractic/ANTI-Republican self-government ---- as in Paul Revere shouting "The British (Empire) is coming. The British (Empire) is coming. ... and now the Empire is here".
Corporations don't mind being called 'corporations' all day ---- but they are scared shitless of being recognized as the EMPIRE behind all 'symptom problems' global and domestic --- or as Hannah Arendt presciently said:
"Empire abroad entails tyranny at home"
All good American "democracy-thinking" (and anti-Ruling Elite 'empire-thinking') people --- perhaps with the exception of paid empire whores like Michael Bachman, who does even know that the original Tea Party was against the friggin British EMPIRE's economic arm, the royally chartered and monopolistic East India Corporation [Hell, she doesn't even know where the 'shot heard round the world' against that friggin Empire was fired], everyone else knows deep down inside that Empire is the exact opposite of democracy and is NOT a republic!!!.
But anyway, peacemaker, everyone who counts, and who can be counted on to confront anything, will at the most common rallying cry in our country that won its freedom, liberty, democracy "Against Empire", most certainly be against empire --- if they merely know that this IS an Empire that has taken over their country.
And we are finding that that message and knowledge and commitment is now being heard and absorbed by one hell of a lot of Americans who had been previously fooled by both of the GD "Vichy" do nothing parties that lie through their teeth and will never represent the people but are only the pimps of a disguised Empire.
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Liberty & democracy over violent empire -- People's Party 2012
Global People's Anti-Empire Movement -- 2011/NOW!
Alan,
Respectfully, your rant misses the point - Corporate Personhood is a "legal fiction" that allows Corporations to rule the world. Corporations are presently given the rights of human beings by being included in the term "We the People" of the Preamble.
Abolishing Corporate Personhood will castrate the Corporate rulers.
A Constitutional Amendment beginning with the six words, "A Corporation is not a Person . . . ." will do the job. It is a simple, constructive, and peaceful solution. Since it's ultimately the only solution IMO, it needs to be front & center.
Good luck with trying to get a People's Party candidate on the ballot. If you do, I'm all for it, brother. The acronym is excellent - DOVE
americans are suckers plain and simple
we live in delusion that we are special - close to god - or is it that he is close to us, oh well same diff, he blesses our bombs, especially the humanitarian ones
the economy is a sucker's ponzy scheme of public debt and private profit, as it always has been
we foot the bill for corporate wars to ensure corporate profits and then can't find the cash to treat wounded soldiers
while the corporate execs cash in on bonuses, insider trading and bailouts
obummer gets his billion for re-election and life is good
by the way, don't worry about the nuclear shit going on in japan - it'll be right as rain in another million years or so, btw stay out of the rain if you can for the next 60,000 years - its gonna be a little on the radioactive side - nothing to really worry about though
no problem....
I'm not a sucker, but I have been lied to over and over by all politicians and the media. Only recently have I also connected anothere set of dots to this corrupt mess known as the US. All three branches are in on it or else one would have stopped the other. The two SCOTUS appointed under Bush where an obvious connection to those about to lay the gauntlet down on all Americans.
I didn't sign up for this and I wasn't born into it. I have become trapped, and am ready to break out.
you say: I'm not a sucker, but I have been lied to over and over
hmm....
You are in the same boat as the rest of the folks you are calling suckers.
A life jacket won't help you either so when you need your meds, at least be civil with the other passengers.
Well, they've lied to all of us. That doesn't mean we're suckers. That doesn't mean everyone believes in their bullshit.
The growing minority of ones that DO believe their lies, despite evidence to the contrary, are the suckers. They want so badly to believe in Obama or any other asswipe politician, because it makes them feel safe and secure to think that their daddy is watching over them. They are the suckers. We're not.
I am coming to this conclusion too, I hear about MI and all the new laws where the governor appoints a reciver for an area, even thought no bankrupcty has been filed, who kicks out the elected officials, sacks teachers & state workers en-mass and the sheeple just stand about and moan about it,,, Man up he's only one guy, take him out he decalres war on the people and all you can do is moan and whine, (There are instuructions to build a guillitne on the web). Use the timber from the home you just lost! DO SOMETHING!! throw rocks like the Palistinians but DO SOMETHING!
Or wait to be lead to the slaughter, it may look like a shower, but don't belive it!
>^^<
"americans are suckers plain and simple..."
Excellent comment. Gotta go now; back to my oxymoronic "reality TV" and simply moronic talk radio.
Corporations + government=textbook definition of fascism (what mussolini called CORPORATISM). Us and china, both, in a global fascist (modern version of feudalist) world order. We are merely the "security department" (for now) in this global empire. This is what the oligarchs are hurriedly striving to build. Too late for them. Their foundation for their edifice-of-empire (the money power) is crumbling as we speak; not to mention the on-coming earth changes that will FORCE people to practice "loving thy neighbor"(ie. taking care of the suffering masses of people during the imperial collapse/earth changes.
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Robert, I don't feel we are living in a New Corporate World Order. Corporations are a visible target and red herring.
I think - for 95 percent of Human Beings - Earth has become a Neo-Capitalistic Concentration Camp. That body of humanity is trying to eke out a futile but reasonable life span, compared to the other 5 percent. Reproduction is war with sticks and stones against tanks
Remember (with pity and understanding) what, during WW2, some Jews did to survive. If survival for some male meant wearing a Nazi arm band and herding relatives and friends up der Himmelweg into gas chambers - - - if for a comely female, survival meant choosing one of two children to be murdered, and being a sex slave to priapic Nazi officers - - what would WE do to survive?
As the first victim of War is Truth, the first victim of Capitalism is Dignity. The commonality of articles posted to Common Dreams is wailing and gnashing of teeth over this verity.
Trylon
Hey Trylon. Elizabeth H here.
I haven't been posting much this last week because I was trying to keep my piddly university teaching jobs, which I think I have suceeded in doing, but along the way found out that the universities can now snoop into all my emails, and most probably do.
Yet along the way I had an awakening. There are a fark of a lot of young people out there who know pretty much exactly what is going on. The propaganda machine has backfired. TPTB went too far.
Now these kids are starting to wonder: would I rather be a serf or gamble my life for the good of all? As their chances for the "American Dream" crumble around them, more and more are going to go for the latter choice, particularly the veterans. I've been tasting a decided shift in these young people's thoughts, and had until recently been mortified by how many had gone totally fascist. But I've been finding out that the smarter ones are going the other way. This should get interesting.
If I had a Piddly University teaching job, what I would want to present to students is a comment that was made at the UN headquarters by Lester Pearson. He was a (worthy) winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, and followed John Diefenbaker (whom I had the pleasure of meeting) as the Prime Minister of Canada. What Lester (Mike) Pearson said to an audience of young persons in Manhattan was: "Loyalty to humankind supersedes loyalty to nation". Although Toronto has an International Airport bearing Pearson's name, this quote is nowhere to be found at that airdrome.
In Africa are the nations Togo and Chad. One has to presume that each one has a National Dream, and I await publication of a scholarly document that compares and contrasts them.
In my opinion, the American Dream has bifurcated - one group settling upon the winning of a Humongous Lottery ---- while another group leans toward the inspiring possibility that a hardworking American prostitute can be taken to an actual OPERA and marry the wealthy John who hires her body (Pretty Woman). "Nessun dorma."
Anyway, by fair and reasonable standards, the present government of the United States can be viewed as illegitimate. It is the product of (masturbatory) monetary autocracy and not the democracy encapsulated in the U.S. Constitution. This War Lord condition, however, is not just that of the United States. Our species is a political prisoner of DNA.
We err in assigning DREAM to humans only by national identity. Those =dreams= doom our species far less than DREAMS held and advanced by WORLD RELIGIONS. The VATICAN DREAM parts one and two sent the French and then the Yanks to war in Vietnam. At present, the MUSLIM DREAM results in the cavity searching of Southern Baptist children at U.S. airports.
Pacem in terris.
Trylon
Trylon, your logically on-target and emotive comments closely resonate with my own thinking.
I have thought and written for years that from the humanist and empathetic 'democracy thinking' of the majority of American working-class citizens, that "it’s hard to imagine, in this very modern 21st century, that we are still looking toward the end of the last of tribal ‘empire-thinking’.
We are a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural, multi-racial, even post-racial, sectarian, mixing-pot-world of democracies on a small fragile planet --- and yet, we are still not beyond the danger of existential death at the hands of ancient and irrelevant tribal ‘empire-thinking’.
As only Kurt Vonnegut’s sense of ironic black humor might envision, “It is as if the whole human race was about to sit down to a celebratory picnic for successfully reaching our 21st century, when we are all unexpectedly killed by one remaining giant dinosaur.”
The last people in the world who should want to stay in (or ever promote) a world of tribalism, are the Muslims and Jews ---- based on how they have been abused by various nationalist and other modern “-ist” Empires.
Fighter pilots have a saying that, “speed is life”. But, for all the rest of us, “inclusiveness is life” --- and tribalism is death by the oldest lies of empire.
Racism is another deadly old lie of empire, as is aggressively fundamentalist religion.
Nationalism is a somewhat newer lie of empire, proving deadly in the 20th century.
While, economic ideology is the newest, and current, lie of empire (which is causing our economic and environmental collapse).
But all the lies and deceptions of “empire-thinking” lead ineluctably to the very same grave --- so choose your empire poison, stupidly. Or choose your inclusiveness, wisely.
Best, to you and yours,
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Liberty & democracy over violent empire -- People's Party 2012
Global People's Anti-Empire Movement -- 2011/NOW!
bogi666 wrote:
“Dignity is the ability to protect yourself and your family from abuse that's how dignity is stripped by the USG taking away the ability to protect yourself and family. AS for me in the 1950's school children were subject to mock nuclear attack drills. This was obedience training of school children with imagined fears of being nuked.”
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My Reply:
I would like to mention two things.
1) Something Eleanor Roosevelt supposedly said, which is relevant to defending oneself from propaganda, peer pressure, and ad hominem attacks.
2) Something about the Star Spangled Banner and Pledge of Allegiance, which is relevant to the use of both these ritualistic and nationalistic forms of group expression as propaganda.
First, I am re-posting part of a comment made under another article which was originally intended to address an individual person’s own vulnerability to ad hominem attacks.
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PuffinThrush wrote:
“Eleanor Roosevelt is supposed to have said:
"No one can make you feel inferior without your permission."
For most of us the point of vulnerability is when we in some way or another however small agree with, perhaps even admire, our critics.
Patient compassion for ourselves as well as for the harm that has been experienced by others is the best answer to that vulnerability, and to our own anger and frustration that results from the unwarranted attacks we experience.
This will not change the fact, however, that there are some pretty awful people in the world.”
Excerpt from the Comments under “Clean Energy Revolution Won't Be About Clean Energy” by Keith Harrington.
Article URL: www.commondreams.org/view/2011/03/28-5
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Second, I am re-posting an excerpt from an article that appeared on Common Dreams on November 17, 2009 regarding the Pledge of Allegiance.
I am posting this excerpt because for a number of years I have had increasing difficulty standing by (at kids' sports events) while the Star Spangled Banner, the United States national anthem, is played in cult-like celebration of a government that has openly been committing the most unspeakable acts of violence and oppression for many years. Fortunately, as an adult I am not often subjected to the Pledge of Allegiance.
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Excerpt from “The Pledge of Allegiance is un-American: Shouldn't the government pledge allegiance to the people rather than the other way around?” by Michael Lind, Salon.com November 17, 2009,
“Ironically, the Pledge of Allegiance, which today is most fiercely defended by white conservative Southerners whose Confederate ancestors tried to destroy the United States in the 1860s, was written by a Yankee socialist from New York in the 1890s. Francis Bellamy was a progressive Baptist minister and a Christian socialist who composed the pledge for the 400-year Columbus anniversary in 1892 and published it in a youth magazine. His cousin Edward Bellamy, a socialist from Massachusetts (Glenn Beck, are you taking notes?), was the author of the 1888 bestselling utopian novel "Looking Backward: 2007-1887," which described a collectivist America in 2007 in which everyone is drafted in an "industrial army" and dines in public kitchens. (Instead of an industrial army, the United States in 2007 had a reserve army of the unemployed and working poor, and instead of public kitchens we had Starbucks.)
The Bellamys, like many at the time, were inspired by the integral nationalist and statist ideals that were percolating in Europe. From the 1890s until the 1940s, American schoolchildren often accompanied recitation of the pledge with "the Bellamy salute," a stiff-armed salute of the ancient Roman kind that was indistinguishable from the later fascist and Nazi salutes. Heil Amerika! It was Franklin Roosevelt who suggested replacing the salute with a hand over the heart.”
Article URL: www.commondreams.org/view/2009/11/17-8
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Although I did not post a comment when I read this article, I felt good that someone else realized that the most important problem with the Pledge of Allegiance wasn’t the “one nation under God” phrase.
By the way the "one nation under God' phrase was not written by and included in the pledge by the original author of the pledge socialist Baptist minister Francis Bellamy, but was inserted into the pledge during the Eisenhower administration in the 1950s at the urging of a Presbyterian minister, the Reverend George Docherty, during the height of the Red Scare against Godless communism.
You know sometime during that period of time when Wisconsin Senator Joseph McCarthy and The House Committee on Un-American Activities (Richard Nixon) became famous for Red Baiting, black listing people, and engaging in other despicable forms of intimidation.
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The current text used in the pledge:
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under Law, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
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The most important problem with the Pledge of Allegiance is the very fact that a people who as a group are supposed to be the ultimate sovereign of the democratic government of the nation are asked, perhaps even required, to pledge allegiance to that nation’s flag and the republic (i.e. to the not necessarily democratic form of government of that nation) for which the flag stands, when at the same time according to civic myth that republic is also supposed to be a genuine democracy, where government is supposedly “of the people, by the people, and for the people”
Why should the people be asked or required to Pledge Allegiance to themselves?
The answer, of course, is that the people are not pledging allegiance to themselves, but to those powerful people who actually control the government.
And the reason why the people are asked or required to pledge allegiance to a government that is controlled by powerful people who have vested interests different than their own, is because those powerful people benefit when the rest of us feel a connection with, a responsibility for, and an obligation to a government that those powerful people control.
The state of Vermont requires prospective voters to sign a Voters Pledge when registering to vote. While I will not post the text of Vermont’s Voters Pledge (the text is available through the web), I do think that it would be appropriate for society through government to make available to prospective voters at the time of registration and at the time when voters cast their votes a Voters Covenant. I will post a description of what I think the Voters Convenant ought to say.
Voters Covenant Proposal
The Voters Covenant should acknowledge that the primary role of government is to control and reduce the abuse of power in society, that the people as a group are the ultimate sovereign of the nation and of each of the individual states, that those in power in the government do not always act in accordance with the best interests of the people, that legitimate democratic government is based upon the consent of the self-governed, that in order for an election to determine if the consent of the self-governed exists for any of the alternatives on a ballot, voters must be allowed to express their dissent and opposition, which means in single issue or single member district elections that voters must be allowed to vote directly for or against each of the individual alternatives on the ballot so that the election will actually be able to reveal whether or not any of the alternatives on the ballot has received the consent of the self-governed, and finally that the people have a responsibility to themselves and their neighbors to cast votes which they believe are in the best interest of the whole community not simply just in their own best interest and which contribute to the primary responsibility of government to control and reduce the abuse of power in society.
Of course, the Voters Covenant should also be discussed in civics classes in school.
The parts of government the Tea Party and their corporate backers want to get rid of are regulators and human services.
OK, all of you Obamabots out there. Why in the name of all that is good would you want to double down on your mistake and vote for Obama again? Please enlighten me! And please, don't read anything from Rachel Maddow, Ed Schultz or Thom Hartmann verbatim. I know it's hard, but use your own words and form your own sentences. Come on impress us! And NO, yes we can is not an acceptable answer!
Fear drives the voting decisions of most Americans, not just Obambots.
Fear of Palin is the most widespread excuse Obamabots give for supporting Obama.
Yup. "Well, he's better than Palin." You'll hear that one a lot. Exactly HOW Obama is "better than Palin" they can't precisely say.
Coke vs. Pepsi. Coke will eat the lining of your stomach faster than Pepsi, but they both get the job done in the long run. That's why I drink PEPSI!! The idea of maybe drinking something else, like fruit juice, never occured to me....um.....
Our government is the corporations. Corporations own all three branches of our government. It's all out war against the population now. There is not one of these Ivy League corporate CEO's that would care if half the population of the United States was snuffed out. The richest one percent of the population could give a shit if you live or die. They are completely amoral. They don't care.
Z1,
No "Obamabots" here and nobody even knows who else is gonna be running against Obama.
I may have to vote for the best peace candidate no matter what party.
Tell us what candidate you want to win and how they can get at least 50 million votes just to have a chance.
"Please enlighten me!"
Z1,
MSNBC is SO much more truthful in their presentation and content than your FOX could ever be. FOX has been caught in so many lies and false, reprogrammed, redubbed film footage that it makes me embarrassed to be an american and a us veteran. Yet, people watch 'them' and let MSM righties do all the thinking for them. If you or anyone who wants to see the rich get richer without paying their dues, and when in need of care when their Medicare voucher is all used up, and when they have no social security (when they paid in all their lives) to help them survive-I sincerely hope that when you come to the walls of the corporations for help, they crap on your head. Believe the lies and support the masters, I will live and die knowing that in my heart I wanted to see and live in a society that cares about it's people..
The cure......Civil Disobedience ! !
"It is time to admit that we are, in practice if not surface appearance, close to the Chinese communist model of state-sponsored capitalism that sacrifices the interests of ordinary workers, be they in the public or private sector, for the exorbitant profits of the superrich."
So, Mr. Scheer a paid and respected journalist even now still can't seem to say the word.
It's called FASCISM, you freaking stooge, so say it!!!
And now people here are going to say that Mr. Scheer has been a tried and true member of the left for years, etc etc, but, seriously, how can one not doubt his insight/sincerity when he still can't correctly describe what is going on the United States as he avoids the word "fascism" for what...? Political correctness? Fear of hurting the Beltway's feelings?
If you're not at the point as a journalist where you are using the word fascism to correctly describe what is going on in this country, then you really are wasting everyone's time because you are still clinging to the propagandistic reality that has been created by our overlords.
He avoids fascism because it's not fascism. Fascism isn't the only political system that incorporates police state powers.
Except for the obligatory backhand against the left that is often his trademark in the end about China's "communism" dismissing ordinary workers' needs, this is the one thing that I think Scheer does well in this nice piece. He does properly label and identify the primary culprit.
So what should we call it?
Bad-bad-boyism?
You're making me unconformtablism?
Don't hurt my sensibilitiesism?
Here's Umberto Eco's take on what constitutes fascism:
From wikipedia:
* "The Cult of Tradition", combining cultural syncretism with a rejection of modernism (often disguised as a rejection of capitalism).
* "The Cult of Action for Action's Sake", which dictates that action is of value in itself, and should be taken without intellectual reflection. This, says Eco, is connected with anti-intellectualism and irrationalism, and often manifests in attacks on modern culture and science.
* "Disagreement Is Treason" - fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action.
* "Fear of Difference", which fascism seeks to exploit and exacerbate, often in the form of racism or an appeal against foreigners and immigrants.
* "Appeal to a Frustrated Middle Class", fearing economic pressure from the demands and aspirations of lower social groups.
* "Obsession with a Plot" and the hyping-up of an enemy threat. This often involves an appeal to xenophobia or the identification of an internal security threat. He cites Pat Robertson's book The New World Order as a prominent example of a plot obsession.
* "Pacifism Is Trafficking with the Enemy" because "Life is Permanent Warfare" - there must always be an enemy to fight.
* "Contempt for the Weak" - although a fascist society is elitist, everybody in the society is educated to become a hero.
* "Selective Populism" - the People have a common will, which is not delegated but interpreted by a leader. This may involve doubt being cast upon a democratic institution, because "it no longer represents the Voice of the People".
* "Newspeak" - fascism employs and promotes an impoverished vocabulary in order to limit critical reasoning.
From another scholar, Dimitri Kitsikis:
1. The idea of class and the importance of agrarianism
2. Private ownership, the circulation of money, the regulation of the economy by the state, the idea of ethnic bourgeois class, economic self-sufficiency
3. The nation and the difference between nation and state
4. The attitude towards democracy and political parties
5. The importance of political heroes, i.e. the charismatic leader
6. The attitude towards Tradition
7. The attitude towards the individual and society
8. The attitude towards equality and hierarchy
9. The attitude towards women
10. The attitude towards religion
11. The attitude towards rationalism
12. The attitude towards intellectualism and elitism
13. The attitude towards the Third World
Naomi Klein's ten steps to fascism:
1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
2. Create a gulag
3. Develop a thug caste
4. Set up an internal surveillance system
5. Harass citizens’ groups
6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release
7. Target key individuals
8. Control the press
9. Dissent equals treason
10. Suspend the rule of law
Seriously, dude, there were Jews living in Nazi Germany who also thought the glass was half-full and hesitated to call a spade a spade until it was too late.
Many prisoners upon entering the gates of concentration camps justified the beliefs in their own safety and humane treatment upon their faith in humanity, that man could never do such unspeakable things to other men.
That what was happening couldn't possibly be happening because it didn't fit their own worldviews.
Now that we as a species have these clear examples of what happened, please tell us why we should NOT observe the clear similarities between previous fascist societies and our own and send up warnings to our fellow human beings that it is indeed starting to happen again.
The American right fell in love with fascism from the moment of its invention. Indeed the resentment expressed by them against FDR arises from the view that he tricked them into going to war against their beloved Adolf Hitler. It is most likely that if anyone but FDR had been president in 1941, the US would have helped the Nazis against the Soviets. For a great deal of this secret history of the US, see:
http://home.roadrunner.com/~markwrede/NonFic/NaziHydra.pdf
Let's try hammering another nail in this endless labelling controversy. I wish it didn't matter, personally, because no one would really have to care what it's called. I think it's important to understand the truest possible nature of any "enemy", so this is a minor sideproject of mine. But it's somewhat complex.
First, this is global corporatism. Not in the sense that Mussolini used the term, but in the sense of what it is and does and how it operates. The only utility of Mussolini's own confused barfings--and I think we'd probably agree that Mussolini's skills as a philosopher were probably minimal--is that he at least ties fascism directly to the nation state. That's a really important distinction that you've left off in most of your definitions above.
Second, most of the traits above can describe *any* police state--whether it's a theocracy, absolutist monarchy, military dictatorship, etc. In that sense, they're less about fascism than they are about autocracy.
Third, Eco's and Klein's definitions are placed into the context of national politics (and this is where things get tricky, because most formal political systems are still tied to nation states whereas *real* power is exercised through private entities that have no substantial national allegiances at all).
Fourth, what is actually looking like fascism is largely rhetorical, not real. In other words, since we are not citizens of a formal global regime, we only vote or effect politics at the level of the nation-state. Fascist rhetoric--and often even policy where fascism overlaps with global corporatism--is a means to mobilize votes in a particular state. *WE* think like national citizens, but corporate power does not--which is indicated pretty explicitly by Immelt's remarks in the piece. But our votes are necessary to enable the corporate project to operate, so nationalist appeals tht are the hallmark of fascism, for example, are used in order to obtain policy outcomes favorable to corporate power. But if you think that GE does what it does to advance the glory of the American state, you might want to think again.
Fifth, and most importantly, is the order of power between fascist states and global corporate organizations. In a ascist system, the interests of the state are paramount. There are no exceptions to this rule. So, for example, if America were genuinely fascist, the behavior of corporations would be oriented primarily to advancing the national interests of the US and the US alone. I freely admit that there are many occasions that look like this is happening, which is why the temptation to talk about fascism exists at all. But in a global corporate order, the *exact opposite* is what occurs--the state exists as a vehicle to advance private power. I contend that this is what is happening.
There are many areas where global corporatism and fascism overlap, some of which I've just described. They are both right wing systems, both autocratic, both rely heavily on coercion and force to work. But they are not the same, and the differences are important for people to understand not only what is actually happening, but how to defeat this emerging social system.
I get from your last three paras that you are assuming that by rejecting the fascist label that I am downplaying the threat. This is incorrect. I think the new corporatism is far more dangerous than any national fascist state. I also think that the new corporate order will be more difficult to ultimately defeat--although as an industrial form of governance, tied to an unsustainable model of operation, it will eventually kill itself.
I'm already at book length, so I'll stop. Besides, this is about the eighth time that I've tried to communicate this point, and it just gets lost in all the screaming.
OT note: If I'm not the only person having trouble with this new comment system, will someone at CD please get the software vendor to clean this shit up? I won't donate another nickel until it happens. Thank you.
I understand your point of view to which I would only answer:
Much like how the elite overlords overstep their bounds in thinking globally of their dominions and their imperial push, I believe leftists also fall into a similar trap in trying to globalize struggles that while similar across nations each have their own unique histories and mixes of conflict and interest.
Whereas you seem to believe a global response is necessary to global corporatism, I believe that in as much as the global responses may be similar the histories of nations and national identities will prevent such a international coalition.
What are we supposed to sit here in America and wait for the rest of the world to wake up to the creeping corporatism in their countries before we act or vice versa?
Is there any possible way this could happen all at once?
Doesn't the corporatism seen in each country tend to couple itself with existing prejudices as to race and gender often specific to that country's demographics?
Fascism in Italy was different from fascism in Germany is different from fascism in 21st century America.
Yes, they all had global drives, but in each country the "flavor" was different and I believe is best confronted by that country's population.
This is why I still believe fascism is the correct term and most accurate term.
Whereas the globalizing forces of capitalism follow rote paths as it sweeps across the world - the privatization of public goods, etc etc - the politics and their systems that become coupled with that corporatism thrive upon the peculiarities of each state.
Fighting the threat of global corporatism globally - while sounding righteous - I think is pie in the sky compared a nation's confronting the specter of fascism as it exists in each specific country.
Yes, global corporatism is a menace but again due to the differences in peoples, their political systems, their histories and their leaders, it is best and more accurate to use the labels we have given these phenomenon from the past and start working from there.
"What are we supposed to sit here in America and wait for the rest of the world to wake up to the creeping corporatism in their countries before we act or vice versa?
Is there any possible way this could happen all at once? "
Oh goodness, not at all! Frankly, the rest of the world is much more awake than we are. They're waiting for us, not us waiting for them.
Globalizing the reality of this struggle is necessary, but all people have a part to play in their own lands. We may have one of the more important parts, since this monster largely arose from our shores and its desired nest is here.
In the end, we'd both be on the same side of the barricades regardless, so i won't push the issue, and I regret that my explanation wasn't clear enough, but that's one of the drawbacks of this medium.
A rose by any other name...as the Bard once noted.
Arguing over labels seems counter productive though you both do a fine job of it. It seems to me that what we have is an international fascism infecting almost every corner of the globe. The fascism of Mussolini was indeed local to the state of Italy yet today multinational corporations with no clear allegiance to any nation run amok in many governments installing or abetting dictators who enable stability for massive investments or massive rip offs of resources .
If , as you note ,the rest of the world is more aware of the tentacles of the monster than are we, it is probably because our standard of living , in decline though it most certainly is, still remains high and gives a certain false security to our population. But given the current examples of Egypt, Syria, Tunisia, Libya et al I doubt that others are waiting for us to discover our own chains. The monster that is world wide fascism may have its corporate offices in the USA ( though they will claim them to be in the Caymans or wherever taxes are nonexistent) but it can be killed without our assistance I think. That may be a very good thin considering the reluctance of this nation to see clearly their own slavery.
I can see why you'd find simple attractive. Hopefully you feel better now.
The devil is in the details.
I am sorry that your head hurts when forced to read anything except comic books.
Well, you needn't bother reading my contributions then.
Although I wouldn't let that stop you from criticizing what I say.
Err, defensive much? My remark, had you taken the pains to look first, were directed , not at you ,but at a detractor of your thoughts.
Oh well, now you play Emily Latella...." never mind then!"
PuffinThrush previously (intended for maciek) wrote:
Well, you [i.e. maciek] needn't bother reading my contributions [to the global corporatism vs fascism debate] then.
Although I wouldn't let that stop you [i.e. maciek] from criticizing what I say.
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Doubledee wrote (presumably directed at PuffinThrush):
“Err, defensive much? My remark, had you taken the pains to look first, were directed , not at you ,but at a detractor of your thoughts.
Oh well, now you play Emily Latella....’never mind then!’"
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My apologies doubledee.
I am offering apologies now only because I am now assuming that your own remarks as quoted above were directed at me, given that those remarks as quoted above were directly posted as a reply to my own comment.
My own reply however was directed at maciek as I have belatedly tried more carefully to indicate here by inserting bracketed text to clarify my intent.
You may have noticed that I usually take great pains when I post a comment to be more explicit about such things. However, that involves extra work on my part, increases the length of my posts which already tend toward the overly long, and therefore probably results in many people who read comments here simply skipping what I have to say.
I really can’t blame them.
I find it ironic that one of the relatively few times I didn’t go through all this extra work, someone (in this case apparently you, doubledee) mistook my comment as directed at them even though my reply might have been seen by anyone viewing comments using threaded list mode as probably directed at maciek.
Oh well! Confusion abounds in our Tower of Babel!
While my hearing like Emily Latella’s is not what it used to be, my hearing still is pretty good, thank God and praise be to Allah; since I really love all kinds of music despite the fact, and I think this is some sort of rambling non-sequitur, that I am only a rather geeky and obsessively perfectionist, mystery loving, non-theist (i.e. atheist) Quaker praising our supposed maker.
Blaise Pascal is supposed to have said that “a man [or woman] is not great by being at one extreme or the other, but by touching both at once.”
I like that quote.
While I don’t think greatness is something us mere mortals should aspire to, what the heck I don’t really mind giving it a try, since I can always count on the high probability that the results might actually be funny.
By then, yet again I doth rambleth too much!
:>)