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What PBS Thinks You Need to Know: Replacement for Now & Moyers fails to fill their shoes
When Bill Moyers announced last November that he would be stepping down from Bill Moyers Journal, and PBS decided to cancel its other Friday night news show, Now, the network lost two hard-hitting independent programs from its lineup. To fill the hole, New York PBS station WNET--which had produced the two Friday shows--announced the launch of a new one-hour program, Need to Know, hosted by Newsweek editor Jon Meacham (who has since left the magazine) and former NPR, MSNBC and MTV host Alison Stewart. The show rolled out on more than 90 percent of PBS stations in May (Broadcasting & Cable, 3/22/10).
FAIR (3/9/10) issued a statement expressing concern that Meacham's hire "sends a clear and troubling message about PBS's priorities," given that the then-editor of Newsweek was a fixture on commercial TV pundit shows and a consummate purveyor of middle-of-the-road conventional wisdom with a conservative slant--not exactly a face or a perspective that needed yet another media platform, particularly not on public television.
Meacham's approach to journalism seemed to be antithetical to the hard-hitting approach of Moyers and Now; he had called on journalists to "cover other institutions as you would want to be covered," with "charity and dignity and respect" (Meet the Press, 1/1/06). This Golden Rule approach to news was illustrated when he intervened in a Newsweek online story about Joe Scarborough, a personal friend who often invites Meacham onto his cable show, to remove from the lead the fact that Scarborough had served as the defense attorney for the murderer of an abortion provider (FAIR Blog, 6/11/09).
WNET president and chief executive Neil Shapiro defended the choice of Meacham and Stewart. "They are both incredibly smart," he told Broadcasting & Cable (3/17/10). "And I think, given their intellect, neither are people you can pigeonhole left or right." By Shapiro's logic, of course, anyone who is actually on the left or right can't be very bright, an insult to PBS's progressive and conservative viewers.
Shapiro later told the New York Times (5/2/10) that while "there's no replacing Bill Moyers...the issues that Bill raises" would be among the show's topics. Stewart similarly told the L.A. Times blog Show Tracker (8/5/10): "Obviously, you can't replace Bill Moyers. That's just a ridiculous notion.... We're just doing what he set out to do: seek out the truth."
Of course, Moyers leaves big shoes to fill, but he actually was replaced once--by David Brancaccio and Maria Hinojosa, who took over Now when Moyers left to relaunch Bill Moyers Journal. Both shows featured subjects and voices often missing from corporate media. In recent years, for example, Moyers interviewed Jim Hightower and Howard Zinn on people's movements and struggles against powerful interests; single-payer advocates Dr. Marcia Angell and Wendell Potter; and Cornel West, Serene Jones and Gary Dorrien on faith and social justice.
Such subjects and sources admirably fulfilled PBS's purpose as set forth by the Carnegie Commission of 1967: to "provide a voice for groups in the community that may otherwise be unheard," to serve as "a forum for controversy and debate," and to broadcast programs that "help us see America whole, in all its diversity." Meacham actually expressed a similar understanding of PBS's role (Globe and Mail, 8/8/10), explaining that it's meant "to fill the spaces created by network and cable news." How well is Need to Know fulfilling that purpose?
To find out, Extra! studied Need to Know from the program's debut on May 7 through July 30, 2010, a total of 13 one-hour shows with 297 sources. Sources were coded by gender, nationality, ethnicity, occupation and, in the case of political professionals, partisan affiliation.
Need to Know's website describes the program as "not a television broadcast with a secondary online presence. Rather, the site and the TV program work together to complement each other." However, as of November 2009, the show's Web audience was only around 3 percent the size of its broadcast audience on New York's WNET(Current, 4/5/10)--which itself makes up only a fraction of the show's audience on PBS stations around the country. This more influential on-air content was the focus of Extra!'s research.
Need to Know's U.S. sources in the period studied were 78 percent white (196 of 250). With seven appearances, Latinos made up only 3 percent of all U.S. guests, though they account for 15 percent of the U.S. population. Only three Asian-Americans (1 percent) and no Native Americans or Americans of Mideastern descent were featured on Need to Know.
African-Americans made up 12 percent of U.S. sources (29 sources), on par with their representation in the population. Two segments during the study period focused on race, one interview with Root journalist Terence Samuel (7/23/10) and one with Harvard law professer Charles Ogletree (7/30/10). However, more than half of African-American sources appeared in segments on prisons and on drug abuse. Three of the seven Latino sources appeared on a segment about the U.S./Mexico drug war.
That one of the show's hosts is an African-American woman is certainly a step in the right direction, but women of color were particularly underrepresented as sources, at only nine total (4 percent). They were outnumbered by men of color more than 3 to 1.
Seventy percent of the show's sources were male. That male bias was more heavily skewed on stories about foreign affairs, at 80 percent, versus 65 percent male sources on domestic stories.
Need to Know featured several segments on hot-button subjects like birth control, gun control and medical marijuana, but it couldn't break out of the narrow commercial media box with its guest lists. The marijuana segment (on the "runaway beast" of medical marijuana clinics in California) featured exclusively white men, seven of the eight gun control segment guests were white men and seven of the eight birth control segment guests were white women.
Need to Know's source list drew frequently from U.S. government officials (15 percent) and journalists (9 percent), though it also featured a number of "person on the street" interviews (10 percent), which were typically very brief and often anonymous opinion or reaction soundbites. Every U.S. journalist source but one (Terence Samuel) was white; aside from Barack Obama's four appearances in file footage, only two of the 40 other U.S. government sources were people of color.
Corporate representatives outnumbered public interest activists 20 to 12. Activists represented perspectives ranging from gun rights advocates and the anti-immigration group Federation for American Immigration Reform to advocates for the environment and reproductive rights. Only two think tank representatives appeared during the period studied--Charles Stimson of the conservative Heritage Foundation and Brett McGurk of the centrist Council on Foreign Relations.
Need to Know featured relatively few professional politicians, but of those who appeared, Democrats outnumbered Republicans 18 to 12. However, all but three of the Democratic sources were shorter taped clips, while six of the Republicans were live guests. Five of the Democratic sources were brief historical clips featuring former presidents and Sen. Robert F. Kennedy. Most of the Democrats were federal elected officials or judges, while half of the Republicans were local officials. One independent--New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg--was featured, and one guest, McGurk, served under both Republican and Democratic administrations.
Need to Know typically features one or two lengthier in-studio interviews, followed by produced segments with taped sources. The sources in these extended interviews were slightly more skewed toward white men than sources overall: Among the 31 people given the show's higher-profile platform, only eight (26 percent) were women, and of the 27 U.S. sources, only four (15 percent) were people of color-all African-American men. No women of color were featured. At 12 sources, journalists were the most represented group in these extended interviews, followed by government officials with four sources.
The most frequently discussed topics were Afghanistan and Iraq (12 segments, including four in-studio interviews) and the BP oil spill (seven segments, including seven in-studio interviews). The war segments featured 43 sources, nearly half of whom were associated with the military: 14 were current or former military and seven were family of military. Another nine were government sources, including those with military backgrounds like John McCain.
Unlike on most news programs, though, the majority of the military sources were not top brass but rather ordinary soldiers; one segment (6/25/10)--a followup to a segment originally reported by Now--looked at the relatively undercovered story of injured vets and the family members who care for them.
Thirty of the 43 war segment sources were white, five Afghan, four black and one Latino. (Three could not be identified by ethnicity.) Eight were women (22 percent), all of whom were white. No activists and only two academics (one of whom, Andrew Bacevich, was also military) were featured.
When Need to Know discussed the WikiLeaks document release (7/30/10), a trove of classified information showing, among other things, military doubts about the Afghanistan War, Stewart introduced the show: "Much ado about nothing or putting lives at risk? The effects of the WikiLeaks on the war in Afghanistan." The circumscribed choices--what about much ado about something?--made the choice of guests unsurprising: Joshua Foust, a blogger/writer who was a critic of WikiLeaks and was generally skeptical that there was much of value in the leaked reports.
The oil spill segments featured 50 sources. Five were people of color (10 percent), all but one of whom were male. Twelve of the oil spill sources were women (24 percent). Source occupations varied widely; the most-represented category was corporate sources (12), followed by environmental experts (7) and government officials, artists, journalists and people on the street (five each). Two were activists, one of whom was an unnamed community leader (7/2/10) saying only, "People are breaking down."
There were surprisingly few segments related to the economy, given the ongoing economic crisis during the period studied. Three segments looked at financial regulation (5/28/10, 7/16/10), one at drug money laundered through U.S. banks (5/28/10), and one at the "tiny house movement" among people looking to save money and help the environment (7/30/10). Every source in these segments was white. Men outnumbered women eight to five; of the three in-studio interviews on the economy, one (7/16/10) was with Elizabeth Warren, chair of the Congressional Oversight Panel.
"Journalism is the first rough draft of history," Meacham told the L.A. Times (8/6/10). "And some drafts are rougher than others."
There's time yet for Meacham, Stewart and Need to Know to smooth out their draft, but their record so far provides little encouragement that it will ever serve as an adequate replacement for Now and the Bill Moyers Journal.
Research by Michael Morel and Steve Rendall; research design by Steve Rendall.
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Show AllI watched a few episodes of the new program when it first came on but found it very light and frankly lame, sort of a 60 Minutes without some of the geriatrics. Have to also say I've found the same thing with Frontline & Nova. Now I watch aljazeera's Faults Lines, Empire etc. as well as TVOnt and CBC's Passionate Eye & speciality Documentary channel. Just thinking I've realized I've also almost completely shifted to listening to the various radio shows on Australian Broadcasting Corp. as well as online SlowTV, also Australian. RT is also great, as it has guests not usually seen on corporate or it seems on North American public media. I love their lampooning of US corporate supposed news TV.
"I watched a few episodes of the new program when it first came on but found it very light and frankly lame" -- pangloss
I, too, watched the first two or three episodes, and determined that the program, Need to Know, hosted by Meacham, was NOT worth my time. I watched both David Brancaccio and Bill Moyers every Friday, usually, the next day on my computer. I miss both programs -- NOW and Bill Moyers Journal.
First, Moyers was a captive of his Protestant beliefs and harbored an unstated belief in American exceptionalism. That belief offered him cover in NEVER addressing or recognizing the Great American Genocide of American Indians. That lack of courage and omission calls Moyers journalism into serious question.
PBS is a neocon toolchest. Look elsewhere for your information and vision building. PBS and NPR have also become the playground of Zionists. Avoid supporting either of them.
Finally, the 21st Century model of information is not centralized in a person but decentralized in all of us. It takes the talents of us all to cope with the challenges of hyper change to prevent chaos. The game has changed and today, no one person can comprehend the magnitude of the consequences of our visions. It is the collective visions of us all that are needed. Today WE are the publishers.
Your list of Moyers' shortcomings are accurate, but this does not nullify his honest, intelligent, and frequently eloquent legacy.
I was probably very wrong in this, but after I watched one of Moyers' shows back in the 2008 primaries, when he and a female commentator spent a whole show discussing the Democratic candiates, and absolutely ignored Dennis Kucinich, never even mentioned his name, I vowed never to watch Moyers, or PBS political commentary, again. I have stood by my rather silly vow.
I had identified Kucinich as the only one, apart from Gravel (also not mentioned) I could truly support in my first ever US election.
PBS? Do you mean the Petroleum Broadcasting Service? Have you seen who financially supports PBS? These are some of the worst corporations & endowments out there? Mansanto? DOW? ADM? And PBS is running commercials on our supposedly public network? Give me a break.
Anyone who thinks that PBS is liberal most likely believes the Democratic party is liberal as well. Please!
Both of these frauds, the DNC and PBS are used for cover for those who would prefer to close their eyes to the fight that is needed for a true progressive movement.
Some of PBS' and NPR's corporate sponsor credits are cleverly scripted to brainwash.
One spot from a company (that nobody ever heard of) repeatedly tells us they are engaged in "renewable energy including wind, solar and nuclear" After hearing this line every day for months on end a majority of the audience will consider nuclear power renewable.
The truth is that ossified thinking and beliefs must be brought into the 21st century. That is part of the resason these shows are not "worth the time" as was mentioned above.
Regurgitating the theories ans politics of the last century is looking pretty silly in todays reality.
PBS has been on a steady decline for some years now -- Moyers being an anomaly. I watched the program replacing his for all of twenty minutes the first time it aired and haven't watched it since. Time is a precious commodity, and hardly worth wasting on Meacham.
Neil Shapiro says "Neither are people who can be pigeonholed . . ."
For Pete's sake, shouldn't we be able to at least expect correct English from such people?
Jim Shea
Pangloss:
Where can one find the programs you mention?
Stone:
OK. So Moyers is not perfect. He was still VERY, VERY good. None of us is on top of every subject.
Jim Shea
Jim, ignoring the purposeful elimination of over one hundred million people and it's continuation into our times is a big omission. By comparison, six million Jews were killed by the Nazi's and Moyers addressed that regularly. No, no one is perfect but to ignore the biggest story in the last five hundred years is pitiful.
PBS = PURE BULL SHIT
My personal library contains a book bearing the title: Listening to America: A Traveler Rediscovers His Country, 1971, Harper's Magazine press. The author of this interesting work is Bill Moyers. It was a slightly more intellectual take on the America so beloved of Charles Kuralt - whose televised segment of CBS Evening News I tried never to miss. To me Kuralt's pieces WERE the REAL NEWS.
If Bill Moyers were ever to reprise one of his services to this country, I would most want to see him On The Road. Sadly, at present this would be mostly an extremely depressing activity. Pleasant or good news in America is more rare than undiscovered gold. The question I would want Bill to ask run-of-the-mill Americans is: Does the United States even HAVE a future?
--Trylon
"On The Road" -- Trylon
Good idea! Out on the road in the U.S.A. talking to citizens across the country.
I too miss Bill Moyers and NOW; but the current Need to Know is not all that bad, just bland. It is still a far better choice than Faux News or the gasbags on right-wing radio.
The problem seems to be lack of gravitas on the part of the host and reporters alike. Face it, not many folks in journalism have the courage that Bill Moyers and company have when it comes to calling the powers-to-be out on their questionable behavior and statements. It takes a lot of moxie to take these folks on and not worry [too much] about the personal consequences. Phil Donough was another journalist who took on the powers, but when he returned to TV, the war did him in.
Give them some time, they will find the "voice" in all of this mess.
We don't have time.
We need the real journalism: The kind which "afflicts the comfortable and comforts the afflicted."
Rockerbabe1: I don't know if they will "get better" but, since I tape everything I watch on tv (rabbit ears only) I fast forward through the fluff. I thought the interview with Ray (can't remember last name--the ex-CIA whose comments appear regularly on CD) was great when he kept saying the reason the FBI arrested the "Russian spies" was because budget negotiations were coming up, was worth it. Whether there is more of this or more fluff as time goes on, we shall see.
Also, I find it disturbing that the critique in this article is about skin color and genital shape rather than ideas.
Others have mentioned RT (Russia Today). For those who don't see this because their expensive monthly connections don't want them to know about the competition, this could be the sleeper news success of the season. They interview many dissident voices on the left and right (e.g. Danny Schecter, Paul Craig Roberts) about war and civil liberties, those who never get seen on mainstream tv. They took on Glen Beck when he called them state tv from Russia. Most of the anchors and reporters appear to be hot babes under 30 with brains. And they tried very hard not to laugh when interviewing people at the Value Voters Conference.
For those who hate PBS--what other news outlet will broadcast Al Jazerra and Russia Today?
I watched the first show, and when I saw Meacham, I quit watching it. He espouses even handed reporting when he really just uses that excuse to do no real, Moyer/Brancaccio like, reporting at all. Meacham, as is typical of his Newseek mag, is not a reporter at all, but a lackey.
It used to be that I would watch Democracy Now daily and Moyer/Brancaccio on Friday nights. Now, it's just DN. There is no other program on tv worth watching if you want real news.
The problem with the Need To Know and other such "replacements" is not outright disinformation, but their essential lightness compared with Moyers' NOW, or as another commenter described it, their lack of gravitas. In other words, you're witnessing a very skillful transitional activity that gauges its audience quite carefully and recognises the need for some intermediary "fluff" rather than any rapid and blatant changeover to pure propaganda.
Don't worry. Although the frogs may find the initial temperature changes marginally tolerable, the thermal ultimate will be reached quickly enough.
Like a rapist saying they will do it gently.
Steward says she will do what Moyers did-- follow the truth. Maybe that's what they tell themselves but I can assure you that they reflexively back down before they even get close. One journalistic sign that one is approaching the truth is a feeling of being uncomfortable, of sensing that even one's own beliefs may be misleading or inadequate. Bill could go there, he wanted to know. Meacham and Steward don't want to go that far and neither to the program's producers.
This PBS prgram was made possible by:
Exxon-Mobil
The Archer Daniels Midland Corporation
Boeing
Monsanto
Lockheed-Martin
Chevron
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
and by gullible suckers like you...Thank you.
Don't forget the name, David Koch, as in the same David Koch who co-owns Koch Industries and also generous backer of the Tea Party Movement.
That's an interesting lineup of what makes the American Empire tick.
"This PBS prgram was made possible by:
Oil
Sugar
War
Sugar
War
Oil
Robots
and by gullible suckers like you...Thank you."
High Fructose Corn Syrup is MUCH worse than sugar... But otherwise spot on...
PBS is censored corporate media.
Just check out the list of monster corporations that fund PBS as well as foundations owned by the super rich !
It takes a lot of money to finance a news corporation on any level. Local patrons like myself can only afford so much in terms of support. Corporate sponsors are mentioned at the beginning of each new show and are openly listed in the ending credits and if a news piece features an industry expose, then the sponsorship is also mentioned. Can you say that Faux news does the same disclosure? No.
Unfortunately, money is the grease of the news engine and even PBS has its needs. The PBS Newshour is heads and tails above the commercials news offerings. At least they discuss the topics with intellience and civility and no name calling.
Charlie Rose is another matter; women only seem to be part of panels, except when there is a real dignitary in the hot seat; Madeline Albright comes to mind. He could be another Bill Moyers, but that would require bravery. Washington Week in Review is good, but still way too many white guys on the panel. Despite my complaints, PBS still has a better and more accurate group of shows that any commerical or cable outlet.
I used to watch Charlie Rose once in a while. I stopped because he is an "ass-kisser" to power. Except when he had on the nut-job President of Iran, where he really laid into him, probably because Rose's nationalistic prejudices and arrogance made him feel safe enough to do so. But when he has on an American war criminal such as Kissinger or Madeleine Albright, or a pseudo-intellectual like Thomas Friedman, Rose is not one to challenge abuses of power or delusional points of view. I find PBS in general is about as narrow as the corporate media dominating this country. The "dynamic range" of the solutions to many of our most pressing problems is wide, and yet the usual fare on PBS is to narrow the debate to the Republicrats who, of course, will never make the necessary changes to move our nation forward into the 21st century. To my knowledge, PBS has never aired discussions or points of view from people like Noam Chomsky, Naomi Klein and the late Howard Zinn. These people are (were) smart, reasonable people with unpopular, but serious and credible, points of view--too intelligent and too progressive for PBS. So I pretty much don't even turn on the TV anymore, as it a complete waste of my time.
JG
Here's Chomsky talking about his 2.5 minutes on NPR and the hoops he was made to jump through to make sure he wouldn't pull a fast one on the guardians of public thought:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXh1_ubCQAI
Thanks for that link. That explains a lot. Personally I turned off NPR when they blacklisted Scott Ritter- Chief US Weapons Inspector on the UN team who directly refuted Bush/Powell/Cheney/Rumsfield on claims of WMD's. Thought that would've been the guy you'd want to interview before heading off to war... the one who actually conducted the searches. I guess I was wrong.
PBS is of the zionists, for the zionists, and by the zionists.
they interview each other, praise each other, adore each other, promote each other, defend each other, quote each other, pay each other, marry each other, buy from each other, sell to each other, and they do you know what as well.
Public Bullshit Station.
television?
no, thinks...
I cancelled my subscription to PBS after their coverage of the FIRST Gulf War, when they earned the name Pentagon Broadcasting System. (Their coverage of the Exon Valdez oil spill, like that of the Gulf spill, made Petroleum Broadcast System an equally apt moniker.) Since then, I've directed my funds to Pacifica Radio, specifically KPFA in Berkeley, CA, or KPFA.org online. They still have real news, like the Bill Moyers' Journal, which I never missed when it was on. (I sure do miss it now.)
There's still great journalism happening out there: Amy Goodman, Robert Fisk, Riz Khan, Jim Hightower. Many of those practicing it are on this website.
Bless Bill Moyers for his decades of the kind of journalism without which no real democracy is possible.
Persevere.
Bill Moyers' documentary film on the first Gulf War was devastating. But, as I recall, PBS broadcast it.
Sorry, I didn't read the article. Television is fantasy and that includes the Propaganda Broadcasting Syndrome. I'll wait for the movie.
Bravo FAIR. This is why you'll always outflank Media Matters. You go to where there's still a liberal glow.
As your report makes crystal clear, there's nothing public about public broadcasting -- and that's the fault of legislators who starved the beast of revenue from the start.
There are alternatives though. That's the good news. Personally, I don't go a day without watching GRITtv with Laura Flanders on Free Speech TV or online (GRITtv.org.) GRITtv not only features real diversity but shows good work that other independent media are doing. Nice.
PBS -- isn't that the same network that let Bechtel pay for six hours of airtime extolling the virtues of Bechtel CEO George P Shultz? That's public broadcasting in a nutshell.
I think PBS does a remarkable job of recognizing its target audience.
STOP MEDIA CONTROL! It sends our children to war to enrich war profiteers; it brought teabaggers to the forefront of American politics, and now, they are threatening to take over the government...
MEDIA CONTROL is the single greatest danger to our country. 25% of Americans say they watch Fox "News" REGULARLY. Add this to the myriad right-wingnut channels and radio stations out there, plus all our major newspapers, magazines, etc... all the work of MEDIA CONTROL.
MEDIA CONTROL and America cannot co-exist.
PBS is a sad story in american journalism. I can remember watching it in the 70's and 80's as "educational TV", which it tried to be. This led to a slightly liberal perspective, which of course threatened republicans, who began a long campaign to undermine the station through the usual propaganda and budget cuts. It was inexorable and expected, but eventually PBS's mission and budget were undermined, and the corporate "sponsors" quickly moved in. The station gradually changed from one serving regular people to one aimed more at the rich. It is quite amazing to compare shows such as "Washington Week in Review" from those in the 80's to those today. Today's are simply propaganda.
PBS is no longer a "news station". The "News Hour" has one advantage in that it tries to do some international coverage, but when it comes to local politics it is biased. The coverage (which is limited to 4 or 5 topics each night, are highly selected, and although they claim to greater "depth" than other stations, the depth is simply the usual "he said/she said" form of obfuscation. I can remember several years ago (around 2007) Judy Woodruff set up a "panel of regular people" to discuss the efficacy of the Iraq War, with the selected panel consisting of 10 republicans and 2 democrats. You can imagine the outcome. Also, there seems to be a continuous parade of administration officials, given free reign, I guess to make sure we understand the administration's position.
On the other hand, Bill Moyer's was a treasure.
For an excellent example of how bad the situation is at PBS and the other networks, scroll down to the August 4, 2010 Commentary at http://ofthisandthat.org/Commentary3.html
jsg:
Howard Zinn was on Moyers' show last year. As for Chomsky, I recall seeing him on Charlie Rose once in 2003, and noticed that "ass-kisser to power" Rose really gave Noam a hard time. I have disliked Rose ever since. But Moyers, ah, I miss Moyers.
My God, talk about beating a dead horse! Anyone who doesn't know that PBS has been coopted and screwed for the past twenty years must be tone deaf to politics. Don't give those yuppy bums a dime, it's been run by corporate money for decades.
Tony Vodvarka
I stopped watching PBS years ago. I can't believe there are still some people who think they're sophisticated or intelligent because they get their news from this craven and crappy network. My name for the "News Hour" is the "Jim Lehrer Suck Up to Power Hour."
david wessel and right wing supply side economic whore who works for ruppert murdoch at the wall street journal is their regular "economic specialist"
william mazzarro who makes 700,000 dollars a year as head of whyy philadelphia which produces some of the least original programming of all the outlets
he makes sure that they are constantly having on air fundraisers
at least one who week or two fundraiser is needed just to pay his personal salary and benefits
sorry marrazzo