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Trusting the Scorpion: BP, the Legacy of Republican Hypocrisy and Democratic Cowardice
The progressives are up in arms over the oil spill. Like a scene from Frankenstein, the good citizens are storming the hydrocarbon castle
with torches ablaze, and pitchforks held high.
Some demand stricter regulations, some a wiser energy policy, but they're all focused on tarring BP with this heinous crime against nature. Especially now that Obama is starting to get some blame. An inordinate amount of energy is being spent on how we can use this event to "message," with the emphasis here on assigning the blame to BP.
It would be nice to get stricter regulations; certainly a wiser energy policy would be good. But focusing on blaming BP is missing the point. Of course they cut corners; of course they're sleazy. It's what they do.
But they can do it only because we let them. The whole thing is reminiscent of the fable about the scorpion and the frog. If you've forgotten, it goes like this:
A scorpion asks a frog to carry him across a river. The frog, afraid of being stung, refuses at first, but when the scorpion points out that if it were to sting the frog, the frog would sink and the scorpion would drown as well, he relents. Yet when they reach the middle of the river, the scorpion stings him. As they are sinking, the frog asks why, and the scorpion explains, "I'm a scorpion; it's what we do."
The hydrocarbon castle we would storm is but one building in a vast city as dark as Mordor.
That's why focusing on blaming BP, even in hopes of getting a saner energy policy, is such a waste - it's like worrying about a case of the sniffles (albeit a very bad case) when you've got end stage cancer. Was Exxon - the mot profitable company in history last year -- not blamed for the "Exxon-Valdez?" Did it change anything?
Here's the grim reality: the oil spill is merely a symptom of a much deeper problem, one that is our fault, because for the last 30 years we've been trusting the scorpion.
The fact is, Reagan had it backwards. Government, it turns out, is often the solution and unconstrained private industry the problem. Many of us knew this, but few have had the courage to stand up to Reagan's dangerous, but popular, fantasy, then or now.
Indeed, when the history of the last three decades is written, it will be a story of epic hypocrisy on the part of Republicans, enabled by abject cowardice on the part of Democrats, with consequences that created a legacy far more tragic and irreversible than even this horrendous oil spill.
There may have been a few conservative ideologues who actually believed the small government, magic market mantras spouted by the likes of Reagan, Grover Norquist (I simply want to rduce [government] to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub) William Kristol and assorted industry-funded think tanks, but they were few and far between.
The real reason this philosophy spread was because it was politically expedient, it was backed and funded by powerful interests who made campaign contributions, and few had the courage or conviction required to confront a fantasy that told people they didn't have to pay for the services they demanded.
Across our entire economy and society we are now reaping the harvest of that hypocrisy, and the fruits of that cowardice.
To any remaining acolytes of Reaganism, the track record stands in stark rebuke.
The evidence mounts every day. The BP oil spill, yes. But also The Big Branch coal mining disaster; the sub-prime disaster; the AIG and various other Wall Street disasters; the growing income disparity between the rich and the rest of us; a global thermostat set on self-destruct; a globalized economy as volatile as a vial of nitro-glycerin - everywhere you look, you see more proof that the conservative mantra of small government and uber-free markets has completely failed.
If one examines the record, it's pretty clear that Republicans and conservatives (effectively the same thing) never really cared much about small government. In fact, government grew rapidly under Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II. The only time since Carter that government growth subsided was under Clinton.
Doubt that? Here's the numbers.
If you rank all Presidents since Nixon by the number of government employees per 1000 citizens, here's what you'll find: Reagan tops the list with the most, and Bush II is next. Clinton, on the other hand, had the smallest government by number of employees. The story is much the same for deficits: Reagan increased the federal deficit as a per cent of GDP by 10%, Bush I by 13%, and Bush II by an incredible 20%. In contrast, Clinton lowered it by 10%.
Of course there are lots of ways to slice and dice the statistics, but any honest look at the numbers comes up with the same conclusion - Reagan, Bush I and Bush II talked about small government but presided over dramatic growth in the size of government, while Clinton actually made progress in reducing the size of government.
And rather than having the courage to actually cut popular services, Republicans cut taxes and raised deficits to continue providing them, while making it virtually inevitable that someone, someday would have to shrink government - hopefully enough to drown it in the bathtub. Ironically, Democrats - only slightly more interested in delivering good government than amassing power than Republicans are - did most of whatever spending cuts did happen.
So, if small government wasn't really the goal for conservatives, what was?
Simple: weak government. Government that couldn't constrain the vaunted private sector - the font of all good things according to conservatives' public pronouncements - the font of campaign contributions in reality as Paul Krugman pointed out in a recent column, and Thomas Frank noted in What's the Matter with Kansas?.
And while Clinton made real progress in constraining government growth, he signed onto the Conservative notion of eviscerating government. It was Clinton's economic team, after all, which led the charge to rescind the Glass Steagall Act - the jewel in the crown of financial deregulation, and the source of much of our misery now. It was Clinton who ended welfare and proclaimed the era of big government to be over.
It wasn't just Clinton. Democrats quickly became complicit in this epic hypocrisy. They formed the DLC and went after corporate campaign contributions, they triangulated, they became split-the-difference Democrats, adopting much of the conservative playbook, and legitimizing more of it.
Aside from the obvious ethical and moral issues, the problem with this strategy is that when the policy, philosophy or system fails, the triangulator owns a big share of the catastrophes that failure creates.
For example, back to the BP oil disaster. Just weeks before it occurred, in a classic triangulation, Obama announced that he supported off-shore drilling. Because he failed to take a stand then, he couldn't avoid taking some of the blame for the spill. Had he made Republican deregulation an issue and opposed offshore drilling rather than cratering to the drill-baby-drill crazies - had he stood on principle - he wouldn't be in a defensive position, trying to pass off blame and criticism to BP. Rather he would have made deregulation the issue, and he'd be leading a popular charge against a broken regulatory system and a failed political philosophy, putting conservatives in a defensive position.
That's right, because of political cowardice and a too-clever-by-a-half strategy, the Obama administration is fending off blame for something Republicans, conservatives, and the drill-baby-drill crowd fought to put in place.
And this is just one example of a dynamic that has dominated politics since Reagan.
You can't confront Wall Street when you've set up Goldman Sachs South in the US Treasury and the White House, stocking it with the very folks who created the problem.
You can't confront Health Care crazies when you've made back room deals with big Pharma, and preemptively ceded the victory to private industry.
You can't confront the collapse of the educational system, if you've advocated tax cuts. Look at California, which was at the vanguard of the tax cutting frenzy. Their educational system went from number 1 in the country when Reagan took over to number 47, now.
You can't get out of illegitimate and ill-advised wars when you've given them legitimacy. Come on. Does anyone really believe the US has a strategic stake in Afghanistan? And even if you did, does anyone believe that occupying the hapless country with conventional military forces is the way to deal with it? Let's face it, we doubled down on this war because Democrats thought it would be the best way to inoculate themselves against the dreaded "soft on defense" epithet.
In fact, Democrats have been so ready to run from name calling it's as if they're wearing track shoes and poised in starting blocks, the better to sprint from their convictions at the first whiff of a meanie.
They've been so eager for power, that they stopped thinking about why the want it - it became an end, not a means.
If we'd been willing to stand on principle for the last three decades, we might have lost a few elections, but at least the debate would be framed, the battle lines clear.
And when the inevitable failures from the conservative hypocrisy came, Tea-partiers might have been pouring into the streets demanding that the rich pay their fair share of taxes and the corporations quit exploiting humanity and the planet so that a few CEOs might buy an extra 25,000 square foot vacation home in Barbados. Indeed, they might even be demanding that government fulfill its role as guarantor of a civil society.
Now, instead, no one believes government has a role.
Bottom line: we're not having the debate this country so desperately needs to have because for decades, we've run from that debate, and to do so now would be to expose the full depth of that cowardice.
That's why watching liberals and progressives falling all over themselves trying to figure out how to fix the blame on BP is such a tragedy. Even if they succeed the root cause of the disaster remains, and far more serious issues go unaddressed.
We are now fording difficult passages - as dangerous as any this country has ever faced - and until we confront the larger conservative failure, we will do so with the scorpion on our collective back.
The countless failures of Reaganism are laid out like stepping stones across this broad river we must ford.
We can see, on the other side, shimmering in the distance, the promised land - a land in which citizens run government, not corporations; in which the wealth of our collective endeavors is shared among us all, not ceded to the top 1%; a land in which we treat nature with the care and reverence our very survival demands, not as a spare parts shed and waste pile; a land in which government is the way we come together to meet the great challenges of the 21st Century, not a punch line to a cynical and manipulative speech given by corporate lackeys posing as politicians.
The choice is clear. We could treat each of the national disasters facing us as discreet entities, in which case we attempt to swim the river with the scorpion on our back. Or with a little courage and a little integrity, we could confront them as symptoms of the larger failures of conservatism that they are, in which case we simply step across the stones before us to reach the other side.
We have no choice. Conservatism's failure is complete, the consequences of not confronting that failure too dear. The time is now; cowardice is no longer an option. All we lack is a leader with the courage to take the first step.
Mr. Obama, will you be that leader?



131 Comments so far
Show AllObama a progressive and courageous leader? Not likely!
NO! I'm a free market kind of guy. My best friends are savvy businessmen. Health insurance companies deserve federal funding. Legalizing marijuana is silly. Let's drink beer with racist cops. Afghanistan is vital to our national security. Ad nauseum Ad nausem Ad nauseum
Hey, stop stealing the top-notch troll thunder! ;)
I have not heard many progressive commentators speak to the obvious culprit in this environmental crisis which is the massive bipartisan corruption that dominates the american political system at every level. Appointing another stupid commission that will completely avoid this corruption is a worthless diversion.
Corruption doesn't DOMINATE the system. It IS the system.
Nobody paying any attention expects Obama to be "that leader." It would require a shift in political attitude too strenuous to bear, for one who came to power precisely because he knew how to kowtow before real power. Big Oil, Big Insurance, Big Pharma, Big Military--these are Obama's owners and operators. Without them pulling his strings, he's just another marionette idling on the shelf. And so is 99% of the rest of his worthless party.
But Atcheson is right about our collective failure to have any real debate over how power is now distributed, what government is supposed to do, and why it has all been ceded to corporations, mainly because of Democratic cowardice and full complicity with the Republican agenda of drowning government in a bathtub. Obama is enfeebled before the commanding power of BP and its twisted sisters of Big Oil. He'll make a few impressive sounding noises tomorrow in New Orleans, shake his executive finger at BP, and when the "top kill" strategy fails he'll go back into hiding, totally impotent to enforce any real pain on BP. It's his Katrina, only worse, and in the end he won't do any more about it than Bush did after the hurricane. Hey, shit happens!
None of these assholes are going to begin a serious debate about the root causes of any of these disasters, since that would mean a debate about capitalism as it really functions, not the texbook Friedmanite theories about what a glorious system it should be. We're now a dysfunctional, failed state, thanks to our worship of capitalism. Obama is as religious about the Big Lie of capitalism as any of his predecessors. His weakness is testimony enough.
"None of these assholes are going to begin a serious debate about the root causes of any of these disasters, since that would mean a debate about capitalism." –(Ephraim)
–Most certainly.
There can be no debate in America about war or capitalism. It is ludicrous to even believe so.
Even if there could be a 'debate' that would necessarily assume there are options to be 'resolved' or ameliorated through debate. That is a mistake. The enemy sees no options other than their diktats which will imposed either by subterfuge or by the usual brutality. Nothing will be negotiated, when even the appearance of negotiation can be dispensed with.
They have no intention to debate anything. Nor do they really have to. The toxic emanations from American elections or congressional proceedings are theatrical stage effects and hardly qualify as 'debates.'
There really are no options. But there are enemies.
"The path of total police control over all human activities and the path of unlimited free creation are one...We are necessarily on the same path as our enemies–most often preceding them–but we must be there without any confusion, as enemies. The best will win"
–Situationist International, from "Now, The S.I."
–(Vashkar)
If the root cause of these disasters is capitalism, what is the cause of capitalism? Shouldn't we be paying attention to that?
This is a well-written article, clearly presenting facts and drawing the right conclusions.
That's why I was so surprised at the question at the end, to which we all know the answer.
As I said in the response to someone yesterday, I wouldn't be too hard on Obama for cowardice. He came out of the Chicago machine, as crooked a political operation as you'll find this side of Louisiana. If he were to decide to defy his handlers and go over the heads of the government and talk directly to the people (which he, theoretically could do, being the best public speaker elected to office in a long time), his presidency would go the way of Nixon, Carter, Clinton or JFK.
The president is like the host of a game show. He's the public face of government and pretty much do what the System tells him he can do.
It also points out the vast and contradictory difference between a great candidate and a great administrator.
Sioux Rose
PARANOID: Solid analysis. Given what "The Chicago School" has done to a great many nations through its own operations of fiscal shock and awe, added to the catastrophic impact of the deception rendered by this "M.C." it almost makes me want to send Tom Delay and his pesticide machine in there (Chicago) to clean house.
In a nation that loves celebrity, presenting B-actors like Arnold and Ronald to high offices, a game show host is about right when it comes to the "American Idol" sensibility. After all, the prez is really just auditioning these days to win the title of CEO for "Brand U.S.A."
I believe that Obama isn't a progressive and courageous leader, still, leaving Dick Cheney aside, most people in the world are a combination of good and bad, decent and craven. I think the idea is to appeal to the image someone has of themselves that's on the good side and hope that they decide they want that image to be true. Showing them a way in which they can make it true might have a positive effect.
This might not be the most effective tactic, or even a slightly effective tactic, but if this is what the author wants to try, then let him. We can't afford to neglect any tactic. On the other hand, this is certainly not enough and no one should use the flattery tactic as an excuse for inaction in other ways.
"We can't afford to neglect any tactic."
Fine, go ahead. Let me know how it shakes-out.
Hello 4thefuture,
If you want to appeal to someone's good side so that they will see the light, try starting with your neighbor or your fellow worker/student/parishioner. If we can bring enough people into awareness and solidarity, we can either convince the leaders, or better still, replace them with one of our own. But if we don't know how to create solidarity, all of our principles and declamations will (continue to) go for nothing.
From the article:
"Indeed, when the history of the last three decades is written, it will be a story of epic hypocrisy on the part of Republicans, enabled by abject cowardice on the part of Democrats, with consequences that created a legacy far more tragic and irreversible than even this horrendous oil spill."
Once again, the silly "Democrats are cowards" myth is being promoted. The underlying assumption is that Democratic politicians want all the things you and I want - universal access to health care, environmental protection, etc. - but are simply to "cowardly" to push for what they "really" believe in.
Here's a simpler theory that doesn't require mind-reading assumptions about the "true" beliefs of Democratic politicians: Judge them by their actions. If Obama pushes for a health insurance "reform" whose main effect is to further enrich and empower for-profit insurers, then maybe richer and more powerful for-profit insurers is what he wants? If the President promotes an offshore drilling "moratorium" that isn't a moratorium at all - 19 environmental waivers for Gulf drilling projects and at least 17 drilling permits issued since the Deepwater Horizon explosion on April 20 - then maybe he's actually in favor of offshore drilling?
I know, it's more comforting to think of Democratic "leaders" as fundamentally good people who simply lack the spine to stand up the their Republican counterparts, but one doesn't become President of the United States at age 48 by being weak-willed (any more than you get to be Senate Majority leader or Speaker of the House by being easily pushed around.) Democrats are plenty tough in promoting their own interests, so maybe their interests aren't yours or mine?
The Democratic Party has had years of history and practice at it. With the Republicans, we would know it right in front of us.
"Once again, the silly "Democrats are cowards" myth is being promoted." Bingo! This transparent fairy tale is the subtext for half the "analyses" I read on the net. It's rewarding to see you caught it right away. Follow the money!
Atcheson sez: "(Democrats have) been so eager for power, that they stopped thinking about why the want it - it became an end, not a means.
***
In other words, they became Republicans.
Sioux Rose
STEVE B: Well said. I see what you see.
SteveB, very well stated. I am seriously tired of hearing Democratic apologists asking Obama to step up (it is against his interests to do so), or excusing the Democratic politicians' behavior by calling them cowardly when their problem is simply trying to talk in one direction and not get caught walking in the opposite direction.
Obama's latest lie about the govt being in charge all along surely will be noticed by anyone paying attention - and I believe more people are doing so now. The next poll numbers should tell us how well that one worked.
My question is, are the people writing this swill brain dead or just shills?
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
They're CLASS ACT OPPORTUNISTS. That's all.
I conclude from all this that we should vote Republican.
Voting Republican instead of third party DOUBLES our vote. If you want to make a protest vote, why not make two instead of one? It only makes sense mathematically. Imagine that all of Nader's votes went to Bush in 2000. They blamed us anyway so if we had actually voted for Bush and thereby put him over the top, consider the strength of the message.
Voting Republican could even have the effect of pushing the Republican party to the left ever so slightly, which would in turn force the Democrats to the left. Clearly voting Democrat means they will take the progressive vote for granted especially in a world where they already have a clear majority. However, this is a minor consideration compared to doubling our vote, making the system own up to its dishonesty, and making the hypocrisy plainer.
Of course it's a cynical vote inasmuch as it serves to tear down instead of build up, but in our corrupt system it seems the logical course for activists.
I'm sort of just floating this as a trial balloon but if you really think as I do that Democrats are in league with Republicans and that third parties do not have a chance because the system is rigged, then if you vote at all it should be for Republicans, no?
I would really only vote Republican if I could convince a million other people to do it too.
Agree with what you say SteveB. The notion that the Democratic Party stands for working people is pure nostalgia. It is controlled by corporatists who do a more professional job than Republicans in skillfully promoting corporate interests while managing popular perceptions.
There are some Dem Congresspeople who still maintain some ties with their constituencies. They are so outnumbered and outplayed by the pro (NAFTA, militarist, oil, agra, pharma, banking) crowd that they are currently wasting their time. I believe that they should secede and form an independent progressive party.
Joe
Hi Joe,
We already have the Greens, and in California and a few other states we have the Peace and Freedom Party. In New York there is the Working Families Party. All good leftists.
Why haven't they caught on? Because in the absence of corporate money and media, you have to have a vigorous and growing social movement first, BEFORE you can have a significant party. With the exception of a few politicos, people don't live in parties. They live in jobs, schools, neighborhoods and congregations. If you want to make real change, that's where you have to start.
It's all been a scam, hasn't it? We are paying dearly as the author of the article recognizes.
But...
"Had he [Obama] made Republican deregulation an issue and opposed offshore drilling rather than cratering (sic) to the drill-baby-drill crazies - had he stood on principle - he wouldn't be in a defensive position, trying to pass off blame and criticism to BP."
Principle? Where is the principle? Here?...no....here...uh uh...let's see, under here...nope. Ha ha.
Arry May, you're very funny!
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
Just plain Arry. The month is May.
Thanks. I don't do morose.
I would like to remind the author that the Democrats are not cowards. They are "bold" but for the wrong interests. They were "bold" enough to force bailout packages for Wall $treet even when it did not pass the first time and they were pretty quick in 2008. They were "bold" enough to armtwist members of their own party to go along with the Republicans on on war spending bill after another. Last year, they copied Dubya's and the GOP's stealthy tactics to pass a "stimulus" bill which almost mirrors Dubya's tax cutting for the already well to do. Even the supposedly "progressive" Dennis Kucinich was "bold" enough to get just enough Democrats in the House to pass this 2700 page Big Insurance/Pharma bill and the same for Democrats in the Senate. Obama and the Democrats were "bold" enough to continue war spending. As for Obama himself, he "boldly" lionizes Ronnie Raygun while trashing the 1960s and 70s. As someone else pointed out, Civil Rights would never have passed if Obama had been president in the 1960s. There is more but this alone makes me already feel jealous that we have the worst form of shameless misrepresentation compared to most other nations.
"Dennis Kucinich was "bold" enough to get just enough Democrats in the House to pass this 2700 page Big Insurance/Pharma bill"
To be accurate, if Kucinich voted no, the bill would have still passed. Kucinich was helpless to influence the outcome of the health care bill.
By himself, that is correct but he did whip up enough to tip the scale. Kucinich was helpless to do what was right but helpFULL to do the wrong thing and cross the line. I still haven't forgotten and I don't forgive him from March. He made a heehaw out of himself just like the rest of the party. The Democratic Party should be renamed to the HEEHAW Party !
Kucinih "whipped up" no support for the health care bill! (This miust be a new record for rapid-historical revisionism) He was intending to vote no until the Air-Force One ride juat a few days before the vote.
at any rate, what are you doing to support single-payer in your home state?
Kucinich is a huge Democratic fraud, please don't divert from this fact. Even if his vote didn't count, his caving to Pres. Obaminable showed Kucinich's true colors.
While this is an indisputable truism, one must go further to the point where the discourse must be purged entirely of all references to Democrats. Not acknowledging their existence is the first step to the point where they will not exist. Continuing to lambaste them with opprobrium or to lionize them as saviors, still signifies that they matter– and not so secretly– that they have not been entirely abandoned.
They must no longer even be 'named.'
That is the first step to a complete severing.
This is why the postings of some like SiouxRose continue to matter. Despite (or because) of her repertoire of seemingly non-political arcana, she represents a severing into visionary transcendence, which sees little need for the continual 'naming' of the atrophied world of false and petrified champions.
This is perhaps even true of any other party that may emerge out of modern American society as it presently exists. This includes all the "Green" and Naderite expressions which derive from the system they supposedly criticize. It no longer has much efficacy, morally and certainly politically, to say they are "the only game in town." There lies the way of fools.
What is exceedingly and continuously irksome–not to mention tedious– among many commentators on this site is that even when issuing accurate and insightful criticisms–some of them radical in content and spirit–they still remain in thrall to and are referenced by the existing paradigm of a spent and toxic system that cannot be reformed.
The truth be told, these well meaning souls are simply waiting to 'vote' (ridiculously) for a new and better 'champion' so they can restart the endless whirlybird dance of ineffectual gibberish once again. This begins to function more as a 'sport' or a game in a playpen, if not some kind of 'business' venture. The game of new heroes and new villains, puppets of the juvenile imagination of non-politics and little else.
One when hears the names of Kucinich and/or Nader, or reads wishful admonishments to the perfidy of the Democratic Party– one feels as if one is putting on wizened old leather shoes encrusted in mould, that have been exhumed from the crypt.
Barely concealed behind the pitiful lionization of purported champions like Dennis Kucinich or Ralph Nader is an a priori (subliminal) capitulation to the tenants and dictates of the unconscionable catastrophe of the American death machine and its operational tropes.
Obama is a fascist, a war criminal and an unrepentant state terrorist; whoever follows him will be same or worse, and so it goes, ad infinitum. That he agrees to 'limits' on offshore oil drilling does not mitigate that reality. Transparency is absolute.
Get over them. Both Kucinich and Nader. Consign them to scrap heap of history, for everything is known about them. Any utility they have is purely, in the end, counterrevolutionary in spirit and effect. And so is believing they still, somehow, matter.
Let us near no more of them. All the verdicts are in. All is transparent. Refine the contempt, as with Obama, to the point when one knows they cannot and must not exist.
They are false avatars. There must be no avatars. (Kim)
"Barely concealed behind the pitiful lionization of purported champions like Dennis Kucinich or Ralph Nader is an a priori (subliminal) capitulation to the tenants and dictates of the unconscionable catastrophe of the American death machine and its operational tropes."
I could see what you mean on Kucinich but I don't understand why you are including Nader. After what Kucinich did on health care (thank you Stanley1979 for the link), I don't believe that he belongs to the same category as Nader.
As to the rest of your post, are you saying that voting doesn't matter whatsoever? I always believe that if people would actually vote with their hearts and minds instead of getting judging by corporate polling and infatuations that we would have a better representation and system. I also don't believe in party labels or ideological labels for that matter.
"As to the rest of your post, are you saying that voting doesn't matter whatsoever?"
–(Jennifer Beddingfield)
For the most part, yes.
Living in California we continue to vote on local civic and state ballot initiatives to forestall some truly hideous things from happening. But we no longer vote for any candidates whatsoever. Voting in America is nothing more than an anachronistic shibboleth.
"I always believe that if people would actually vote with their hearts and minds instead of getting judging by corporate polling and infatuations that we would have a better representation and system." –(JenniferBeddingfield)
–Here is where we part company. The age of representational government is over in America and has been for a long time.
As our friend Jill Bains,' who used to post here, never tired of saying: Even if 90% of Americans voted to end imperial fascist wars, they would still continue unabated.
It would be nice to live in a world where we could believe "hearts and minds" make a difference. But that world does not exist. It certainly does not exist when in comes to voting in America. The Obama debacle furnishes ample evidence for that. We understand how difficult it is for good people to abandon faith in a broken system.
The French Philosopher Alain Badiou's radical (yet commonsensical) intervention, "On Parliamentary Democracy: The French Presidential Elections of 2002," in his book "Polemics," Verso Books, 2002, Chapter 4) addresses the situation and issue of 'voting' and 'not voting' head on.
He takes no prisoners.
-(Kim Nguyen)
Kim, thank you clarifying. I don't count on just national elections and I pay close attention to ballot initiatives. In fact, we have a big one in MO on Aug 2 to allow MO voters the right to decide whether to amend the state law to deny federal government the authority to penalize us for refusing to purchase private health insurance.
http://interact.stltoday.com/blogzone
/political-fix/political-fix/2010/05
/vote-on-federal-health-care-issue-set-for-missouri-ballot-in-august/
Of course, there is no guarantee that even the people's results from ballot initiatives will be honored.
Hello Jennifer,
Please don't feel we evaded your query about Ralph Nader. Neither of us was living in the USA when he ran for higher office.
The purpose of Dennis Kucinich, as we see it, is to provide false hopes, when there are truly none at all. His candidacy, as with Nader's, ends up ratifying the protocols of the system while providing a cover for its fundamental illegitimacy.
I do know that Jill Bains, at one time, did vote for for Ralph Nader and Dennis Kucinich both– probably now believing, against her better judgement. This was probably motivated by her loathing of Hillary Clinton, which was absolute. We're not sure.
The point being here is that even third party candidates are serious and utter non-starters in America and their candidacies become purely 'fantasy' creations of the pure impotency of personality. The system forecloses on them effectively before they even start.
Without a Parliamentary system of representation, the point is truly moot. A rational cynic would say that even with a Parliamentary system the point is STILL moot. The European model is abject proof of this.
Models of Democracy and representative government under Capitalism?
Well, what can one say about that?
Not so curiously, forward looking models of political 'theory' and practice both, are questioning the very tenants of Democracy itself as some privileged absolute.
"...who says that revolutionaries even want to destroy the society of coercion at all."–Otto Muehl,
Kim, what you said of Nader reminds me of a challenging question my mother and uncle asked me after I pointed Nader's site to them. From years of articles Nader wrote, they were concerned that Nader has for years asked Democrats and/or Republicans to listen as well as for us to try to contact them and ask them to listen to us. Their question that I could never ask was "Why is Nader wasting time writing letters to Bush and Obama in hopes that they will listen?" I could never answer that question and that question is hard to shake out of my mind every time I read Nader's articles. I studied Nader and admired him for what he was able to do in the 1960s and 70s. My love for him and my bitter anger with the Democratic Party trying to keep Nader off the ballots along with their attempts to out Republican the Republicans used to make me just want to hate the Republicans and Democrats and love almost any third party. However, after I realized that my love for Nader was because of what he really stood for on the issues not only as a candidate but at heart in addition to his record, I discovered my ability to vote not by party or ideological labels. As for Kucinich, I voted for him in the 2008 primaries but still would have voted Nader anyway in the general election. After Kucinich revealed his true colors on Obamacare when he caved in and worse, I don't even want to think of believing him in anything at this point. Sometimes, I wished Nader could do something to help true independents running for some office who really want to make positive differences regardless of party label or even ideological labels. As I go back and review the archives, I will take another look at what Jill Baines and you posted. Thank you for your thoughtful posts.
Jen, if you want to read a bit more about Nader's support for independents, check out the organization
Free and Equal, working to overturn the onerous rules that deny them ballot access. And if you want to see why it is so hard for independents, check out Therese Amato's book Grand Illusion.
As to why Nader keeps writing to our "Reps", you cannot demonstrate that they are NOT listening until you actually address them, then, when they don't respond, they cannot say "We didn't know"; they no longer have "plausible deniability". I expounded on this in a post on Nader's article on the OTA ...
Aquifer, I don't know how many of us write to our elected officials asking them to listen and consider let alone do the right thing but the only way I can tell is by their actions. Their actions indicate that either too few are demanding real reform or they knowingly ignore us and answer to the elites. I also measure what they generally say and how they say it so I can tell who they give higher priority to.
P.S.: I remember that book "Grand Illusion" and found that book last year when I was arguing against Obama on Alternet (http://www.alternet.org/rights/140493). It was a war against the Obamabots last year. :)
Sioux Rose
VASHKAR: Thank you for validating the importance of considering a wide-angle vision given the complex issues that confront us. Clearly the solutions (and approved upon perspectives) granted by the orthodoxy are not going to do anything to change the paradigm itself. Some in this forum respond to my offering an ancient, yet contemporary prism through which to view the challenges of our times (most of which are rooted in belief systems) quite favorably, while a few become so threatened and/or enraged as to aim extremely vile characterizations my way. At least two have resorted to outright lies, a sort of vandalism. Heresy is never an easy position to take, but my personal commitment to Truth would have it no other way. I value your opinion because it radiates erudition. Thank you for the acknowledgement.
"Kucinih "whipped up" no support for the health care bill!"
Oh yes he did and here is the proof:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03
/from-progressive-holdout-to-whipping-health-
care----how-dennis-kucinich-is-helping-dems.php?ref=fpb
"at any rate, what are you doing to support single-payer in your home state?"
What the hell am I supposed to do when Obamacare doesn't allow states to pass single payer health care? That job belongs to the state politicians and right now, we don't have enough state legislators who support it let alone dedicated to making such ideas pass.
Sioux Rose
JB: Good work.
I think it all really does come down to "the money," and since big money favors policies that lend it profit without regulation, and big money finances the majority of the congressional campaigns, the so-called leaders recognize that their allegiance goes to those that sponsored them, NOT what's best for American citizens. This helps to explain why both parties kow-tow to "special interests." There's not much mystery to it at all. That's why some in this forum bring up the wisdom of focusing on reforming congress and/or pushing real campaign finance reform. The R & D election spectacles are mostly provided in the style of the old Roman Arena crossed with the modern Worldwide Wrestling federation style moves. The intensity of THE SHOW convinces enough of the electorate that there really are differences between the two parties, that it makes sense to vote, that democracy is happening. Bernays would be proud.
Sioux, I would agree with you on the money and its influence here in the US but I think that there is more. As I continue to read through the archives, I came across my uncle's discussion on confidence and I think I could relate that to US elections vs elsewhere. I believe that for pols, the trick is a combination of money and confidence that their base voters will blindly accept them.
In Europe, people get together and are more sensitive about the way their leaders act. It isn't perfect there either but it is much better than the US for now. I was given an interesting discussion on how anyone who wants to use money to gain a foothold on politics or any business is often forced to be very careful lest they look worse the more they spend. Voters there are generally remarkable in their sensitivity. The way elections get presented can get funny there too but not to the point of circus shows. I hope that despite the economic turbulence throughout Europe and possibly Africa and Asia that people will stay sensitive enough to keep the big spenders from sliding into the same corrupt practices as the USA to the point of disaster capitalism and turning elections into circus shows.
I am already worried that this country will get worse by looking at the mess in Europe and learning the wrong lessons of blaming socialism and stupidly thinking that disaster capitalism will save them as if it saved us. Yesterday's discussion with Prometheus on individualist vs collectivism didn't give me a good feeling either. If you get a chance to read it under Mark Weisbrot's article on "Eurozone", you will see what I mean. He can be right on some things but his thinking that they should still follow the US and his falling for the fallacy on Republicans being the lesser of the evils doesn't give me a good feeling about this year's elections and 2012.
Oh, Jen, I hope you're right that Europeans are paying closer attention, SOMEONE'S got to .......
Waiting for Obummer to give a damn about the 99% of the poulation I belong to makes about as much sense as waiting for my dog to prepare dinner for us tonight. I thought that Dumbya had opened my eye to reality, but I only knew half of the story. Thanx for the education Barry.
"We can see, on the other side, shimmering in the distance, the promised land..."
No...what you see on the other side, shimmering in the distance is oily sheen.
This guy has been drinking waaaaayyyy too much kool-aid.
Correct.
"Mr. Obama, will you be that leader?" is the kind of question one asks in a campaign, not a year and a half into an administratio.
By now, Obama has answered that question. He is an articulate charismatic politician who took huge amounts of Wall St. and corporate cash and who will lead us nowhere that we're not at present.
Yup. "Change we can believe in" would be to impeach him, or oust him in a primary in 2012.
Earthian,
Well stated.