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Diary of a Wimpy Health Care Bill
Passage of President Obama's healthcare bill proves that Congress can enact comprehensive social legislation in the face of virulent rightwing opposition. Now that we have an insurance bill, can we move on to healthcare reform?
As an organization of registered nurses, we have an obligation to provide an honest assessment, as nurses must do every hour of every day. The legislation fails to deliver on the promise of a single standard of excellence in care for all and instead makes piecemeal adjustments to the current privatized, for-profit healthcare behemoth.
When all the boasts fade, comparing the bill to Social Security and Medicare, probably intended to mollify liberal supporters following repeated concessions to the healthcare industry and conservative Democrats, a sobering reality will probably set in.
What the bill does provide
-Expansion of government-funded Medicaid to cover 16 million additional low income people, though the program remains significantly under funded. This limits access to its enrollees as its reimbursement rates are lower than either Medicare or private insurance, with the result some providers find it impossible to participate. Though the federal government will provide additional subsidies to states, those expire in 2016, leaving the program a top target to budget cutting governors and legislatures.
-Increased funding for community health centers, thanks to an amendment by Sen. Bernie Sanders, that will open their doors to nearly double their current patient volume.
-Reducing but not eliminating the infamous "donut hole" gap in prescription drug coverage for which Medicare enrollees have to pay the costs fully out of pocket.
-Insurance regulations covering members' dependent children until age 26, and new restrictions on limits on annual and lifetime on lifetime insurance coverage, and exclusion of policies for children with pre-existing conditions.
-Permission for individual states -- though weakened from the version sponsored by Rep. Dennis Kucinich -- to waive some federal regulations to adopt innovative state programs like an expanded Medicare.
All of these reforms could, and should, have been enacted on their own without the poison pills that accompanied them.
Where the bill falls short
-The mandate forcing people without coverage to buy insurance. Coupled with the subsidies for other moderate income working people not eligible for Medicare or Medicaid, the result is a gift worth hundreds of billions of dollars to reward the very insurance industry that created the present crisis through price gouging, care denials, and other abuses.
-Inadequate healthcare cost controls for individuals and families. 1. Insurance premiums will continue to climb. Proponents touted a "robust" public option to keep the insurers "honest," but that proposal was scuttled. After Anthem Blue Cross of California announced 39 percent premium hikes, the administration promised to crack down with a federal rate insurance authority, an idea also dropped from the bill. 2. There is no standard benefits package, only a circumspect reference that benefits should be "comparable to" current employer provided plans. 3. An illusory limit on out-of-pocket medical expenses. But even in the regulated state exchanges, insurers remain in control of what they offer and what will be a covered service. Insurers are likely to design plans to attract healthier customers, and many enrollees will likely find the federal guarantees do not protect them for medical treatments they actually need.
-No meaningful restrictions on claims denials insurers don't want to pay for. Proponents cite a review process on denials, but the "internal review process" remains in the hands of the insurers, and the "external" review will be up to the states, many of which have systems now in place that are dominated by the insurance industry with little enforcement mechanism.
-Significant loopholes in the much touted insurance reforms: 1. Provisions permitting insurers and companies to more than double charges to employees who fail "wellness" programs because they have diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol readings, or other medical conditions. 2. Permitting insurers to sell policies "across state lines", exempting patient protections passed in other states. Insurers will likely set up in the least regulated states in a race to the bottom threatening public protections won by consumers in various states. 3. Allowing insurers to charge three times more based on age plus more for certain conditions, and continue to use marketing techniques to cherry-pick healthier, less costly enrollees. 4. Insurers may continue to rescind policies, drop coverage, for "fraud or intentional misrepresentation" -- the main pretext insurance companies now use.
-Taxing health benefits for the first time. Though modified, the tax on benefits remains, a 40 percent tax on plans whose value exceeds $10,200 for individuals or $27,500 for families. With no real checks on premium hikes, many plans will reach that amount by the start date, 2018, rapidly. The result will be more cost shifting from employers to workers and more people switching to skeletal plans that leave them vulnerable to financial ruin.
-Erosion of women's reproductive rights, with a new executive order from the President enshrining a deal to get the votes of anti-abortion Democrats and a burdensome segregation of funds, that in practice will likely mean few insurers will cover abortion and perhaps other reproductive medical services.
-A windfall for pharmaceutical giants. Through a deal with the White House, the administration blocked provisions to give the government more power to negotiate drug prices and gave the name brand drug makers 12 years of marketing monopoly against competition from generic competition on biologic drugs, including cancer treatments.
Most critically, the bill strengthens the economic and political power of a private insurance-based system based on profit rather than patient need.
As former Labor Secretary Robert Reich wrote after the vote "don't believe anyone who says Obama's healthcare legislation marks a swing of the pendulum back toward the Great Society and the New Deal. Obama's health bill is a very conservative piece of legislation, building on a Republican (a private market approach) rather than a New Deal foundation. The New Deal foundation would have offered Medicare to all Americans or, at the very least, featured a public insurance option."
Unlike Social Security and Medicare which expanded a public safety net, this bill requires people -- in the midst of the mass unemployment and the worse economic downturn since the Great Depression -- to pay thousands of dollars out of pocket to big private companies for a product that may or may not provide health coverage in return.
Too many people will remain uninsured, individual and family healthcare costs will continue to rise largely unabated and private insurers will still be able to deny claims with little recourse for patients.
If, as the President and his supporters insist, the bill is just a start, let's hold them to that promise. Let's see the same resolve and mobilization from legislators and constituency groups who pushed through this bill to go farther, and achieve a permanent, lasting solution to our healthcare crisis with universal, guaranteed healthcare by expanding and improving Medicare to cover everyone.
Leaders of the National Nurses United have raised many of these concerns about the legislation for months. But, sadly, as the healthcare bill moved closer to final passage, the space for genuine debate and critique of the bill's very real limitations was largely squeezed out.
Much of the fault lies with the far right, from the streets to the airwaves to some legislators that steadily escalated from deliberate misrepresentations to fear mongering to racial epithets to hints of threatened violence against bill supporters.
For its part, the administration and its major supporters shut out advocates of more far reaching reform, while vilifying critics on the left.
Both trends are troubling for democracy, as is the pervasive corruption of corporate lobbying that so clearly influenced the language of the bill. Insurers, drug companies, and other corporate lobbyists shattered all records for federal influence peddling and were rewarded with a bill that largely protected their interests, along with a Supreme Court ruling that will allow corporations, including the health care industry, to spend unlimited sums in federal elections.
Rightwing opponents fought as hard to block this legislation as they would have against a Medicare for all plan. As more Americans recognize the bill does not resemble the distortions peddled by the right, and become disappointed by their rising medical bills and ongoing fights with insurers for needed care, there will be new opportunity to press the case for real reform. Next time, let's get it done right.
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Show AllIf you think seniors will sit by while this bill damages them, wait until November and 2012 when they turn up en masse and PUNISH the Democratic Party and burn them to the ground at the polling booth for giving the American people this fraud of a bill.
Yeah, like Bill Clinton said during his presidiency when cutting social spending, passing NAFTA, etc. angering many Democrats "If they don't like it, too bad, what are they going to do, vote Republican?"
Sadly we have no choice in Democracy Inc.
I must say the system works very well for the ruling class, as so many people still believe that there is choice and democratic acccountability.
Virginia and New Jersey in Nov. 2009, and Massachusetts in Feb. 2010 proved that they WILL vote for Republicans, or just sit out the election.
Indeed ray, yet so many people still believe that we have a meaningful "choice", very sad. The revolving door of D/R corporate shills just keeps spinnin'
I heard the bill is going to take away funding for the Medicare Advantage windfall, but what else does it do to weaken Medicare? I notice the donut hole is actually closing, so that will save seniors some money. In the end, if the seniors would only advocate as strongly for their children and grandchildren as they do for themselves we would have Medicare for all. To the extent they can be marginalized by fear tactics that they are going to lose benefits we will not advance very far with reform. Can you imagine the scare tactics if a Medicare for all plan is introduced--"You will never be able to see the doctor with tens of millions of new patients."
While seniors indeed dropped the ball in pushing for expanded medicare (look at how few of them dropped their memebership in AARP, for example) the demographic that dropped the ball more than seniors is college students.
Millions of baby boomers aged 55-64 are delaying or cancelling retirement from their family wage jobs, solely to retain relatively affordable employer-sponsored medical insurance, thereby killing millions of family wage job opportunities for young Americans, mostly college grads. Obamacare increases the number of boomers delaying retirement. Expanding Medicare eligibility would have opened up millions of family wage jobs for college grads (note: only 20% of 2009 college grads landed jobs).
I agree that at least lowering the Medicare age to 55 could help the employment picture for the younger generation. It would be nice if the older folks who created this healthcare mess would clean it up, but I guess that is asking too much.
The donut hole closing won't be enough to save Medicare.
If they wanna bring out their scare tactics, let them bring it on and let's battle them. Passing a bill that kowtows to the insurance companies helps no one but the Republicans and the insurance companies.
-"there will be new opportunity to press the case for real reform. Next time, let's get it done right. "
Yeah, right,...next time. Good luck next time.(Maybe next time the Democrats will "have the votes") ;)
Obama - "Darn!!! Rahm, we have a massive majority, but we don't have the votes!!!"
Rahm - "Curse those right-wing opponents!!!"
Obama - "if only our retarded supporters had pressed the case for real reform!!!"
All you need to do is look at how much additional revenue the drug and insurance industries will get from Obamacare (direct subsidies, unfunded mandates, etc.) and you realize that there will never be a "NEXT TIME" TO GET IT RIGHT.
All of that additional revenue assures that the insurance and drug industries will be able to buy a lot more influence "NEXT TIME" than they were able to buy this time. Notice how much influence they were able to buy this time?
Contact your state attorney general and tell him or her to join the 13 AGs who are testing the constitutionality of the individual mandate. This may be the only way to limit the insurance industry windfall Obama has given them. The outcome of this case will affect way more than health care. If Obama can mandate that you buy a product from a private insurance company he can also mandate that you buy other products from other corporations.
Our legislators' vote on a bill depends only on how much money they can rake in for themselves. They do a discounted cash flow analysis on a Yes vote and on a No vote, to estimate the present worth of all present and future bribes (aka "donations"), graft etc. They choose the option, Yes or No, that yeilds the largest present worth. Effect on reelection prospects is factored in as a risk factor.
It's not about the public good or ideology, or what people want, it's only about rake.
sierra7
This is a good analysis of what the bill does and does not....the biggest part it does not speak the truth to the American people.
And, for the most part most of the American people have been deluded into believing that this two party system has their interests at heart.
As far as any "next time" is concerned, don't hold your breath!
A good piece from someone who is directly involved.
The legislation protects the health profit industry from anti-trust laws. That means we have a monopoly that can arbitrarily raise premiums, fees, co-pays, deductibles etc. at will with no limit. Same with Big Pharma.
This defeats the purpose of reform, we don't have affordable health care. It will still bankrupt huge numbers of people and make the insurance vampires and Big Pharma even richer.
This is even worse than "free market" capitalism, it is protected monopoly capitalism.
Once again, when the smokescreens clear, the USA will be the laughingstock of the indusrtrialized world.
Folks in europe have a term for this, to work or live in "American conditions" is unacceptable.
Sioux Rose
SOCIALIST: Very well said! I can't believe that some in this forum believe the pabulum surrounding this bill. When "they" decided to give BILLIONS to the banks, weren't we told this would ease credit and help to keep homeowners in their homes? What actually happened? When "No Child Left Behind" was rolled out, didn't it tout all kinds of purported benefits to education? Anyone see any remote evidence in support of that contention? U.S. political theater is ALL about PR, i.e. expensive lies, a/k/a public relations... the Bernay's school of social engineering through cues, buzzwords, and the framing of ideas now relayed on a massive scale. We are at a point where to believe anything the elite message conveyers relate is not only naive, it's practically suicidal!
"Passage of President Obama's healthcare bill proves that Congress can enact comprehensive social legislation in the face of virulent rightwing opposition."
Yeah, but for whom did this Congress enact this legislation on behalf of?
What DeMoro is doing is trying to legitimize the act of a corrupt Congress controlled by corporate power passing legislation in the interests of that power in direct opposition to what the people want.
Why?
This is what power does when it reaches this kind of saturation point in society--it corrupts everyone.
A few days ago it was Kucinich and Sanders(at least they have the excuse they're politicians), and now it's DeMoro.
Like those in Congress, DeMoro is serving the interests of the elite by portraying this law as anything but corruption.
That is, in believing DeMoro's premise that the politcal system still works, people will accept the blatent corruption as normal and consider their acceptance of it as being "realistic."
It's not.
What it is is the corruption spreading.
The only "proof" this law and apologists for it like DeMoro provide is evidence of the extent to which our society has been and continues to become increasingly corrupted.
That is, the only proof this piece provides is that things are really bad and they're going to get a whole lot worse.
The title of this should be: DeMoro demoralized: Another one bites the dust.
Including "wimpy" in the title of the article was a very poor word choice.
While the bill is indeed wimpy in terms of delivering affordable health care, it is ROBUST in delivering corporate welfare to the the insurance and drug industries.
At least the article touches upon the unfunded mandates Obamacare dumps on the states (4th paragraph). Few other articles have addressed this huge cost that the Congressional Budegt Office does not include in its cost estimates.
I think it's the premise behind the word choices like "wimpy" "flawed" etc. that's of bigger concern. And that premise is based on accepting the corruption of our current political system as normal instead of rejecting it and all of its manifestations such as for-profit healthcare.
I think if you get too into all the particular problems and details of this bill you can lose sight of that fact and the larger point that at heart it's intended to work WITH the corruptoin and injustice of the current system.
Very good point!
The elite in this country -especially their paid cohorts in Congress- keep us all busy talking about legislation. This very legislation is drafted in a setting maintained by the wealthy elite. People who are highly compensated (over $295k/yr) are not interested in change and will do a lot to keep their cushy positions in the corporate world entrenched against any change.
Also, we have all passed on the opportunity to change things when we are not out on the street protesting.
Also, we could all work at coming up with alternatives or linking up with someone who has a professional capacity to advise on how a better health delivery system would be built.
"As more Americans recognize the bill does not resemble the distortions peddled by the right, and become disappointed by their rising medical bills and ongoing fights with insurers for needed care, they will blame the Democrats and believe the Republican noise machine when it goes into overdrive telling them that everything was just peachy with American healthcare before this bill was passed."
Fixed.
As dysfunctional as US health care currently is, Obamacare will make it worse for most Americans.
Because Obamacare gives insurance and drug compnaies so much additional revenue with which they will successfully lobby to further erode health care quality and increase costs, Obamacare has the potential to get so bad that the current condition may very well appear relatively "peachy" in retrospect.
"Obama's health bill is a very conservative piece of legislation, building on a Republican (approach)" It's great to see that called out.
What I don't get, is why the rabid right fought so hard against this? The best I can guess, and I think it's a good guess, is that they're utter racists and this is their way of expressing their racism.
Good question KJ:
The left/right one-dimensional spectrum is a phony construct of the political/economic ruling classes and their MSM counterparts. Without having a far-right smokescreen, it would have been more difficult to pass this leg. off as "reform" or a step forward.
Crudely put, the good-cop, bad cop show needs the bad cop, so the good cop can look relatively "good". Of course, they are both working for the same masters.
It may seem counter-intuitive, but the extreme Right benefits the right-wing Obama admin. to make them look not so bad. In reality, the status quo would be better than this legislation. That is the Orwellian situation we are faced with.
Just look at how much money Big Pharma and the Insurance Vampires spent on bribing Congress. Money talks, as they say, in more ways than one.
"The left/right one-dimensional spectrum is a phony construct of the political/economic ruling classes and their MSM counterparts."
It's phony because there is no Left--it's Right/Right.
The only "Left" that exists is the fake Left like The Nation Magazine, Moore, The Progressive Magazine, HCAN, DeMoro, Kucinich etc...
You took the words right off my keyboard
Comments about left and right need to be prefaced so the writer clearly indicates the terms are being used to name something relative or which is extremely hazy in concept- anyone's personal philosophy will fail to match a description like liberal or conservative. The terms have changed to where 19th century European Liberals are the scriptural forbears of today's American Conservative Party. I consider myself a Progressive but can't really say that I always find that a good term to describe who I am.
"Comments about left and right need to be prefaced so the writer clearly indicates the terms are being used to name something relative or which is extremely hazy in concept..."
I don't think it's that hazy.
If you're "for" an issue such as singlepayer healthcare and you reject the idea of having for-profit insurance companies in healthcare it is very likely you're on the Left.
If you're "for" an issue such as singlepayer healthcare but you also accept the idea of having for-profit insurance companies in healthcare then you're not.
Pretty clear I'd say.
Maybe with today's fake Left and all what's actually more desired is ambiguity.
socialist sez: "Just look at how much money Big Pharma and the Insurance Vampires spent on bribing Congress."
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One man's "bribe" is another man's "investment". Nothin' personal; it's just business.
Hmmm. I'm not part of the ruling class and I use the Left/Right (Liberal/Conservative) construct all the time because it DOES have meaning. Now the MSM and politicos might USE the construct in illegit ways, but that doesn't mean the construct's bad.
So what I think you're saying is, somebody (Dick Armey, Karl Rove, FOX, Senate Repubs, etc.) is in cahoots with somebody else (MSNBC, James Carville, Reid, Pelosi, etc.) to fake us all out, Left and Right alike, to achieve what we associate with the Right, namely fascism/corporatism. Do I have that right?
After my post above, I am not exaclty sure what you are asking KJ, and I am not being difficult.
I would recommend for further reference: politicalcompass.org, "Manufacturing Consent" (Chomsky and Herman); "Ten Steps to Repair American Democracy" (Steven Hill); "Democracy and its Critics" (Robert Dahl); "Democracy Inc." (Sheldon Wolin); the article "Democracy, a Useful Fiction" (Chris Hedges, posted a few weeks ago on CD); plus the classics from Zinn, Chomsky, C. Johnson et al.
My point was, Left/Right isn't some goofy "construct" cooked up by MSM and the politicos in charge. There is a real difference between the worldviews that we label "Left" and "Right". Now MSM and others might screw with the definitions to confuse people, but the labels are valid.
I've heard about those references...I simply don't have time to check them out ('cause I'm checking out so many others :+) )...but I don't think my two sets of "somebodies" in my earlier post are colluding somehow. Or maybe they are...is that what you're suggesting? For ex, Pelosi/Reid in cahoots with Armey/Boehner ??
I think you missed my point altogether, if you don't have time to check out references, at least read the Hedges article I mentioned, posted on CD, and look at www.politicalcompass.org, it does not take that much time.
Sioux Rose
KANE: Rich M, Socialist and others have presented lucid "cases" in this forum that amply demonstrate the degree to which the policy positions of both political parties depart insubstantially from one another on ALL key issues. This health care debacle is the newest. One cover currently in vogue makes use of the banner of "bipartisanship" as Obama leans increasingly right. 2000-plus lobbyists shell out campaign funds and expect favoritism as quid pro quo. The needs of "the people" get lost. And THAT is the point. It's not necessarily that specific agents meet in backrooms to make deals (although I would not rule that out); but rather, both party teams understand who their paymasters are and how to oblige them. THAT is the dynamic at play.
A parallel argument can be made for our compromised "4th estate." Some writers argue that they are never told what to write, or what editorial slant to assume. Still, most paid writers, especially those who write regularly for established mainstream periodicals, are very careful when it comes to not stepping on the toes of their editors & paymasters. Censorship can happen in covert ways.
When Obama started "the debate" over healthcare by giving away the bargaining chip that would have satisfied the left (taking single payer off the table), he already assumed a centrist position. From there, the giveaways just kept on getting better and better... for the big insurance companies. Just as Obama gave it all away to the banks.
When you analyze the various positions that Obama and the stooge democrats have taken, then PATTERN evidently emerges. Attorneys understand what this means. Why give reasonable doubt (in the form of "still looking for a reason to believe") to those who have so clearly sold out on the public's interests in so many arenas. The worst of these include the amoral response to the Copenhagen environmental summit, the continuation of imperials wars of aggression, yet more investment in weapons, and pretending coal/nuclear = sane energy policies. The list is very long, and extremely dire. Then, too, you can add the cherry of powerful PR mechanisms that give the public the idea they are getting something good (like "Prescription drug benefit plan") when in reality, they are being set up for another set of costs or losses. Social Security will be next. The lessons from "The Chicago School" have now come home to roost. We are being cooked.
Maybe this will help -- it's a message I posted on a message board a couple of days ago:
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This is a bit tough for me to analyze: it's complicated, and I haven't been paying that much attention to the detail, and certainly not reading through 2 or 3 thousand pages of bills, but as near as I can see now the game plan was this, in general:
The insurance companies wanted to lock people into buy their crap (and it's crap because no matter how much health care costs, they get a hefty percentage of it with doing any actual work for it -- nothing of real value).
The range, in order, was full socialized medicine, single payer, public option, forced private insurance, status quo. Of these it was forced private they most favored. The issue was raised, and the most logical and cost effect was socialized (meaning not that the government controlled treatment, but just picked up the tab), or single payer (pretty much the government, but it could have been a national health plan including everyone). That, the insurance companies did not want at all. It was easy to have the Dems argue for single payer -- Obama campaigned on it, in fact -- but there had to be an opposing force to stop that. At the same time, ststus quo was making a huge amount of money for the insurance companies, but they wanted more -- and also people were starting to complain and agitate, so it was best to do something to meet those complaints.
The opposing force would be the Republicans, who conflated government paid care with government controlled care, and with the dreaded bugaboo of 'socialism' which had already been distorted to mean oppression of people's freedom instead of the people's control of the country. So the game was afoot, and the issue was raised, but the variuos sides were manipulated to move the resolution to the desired result -- with the idea of 'compromise' being needed, and weakening the single payer or public option (with competition possible) results. As people became more insistent on the more public possibilities even the Democrats had to squash that -- even refusing to let it be discussed -- while the Republicans hardened their position.
It was all about playing the two sides against each other to achieve just the right balance for the desired outcome.
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Ok, so you're saying the Insurance companies colluded to play the Dems and Repubs against each other? Or that the Dems and Repubs worked together "out of sight" to collude with the Ins. companies to achieve the desired result?
You seem to have plenty of time to respond with nonsense, why don't you take the time to read up on the subject. You seem to be twisting what people say, it is much more sophisticated than that. I know reading takes alot of time and TV is a quick source of junk news, but come on. Or are you just apologizing for the corrupt D party?
What do you mean nonsense? You seem to simply not answer my question. Are the Dems and Repubs in collusion or not? Are the insurance companies playing them off each other without they're knowing it, or are they all in collusion? Just answer my question instead of brushing me off. And fyi, I don't consider myself an apologist for the Dems. I think both parties suck, BUT at least the Dems (or at least more than 50% let's say) seem to have their hearts in the right place, just corrupted horribly, or stuck working with a bunch of corrupted Dems. People like Bernie Sanders, Kucinich, Feingold, Durbin, Keith Ellison, Franken, Kennedy (when he was alive), Pat Leahy, many others ARE good Dems stuck in an effed up situation.
The Repubs on the other hand are flat out racist, fascist to the core TO START OUT. So answer my question.
I already answered it along time ago, apparently you have not done your homework. You are either naive or an apologist, that much has become clear
To, hopefully, answer your question; Yes, the D/R dichotomy is, and always was, a false one.
Both play a set of cards that, always, eventually moves the line of scrimmage a little more toward the concentration of wealth and power into fewer and fewer hands.
They put on a good show, and sometimes seem grossly at odds, but their main goal is to provide theatre that distracts the "huddled masses" from the economic activities
of the rich investment and ownership-of-production class.
This is how the country was set up. If we wanted true representation and equality a coalition form of legislature would have been established.
However, the form of government we have ensures nothing but little wiggles around the center of a tilted table is all that is accomplished.
Without trying to be offensive, I donot know what socialists problem is today.
I usually like what he/she says, as well as a few others here, but today they each seem a bit off their game. socialist's pedagogy seems out of character. Maybe he/she needs to take a good crap or something. Because you don't need to watch a score of videos to come to the point. Merely repeating that you need to get up to speed with certain avenues of thought - experts - seems lazy or the workings of someone trying to maintain an intellectual status without merit. That is, he/she has nothing to contribute but needs to maintain superiority.
In actual fact, you are not asking anything stupid or so esoteric it needs to be foisted onto "experts", nor are you wrong in your conclusion there is a true left/right.
In fact, philisophically, there is. I won't belabor the details; the labels may be arbitrary but they symbolize a true dichotomy of thought, action, motive and emotional philosophy. They directly inform a person's relationship to their fellow humans and how a society of _humans_, as opposed to "mere" animals vying for limited resources within a social group, should be established and sustained. In that, you are not mistaken.
I hope this helps.
Oh, the reason I even bothered to login and type anything was originally to inform you that Bernie Sanders is NOT a Democrat. He is independent and generally regardes as a socialist. I find his caving to the majority in the Senate to be horrific for such and informed him of that last night.
Oh, and not to seem above criticism, but if anyone replies to this in it won't be responded to. I'm not in the mood for an argument.
No. They collude to hedge their bets. If the Republicans were in office they'd get what they want. The Democrats are in office and they got what they wanted. This article outlines how little insurance companies and Big Pharma gave up in exchange for millions of new customers and continued brand-name drug monopolies. If a member of either party pisses them off, they can always cut off the money, which is a pretty significant chunk of change.
Yes, they represent the oligarchy pure and simple. There are few in congress who are not millionaires. They know who butters their bread.
"D"
"why the rabid right fought so hard against this"
If you're referring to the right wing politicians and pundits, the fought this because it's effective political theater for them to do so, it scores them votes with their base, who mostly are racists and uneducated ignoramuses.
You're exactly right. I can't believe how many people still can't see this. They say things like "well the Republicans hated it, so it must be good." There's no Dems vs Repubs, it's all theater.
And I have been saying this forever. It's good cop bad cop all the way period.
(KABUKI THEATER) for corporate america.
"D"
Sioux Rose
STYROFOAM: I think those who use this canard are apologists for the democratic party or paid shills. The truth IS too obvious to deny or excuse at this point.
I would argue that they knew it wouldn't work. The louder they protest, the more they ram the point home that they were dead set against it from day 1. Once this bill takes effect and Americans realize how bad it is, the Republicans will retake congress by a landslide. People won't know that it's based on a Republican approach or note that the right has nothing constructive to add to the discussion, they'll just look at whodunnit and punish them. Pretty good strategy if all one cares about is winning.
The "HCR" Bill that just got signed into law by the Obama Administration was written by Republicans back in the 1990's, and it's a bail-out for the Insurance companies, and for BigPharma. What the Right doesn't realize is that Obama may well actually be their best buddy right now, even though they, as well as lots of so-called "Progressives" and Democrats, fail to realize that.
I can't believe that this Congress or even this progressive caucus--(remember Californians--Lyn Woolsey caved) will pass real Health Care Reform. It might happen at the state level though. So here is my scenario:
California gets a new governor, a California state wide single payer law passes. The governor says he will enact it despite federal prohibitions--a constitutional challenge ensues-- California looses. The people remain defiant and California threatens secession- not a right wing revolt--a left wing one.
Too fanciful? Or we could just let all those states south of the Mason Dixon line secede. With them gone we would have enough consensus to pass meaningful Health Reform even with our corrupted Congress. That's a better idea--let Georgia, Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama go back to their slavery roots--they can take Tennessee, and Kentucky with them--good riddance to all of y'all.
The Democrats will smother real reform in California just as they did nationally. But this time it won't even make the papers. Real reform will die quietly.
"This is nothing new, no television crew
They don't even put on the sirens"
The Calif. legislature did send a single-payer bill to the Governador which he promptly vetoed.
If Jerry Brown can beat the e-bay fortune in the governors race in Nov. there is a remote possibility that Calif. could establish a state single-payer system that might eventually spread to at least a few other states (can't imagine it spreading to the South during our lifetimes).
"The Calif. legislature did send a single-payer bill to the Governador which he promptly vetoed."
Yeah--and what political party big-wigs put the Governador into office so he could promptly vetoe the bill? Democrats! They backed Arnold all the way.
So we could go around and around with this all day with "if" this or "if" that.
The bigger point is the Democrats in CA are just as corrupt and owned by big business as they are on the national level.
You have to address the corruption. And hiding the issue of singlepayer away at the state level is not facing the problem.
Sure like I'll get my %20 pay lost to Furloughs back! That'll be the day. I see in at least a dozen places where under this bill No State can have a Single Payer plan on it's own.
I'm only up to page 936 any body read further that can help. I've been whipsawed so many times this last year I can barely think straight.