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What If The People Of Afghanistan Could Choose?
After an intense review, President Obama recently ordered about thirty thousand more U.S. troops to Afghanistan. The question is, should this decision have been made by the U.S. government? The goals for the United States are to prevent an Al Qaida threat in the homeland and to stabilize the Afghan situation, allowing for some level of central government control and a face-saving withdrawal. But who else could or should have weighed in on this decision, and what are their motivations?
The Afghan government realizes that any downsizing of the U.S. presence could threaten its hold on political power. President Karzai recently stated that he expects the U.S. military presence to continue until 2024. The U.S. public is split, mainly along party lines, between those who want an early withdrawal of troops to prevent a quagmire, and those who support the U.S. military presence and fear that withdrawal would squander the investment already made.
The missing voice among these acknowledged players is that of the Afghan public. No country can impose on another a decision that country cannot abide. History is filled with attempts by strong powers to force actions upon weaker ones. This has worked sometimes in the short run, but usually crashes in the long term. The power of democracy is its dependence upon the will of the people who are impacted by a decision.
Indeed, the Afghan citizenry seems to have no say, yet is the group that stands to gain or lose the most from the U.S. occupation. Modern warfare kills and wounds more local civilians than armed actors (about 80 percent, compared to 20 percent). Yet those civilians have little or no ability to choose their own participation.
What if Afghani citizens were to determine whether the U.S. military continues a surge or withdraws troops? Certainly this is a fitting step in encouraging democracy. It would also provide the incentive for Afghanis to really own and support a chosen policy on the ground. And perhaps the Afghanis themselves know best how to create a stable nation that does not house terrorists.
In January 2010, Iraq was to hold a referendum on withdrawing the remaining U.S. troops. This plan was scrapped when it became clear it would only reduce U.S. presence by a few months and so was not worth the logistic and financial costs. If a referendum on U.S. troop presence is of merit for Iraqi citizens, is it not also for Afghans, before U.S. troops become more firmly entrenched there?
Who knows what the Afghans would decide if the choice was theirs. Poll results in Afghanistan have varied by region and ethnicity, with a fairly large margin of error. But Afghanistan could hold a national binding referendum on U.S. military presence at the same time as planned parliamentary elections in May. (Given the experience of their last public vote, for president, improved preparations and precautions are needed.) First, the U.S. President or Congress must assert their intent to open a space to hear the voice of the Afghan people. They could encourage Afghan lawmakers to consider such a referendum as a way of respecting the will of the people and of seeking the support of their own citizens.
Would a referendum change the dynamics of the war? If the Afghanis voted to keep troops there, then the U.S. could expect better cooperation from the public (in both Afghanistan and the U.S.) and would be confident it is respecting the will of the citizens. (This is especially so if there is strong voter participation and the results show a wide margin.) It might also convince mainly skeptical world opinion and governments to provide more military and other aid. If the Afghanis voted against the troops remaining in Afghanistan, and the U.S. honors that, again we are respecting what Afghanis want for their own country. Then U.S. options might include undertaking training of police and military personnel; providing support for building the country’s economic, political, and educational systems; and making payments to militia in the same way that the U.S., perhaps in large part, bought its way out of an insurgency in Iraq. Significant resources could be made available in all these ways if there was no combat presence to financially support.
Our nation asserts that it sends its military overseas to protect freedoms at home and promote freedom and democracy elsewhere. The United States can take another step toward democracy in the world by encouraging it in Afghanistan—and it might even bring other benefits, as well. The United States can let the people of Afghanistan choose.



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Show AllWoa! Cliff and Neil...do you really think the US should bring it's brand of 'democracy' to other countries when it supports and has supported ruthless dictatorships throughout south america and in the middle east? Your words here are rife with naivete!! The US is a fascist state, and one that endorses torture, rape, pillage, murder and illegal occupations!! It is, along with Israel, the greatest terrorist state on the planet today!
A good bumper sticker would be "when you're done spreading democracy in the Middle East, can we get some here at home?"
How many decades does a quagmire make?
I bet a vote in Nazi occupied Poland would be clearly unbiased as one in a nation with 300,000 occupiers.
I am sure they would choose to be bombed rather than a limiting of female civil rights.(snark)
Better yet let them vote for the Peace Conference Karzai and the Taliban keep suggesting.
And hello, the Afghan National Army the USA is attempting to create is merely a repressive Tajek USA adjunct, to suppress the majority Pashtuns.
Anybody who believes the USA is the lest concerned with democracy is dumber than my stinky sneaker.
Democracy shares a role with christianity: it's a very good idea and we should give it a try some time.
In the most recent primary here in Iowa, the D candidates responded to the anti-war sentiments of the voters and jockeyed for position of candidate who was the most anti-war. Obama claimed that role, a majority of voters believed him (even though Kucinich clearly earned the title) and he won the primary based on being the MOST anti-war.
He goes on to win the election and becomes president. The people of the nation think they are electing an anti-war leader. The people of the nation elect what they believe is a congress that are not lap dogs of the military.
Fast forward to now. The US retains a strong military in Iraq. We expand military interventions in Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan and Columbia and most likely, other places unnamed. Congress passes the most exaggerated and bloated military budget in our history.
Democracy in the US is dysfunctional. The people, on issue after issue, are misrepresented. The actions of our govt. do not reflect the will of the people.
We need to begin with a functional democracy in the US. We don't have that now.
"The goals for the United States are to prevent an Al Qaida threat in the homeland and to stabilize the Afghan situation, allowing for some level of central government control and a face-saving withdrawal"
REALLY? Another dumb article based on a false premise...
Our nation asserts that it sends its military overseas to protect freedoms at home and promote freedom and democracy elsewhere. ----------------
Wouldn't it be lovely if our freedoms at home weren't in such dire need of protecting "at home".
Our nation asserts that it sends its military overseas to protect freedoms at home and promote freedom and democracy elsewhere. ----------------
Wouldn't it be lovely if our freedoms at home weren't in such dire need of protecting "at home".
Hog Wash, OUT NOW DAMN IT--you are just a bunch of murdering morons that have no clew on how to lead--you are exactly as bad as you were when you were white faced sons of....
And just when do we take to the streets to demand an end to these wars without end?? A moot point considering most are ok that its happening over there rather than here. Don't bother me, CSI is coming on (on 4 different channels!)
~Some people live their whole lives without ever waking up~
If you go to RethinkAfghanistan.com, you will find that the civilians of Afghanistan do not want US troops there. You will also see that Pakistan wants the Taliban in power because that guarentees a power sympathetic to Pakistan on it's northern border with a hostile neighbor, India to it's south. Sandwiched between two 'Indias' is totally unacceptable for Pakistan and will never happen.
It is hard to believe that a president of the Harvard Law Review and straight A student at one of the most prestigious schools in the world, is so dumb as not to see that...
....or is it?
Or is it? No it is not hard to believe as our world is full of these type of people. That is why they are called educated idiots!
oh, he probably sees it, but does that matter? no.
A better headline would be: WHAT IF THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA COULD CHOOSE? It is our fascist, government that is determining the war policy in Afghanistan and that headline is sophomoric to say the least, and is a non sequitur. " The goals of the U.S. are to prevent an al-Qaeda threat in the homeland and to stabilize the Afghan situation ". Pleeease! The goals in Afghanistan are to stabilize the government so the U.S. can control the heroin trade first and the oil trade second! Al Qaeda is only an excuse for American stealing and robbing Afghanistan of these two valuable resources. Think about it: The Taliban have no Navy,no Airforce, and no WMD's, and they just want to be left alone, so why are they demonized as some kind of threat to our homeland the most powerful country in the world?
I thought the same thing. Of course the Afghans should be able to choose whether American troops and mercenaries remain in their country, but Americans should also have the same choice, which under any semblance of a functioning democracy we would. Since we have no democracy, we have no more say in the matter than the Afghans. Obama's lies about this farce of a "war" are every bit as degenerate and repulsive as Bush's were re/ Iraq. His love affair with drones blowing away civilians, under the bullshit rationale of "terrorists" hiding among them, is as reprehensible as Bush's affection for spreading radioactive "depleted" uranium death all over Iraq and destroying the country to save it for American oil companies. Obama is committing the exact same crimes in Afghanistan as Bush did in Iraq, and they both deserve to be prosecuted for war crimes at international tribunals.
The Afghan people are not going to get to decide about what these authors say they should. Not anymore than Americans can decide about Obama's warmongering obsessions. We're ruled by elitist thugs who have managed to dismantle democracy and don't care a damn about what "the people", either here or there, think about it.
oil trade + gas pipeline (mainly)
That sounds pretty much correct except You left out the part about geo-positioning for the USI.
Let the people of Afghanistan decide. If they were allowed to they would want the US out--we cause more harm than good. But ,like here, people don't matter-- the Military and Wall Street rule.
RAWA is an Afghan women's organization, this is what they say:
http://tinyurl.com/yh9h5u
an election in afghanistan? corn crops sprouting from the lunar surface? cactus seeds sprouting from the alskan tudra? igloos intact across the mohabi desert? phenomema 2,3, and 4 will happen before the word afghanistan and elections creditably share the same page,nay,the same chapter? nay, the same book? nay, the same universe? well, maybe.
What if the WOMEN of Afghanistan had a choice? What if they were free from forced marriages at age 8, acid in the face if they want to go to school, beheadings if they show their ankles? Assasination if they dare to hold a job?What would they say?
There are no "people". There are women and there are men.
Uuuh, sometimes I forget that it was because of the lack of women's rights that the US decided to so selfishly and charitably get involved in Afghanistan.
~sigh~
If the people of Afghanistan could choose, they wouldn't have anybody, including the United States, occupying their country.
the people have been saying for no USA military, or military aid to the warlords for quite awhile, and say a political settlement with the 'taliban'...I'm kinda perplexed why you writers are still asking for an 'election' to decide popular will.
sorry, I'm not going to waste an hour looking just to post articles ...
And you infer that the USA is withdrawing from Iraq.
what?
combat troops yes in some large number over TWO YEARS.......closing down huge military bases no. Stopping bombing, that is going on now by the way, of 'insurgents'? no. Withdrawing 'police forces'...no.
god.
Coulda...
Shoulda...
Woulda...
Thanks for these good ideas. A related one I've been thinking about is related to individual terror bombing, especially since the near disaster that would have happened if the "underwear bomber" had been successful. Screening and profiling people as is going on now at airports around the world will one day fail - desperate people and organizations will find a way through the screens as this gentleman did - the screens only seem to block previous methods rather than be able to see what future attempts will be like. And the west or India or ? has been unable to stop determined attacks on hotels, airplanes, embassies etc. in Europe, India, Indonesia, Pakistan and more. Screening and profiling are only attacking the symptoms, not the core problem. President Obama in one of his recent press conferences reiterated that "we are at war". Isn't that the core problem?
He seemed to be saying that we are in a war with some in the Islamic world(not all). Some spokespersons from the Islamic world say loudly that there is a Christian Crusade against them. That is what they see. Mr. Obama made a good start when he visited Cairo early in his presidency when he promoted dialogue with the Islamic world. He needs to continue and expand on this. We must empathize with the Islamic world - not necessarily agree with it - adn understand how they see this Crusade. The west, including Canada, my country, are engaged in invasions and occupations of Muslim countries such as Afghanistan (where the lastest reports indicate that NATO, with air-strikes and cross-fires is killing 3 children per day there), Iraq, with bases in many holy places of Islam such as Saudi Arabia. And we support the oppression of the Palestinians by the State of Israel, an this is not an anti-semitic statement, just one of fact.
I am saying that we need to start by allowing what Cliff and his colleague are saying in Afghanistan and extend the dialogue to leaders and the people of the Islamic world so we can end this war of misunderstanding between the peoples of the west and the Islamic world. I do not imply that the Islamic world is a monolith - it is not and there are many debates regarding how to move forward. To kill oneself as is done in a suicide bombing is a sin according to my Islamic friend and the Koran.
The only way out of this mess is to start the dialogue - ask people what they want instead of labelling people as terrorists and using "state terror" against them.