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An Open Letter to President Obama from Michael Moore
Dear President Obama,
Do you really want to be the new "war president"? If you go to West Point tomorrow night (Tuesday, 8pm) and announce that you are increasing, rather than withdrawing, the troops in Afghanistan, you are the new war president. Pure and simple. And with that you will do the worst possible thing you could do -- destroy the hopes and dreams so many millions have placed in you. With just one speech tomorrow night you will turn a multitude of young people who were the backbone of your campaign into disillusioned cynics. You will teach them what they've always heard is true -- that all politicians are alike. I simply can't believe you're about to do what they say you are going to do. Please say it isn't so.
It is not your job to do what the generals tell you to do. We are a civilian-run government. WE tell the Joint Chiefs what to do, not the other way around. That's the way General Washington insisted it must be. That's what President Truman told General MacArthur when MacArthur wanted to invade China. "You're fired!," said Truman, and that was that. And you should have fired Gen. McChrystal when he went to the press to preempt you, telling the press what YOU had to do. Let me be blunt: We love our kids in the armed services, but we f*#&in' hate these generals, from Westmoreland in Vietnam to, yes, even Colin Powell for lying to the UN with his made-up drawings of WMD (he has since sought redemption).
So now you feel backed into a corner. 30 years ago this past Thursday (Thanksgiving) the Soviet generals had a cool idea -- "Let's invade Afghanistan!" Well, that turned out to be the final nail in the USSR coffin.
There's a reason they don't call Afghanistan the "Garden State" (though they probably should, seeing how the corrupt President Karzai, whom we back, has his brother in the heroin trade raising poppies). Afghanistan's nickname is the "Graveyard of Empires." If you don't believe it, give the British a call. I'd have you call Genghis Khan but I lost his number. I do have Gorbachev's number though. It's + 41 22 789 1662. I'm sure he could give you an earful about the historic blunder you're about to commit.
With our economic collapse still in full swing and our precious young men and women being sacrificed on the altar of arrogance and greed, the breakdown of this great civilization we call America will head, full throttle, into oblivion if you become the "war president." Empires never think the end is near, until the end is here. Empires think that more evil will force the heathens to toe the line -- and yet it never works. The heathens usually tear them to shreds.
Choose carefully, President Obama. You of all people know that it doesn't have to be this way. You still have a few hours to listen to your heart, and your own clear thinking. You know that nothing good can come from sending more troops halfway around the world to a place neither you nor they understand, to achieve an objective that neither you nor they understand, in a country that does not want us there. You can feel it in your bones.
I know you know that there are LESS than a hundred al-Qaeda left in Afghanistan! A hundred thousand troops trying to crush a hundred guys living in caves? Are you serious? Have you drunk Bush's Kool-Aid? I refuse to believe it.
Your potential decision to expand the war (while saying that you're doing it so you can "end the war") will do more to set your legacy in stone than any of the great things you've said and done in your first year. One more throwing a bone from you to the Republicans and the coalition of the hopeful and the hopeless may be gone -- and this nation will be back in the hands of the haters quicker than you can shout "tea bag!"
Choose carefully, Mr. President. Your corporate backers are going to abandon you as soon as it is clear you are a one-term president and that the nation will be safely back in the hands of the usual idiots who do their bidding. That could be Wednesday morning.
We the people still love you. We the people still have a sliver of hope. But we the people can't take it anymore. We can't take your caving in, over and over, when we elected you by a big, wide margin of millions to get in there and get the job done. What part of "landslide victory" don't you understand?
Don't be deceived into thinking that sending a few more troops into Afghanistan will make a difference, or earn you the respect of the haters. They will not stop until this country is torn asunder and every last dollar is extracted from the poor and soon-to-be poor. You could send a million troops over there and the crazy Right still wouldn't be happy. You would still be the victim of their incessant venom on hate radio and television because no matter what you do, you can't change the one thing about yourself that sends them over the edge.
The haters were not the ones who elected you, and they can't be won over by abandoning the rest of us.
President Obama, it's time to come home. Ask your neighbors in Chicago and the parents of the young men and women doing the fighting and dying if they want more billions and more troops sent to Afghanistan. Do you think they will say, "No, we don't need health care, we don't need jobs, we don't need homes. You go on ahead, Mr. President, and send our wealth and our sons and daughters overseas, 'cause we don't need them, either."
What would Martin Luther King, Jr. do? What would your grandmother do? Not send more poor people to kill other poor people who pose no threat to them, that's what they'd do. Not spend billions and trillions to wage war while American children are sleeping on the streets and standing in bread lines.
All of us that voted and prayed for you and cried the night of your victory have endured an Orwellian hell of eight years of crimes committed in our name: torture, rendition, suspension of the bill of rights, invading nations who had not attacked us, blowing up neighborhoods that Saddam "might" be in (but never was), slaughtering wedding parties in Afghanistan. We watched as hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians were slaughtered and tens of thousands of our brave young men and women were killed, maimed, or endured mental anguish -- the full terror of which we scarcely know.
When we elected you we didn't expect miracles. We didn't even expect much change. But we expected some. We thought you would stop the madness. Stop the killing. Stop the insane idea that men with guns can reorganize a nation that doesn't even function as a nation and never, ever has.
Stop, stop, stop! For the sake of the lives of young Americans and Afghan civilians, stop. For the sake of your presidency, hope, and the future of our nation, stop. For God's sake, stop.
Tonight we still have hope.
Tomorrow, we shall see. The ball is in your court. You DON'T have to do this. You can be a profile in courage. You can be your mother's son.
We're counting on you.
Yours, Michael Moore MMFlint@aol.com MichaelMoore.com
P.S. There's still time to have your voice heard. Call the White House at 202-456-1111 or email the President.



274 Comments so far
Show AllI sincerely hope President Obama listens to Michael Moore's plea for reason, sanity, and justice and steps back from the abyss to find humane ways of dealing with conflicting interests rather than escalating the fighting. However, I have little expectation that this will actually transpire. I haven't had much faith in Obama since he ran a campaign heavy to emotional rhetoric and light on actual policy. Then when he stood in front of the Constitution of the United States enshrined in the National Archives, the document that explicitly enumerates certain rights, among which are habeas corpus, and announced his intention to set up a program of indefinite "preventive" detention, I just about fell out of my chair. Yes, there is an audacity to the man, but of despair, not hope.
At least LBJ threw a little butter in with the guns.
Obama has proven to be another Herbert Hoover when it comes to domestic issues and another LBJ when it comes to gunning for the military industrial media complex.
"We are a civilian-run government." Sometimes, I wonder. Thank you Michael Moore...I echo your plea of "Stop! Stop! Stop!"
I have received word that my friends in Orange County, New York, just south of my own Ulster County, with whom I have arranged previous West Point graduation protests against Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney, have planned a protest presence at West Point during Obama's speech there. If you live within any kind of reasonable commute to West Point you should show up. And anyone who lives in the NYC commute area, which is something like 18 million people, all live within 90 minutes of West Point, which isn't enough time to excuse failing to show up. Even Philly is less than three hours, Hartford and Albany less than two. No excuses. Please quickly spread the following logistical details, grab three friends, and show up. This is a legal, peaceful demonstration arranged with local authorities, so there is no risk. It's purpose is to do exactly what Michael Moore just described -- to announce to Obama that anti-war Americans are officially assigning him ownership of the war in Afghanistan as the price for this announcement, and will treat him accordingly. West Point is in Highland Falls, NY.
"President Obama has chosen Orange County, West Point, as the site of his speech THIS Tuesday night. We MUST RESPOND WITH AS LARGE A PRESENCE AS IS POSSIBLE. THAT MEANS YOU. Each of us much make maximum effort to be in Highland Falls by 6:00 p.m. Tuesday night. Come via Route 218 and park and walk to Veterans Park. Bring a flashlight and a candle. Bring your friends. Bring your energy as we will rally and then engage in a candlelight/flashlight lit march to the gates and back to the park. WE MUST BE HEARD, RAIN OR SHINE..."
Driving directions:
Coming from North of West Point: NYS Thruway to Exit 17, Newburgh. Follow signs to 9W South. There are two entrances to the town from 9W. The first one is where Rt. 218 cuts into Highland Falls and it will take you into Main St. in 1.1 miles. The second, about mile and a half further south on 9W connects directly with Main St. (Rt. 218) and you go north a mile or so.
Coming from or through NYC: George Washington Bridge to Palisades Parkway to exit for 9W North 2 miles to exit for 218, take 218 right into downtown Highland Falls.
Coming from west or south of NYC: NYS Thruway to exit 13W to Palisades Parkway, then same as above.
Spread the word, now. No excuses. Show up. Be heard tomorrow and start the new movement.
Just wanted to let you know I posted your post on my blog so that more people can read your comment and hopefully show up. I live in AZ but I encouraged my friend who lives in New York to go. I hope you have a good turn out.
Down here in Florida we send our best... have a good one.
Sorry--double post
Good for you! I hope there is a huge turnout. I live near Seattle; otherwise, I'd be there. Good luck!
Mr Moore is certainly right. It is utterly useless from the very beginning to wage a war against Afghanistan. It only serves the benefit of military industrial complex but nothing else. After the WWII, it is the tendency of US elites to wage war against any small nation to enhance the military hardware business. Even this current sensible president turns to be powerless. It's a pity that in a democratic nation a democratically elected highest executive becomes a poodle in their hands. So I do believe that it is time for the citizens to come out and wage a massive peaceful demonstration. That will definitely end that attitude for ever. Mr Obama is going to send more troops and synergize the war. When the economy will be fully crushed then automatically it would stop. So the history repeats. Very unfortunate indeed.
3 little words. Military Industrial Complex.
4. Military Industrial Congressional Complex.
Try eight. Military-Industrial-Technological-Entertainment-Scientific-Media-Intelligence-Corporate Complex. From Nick Turse's "The Complex: How the Military Invades Our Everyday Lives." (Metropolitan Books, 2008) You're right, Congressional could be added to the list. But in other words, it's essentially the whole damn society; without militarism we would HAVE no society today. Our economy would be about 1/10th its present size. We live, work and breathe WAR.
Ummm...heh heh. That's 9 words....
Just sain'....
Getcher point tho'.
Mike, get a grip, you speak as though we had some small degree of democratic leverage on our hood ornament in the White House. That was gone long ago, Buddy. When JFK was ambushed in Dallas in the most suspicious of circumstances and we were in a land war in Asia within a year and a half, what did we do? When leading political figures of the sixties were gunned down in succession, King, RFK, Malcolm, Wallace, what did we do? When our industry was being whittled down to nothing by NAFTA and other "free trade" treaties and most of our fellow citizens were being forced into debt peonage, what did we do? When our election in 2000 was clearly stolen by the "Supreme" Court, what did we do? When our Constitution was rendered voluntary by the panic created by an "attack" that still has no rational official explanation, what did we do? When we entered into a permanent state of war for reasons that were proven to be total lies, what did we do? Pardon the repitition but the time to speak of this problem as though electoral efforts might solve it is long past, might have been able to do that forty years ago. Now, if there were any hope of waking our sleepwalking fellow citizens from their consensus trance, the solution is not in electoral politics but in boycott, non-cooperation and the general strike. Good luck, Mike, you've done your best, much appreciated.
Tony Vodvarka
Nicely stated, Tony. I agree 100%.
Very well said, Tony.
Thank you, Tony --
"According to all myth, the female - not the male -- gives life"
Standing O, tony.
ยท Yr Obd't Servant
Excellent comment, Tony.
Mr. Obama was elevated to the Presidency by our oligarchy because of his dapper good looks, mesmerizing oratorical skills and complete and utter SPINELESSNESS.
He was the perfect leading man.
And the money-masters who orchestrated his ascension are making him dance like there's no tomorrow.
McCain couldn't have sold the masses on continued bank bailouts, get-out-of-jail free cards for Bush-era war criminals and empire expansion.
Stupid and doddering could no longer close the sale.
Beer drinking morons were out.
Smart was in.
Enter the naive community organizer from Lincoln land.
Behind the cover of his academic background and color of his skin Obama is wheeling and dealing at breathtaking speed.
He's doing exactly what anyone WHO WAS PAYING ATTENTION knew he'd do.
Dance, Dance, Dance.
"McCain couldn't have sold the masses on continued bank bailouts, get-out-of-jail free cards for Bush-era war criminals and empire expansion."
What makes you think that Obama has "sold" anyone one these issues? I have seen no evidence whatsoever that the majority of Americans support the government's actions on these matters.
q
Ever walk into a store not wanting to buy anything but the salesperson was so slick you walked out with a bag full of merchandise?
Starting Tuesday we've all bought a newly escalated war in Af/Pak whether we want it or not.
Until the people are rioting in the streets demanding a full refund it's ours.
We own it.
"Ever walk into a store not wanting to buy anything but the salesperson was so slick you walked out with a bag full of merchandise?"
No.
"Until the people are rioting in the streets demanding a full refund it's ours.
We own it."
Bullshit. You're trying to equate an unwillingness to resort to violence with support for Obama's decisions.
q
Starting Tuesday we are all owners of the newly escalated Af/Pak war.
Even if you don't want ownership, you've had it thrust upon you.
My use of the word "riot" was a poor one.
I should've said "protest" instead.
These days, any meeting of more than three people who are not part of the Elite is under suspicion...
"Even if you don't want ownership, you've had it thrust upon you."
Nope. Sorry, you're just wrong.
Actually, your decision to respond was a poor one. You're trying to counter my original point - that Obama has not persuaded the majority of US citizens to support the policies that are the subject of the article - by arguing that all US citizens are responsible for his actions as president. Even if you are correct - and you aren't - your linkage is illogical.
q
If you pay your taxes, and I'm not going to ask you if you do, you are the owner of the newly expanded Af/Pak war.
It matters little whether you or I or the masses agree with his decision.
Unless we force him to change his position and continue to finance it Obama has closed the sale.
"If you pay your taxes, and I'm not going to ask you if you do, you are the owner of the newly expanded Af/Pak war."
If the US government depended on our taxes to wage wars then you'd be correct. You have to pay your taxes regardless of whether or not you voted for the current officeholders responsible for making these decisions.
Again, you're trying to make a connection that simply does not exist.
q
The U.S. government finances their operations with taxes and U.S. Treasuries.
Taxes are paid yearly and Treasuries are paid out over time.
Both are paid largely by citizens.
Cygnus-X1-isaHole
I have to agree with quickstepper here. Look at it this way, we all pay taxes but wwe don't all elect the group that spends them. The misuse of our tax dollars, the misuse of our military is the responsibility of those that elect the folks that misuse them.
Blame the military because Bush and Cheney misused them? Don't think so. Blame them because Obama won't wiothdraw them? Nope. Blame every citizen when the majority favor withdrawing? I just can't see it.
The blame/responsibility going forward are those that support the leadership of Pelosi/Reid and the Presidency of Obama. The people that oppose them are not responsible.....I see your point, but I just can't agree.
The blame of each individual citizen is infinitesimally small, of course.
And even smaller among the virtually unrepresented peace crowd.
Nevertheless I accept my responsibility and failure to bring an end to the violence.
You are, of course, free to think/believe otherwise.
Fair enough.
But you are trying to end it....in my estimation I can't hold you responsible for it. So we'll just disagree and next time we will probably agree.
In any case, my compliments for being among the civil and thoughtful group here at CD that keeps me coming back in spite of the low hanging fruit. I have learned things from both of you and appreciate it.
Europeans aren't nearly as nervous about applying actual pressure to their political machinery when it fails to serve them, by even (dare I say it?) rioting in the streets when nothing else will serve. This is why they've been able to now and then have at least a semblance of socialism, in crucial matters like health care and worker's rights, that have eluded the passive American public for about 70 years now. In our case, the power elites know we aren't going to riot or apply any serious pressure at all, so they continue getting away with every form of murder, both literal and metaphorical.
Good reply. Thanks.
Direct, diverse, action gets the goods. Angry riots and carefully targeted property damage, are one of the arrows in the people's quiver, to be brought out after other possibilities are exhauted.
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Ephraim, this is from Wikipedia: Most current universal health care systems [in Europe] were implemented in the period following the Second World War as a process of deliberate healthcare reform, intended to make health care available to all, in the spirit of Article 25 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights of 1948, signed by every country doing so. The US did not ratify the social and economic rights sections, including Article 25's right to health.
I didn't know that, did you? THE US DID NOT RATIFY THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC RIGHTS SECTIONS INCLUDING ARTICLE 25'S RIGHT TO HEALTH.
Well, of course, why would they have? Wouldn't be good for business, not that signing it would have meant they would have adhered to it anyway. Public demonstrations and Communist/Socialist participatory political parties have certainly contributed to European social democracy, and further, the UN's adoption of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights came out of the atrocities of WWII suffered firsthand by Europeans...
PS to Michael Moore: Never mind the koolaid, stop smoking the "Hopium!"
While we are on the topic of government machinery.First there is the indoctrination through TV Magic.
Next the homogenization of the USSA.Followed by WACO,9/11(government arranged)Oklahoma bombing, the Moslem in the back yard,waiting to get us. War is Good peace is bad.The economic coup/military industrial coup.
Throw in the mace,steel tipped rubber bullets,drones,Fema concentration camps,the mining of the phones/internet by the no such agency.The elderly population on their last legs.The 27 pound patriot act based on the KGB'S version.
The chosen people factor scam and the 80 million duped christian right,in LA LA waiting for the rapture and the RETURN!
What will that mean?Will JESUS head for the studio?Will he be on Charlie Rose or will it be Larry King.My choice would be Colbert.Will he be wearing Jeans suits or robes.Will he fly on airplanes,or just fly by himself maybe just walk across the Potomac and tell Obomba to get out of his chair?
SORRY DON'T mean to be blasphemous.Well maybe just a little.
Would much of the world have even known that dissent against the WTO existed in Switzerland had a few cars not been burned in Geneva? Do peaceful protests, or "open letters" get media coverage?
There was a huge anti-war movement against going into Afghanistan/Iraq --
And there is still a huge anti-war movement.
Taking a bus to DC over decades now has done nothing -- and it's intended to
be that way.
Those who do show up are more often greeted by our police enforcers dressed up
like Gestapo.
We need a new way of protesting -- and we seem to be avoiding thinking about that.
We're fighting corporate power and money -- and our protests should be centered on
using what's left of our dollars and our automobiles to change America by ending
corporatism.
We also need to be targeting Democrats who support the MIC -- including the
"intelligence" complex.
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"According to all myth, the female - not the male -- gives life"
No shopping for the holidays! No flying on jet airplanes. Go nowhere! Yes, inconvenient but our inconvenience is nothing compared to what our hapless soldiers and innocent people of Afghanistan will have to deal with. By passively resisting, we don't get our heads bashed in, no danger of being tasered to death. Can they arrest you for not going to work for two days? No need to resort to violence. Passive resistance!
And have a Merry Blackout Christmas. Isn't that what Jesus would want us to do?
There would be many avenues to more productive protest than going to DC on a bus
especially when Congress nor the President aren't there! That always ticked me off!
We're creative . . . many ways to do this . . .
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"According to all myth, the female - not the male -- gives life"
That question always makes me uncomfortable. But I feel a lot less uncomfortable saying He would probably prefer us to celebrate His birthday by sharing whatever we save by not shopping or flying with the poor. The homeless shelters are bursting at the seams and the food banks are getting desperate...
Take your wonderful suggestion just one step further and share out the savings.
Merry Christmas!
Moore still hasn't figured out that he and the rest of us useful idiots who voted for Obama have been punk'd.
This letter sickens me. Moore should edit this half-assed attempt at levity with the rage that most people with critical-thinking skills have felt for months.
In case you've forgotten, Moore did unleash his rage at W Bush and, in doing so, changed nothing. I can't blame him for choosing an alternative tone in this address.
What you describe as a "half-assed attempt at levity" is actually ridicule. Moore makes too many serious statements (e.g. correctly calling for McChrystal's ouster) to dismiss this message as a simple effort to find humor.
It seems clear to me that you have misinterpreted both the tone and the intent of Moore's letter.
q
The characteristic of Michael Moore that I've always appreciated is his refusal to deal in subtleties.
Moore is correct to call Obama out on this matter even as Moore knows - as we all do - that Obama is going to make the wrong decision again.
q
If we were in Afghanistan to "finish the job" as the President says, I could see some chance of turning this wrong direction in foreign policy around. Truth is we are there for the sake of an oil pipeline we are building and the country's strategic location between Iran and Russia/China. When economic theft and imperialism are the reasons for being in a foreign country, the only people who will get us out of the country will be that country's people themselves.
To quote that great hero of the conservatives Ronald Reagan, there you go again. Moore tells Obama of the "multitude of young people who were the backbone of your campaign" and who may now become his "disillusioned cynics." He follows this up by saying that "I simply can't believe that you're about to do what they say you are going to do. Please say it isn't so."
What Moore fails to note is that he was part of those people who had such abiding hope in Obama. Obama clearly said during the 2008 campaign that attention should have been paid to the so-called good war in Afghanistan. Despite having told the American people this, Michael Moore is simply shocked, shocked! that Barack Obama would actually decide to do what he said he would do when he was running for president. It never seems to have dawned on Moore to have listened to what Dennis Kucinich said during the campaign and that is that if you vote and support for the lesser of two evils you still end up with an evil. Moore had an opportunity to throw his support and influence behind a genuine peace candidate during the presidential campaign. He could have warned the American people that Obama was not what he seemed to be. Instead he became one of those foolish people who ended up endorsing a war president like Barack Obama. Michael Moore makes thoughtful and insightful films. Unfortunately, with this latest exhibition of buyers' remorse, one finds that his politics leaves a hell of a lot to be desired.
You're so right. I admit to having a love/hate thing for Moore. He makes some of the best, and the only, social documentaries these days that tell the real story about this whacked country but he never goes quite far enough in his otherwise trenchant analysis, blue-collar as it is and meant for everyman on the street. He ends up siding with whatever high profile Democrat that miserable half of the duopoly coughs up as most acceptable to corporate America.
His support for Obama seemed to signal that Moore simply had to be an insider, even if a marginal one, to where the Power was going, and everyone knew Obama would beat McCain. (Not that he would today.) Moore couldn't slide into obscurity by throwing his support to either Nader, Kucinich or McKinney. He has to be in the limelight, not carping and complaining on the sidelines like so many of us here. He still probably wants Obama to welcome him into the White House for a serious chat someday, even when his actual politics are more Naderite than Obamaian.
But telling Obama to "say it isn't so" at this juncture is beyond naive. Moore knows what a total sellout BHO is to Big Pharma and Insurance on health care, and that he's essentially blocked any version of real reform. He knows BHO has been jonesing for Afghanistan since he began campaigning in 2006, and yet he feigns shock and surprise that he's about to send 34,000 more troops there to "finish the job," which sounds like something a Mafia don would say about another family challenging his (illegitimate) territory.
Moore seems genuinely unable to see Obama as he really is--just another military/corporate puppet who is happy to be so. It's McChrystal and the rightwing haters of talk radio Obama wants to appease, not Michael Moore or anyone calling themselves progressives. And it's been that way since BHO strolled into the White House, the very picture of self-satisfaction.
But why, Ephraim? I can't understand why a big chunk of our so-called "progressive" punditry keeps holding out a sliver of hope for Brand Obama. Certainly Moore is not alone.
Is it because the thought of an alternative Republican shill is just too much to consider given the last eight years of Brand Bush?
Is there a kernel of truth to the term "Liberal Elite"?
When one mentions the obvious corporate takeover that we've been witnessing since the advent of Brand Reagan (and perhaps before) there seems to be general agreement. Even among D's and R's in some instances.
Could it be that ideological competitiveness (i.e. Our Leader is better than Yours) trumps reality?
Personally, I'm flummoxed.
I've been as flummoxed and vexed as you have, Old Peculiar. I suspect, don't know, that many pwogs keep having faith in Obama's doing the right thing (on health care, Afghanistan, Iraq, global warming, jobs creation instead of bending over for Wall St. etc.) because there is no political hope anywhere else. Certainly no one is going to turn to the Republicans, or Palin's roguery, or the fascistic hate-mongers of FauxNews.
Nader is always writing pithy articles about the sellout Dems but few expect him to EVER be elected to any office. There's just too much negativity spread around about Nader, mainly by "liberals" who can't stand him for various reasons. Mainly that he was a "spoiler" in 2000 and '04. Of course it's bullshit, but so much of liberalism today is. He'll keep doing what he does but I can't see a lot of hope for his electoral chances, given his age if nothing else. Half the country still doesn't even know who Kucinich and McKinney are, never heard of them, and would never vote for them if they had heard of them.
Where are there any other political possibilities? Howard Dean? LOL. Many progressives remain desperate enough to cling tightly to the promise of Obama, even in the face of so much contradiction from him. Wishful thinking, wishful hoping, no substance there. We're marooned on this insane island. Don't ask me where any help is coming from. Michael Moore inspires many, while others can't vilify him enough because he hasn't led a revolution, and only seems willing to go as far as the most high-profile progressive Democrat, like Obama, even when there isn't a shred of progressivism to be found with the man.
The whole damn thing is a trap, lain by MSM, corporate elites and multi-millionaire politicians. We're just riding the insipid merry-go-round, going nowhere.