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The Nobel Prize with an Asterisk
Despite the graciousness of his speech at the White House last Friday, President Obama's acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize did have an air slightly reminiscent of Lincoln's story about the man who was tarred, feathered and ridden out of town on a rail -- if it wasn't for the honor of the thing he'd just as soon walk.
Inger-Marie Ytterhorn, a member of the Nobel committee that chose him, told the Associated Press this week, "I looked at his face when he was on TV and confirmed that he would receive the prize and would come to Norway and he didn't look particularly happy."
After all, Obama has been President for barely nine months and yes, he has made some fine speeches in support of peace and bettering international relations. But was that enough to merit the award? Was he winning it more for who he's not -- George W. Bush -- than for who he is?
Sadly, much of the initial reaction in the United States was churlish and scornful, ill-informed, and frankly, as un-American as those of the knee-jerk right who cheered when Obama's quick trip to Copenhagen failed to win the Olympics for his Chicago hometown. We are less serious as a nation than we should be. The empty-headedness and inanity of much of the media and political response to the announcement bears testament to that unhappy truth. We would do better to see ourselves as others see us than to scream in protest and sarcasm when another part of the world wishes to honor our President and us.
But some of us sincerely felt that it may have been better for the President and the country NOT to have accepted the Nobel -- to have made a gracious speech of thanks but no thanks -- regretfully declining the award until he had proven himself worthy through actual deeds and positive signs of progress. If nothing else, it would have silenced at least some of the critics and given President Obama some breathing room to do what he says he wants to do without the restraints of even greater global expectations.
Take a look at the world around us, and America's place in it. President Obama talks the talk when it comes to climate change and nuclear arms control, curbing the atomic ambitions of Iran and North Korea, encouraging both harmony and diversity among the religions of the world. All well and good; even exemplary.
But little concrete action has been taken. For all the talk of closing our prison in Guantanamo, chances are that he will not meet his deadline of shutting it down within a year. Many of the transgressions on human rights that took place there and elsewhere in the name of a global war on terror continue, unresolved and unpunished.
He has spoken out for a two-state solution for Israelis and Palestinians but has made no progress, the window of opportunity slammed down on his fingers by Israel, with no help from Hamas. Our troops are still in Iraq, despite promises of significant withdrawals, and the Nobel announcement came in the midst of deciding whether or not to send even more American men and women into Afghanistan, where many of them may die. When told about Obama's new honor, an Afghan bank worker said to a reporter from the Los Angeles Times, "I'm not sure I understand. This isn't for peace here, is it? Because we haven't got any."
Better then to call this prize, as many have, including the Nobel committee, an aspirational award -- the committee expressing its own audacity of hope. As the President himself said, "I know that throughout history, the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes."
According to an article by political scientist Ronald Krebs in an upcoming issue of Political Science Quarterly, since 1971, the peace prize has been presented as just such an aspirational incentive 27 times. So the President is not alone. The head of the Nobel committee told reporters, "We do hope this can contribute a little bit to what he is trying to do."
Consider the prize encouragement, a vote of support for vision and inspiration, a recognition that after eight years of a unilateral, destabilizing imposition of American exceptionalism on the world there's an attitude adjustment working its way through our foreign policy. Dignity is part of it. So is humility -- listening to other nations instead of ordering them around with the bluster of a swaggering county sheriff.
The potential is there. Whether Barack Obama can overcome or solve the dilemmas he inherited -- or the crises created on his own watch by his own hand -- will be proof of whether good intentions can become reality or simply pave that infamous road to hell.
In 1961, another young president, John F. Kennedy, met with Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev at a summit conference in Vienna, Austria. It was a time when Cold War tensions between the two countries were high, just weeks after the failed, US-backed invasion of Cuba at the Bay of Pigs. Kennedy pointed to one of the medals on Khrushchev's lapel and asked what it was. The Lenin Peace Prize, said Khrushchev. Kennedy replied, "I hope you keep it."
Now Obama has received the Nobel Prize for Peace. The months and years ahead will determine whether he deserves to keep it.

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Show AllOf course, if President Obama had respectfully and humbly declined the award, his detractors would have vilified him for (a) apologizing once again for America instead of projecting strength, and (b) admitting he has no accomplishments of merit in his presidency so far. The surreal Rovian brand of partisan politics never lets up.
"admitting he has no accomplishments of merit in his presidency"
And what exactly are the accomplishments you see? I have seen nothing but a string of broken promises and an abdication of leadership. What exactly are the accomplishments you see that I don't?
He saved the country $3 trillion by not invading and occupying two more countries.
Obama demonized Iran during his "gracious speech"
Another ostrich article.
Demanding sanctions on a cooperating Iran, which has no known nuclear weapons program.
Continually escalatng AFPAK
Suppressing Goldstone Report
Approving of Gaza Holocaust
Attacking Somalia
Declaring USA state of emergency
Indefinite Detentions
Torture by request
Bagram replaces Gitmo
Continuing Renditions
No USA War Crimials Prosecuted
Heck of a job Barry
Are these ostriches still going to be defending Barry 10 years from now when there are 200,000 USA stormtroopers in Afghanistan?( I believe theres close to that now counting mercenaries,all invaders and the new 45,000 robokillers he is sending today.
I give Obama a B+ for speeches (after all, he's no Shakespeare or Lincoln) and big bloody F when it comes to the cause of world peace.
In fact, I would give Obama a much better grade for speech if he truly spoke from the heart, rather than the fork-tongued declamations we get from him.
Winship's reference to the Nobel as an "aspirational" award reminds me of some of those ludicrous "terrorist plots" that were "broken up" even though, as the FBI let slip in an all-too-apt phrase, the plots were "aspirational not operational," in other words these were a bunch of kids with excited plans to blow up things without a clue on how to accomplish them. Still, these arrests were designed to demonstrate the vigilance of our "homeland security" forces in protecting the security of the homeland and were either praised or passed off as normal "you can't be too careful" police vigilance. So exactly, we nay-sayers about the Nobel award may ask why Obama was given the award because of his good "aspirations" for peace rather than any effective "operational" moves in that direction. But the award served the same function as the "terrorist" arrests: to re-assure a half-sleeping public that the FBI was "on the case" of terrorism, that the Nobel committee was "on the case" of peace. This is the way bureaucrats of any stripe operate: finding ways of eliciting support by demonstrating that "we're trying" to do what they spectacularly fail to do: stop terrorism, bring peace, whatever.
I doubt anyone would be happy to accept an award that has made them the laughingstock of the world.
Consider how Obama would feel if he had to look into the eyes of Paul Rusesabagina when he was handed the prize...a man who truly deserved it, a man of proven courage and decision.
A senior writer would do better than this, if he were honest.
//President Obama's acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize did have an air slightly reminiscent of Lincoln's story//
Is that air important?
//"I looked at his face when he was on TV and confirmed that he would receive the prize and would come to Norway and he didn't look particularly happy."//
Is that look important?
//Now Obama has received the Nobel Prize for Peace. The months and years ahead will determine whether he deserves to keep it.//
Can you really not tell right now, today?
"Only time will tell..." is the most cliche way to end a piece. What are you thinking about?
There is only one thing Obama had to do, on day 1: To order American soldiers back home, and speak the truth about the lies that have contributed to the murder of countless innocent people during the past decade.
Let me add to this a couple of other criticisms of Winship's piece. He credits Obama for working towards "curbing the atomic ambitions of Iran." Not only is Winship perpetuating the oft-debunked (even by US intelligence) canard that Iran is striving for nuclear weapons, but he credits Obama's sabre-rattling posture with working towards "peace."
Next, he credits the prez for speaking out "for a two-state solution for Israelis and Palestinians," only to have "the window of opportunity slammed down on his fingers by Israel, with no help from Hamas." Now exactly what, I ask, has Hamas done to thwart our good commander-in-chief's oleaginously well-meaning efforts at getting the two sides to sit down and talk? As far as I know, all they've done is repeatedly state their willingness to negotiate. I guess to be more cooperative they would have to fire off some homemade rockets, just to make Israel's devious intransigence appear more reasonable. And what is this "window of opportunity" Winship refers to? Has anyone reading this thread seen any "window of opportunity" of late in the Israel-Palestine problem?
This is not just sloppy writing on Winship's part, though it's that, too. It's a disingenuous repackaging of the same old lies, even while pretending to be gently critical of the president from the "left." Give it up, Winship. You're only fooling those who want to be fooled.
Better then to call this prize, as many have, including the Nobel committee, an aspirational award -- the committee expressing its own audacity of hope.
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The BBC is reporting today that Obama has given Gen. Stanley McChrystal an early Christmas present: 45,000 troops with a plane ticket to Afghanistan.
Gee, that Nobel Prize really boxed Obama in, didn't it!
God....I hope that report is wrong. Surely it is. Has to be. Could this guy really be that venal? Surely, surely not.
Cygnus, like Henry8, I find your reference to a BBC report of Obama sending 40,000 additional troops to Afghanistant most alarming. However, I can find no reference to that on today's BBC website, could you give us a link there? Bad enough, though, or maybe worse, is the UK Guardian's report on Tuesday that 13,000 additional troops were being sent "quietly" (make that secretly) with the Pentagon saying that the decision to do that at about this time of year was made last March; but they never told anybody at the time. What other "quiet" escalating plans have already been or are in process of being made during the current "review" by a Nobel peace President as he drives us further into the Long War? With a military appropriations budget already passed for more than Obama had requested, maybe he DID make an additional request "quietly" and Congress quietly obliged.
UK Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/13/obama-afghanistan-troop-deployment
45,000 More U.S. Troops To Afghanistan
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23727.htm
Damn, damn, damn, damn!
Well, check out these latest comments from Obama. It seems he was miffed last night, and there's some self-pity going on, too, and this time he used a mop -- comments sure to become classics and the Obamabots are taking no time in attacking real progressives, who are seeing through this guy. With these words Obama seems to be painting himself as a "martyr for the cause," whatever cause that is, because it really doesn't seem to be the cause of 70% percent of the American people.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/16/obama-to-critics-dont-tel_n_323590.html
And if Obama didn't feel he was deserving of the Nobel Prize at this time it would have been honorable to decline.
Thats simply embarrassing. Keeping up the chatter about inheriting someone else's mess is getting old. And no one created his current mess except himself.
That's right, Obama invaded Afghanistan, Iraq, and deregulated Wall St. to topple the economy. It's all squarely on his shoulders.
Mr. Winship is not paying attention.
In his "gracious" speech of acceptance, Obama HAD to find a way to antagonize Iran. This would not be so significant if it weren't for what has been happening simultaneously and since.
At the time of the speech, Hillary Clinton was preparing to go to Russia to push (bribe) them into imposing sanctions against Iran. She has since gone there.
The House of Representatives (through Barney Frank-D) was crafting a bill (#1327) to impose sanctions against Iran through state and local governments. The bill passed a couple of days ago 414 to 6. ONLY three democrats (Kucinich, McDermott. and Hinchey) voted against it.
Today, Democracy Now reported that the administration is pushing to re-write the assessment from OUR intelligence community that Iran has NOT been pursuing nuclear weapons development since 2003.
FACT - There is NO evidence that Iran is attempting to build nuclear weapons.
FACT - All of the above actions are based upon the premise that Iran IS a nuclear threat.
The United States of America is escalating an economic war against Iran. This is almost exactly how we started the war of aggression against Iraq.
The administration and the congress now have, in the wording of the house bill 1327, that Iran IS a nuclear threat. The sanctions of the bill demand the cutting off of funds from nuclear power, oil, and natural gas, and associated materials and transport.
There is no mention of human rights. The purpose of the bill is to crush the Iranian economy.
The main difference with the aggression against Iraq is that this time, when the administration demands its right to attack with military force (probably from Iraq and Afganistan), there will be little international outcry.
CIA gives Iran a false assessment and Barry does not prosecute CIA war criminals .
Quid pro Quo
The Prize should be given to the individual who has done more for Peace (the absence of War) than any other individual. Frankly, given the weapons at his/her command and the continual decision not to use the worst of them, I'm surprised the POTUS doesn't win EVERY YEAR.
In pure, rational terms, Obama deserves the Peace Prize. Its a deserved choice, and its an absurd choice. The Nobel Committee is simply admitting that we live in an absurd world; one where promoting micro-loans, better crops, or native rights don't quite add up to the gift the POTUS brings to earth every day just by not being a crazy man. Obama wins by having a gun to everyone's head, and choosing not to pull the trigger. The Nobel Committee may have had loftier goals for the prize once upon a time, but then they went through eight years of Bush and 'found Jesus' right quick.
"Not pulling the tigger" ?????????
I guess all the dead and incinerated Afghans , Pakistanis and Somalians will have a difficult time refuting the above statement.
I won't defend Obama's actions in Afghanistan. But a year ago Russia invaded Georgia and threatened to invade the Czech Republic if we installed missile defense batteries there. Such an invasion would be an attack in NATO, who would have to respond militarily. Russia also put her nuclear forces on trigger alert and stationed a Destroyer in Cuba. Russia did all this because GW Bush pushed for missile defense and as soon as possible, deployed them on Russia's borders, claiming they were against Iran. Missile defense flies against every nuclear treaty we've ever signed. If Russia isn't protected from a first strike by MAD (mutual assured destruction), then they would be wise to touch off a nuclear war now, while they still could. Hence, by rushing into missile defense, Bush brought the world closer to the brink of nuclear war than anyone since Kruschev. Just the election of Obama defused this situation greatly, and Obama has taken actions that have defused it much more. Its horrible what's happening to the Afghans. But nuclear holocaust is no joke either.
"a year ago Russia invaded Georgia "
you've got that bass ackwards.
Time to move on from the peace prize. Its old news no matter what you think.
Its being reported that this year's Nobel Peace Prize winner is getting ready to send an additional 45,000 troops to Afghanistan.
To kill and maim and bomb in the name of Peace.
???
Thats what people should be out in the streets protesting not writing back in forth about whether Obama should have gotten the award a week later.
action people!
ps I did read a good analogy in regards to O getting the award.
"its like giving the award for literacy to an author because you think he is going to write a good book.
have a good weekend everyone!
I don't defend Obama accepting the Nobel Peace Prize and prefer that he give it back and ask them to wait another year or two before being handed one. But let's step back and ask ourselves if any of us would do the same on choosing to give back a prize you did not deserve. Most Americans are trapped in one form of "entitlement" or another and will accept any reward that makes them feel good even if they did not deserve it. 48 years ago, Kennedy represented a country that was not as selfish and mean spirited as it is today racism aside. I wasn't born back when he was shot but I don't know if he would have stopped this nation from being what it is today. Granted, there was plenty of racism to cause trouble but there was still room for generosity and sharing. Today, most of us choose to wrap ourselves in ignorance and "entitlement" and choose one of the two evils that makes us feel so good. We are human but I think that we have continued to push selfishness and entitlement too far and therefore deserve leaders like Bush and Obama who represent our moral bankruptcy.
It's spelled "mulatto", whippersnapper.
Evo Morales is President of a country of 9.8 million people, smaller than Cuba. On the world stage, he has much less influence towards Peace than President Obama. Perhaps you don't understand that the U.S. *causes* much of the violence the Nobel Committee is seeking to make a thing of the past... Just by electing Obama over McCain, the American people have made great strides towards a more peaceful world for a few years.
whippersnapper: someone who is unimportant but cheeky and presumptuous
You don't have to be young and male. That meaning was in 1700. Words evolve, as do societies.
I used the obsolete word "whippersnapper", because "mulatto" is obsolete, as well.
Since you are writing in English, it is "mulatto". If you want to write in the language of "where you live", do so.
What wars did Obama "start" ?
It's more like 60 million people - learn your history, slack-jawed squaw.
It's not a peaceful world, that's the point. And it can get worse.
I agree Evo Morales deserves honors, but not the Nobel Peace Prize. Maybe if he's elected President of South America, he'll get it.
And you can bitch about Obama, but if McCain was President, he might invade Bolivia, Ecuador and Venezuela to restore the "natural order of things". Don't think there aren't powerful forces in the US that want Central/South America to stay a docile, dictator-managed resource supply zone. In 6 months these people could whip up a story about secret shipments of uranium from Iran, and how we cannot allow these terrorists/communists to fester unchallenged in our backyard, and McCain would have nuclear cruise missiles off the coast of South America and coup's across the continent, if the Middle East wasn't doing the hard work of distracting the American Empire from you lazy asses. Why did it take 500 years to get someone like Evo into power in Bolivia ? The Iraqi's and Afghani's know how to organize and fight back, and the Persian's have dug in and fortified their country. Watch and learn, squaw.
What would indicate that the Nobel Committee wishes to make war or violence a thing of the past?
Certainly a prize for Evo Morales would go far further towards that end than awarding 0bama. So far I see no reason to believe the Nobel Committee would not have known that.
I have no more defence for McCain than for Attila the Hun or Custer, but I see no evidence that Americans have made any stride whatsoever toward peace by voting 0bama instead of McCain
-- to pretend for the moment that McCain would have been a logical alternative! --
Let's face it, 0bama has escalated and is freshly escalating the wars, the torture, kidnapping, the opacity, the loss of Bill of Rights protections for Americans and the ongoing non-compliance with Geneva Convention protections abroad.
0 has escalated American occupations and military spending OVER AND ABOVE Cheney administration levels.
McCain, hampered by a Democratic Congress and Senate, his more-visible delusions and a sock-puppet VP, might have done less damage.
According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize should be awarded to the person who:
“during the preceding year [...] shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.”
Alfred Nobel's will stated that the prize should be awarded by a committee of five people elected by the Norwegian Parliament.
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Evo Morales is a fine example of long awaited real "democracy" in Bolivia, but he is not in Obama's league when it comes to affecting Peace on the global stage.
Morales has done some good work towards integrating South and Central America countries, and trying to affect institutions in Bolivia so the plutocracy cannot steal power again, but Hugo Chavez has a much larger influence in these areas.
I don't think Obama is escalating the Iraq occupation: I think Iraq will move to kick out the Americans, and Obama will grudgingly comply, which McCain never would have (or McCain's puppeteers).
You clearly have no idea how easy it is for an American President to game the Intelligence and start a war. If McCain was President, war with Iran would be certain.
Obama is the best President that could have been hoped for with the ignorant American electorate in 2008. Face it. McCain would have been 4 more years of Bush.
Just remember one thing:
No country ever wants to be dominated by another:
the OVERRIDING US POLICY REMAINS: it goes beyond "sovereignty of" country that all countries wish for themselves.
the USA's OVERRIDING policy is Simple:
FULL SPECTRUM DOMINANCE, in ALL affairs..energy, political, economic, cultural , military and even "religious".
the USA often points to this or that "enemy to peace and stability"
such as "the ISLAMI CALIPHATE to take over the world"
such as "the terrorists"
such as "The COMMUNISTS"
such as "CHAVEZ"...
such as "CHINA"
such as "russia"
such as "iran"
as it WAS with "Saddam Hussein"
as it WAS with "the vietcong and dominoes and they will invade US".
as it WAS with any other tiny country THREAT you can name.
but what is common through all this?
it is the USA that has MEDDLED in THEIR affairs - and gone FARTHER than ANY nation ever WENT to THREATEN THEM than the other way around!
did the CHINESE COMMUNISTS send mercenaries or armies IN the USA ? NO -- it was the USA, under General Smedley Butler that INVADED them generations ago! thousands of miles away as a "threat to the american way of life"....looking for CHEAP labor markets...it goes on today of course...by WAL MART...
did the RUSSIANS INVADE the USA with ITS Businesses and Corporations? NO - it was the USA that INVADED the collapsed USSR in the 1990's divying up its gas and oil and other minerals for USA and "western" corporations
did the IRANIANS ever INVADE the USA or MEDDLE in its internal affairs to TOPPLE the US presidency? NO -- it was the CIA that did the opposite and STILL wants to...and even wants to BOMB BOMB BOMB Iran
WAS it ECUADOR that planted MILITARY installations to EXPAND ECUADOR'S influence? NO it was the USA that did THAT IN ecuador and other south american countries....
you go down the list
THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE for Obama will become the Albatross on his neck because NOW he has to either ACT towards peace genuinely - or not.
his actions have trapped him into doing the OPPOSITE of PEace.
it is WAR. which is the Underlying Philosophy of the United States of America.
it ranges from its capitalism which is ITSELF an ACT of war upon human beings ,and goes abroad in acts of war of economics, culture and politics and military extension.
Obama can't help himself - he HAS to be the WAR PRESIDENT as ALL US PRESIDENTS always have BEEN
because THAT is the NATURE of the United States of America
which, for all intents and purposes, even towards ITS OWN CITIZENS and residents
ALWAYS has been about MAKING WAR.
it EXISTS FOR WAR.
period.
"The American government has always maintained the right of its citizens to ship arms to belligerents. President Washington ... took this position when France protested against the sale of arms to England in 1793, the answer being that 'the exporting from the United States of warlike instruments and military stores is not to be interfered with.'" - Theodore Roosevelt's "Fear God..."p.160
This article expressed my feelings about all this garbage best.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15622
If kissinger could "win" this prize with all the blood he had on his hands, you know this prize is a sick joke that belongs in a book like Orwell's 1984.
Don't be so hard on the Nobel Peace Prize.
In 1973, when it was awarded to Kissinger and Le Duc Tho of Vietnam, two members of the five member Nobel Committee resigned in protest, and Le Duc Tho DECLINED the Prize, refusing to go accept it in Norway, because there was still no peace in his country.
Of course, Kissinger went to get his medal and money, because he was all about advancing the career of Henry A. Kissinger, no matter who gets killed...
True, the prize was "diminished" the year Kissinger won it.
But I wouldn't call it a "sick joke". Flawed, yes, but an Ideal that sometimes inspires in other years:
1989 - The 14th Dalai Lama
1991 - Aung San Suu Kyi
1993 - Nelson Mandela
1997 - International Campaign to Ban Landmines, Jody Williams
2001 - United Nations, Kofi Annan
2003 - Shirin Ebadi
2006 - Muhammad Yunus, Grameen Bank
2007 - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Al Gore
In a world of NBA Championships and Baseball World Series, it is good to shine the spotlight on some of these good people and organizations once a year.
It seems, I believe, that Michael Winship's article consists of unnecessary apologetics and criticism. Obama never really can be honourably awarded any peace prize for his U.S. presidency; not even if eventually comes to reverse his ways. He's already a war criminal, beyond any shadow of a doubt; an extreme war criminal, and definitely no better than GW Bush was when President, and remains for the rest of his life, as also applies to others, except they weren't assigned the title of "President".
Anyway, I made a post for several videos with and one article by Dahr Jamail, all very important resources, and the post appears in the following page. His article is of July 6th and is entitled, "U.S. Occupation of Iraq Continuing Unabated", which I expected well before July 6th. One interview video is from July 24th, and the other two, no, actually, the other three videos (5 in all, I believe), are for two presentations made in September, and another interview on, I believe, Oct. 11th. These are all important and provided real education.
If people are going to read articles by or listen to words by people who write like Michael Winship did in this article CD posted, then these people [must] view at least a few of the aforementioned videos with Dahr Jamail; definitely.
Link to go directly to the post.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/10/16-9#comment-1319961
And I do NOT believe that the Nobel Committee was really sincere, expressing real hope, audaciously or otherwise, etcetera. I believe it's mainly a scam and/or meant for distraction, or deception; more than for any other purpose. There surely was no real honesty on the part of this committee in offering the Peace Prize to Obama, imo.
The following article by Stephen Lendman provides a very good idea of the kind of people the Nobel Committee finds worthy of being awarded the Peace Prize, extreme criminals, very evil people; while refusing to grant the prize to four-time, no, three-time nominee Kathy Kelly, and other truly deserving people.
"October Surprise: Peace Prize to a War Criminal",
by Stephen Lendman, Oct. 12, 2009
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15636
"Obama and the Nobel Prize: When War becomes Peace, When the Lie becomes the Truth",
by professor Michel Chossudovsky, Oct. 11, 2009
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15622
We can of course find articles by other people providing a critical reason for the Nobel Committee having bogusly acted, [again], in choosing to make Obama a Peace Prize award "winner".
The Committee evidently has a much higher value for extreme criminals, than it does for real peace-and-justice workers; but the Committee must allow some of the latter to occasionally get the prize, ya know, for the sake of public apparence. Make the public think you're right in some cases, and then it's easier to believe that the public will always think you're right, the rest of your rogue days.
teddy
**did the CHINESE COMMUNISTS send mercenaries or armies IN the USA ? NO -- it was the USA, under General Smedley Butler that INVADED them generations ago! thousands of miles away as a "threat to the american way of life"....looking for CHEAP labor markets...it goes on today of course...by WAL MART...**
well said but walmart is just kid's stuff
"U.S. big business wants it both ways with China. Boeing wants to sell its planes there. Intel wants it to buy computer chips. Philip Morris wants to market its cigarettes. But they all want to diminish China as a world power, tear pieces off if they can, and make sure that china’s modernization does not strengthen its socialist state property. It’s the job of President Clinton and the foreign policy establishment to facilitate commercial relations with China while also letting the Pentagon, the cIA, and the other agencies of imperialist aggression do their thing."
substitute clinton with the name of any prez and the above would still be true.
tinyurl.com/66dur4
YOU HAVE BLOOD ON YOUR HAND, MR PREZ OBAMA, NOBEL PISS PRIZE WINNER 2009 !!
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