Obama Returns to Bush Era on Guantánamo
Two distressing pieces of news emerged last week regarding the Obama administration's plans to close Guantánamo, and both were delivered by Defense Secretary Robert Gates in testimony to the Senate Appropriations Committee.
Discussing what would happen to the remaining 241 prisoners, Gates announced that the question was "still open" as to what the government should do with "the 50 to 100 - probably in that ballpark - who we cannot release and cannot try." He also announced that the much-criticized military commission trial system, suspended for four months by Barack Obama on his first day in office, was "still very much on the table."
Both admissions indicate that when it comes to Guantánamo, it is beginning to appear that the much-vaunted change promised by Barack Obama on the campaign trail has actually involved nothing more than imposing a closing date on Guantánamo while maintaining the Bush administration's approach to the men still held there.
Back in Bush's day, for example, those "who we cannot release and cannot try" were sometimes referred to as those who were "too dangerous to release but not guilty enough to prosecute" - essentially because the supposed evidence against them was the fruit of torture or other abuse.
As someone who has studied the story of Guantánamo and its prisoners in detail over the last three years, I'm aware that much of the information compiled by the Bush administration for use against the prisoners at Guantánamo was obtained through torture or coercion and is, therefore, unreliable, and that other, equally unreliable information was secured through the bribery of other prisoners.
As a National Journal investigation revealed in 2006, one prisoner, described by the FBI as a notorious liar, made false allegations against 60 prisoners in Guantánamo in exchange for more favorable treatment, and in February this year the Washington Post published the sobering tale of another informant, whose copious confessions should have set alarm bells ringing. In both cases, however, there is no indication that the officials responsible for compiling the information examined by the president's review team have acknowledged that a substantial number of allegations against the prisoners are actually worthless.
Moreover, the defense secretary's talk of 50 to 100 suspicious prisoners (above and beyond those regarded as demonstrably dangerous) is at odds with repeated intelligence assessments reported over the years, which have indicated that the total number of prisoners with any meaningful connection to international terrorism is between 35 and 50. To this should be added the recent revelation by Lawrence Wilkerson, Colin Powell's chief of staff, that "no more than a dozen or two of the detainees" held in Guantánamo ever had any worthwhile intelligence.
In addition, the defense secretary's talk of reviving the military commissions is a distressing development for the many critics of the novel trial system invented by Dick Cheney and David Addington, who hoped that the administration would resist all calls to reinstate them, and would, instead, move the relatively few prisoners regarded as genuinely dangerous to the mainland to face trials in federal court.
However, on Saturday, after speaking to Obama administration officials, the New York Times reported that, despite declaring that, as president, he would "reject the Military Commissions Act," and stating that "by any measure our system of trying detainees has been an enormous failure," President Obama was indeed considering reviving the commissions.
As the Times described it,
Administration lawyers have become concerned that they would face significant obstacles to trying some terrorism suspects in federal courts. Judges might make it difficult to prosecute detainees who were subjected to brutal treatment or for prosecutors to use hearsay evidence gathered by intelligence agencies.
As a result, they said, decision-makers were considering whether to tinker with the rules regarding the use of coercive interrogations and hearsay, in what the Times described as "walk[ing] a tightrope of granting the suspects more rights yet stopping short of affording them the rights available to defendants in American courts."
The "tightrope" analogy, though apt, is also something of an understatement. Almost universally derided in their seven-year history, the commissions demonstrated, above all, that inventing a legal system from scratch was a poor substitute for respecting the laws which have served the Republic well for over 200 years.
Nor can it be claimed that the federal court system is incapable of dealing with terrorism cases. As was explained in a 2008 report by Human Rights First, "In Pursuit of Justice: Prosecuting Terrorism Cases in the Federal Courts" (PDF), over 100 terrorism cases have been prosecuted successfully in the federal courts in the last 15 years.
Moreover, last Thursday, as Robert Gates was telling the Senate that the military commissions were still "on the table," the Justice Department was taking a very different line in the case of Ali al-Marri, a legal U.S. resident who was held in extreme isolation for nearly six years without charge or trial as an "enemy combatant" in a U.S. naval brig, until he was returned to the federal justice system by the Obama administration.
As al-Marri accepted a plea agreement and admitted that he had been sent to the United States as an al-Qaeda "sleeper agent," Attorney General Eric Holder announced that the result "reflects what we can achieve when we have faith in our criminal justice system and are unwavering in our commitment to the values upon which this nation was founded and the rule of law."
To remove the stain that Guantánamo has left on the reputation of the United States as a nation founded on the rule of law, Mr. Holder's words should be repeated to him every time that the administration attempts to turn back the clock to the days of George W. Bush, with its dangerous talk of finding new ways to justify holding prisoners without charge or trial and its willingness to revive a trial system despised as nothing more than a "kangaroo court."
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31 Comments so far
Show AllMisleading title based on misunderstanding the language. And a slight misreading of our political climate.
Guantanamo will be closed by the end of the year. That's distinctly different from the previous misAdministration.
And the problem with what to do with the prisoners is not the Courts, it's the political firestorm that the Riech has waiting if Obama tries to bring them into this country.
Our Courts can handle just about anything that's dragged in, including Oklahoma City. But the Bushies, obviously figuring that they'd never go in front of an American Judge, botched the cases (if ever there were cases). All of these trials would be thrown out because of mistreatment and torture, the GITMO inmates would be set free, regardless of whether they were dangerous or not. That's the price that Prosecutors and Law Enforcement pays when they violate procedure, Inadmissable Evidence. It's the price we all pay for protection against tyranny, that occasionally the guilty must be set free so that the innocent are not unfairly condemned.
But the Media and the Wingnuts will frame it as "Obama turned the Trrrrrrrrsts loose on America". And they will hammer that theme for the next several decades, that "Libruls Hate America, they turned Trrrrrrrrrsts loose on our soil....."
And that's not just unpleasant namecalling. It will be used, as the resistance to the Viet Nam war was used, as a rallying cry of the Riech to bring them back to power.
Daddy O'Bamba won't change our diapers fast enough.
In one of my posting identities, I was banned for saying that Obama was going to have the same Guatanamo policy as Bush.
Right, as always.
CD just doesn't like the truth.
well as the terrorists should not be treated as simple criminals instructions should be given to our best and bravest to take no prisoners--no need for Gitmo then. BHO has come face to face with reality--these are evil people bent on destroying the US and they cannot just be released
Prove it.
reagan80 says, " BHO has come face to face with reality--these are evil people bent on destroying the US and they cannot just be released."
How do you know these are "evil people bent of destroying the US..."? Because the people who lied us into war SAY so? Or because the government was able to obtain "confessions" through torture? How many "evil" things will be in your "confession" after a few sessions with the torturers?
What exactly have these "evil people" DONE? We don't know. All we have is unsubstantiated hearsay, torture-induced confessions, and the lies of government and military officials who are traitors to the Constitution they swore to uphold and defend. We don't know that these "evil people" we are holding are even "bent on destroying the US," which I guess would be a thought crime. When did thinking become a crime?
In any case, these hapless "evil people" are victims of our flagrant human rights abuses, and must be freed, with huge monetary compensation. If they are "bent on destroying the US," let them go for it. They can't do a better job than the Bush administration, with the help of their Democratic sympathizers, have done already.
"flagrant human rights abuses"--on average --weight gain of 20-25 pounds per detainee--special dietary meals--basketball and tennis courts--sounds rough--if you would read who in fact these "innocents" are (and don't you find it interesting that no other country, including the detainees home countries don't want them back--must be because their pillars of the community)they are not innocent goat herders--confirmed jihadists seeking the return of the caliphate and world domination under sharia law--wake up
More water boarding if it protects the US--which by the way there waas not another attack for 8 years after implementation--I wonder what the interogations revealed that enable the Bush administration to protect you.
Teerorists do not fall within the protections of Common Article 3 nor are they afforded Constitutional protection--they deserve exactly what they have been given which in my opinion is far to lenient
What's next, cancelling the closing of GITMO?
Has Hapeus Corpus ever been restored to the USA, or are you still an authoritarian nation?
"The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts." - John Keats
Still authoritarian. If we don't have ya more corpses in a minute, it's not for lack of spending on wars.
If the government feels the guantanamo detainees were guilty enough to be detained , then the government should give them a fair trial. The question is what are the detainers hiding from? No human should be left in limbo. Charge and try them, or release them.
If the government feels the guantanamo detainees were guilty enough to be detained , then the government should give them a fair trial. The question is what are the detainers hiding from? No human should be left in limbo. Charge and try them, or release them.
Kucinich will never leave the Democratic Party. His district funders are not independent minded enough to support him as their Rep without being on the Dem ticket. He would lose a lot of priviledges he has obtained so far under the Dems, and that would mean essentially that the left wing has no representation on any committees to even tell us how we are being screwed.
With 14% considering Nader in the summer of '08 and now 30% considering "Socialism", I think we should stick to our chosen 3rd party leader.
When Obama was picking all the rightwingnuts for his administration, the true Obelievers said that the people he picked were not as important as him, as he would make them do his bidding.
Well, he has either never been able to control his administration or he is having them do exactly what he wants them to do.
The question is, when will the Obelievers wake up and realize that the con man snookered them big time?
About ten weeks after they vote him in for a second term.
Maybe we can start a pool.
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Given that Mr. al-Marri was kept in "extreme isolation for nearly six years without charge or trial," which is torture, and that he was probably tortured in other ways, too, how does his accepting a plea agreement reflect "what we can achieve when we have faith in our criminal justice system and are unwavering in our commitment to the values upon which this nation was founded and the rule of law"????
Until we let ALL our prisoners in Guantanamo and Bagram go free, with our apologies and monetary damages based on the length of their false imprisonment and torture suffered, there is no "rule of law" in the U.S. Until the Bush administration and their enablers in the Democratic Party are brought to justice and have to "tell it to the judge," there is no "rule of law" in the U.S.
Unless we're talking about the two-tiered "justice" system that lets the well-connected get away with mass murder, theft, torture, and treason, and incarcerates the rest of us for victimless crimes.
I had the same thought; Holder's citing the al-Marri case as proof that "the system works" is pathetic and deplorable-- even considering the standard defense that Holder is speaking not only to intelligent and enlightened citizens, but must also constantly reassure and appease reactionary wingnuts and yahoos.
Besides, the Obama administration is about as "unwavering" as a windsock in a typhoon.
"Obama Returns to Bush Era on Guantánamo". Returns? For all practical purposes, we've never left the Bush Era.
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Obediant Servant sez: "'Obama Returns to Bush Era on Guantánamo'. Returns? For all practical purposes, we've never left the Bush Era."
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That headline struck me as odd, too. During which of the preceding 100-plus days was O'bomber somewhere else?
This is not an encouraging development, but is just one more of the disasters that GWB and Co left behind. Part of the reason some campaign promises are not kept is that complete knowledge of the situation is not available until taking office. President Obama cannot possibly fix every problem immediately and it is naive to expect that. It took eight years of mismanagement to get us in this predicament, it will not all be corrected in eight months.
At least Obama is not using the old cut all government services and cut more taxes on the rich solution while spending more on the military that has worked so well in the past.
Part of the reason some campaign promises are not kept is that complete knowledge of the situation is not available until taking office.
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Gee, I guess politicians are so eager to get in there and show what they can do that they lose sight of such common-sense caveats and make all those promises anyway!
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Part of the reason some campaign promises are not kept is that complete knowledge of the situation is not available until taking office.
Or maybe the MoFo's just flat out lie. Seems to be the case here.
I never had any more faith in Obama than I did in Bush or McCain. Both parties are totally treasonous and will only give their money to those candidates at least as treasonous and compromised as they are. Obama told liberal democrats pretty much what they wanted to hear in order to secure their vote. But he is just as much a puppet, maybe more so, than McCain. Both major parties are totally committed to globalism, neither gives any more thought for a machinist in Detroit or a tekkie in Silicon Valley than they do for a goat herder in Iraq.
It's time to say "No!" to both Republicans and Democrats and come together in a single third party that supports the Declaration of Independence, the United States Constitution, and of course the Bill of Rights. Dump the major parties and stand up for your rights...before they dump a major pandemic on us for real and finish the controlled demolition of our republic and our economy and our liberties. And please, please, please get off this Climate Change religion! Climate Change is just the left's excuse for a global prison planet. The War on Terror, the War on Climate Change. Give me a break already.
How about a "We the People Party"? And we draft Kucinich to run as prez in 2012. Of course, after a new investigation of 9/11, WE the People may have to start over totally.
And please, please, please get off this Climate Change religion! Climate Change is just the left's excuse for a global prison planet. The War on Terror, the War on Climate Change. Give me a break already.
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Climate Change RELIGION? WAR on Climate Change? Global PRISON Planet?
Are you on your meds or off?
This dude's been zombied by Alex Jones, a major climate change denier.
And some people in here have been zapped by Zionists, major Jesus deniers ;) Read UN Agenda 21 and get real.
Now there's relevance for you. As people struggle through their feelings about antisemitism to straightforwardly condemn Israel's horrors in Gaza, here's an actual antisemitic comment.
Without irony, are you serious?
Huh? Now Agenda 21 is anti-Semitic too? It is anti-liberty, which is what all Americans should be concerned about.
As for national Israel and its neighbors, they are all said to be Semitic peoples. So what are you suggesting?????
Getting back to Obama and torture, it's not just Obama/Bush's anti-human torture policy that should worry Americans. It's everything in his playbook. There is no "Change" here at all. The major contributors to both parties, by far, are the same finance czars who just demanded, and received, over $12 trillion dollars from America's future generations. Nader has documented this repeatedly without refutation. If you don't smell scam by now what does it take?
Forget the Dems and Republicans. Let's get real and form our own pro-American party that represents our interests and the interests of future American generations. As for national Israel and their neighbors, they are in a very tough situation. But that is an old, old, very old story with theological underpinnings. Each nation must carry its own load. Right now the United States can't even do that.
Moreover, last Thursday, as Robert Gates was telling the Senate that the military commissions were still "on the table,"
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Now I understand...
...Impeachment of Bush and Cheney was OFF the table because the table was being used for waterboarding.
Now that Obama has put an end to waterboarding the military commissions are back "on the table",...once the table has fully dried.
Good observation, Cygnus ...
The table is also used for passing money under.
It's a multi-purpose table; it's just not an all-purpose table.
I hope Keith Olberman reads this. He should have Worthington on his show.