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Punishing the Palestinians
In the long sixty-year tortured history of the Palestinian expulsion from their lands, Congress has maintained that it is always the Palestinians, the Palestinian Authority, and now Hamas who are to blame for all hostilities and their consequences with the Israeli government.
The latest illustration of this Washington puppet show, backed by the most modern weapons and billions of taxpayer dollars annually sent to Israel, was the grotesquely one-sided Resolutions whisked through the Senate and the House of Representatives.
While a massive bombing and invasion of Gaza was underway, the resolution blaming Hamas for all the civilian casualties and devastation-99% of it inflicted on Palestinians-zoomed through the Senate by voice vote and through the House by a vote of 390 to 5 with 22 legislators voting present.
There is more dissent against this destruction of Gaza among the Israeli people, the Knesset, the Israeli media, and Jewish-Americans than among the dittoheads on Capitol Hill.
The reasons for such near-unanimous support for Israeli actions-no matter how often they are condemned by peace advocates such as Bishop Desmond Tutu, United Nations resolutions, the World Court and leading human rights groups inside and outside of Israel, are numerous. The pro-Israeli government lobby, and the right-wing Christian evangelicals, lubricated by campaign money of many Political Action Committees (PACs) certainly are key.
There is also more than a little bigotry in Congress against Arabs and Muslims, reinforced by the mass media yahoos who set new records for biased reporting each time this conflict erupts.
The bias is clear. It is always the Palestinians' fault. Right-wingers who would never view the U.S. government as perfect see the Israeli government as never doing anything wrong. Liberals who do not hesitate to criticize the U.S. military view all Israeli military attacks, invasions and civilian devastation as heroic manifestations of Israeli defense.
The inversion of history and the scope of amnesia know no limits. What about the fact that the Israeli government drove Palestinians from their lands in 1947-48 with tens of thousands pushed into the Gaza strip. No problem to Congress.
Then the fact that the Israeli government cruelly occupied, in violation of UN resolutions, the West Bank and Gaza in 1967 and only removed its soldiers and colonists from Gaza (1.5 million people in a tiny area twice the size of the District of Columbia) in 2005. To Congress, the Palestinians deserved it.
Then when Hamas was freely elected to run Gaza, the Israeli authorities cut off the tax revenues on imports that belonged to the Gaza government. This threw the Gazans into a fiscal crisis-they were unable to pay their civil servants and police.
In 2006, the Israelis added to their unrelieved control of air, water and land around the open-air prison by establishing a blockade. The natives became restless. Under international law, a blockade is an act of war. Primitive rockets, called by reporters "wildly inaccurate" were fired into Israel. During this same period, Israeli soldiers and artillery and missiles would go into Gaza at will and take far more lives and cause far more injuries than those incurred by those rockets. Civilians-especially children, the infirm and elderly-died or suffered week after week for lack of medicines, medical equipment, food, electricity, fuel and water which were embargoed by the Israelis.
Then the Israeli bombing followed by the invasion during the past three weeks with what prominent Israeli writer Gideon Levy called "a brutal and violent operation...far beyond what was needed for protecting the people in its south." Mr. Levy observed what the president of the United Nations General Assembly, Miguel d'Escoto Brockmann called a war against "a helpless and defenseless imprisoned population."
The horror of being trapped from fleeing the torrent of the most modern weapons of war from the land, air and seas is reflected in this passage from Amira Hass, writing in the leading Israeli newspaper Haaretz:
"The earth shaking under your feet, clouds of choking smoke, explosions like a fireworks display, bombs bursting into all-consuming flames that cannot be extinguished with water, mushroom clouds of pinkish-red smoke, suffocating gas, harsh burns on the skin, extraordinary maimed live and dead bodies."
Ms. Hass is pointing to the use of new anti-civilian weapons used on the Gazan people. So far there have been over 1100 fatalities, many thousands of injuries and the destruction of homes, schools, mosques, hospitals, pharmacies, granaries, farmer's fields and many critical public facilities. The clearly marked UN headquarters and UN school were smashed, along with stored medicines and food supplies.
Why? The Congressional response: "Hamas terrorists" everywhere. Sure, defending their Palestinian families is called terrorism. The truth is there is no Hamas army, airforce and navy up against the fourth most powerful military in the world. As one Israeli gunner on an armored personnel carrier frankly said to The New York Times: "They are villagers with guns. They don't even aim when they shoot."
Injured Gazans are dying in damaged hospital corridors, bleeding to death because rescuers are not permitted to reach them or are endangered themselves. Thousands of units of blood donated by Jordanians are stopped by the Israeli blockade. Israel has kept the international press out of the Gazan killing fields.
What is going on in Gaza is what Bill Moyers called it earlier this month - "state terrorism." Already about 400 children are known to have died. More will be added who are under the rubble.
Since 2002, more than 50 Arab and Muslim nations have had a standing offer, repeated often, that if Israel obeys several UN resolutions and withdraws to the 1967 borders leaving 22 percent of the original Palestine for an independent Palestinian state, they will open full diplomatic relations and there will be peace. Israel has declined to accept this offer.
None of these and many other aspects of this conflict matter to the Congress. Its members do not want to hear even from the Israeli peace movement, composed of retired generals, security chiefs, mayors, former government ministers, and members of the Knesset. In 60 years these savvy peace advocates have not been able to give one hour of testimony before a Congressional Committee.
Maybe members of Congress may wish to weigh the words of the founder of Israel, David Ben-Gurion, years ago when he said:
"There has been anti-Semitism the Nazis Hitler Auschwitz but was that their [the Palestinian's] fault? They only see one thing: We have come here and stolen their country."
Doesn't that observation invite some compassion for the Palestinian people and their right to be free of Israeli occupation, land and water grabs and blockades in the 22 percent left of Palestine?
194 Comments so far
Show AllZionism = Nazism.
I couldn't have said it better - and I have said exactly that many, many times.
Comparisons of Zionism to Nazism = Antisemitism.
I believe zionists are a subgroup of Jews and christians. One may dislike zionists in particular and like Jews in general. zionist hide behind Jews because otherwise they would be totally exposed.
you are correct. i have met many jews and counted many of them as friends whom i respect -- and who would have nothing to do with Zionism.
in fact -- i just spoke to an old gentleman -- a jew who survived the Holocaust...and was tortured by the fascists and nazis when he was a teenager in europe...and while he was speaking to me about the events in Gaza -- he tears were flowing down his face uncontrollably - saying
"YES -- THIS is a HOLOCAUST perpetrated by Israel with the the help of the United States.....WHEN will it ever stop? we said : 'never again'...and yet here it is FROM israel and the USA. and this is all about economic injustice and inequality as it was the case in europe using jews and others as scapegoats..."
he was literally shaking and in tears as he spoke....i could not say anything to address his great pain....
teddy,
Of course, yes, it should be obvious. Not all Jews are Zionists.
This should come as no surprise. How is it different than a Native American who disrespects their ancestral legacy? How is this different from an African-American who is ashamed of the color of their skin?
Many of us have lost all connection to our people and our heritage.
Many of us have been taught to hide our Jewishness or to hide our love of Israel.
I say: no more!
Jews should openly love Israel.
This is our homeland. We are refugees. We are the children of Israel.
Why should we be ashamed of this simple truth? Why can't I be proud of who I am and where my people came from?
To compare the Israel/Palestinian conflict to haShoah is obscene.
6 million Jews were murdered. That is more than the population of Gaza and the West Bank combined. How can you make this comparison without feeling ashamed of yourself?
Jews should openly love Israel
Nationalism is a problem for all people, but nationalism for a land some of your ancestors left 2000 or more years ago is insanity - group insanity. The nostalgia for a past lost land giving "right of return" after 2000 years is crazy - a craziness easily exploited by the British and now the US empire.
My ancestors came from France hundreds of years ago - they too were refugees...The descendents have kept knowledge of the story alive but none of us have ever thought of going back to claim some of France - perhaps because no-one wrote it down as scripture.
I just listened to a public radio program for all religions that dealt with the attachment some people have to land from countless generations ago. They were saying it didn't matter how long ago their ancestors were there, the sense of belonging is timeless. Well the program used a couple of interviews of people whose grandparents originated from somewhere else and how the person interviewed now feels a special affinity to the old "homeland". Then they interviewed a Jewish person from Israel who claimed some special affinity across 2000 years that they feel.
Firstly, notice that the interviewer was a Jewish person with non publicised Zionist sympathies.
Secondly, I feel NO special affinity to any place I used to live as a small child or where my ancestors once lived. Yet I am often considered an empathetic, fairly sensitive and spiritual person. The absolutely last thing I would ever want is to return to live somewhere I even lived in myself in the past if it would displace someone else who was now well established in that place. The selfishness of doing that is so obvious to me I wonder if Zionists live on the same planet as me - I fear not. Sometimes they seem so self-centred that I wonder if they are psychopaths i.e. without any sensitivity to feelings of others who are not their own people.
"To compare the Israel/Palestinian conflict to haShoah is obscene"
The title "Israel/Palestinian conflict" is obscene. This is no conflict - it is a MASSACRE! And it it OBSCENE.
The trouble is when you claim "exceptional" status for your Jewish forefathers' suffering, you can't see it when it is happening in front of you. When Jews were lined up and shot as the Nazis advanced into Ukraine how different is that from using the anonimity of using 100 pound bombs and rochets on Gaza gauranteed to kill the innocent in huge numbers. When thousands of protesting youths were shot and killed in the first Intifada against their occupation, how different is that? Rubber bullets used by the IDF can blow your brains out, but saying "rubber" makes it sound benign. The IDF would not have shot rubber bullets if they were Jewish youth who were protesting. It is the same as The Holocaust...i.e. the Protesting Palestinian youths were killed because they were Palestinians.
When 4 Kent State students were shot by their own troops during the Vietnam war it nearly actually stopped the war, there was so much outrage. Yet when Lt. Calley was convicted for the massacre of hundreds of Vietnamese, he was released. That too was like the Holocaust...killing them because of who they were. The Holocaust was not the only killing because of who they were and Jews should stop claiming an exceptionalist status for it.
One Jewish scholar spoke out today at a rally protesting against the actions of Israel in Gaza. He got huge ovations throughout and in conclusion. Many of the demonstrators I know are Jewish - both secular and religious. The Palestinians of Muslim or Christian faiths are happy to work together with the many activists who do not hide or disrespect their Jewish ancestry at all. The speaker told about his parent who survived the Death camps.
Jan, it is great that you are a reasonable person willing to listen to other opinions.
What was done in Gaza will ultimately do Israel in, and that is sad for such long-suffering people. Most of child abusers were abused as a child, is that what is happening here, the abused is abusing (unfortunately abusing someone else).
For heavens sake, if you are part of that community, raise your voice, stop the blind support of a regime that kills other people without blinking. Please do so, beg of you.
Isreal can only survive if it makes peaces with its neighbors, just peace. Mark my words on this.
As Lieberman (the knesset member, not the US strange one) said recently, soon Hamas /Hezbi missiles will reach dimoa, tel aviv, and more. What do you expect from the other side, when they have been subjected to such massive killing and humiliation.
No, what's anti-Semitic is your equation of this sort of strong criticism of the Israeli government's brutal actions with anti-Semitism. It is a slap in the face to the millions of Jewish people all over the world, including in Israel and the US, who are outraged and horrified by the Israeli government's wanton, criminal violence.
You are dead wrong according to the head ghoul, Theo Herzl the "best friends of the zionists are the ant-semites."
The zionists are the scourge of the Jews. Are Jews any safer? I don't think so, anywhere you find zionists you find anti-semitism.
Sophie Scholl-The Final Days
Zionism and Nazism are both extreme nationalisms.
Calling such comparisons "Antisemitism" is part of the Nazi like campaign of creating fear in people so that they won't speak their mind about Israel. Another such tactic is to call people "Un American" or "unpatriotic", but "antisemitism" is a much worse label.
Call someone "antisemite" and it is meant to stop them having any further part in a public debate. This blackmail is held over American politicians by the Zionist lobby and is why the American Congress has no other viewpoint other than total support for whatever Israel does.
The backlash against America is hurting already. The misguided freedom Israel feels because of how the "antisemistist" label can shut people up, is causing self-destructive over-confidence in Israel. Israel acts like it could get away with doing a bombing run on any of its neighbours. Or it always wants US to attack Iran, Iraq or Syria etc
Oh yea Hitler was really for a Jewish State, LOL! The idiots that bark this line all work for Iran. The people running Iran now they're we have a bunch of Nazis in pajamas.
51 Documents:
Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis
http://www.counterpunch.org/brenner1223.html
do your homework!
Sophie Scholl-The Final Days
ISRAELI you're an idiot. Zionism = Nazism is about their behaviour not about whether Hitler believed in a Jewish state or not. But now you mention it Hitler may not have minded all the Jews in some other place so long it wasn't in his place...He did first try to deport the Jews to anywhere but where he ruled, or didn't you know that.
The people running Iran seem to be fine with the Jews living there for as long as anyone can remember.
Your understanding is as poor as your English: "pajamas", "they're" etc.
It wasnt the palestinians fault--and it wasnt modern Europeans' fault either.
Get over it.
I guess that's not going to happen anytime soon--just wait for the Holocaust showcase called the Oscars.
Once again we will be told never forget.
Congress is bought and paid for. Plus there are too many jews who may not live in israel but they still like the idea of a home country, so even if they are logical on other issues, they have this blind spot.
The tribalism mentality. We have to side with our own.
Its like the blind spot that lets people say they are against capital punishment for the most despised criminals but they are ok with vivisection, meat eating and hunting.
They let fuzzy ambiguous notions of tribal solidarity blind them to consistency in justice and fairness.
In that Jews make up 1.7% of the US population, how is it possible that such a small segment of US society has gained so much power?
Because the rest of u are idiots. :)
Not idiots, gullible maybe, USAers sure have been lied to a lot, by their government and by their press, I think they are capable of learning, and what they are learning does not bode well for Israel, I'm afraid.
Sophie Scholl-The Final Days
Right, it is hard to explain... In fact, it makes no sense...
Hmmm...
Maybe because it's not true!
Ever consider that maybe Jews don't control America?
Of course, Mel Gibson disagrees. He says they control the entire world.
It is the AIPAC and Arms industry money. It is not the number of people it is the AMOUNT of money. Remember zionists and USA imperial fascists are the problem not the Jews.
Exactly!
Sophie Scholl-The Final Days
glenn ford,
I'm sorry, but to be blunt, you are suffering from unbelievable ignorance!!!
AIPAC is not registered as a Political Action Committee and so they can't give money directly to candidates.
Also, AIPAC does not tell its members to give money to political candidates or PACs.
I don't think anyone on this page actually understands this. So let me repeat:
AIPAC is not registered as a Political Action Committee and so they can't give money directly to candidates.
Get your facts straight, otherwise it's little more than antisemitic libel.
For me, it’s difficult to understand why anyone, especially Progressives, would be hostile toward AIPAC or Israel. Our argument is that an unfettered and antagonistic Palestinian nation poses an existential threat to Israel. On the other hand, Israel supports Palestinian statehood and does not pose an existential threat to Arabs, Islam, or any Muslim nation.
If Israel had the power to destroy the Palestinians, would it?
They do. And they haven't.
If the Palestinians had the power to destroy Israel, would they?
Thank don't (thank G*d). But they have said quite clearly that they would if they could.
What is G*d? Not in my dictionary.
.http://www.stopaipac.org/
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
AIPAC has helped to set up many pro israeli PACs and through them it contributes to Congress many Senators have received $250,000 -- $500,000 total during there carreers.
Yes, unfortunately that 1% is the very vocal zealot minority. The ones with the $money, the ones who pressure US congressmen and women, who send faxes.
The other side is not as determined and vocal, unfortunately.
I wouldn't call it simply bias or bigotry--what we have is clear out racism against Arabs, both in the US and Israel. It is reinforced through the media, TV, film, and--at least in Israel--educational material that children receive in schools. The fact that even liberals contribute to this racism and are muted by the Israeli rightwing is a sad commentary on American politics. It's also totally unnecessary from a purely strategic position, because there are many progressive academics, peace activists, and reporters within Israel who are strongly critical of their government.
http://donnasaggia.wordpress.com/
Sadly, you are right. If this were happening to any white population around the world (the Balkans for example), it would not be tolerated. Why are the Palestinians not worthy of compassion? They bleed red like everyone else.
This genocide will result in many more deaths in the future, which the attackers cannot seem to comprehend.
Actually, in the Balkans, the outrage was very selective as well.
It was the Croatians, than the Kosovo-Albanians, who did most of the ethnic cleansing - of Serbians, not the Serbians.
---USAn---
It is a crusade; bush initially called the Iraq war a crusade until he was informed it was not politic. And remember they started calling it Operation Iraqi Liberation (until they realize the acronym was OIL)
I have long admired Mr nadar and would have voted for him in all his presidential bids. He well knows that the US electoral rules have to be reformed. His reasonable approach however does not go far enough for me. Its a bit like the new mantra coming out in British and EU tv from slightly embarrassed diplomats that taking sides and name calling is not the way to approach this.
There is another way. Call for War Crimes to be initiated. Break off diplomatic relations with israel. Deny them favoured status in the EU (they have broken rthe conditions repeqatedly anyway as usual) boycott disinvest and sanction. If necessary enforce a breaking of any blockade on Palestine. Insist all UN resolutions are complied with by Israel and that it alone compensates for the damage caused by their destruction through aggresssive wars. Close all US military bases in the EU. Call on NATO countries to reject its alliance with the USA. Call for reform and more democratic process for the international community in the UN. A return to International law. Reject American and European empire building. Call for an equitable diplomatic distribution of the planets resources. Reject the use of violence except in the most extreme circumstances. Place human rights and worker rights at the center of all policy making. Bring criminals to Justice especially those in democratic states. Israel has no right whatsoever to exist, without borders and without aggreement of the native population and their descendants. It is a pariah state that endangers us all. It must be disarmed of offensive weapons now. Otherwise, it is a major danger to mankind and it will succeed in its aims to create hatred so it can go on expanding and killing. The West pays for it anyway. We buy our own destruction as Bin Laden was accused of doing but on a scale like that between Hamas and the Israeli Governing military. We will all end up contaminated not only with shame and complicit guilt but with radiation burning our children to dust.
The USA supports terrorism. It is full of these Zionist monsters. Many jews reject this as one should expect. Many Christians and Muslims too. Mr Nadar should at this late and final stage use his undoubted discerning mind to come straight out and attack the right of a Jewish State to exist when this jewish State is presently constructed Israel. Born on deceit and terror it has never stopped expanding with the support of such bastions of rights like Egypt, The PLO, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. But at least they have recognised borders and aren't occupying foreign lands. Now have the Palestinians a right to exist and if so where? Surely they have a right to decide where they should exist outside the UN mandated territory that was 'given' by the UN. Surely they too have a right to decide who their leaders are especially in the light of experience with the PLO and Israel, their near neighbours and the western political elites who chose to abandon them to Zionist's predations. And to afford Zionists almost complete support to murder and rob them? And contrary to such a reasonable approach should we not all have realised by now and through this particular 'in your face' slaughter of a weakened desparate population of 1.5m people without water or a passport that dual citizenship for Jews abroad is a joke. We pay for this. They are bribed to enjoy the fruits of theft and degradation of natives. They engage in exporting terrorism all across the planet. They have infected the USA to such an extent that even reforming your electoral processes doesn't address this. The same to a lesser extent applies in europe. Cynically they have exploited the holocaust. It is a criminal offence in certain european countries to question the narrative even for academic research. This is ridiculous. Jews in europe have the same rights as any other citizen and proper order. Many Jews reject Zionism and the actions of Israel. But many supporters of Israel freely gain a great deal of exposure on the mass media and they are well represented in High places across the major democracies. They are a white collared pernicious bunch of fascist racists and they gain such power? How is this possible? Should it no tbe pointed out that it is they themselves who indulge in anti-semitism. And yet that is properly against the law. The ones who do it are the ones who claim to be most concerned 'lest it rear its ugly head agin'. Think about that a while. They must be opposed head on by Jew, Muslim, Christian or by anyone who believes in freedom liberty and equality. There can be absolutely no compromise whatsoever. It is based on lies fog intractible deceit and theft, bullying racist superiority lust for power an dominance and enjoys fleecing us their sheep. Much stronger considered comdemnation of this State is required now. Zionists should be removed from the middle east immediately, purged in europe and the USA and sent to hard labour in Gaza to rebuild what they have destroyed. They they should be chain ganged into Lebanon and Iraq to do the same. After a generation of so they should be allowed to return from whence they came to rebuild their lives as equal free citizens in Palestine or wherever they decide to go. They are criminals and their leadership are too. War crimes and immediate rejection of Zionism is the least that should be required by a return to UN resolutions outstanding being implemented fully. Any country or people that support their agenda are ignorant or criminals in essence. Outright condemnation and rejection is called for since 1948.
Lbanus,
Ralph has repeatedly called for 911 and war crime investigations, to no avail. Ralph was among the first to call the Iraq invasion illegal. Ralph Nader is an activist for the common citizen, not a beltway insider; so it's unreasonable to say he doesn't do enough.
Then you asked:
"Many Jews reject Zionism and the actions of Israel. But many supporters of Israel freely gain a great deal of exposure on the mass media and they are well represented in High places across the major democracies. They are a white collared pernicious bunch of fascist racists and they gain such power? How is this possible?"
Your question is one of the greatest secret riddles of anthropologist worldwide. Thoughout millenia, on hundreds of occations, Jews have intertwined themselves inside foreign corridors of power and wealth only to be "purged", as you say, when the Berrnie Madoff-type excesses became too great for the population to bear. All twelve of the Federal Reserve Board members were Jewish, and they controlled every dollar the U.S. government produced. Now, this greed has plunged all Americans into a great depression, which has essencially wiped out the middle class.
As I have good Jewish friends, I believe the answer to your question is breeding. They breed for intelligence. They endevour to secure the smartest offspring by mating with those families who have smart offspring. At dinner time they are some of the most charming, delightful, insightful people to be around. But when alone, they have an all-knowing gaze with each other when the subject devolves to world finance or media/motion picture dominance. "We are part of a very special club" I was told when I put your question to them. My question after Gaza is: Is it a club or a mafia?
As for the rest of your diatribe, you describe what "should happen" what is right, etc from presumably a very Arab point of view. You're from the Middle East? Try to keep in mind that there are still good Jews here, and that there still good Americans who condem the criminal behavior of the Bush Administration. We can only do so much. But we know that for America to continue to behave as Rome once did, is not in the best interests of anyone.
I love America, and will not rest until her domestic enemies (corporate communists) are behind bars.
Ralph is taking the right approach to get us there in my opinion.
You actually advocate the creation of labor camps? And then you say that Zionists should be expelled from every nation-where will they go after the labor campls or will they just have to labor for the rest of their lives?...You pretty much just said that all Zionists should be killed. Who's the Monster now?
I agree that the law in several European nations that criminalize denying the Holocaust is silly but those nations don't have the strict freedom of speech that the US has. It is presumptuous to tell them they need to change their laws. Further it is ridiculous to deny the Holocaust under any pretense-the fake argument of doing it under research is a joke!
Why must the US remove it's bases from the EU? Germany has stated they want Rammstien Air Force Bases to remain where it is for one...who are you to tell what Germany and the US are allowed to do with each other?
I see an awful lot of anger in your writing. I want to tell you that hate filled rants will never cause people to change. If you want to see your belief's followed through then you must calm yourself and be rational. To make a demand that Israel must be destroy is a conversation ending remark...
Sioux Rose
There will come a time Israel will realize it should have gone for the 2002 "peace" accords as offered by its neighbors. I feel the same pain for this conflict as I do for all the others now underway. In each case, an aggressor takes advantage of a less well-armed people. War and aggression are a disease a cancer equipped with weapons that stun the imagination for the harm they can and will do. Human beings must become so utterly repulsed by these dark powers that they never set them loose on ANY person EVER again. No exceptions, U.S. included. This bonfire to the aggressive vanities I pray will be the final denouement of the long play in which Mars ruled.
1,100 Palestinian deaths so far? And there were, what, 3 Israelis killed by Hamas rockets?
The lack of proportionality alone in this Israeli attack is sickening and sadistic, and will insure ever-more hatred of Israel and a more intensely-felt resolve among Palestinians to retaliate. The cycle of violence there is guaranteed to continue. The U.S. is also put at greater risk of retaliatory attacks because our government supports these atrocities. And, my tax money is paying for this!!?
Once again, we owe Ralph Nader a debt of gratitude. Oh, for a President Nader.
We should all print this article and send it to our congress-persons, along with a letter demanding that Congress act to stop the killing now.
I believe before this invasion started; during the length of this ceasefire from June 2008. Hamas rockets killed exactly one israeli, a student.And that death was after months of blockade and a small invasion ( do not use the propagandist's word"incursion" because it is to similiar to incision a neccessary medical procedure) which resulted in extra-judicial execution of six Palestinians.
chet380
"In that Jews make up 1.7% of the US population, how is it possible that such a small segment of US society has gained so much power?"
Check this out Chet.
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/01/17/the-international-jew-by-henry-ford/
Yuck, Blackfeather.
Even among 1.7% of a Nation's population, perhaps only 1% of that are arsholes and could be said of any group of people.
I still believe it is time to revoke the UN mandate for Israel that was issued in 1948. Israel ignores all UN mandates that it doesn't like, well, I do not like the one that established Israel on the land of the Palestinians.
Kitty Lady
Great comment, Kitty Lady. I support you completely. Israel has reached its use-by date! It does not deserve to exist.
israel and the USA have failed their community of nations or should I say semblance of humanity test.
.Perhaps you might enlighten us as to what other nations you see as deserving of elimination? Thankfully there are those with perspective who understand the issue is about ending the treatment of one nation against a people deserving of respect and their own homeland and not determining which countries deserve to exist and which do not.
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
irsael does they bomb the UN and anybody else who stands for truth and justice.
A little history to back up your post:
http://www.williampfaff.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=369
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
Nothing on this planet has the legal power to do what you suggest, declare a state to no longer exist. Read a little bit about sovereignty and the international system before you suggest something so foolish.
Of course the Palestinians must be punished! They have been hanging around for sixty years and despite occupation, massacres and sieges, they just don't get the message that Israel doesn't want them around.
Look I know you might argue that Israel has every right to have an ethnically pure state, one that is for Jews only, and that Israel has every right to enlarge that state if it wants to even if that involves stealing land from other, and that Israel is right to use any means to get rid of the Palestinians including genocide, phosphorous shells, collective punishment, etc, but if you argue that these actions are right and proper then clearly you are an amoral moron!
There is a new American Icon! What is it?
www.dangerouscreation.com
I'm sorry? Criticise? Why? It's the Israelis and you should know they are ALWAYS right (chosen people, don't you know). Besides, they need to keep to 100:1 ratio up somehow...... Isn't there also research that shows that Gazans, like fish, don't feel pain? AND - don't forget that Gazans, well, you know, just as whales and apes and dogs are SOCIAL, that doesn't make them HUMAN... and if they WANT to stay where they're so obviously not wanted, it's their lookout - same on the West Bank - they should know that rampaging gangs of SettlerTeens have all the rights they need and just move.. aren't arabs traditionally nomadic? - they should just Nomad the F### out of Israel. Actually they must be really stupid if they don't get the hint, what with the road blocks, the bombings, having their farms uprooted, their kids stoned on the way to school, untreated sewage from hilltop houses flow down to them.. yeah - since they are so palpably stupid, they don't deserve a place to stay. It's evolution - even the Neanderthals took less time to get rid of.
The German TV-station n24 spreads the following on 2006-12-14 using the title 'Iran's President calls the Holocaust a myth': "The Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has stepped up his verbal attacks against Israel and called the Holocaust a 'myth' used as a pretext by the Europeans to found a Jewish state in the center of the Islamic world . 'In the name of the Holocaust they have created a myth and regard it to be worthier than God, religion and the prophets' the Iranian head of state said."
The Iranian press agency IRNA renders Ahmadinejad on 2005-12-14 as follows: "'If the Europeans are telling the truth in their claim that they have killed six million Jews in the Holocaust during the World War II - which seems they are right in their claim because they insist on it and arrest and imprison those who oppose it, why the Palestinian nation should pay for the crime. Why have they come to the very heart of the Islamic world and are committing crimes against the dear Palestine using their bombs, rockets, missiles and sanctions.' [...] 'If you have committed the crimes so give a piece of your land somewhere in Europe or America and Canada or Alaska to them to set up their own state there.' [...] Ahmadinejad said some have created a myth on holocaust and hold it even higher than the very belief in religion and prophets [...]
The President further said, 'If your civilization consists of aggression, displacing and oppressing nations around the world, suppressing justice-seeking voices and spreading injustice and poverty for the majority of people on the earth, then we say it out loud that we despise your hollow civilization.'"
The Washingtonian ''Middle East Media Research Institute' (MEMRI) renders Ahmadinejad's statements from 2005-12-14 as follows: "...we ask you: if you indeed committed this great crime, why should the oppressed people of Palestine be punished for it? * [...] If you committed a crime, you yourselves should pay for it. Our offer was and remains as follows: If you committed a crime, it is only appropriate that you place a piece of your land at their disposal - a piece of Europe, of America, of Canada, or of Alaska - so they can establish their own state. Rest assured that if you do so, the Iranian people will voice no objection
In another IRNA-dispatch (2005-12-14) the Arabian author Ghazi Abu Daqa writes about Ahmadinejad: "The Iranian president Ahmadinejad has nothing against the followers of Judaism [.
..] Ahmadinejad is against Zionism as well as its expansionist and occupying policy.
That is why he managed to declare to the world with courage that there is no place for the Zionist regime in the world civilized community."
Foot Note
What ever happened to all the Inhabitance of small nations of the now called Americas North South and Central.
The indigenous peoples of the Caribbean Islands, Australia, New Zealand, South Pacific, ARE THEY NOT PEOPLE TOO , CHILDREN OF THE PLANET EARTH, OR ARE THE JEWISH PEOPLES THE ONLY ONES A CRIME HAS BEEN COMITTED UPON
It was the western nations that committed all these horrendous crimes, and it was the western nations that always committed crimes against the Jews culminating with the Germany’s final solution.
Africa : The Western Powers Slave Continent
India : The Pinnacle of British exploitation of humans for 300 years
China : Collective Western Brutal Aggression against china with the culmination of loss of
millions of Chinese lives at home and abroad
What did Hitler have to do with These Crimes Against Humanity that the Western Powers Propagated around the world with such brutal efficiency, or are these acts Barbarous only when pertinent to Western Europeans?