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Congratulations, Corporate Crime Fighters! Coup Averted for Three Days! ...From Michael Moore
Friends,
Everyone said the bill would pass. The masters of the universe were already making celebratory dinner reservations at Manhattan's finest restaurants. Personal shoppers in Dallas and Atlanta were dispatched to do the early Christmas gifting. Mad Men of Chicago and Miami were popping corks and toasting each other long before the morning latte run.
But what they didn't know was that hundreds of thousands of Americans woke up yesterday morning and decided it was time for revolt. The politicians never saw it coming. Millions of phone calls and emails hit Congress so hard it was as if Marshall Dillon, Elliot Ness and Dog the Bounty Hunter had descended on D.C. to stop the looting and arrest the thieves.
The Corporate Crime of the Century was halted by a vote of 228 to 205. It was rare and historic; no one could remember a time when a bill supported by the president and the leadership of both parties went down in defeat. That just never happens.
A lot of people are wondering why the right wing of the Republican Party joined with the left wing of the Democratic Party in voting down the thievery. Forty percent of Democrats and two-thirds of Republicans voted against the bill.
Here's what happened:
The presidential race may still be close in the polls, but the Congressional races are pointing toward a landslide for the Democrats. Few dispute the prediction that the Republicans are in for a whoopin' on November 4th. Up to 30 Republican House seats could be lost in what would be a stunning repudiation of their agenda.
The Republican reps are so scared of losing their seats, when this "financial crisis" reared its head two weeks ago, they realized they had just been handed their one and only chance to separate themselves from Bush before the election, while doing something that would make them look like they were on the side of "the people."
Watching C-Span yesterday morning was one of the best comedy shows I'd seen in ages. There they were, one Republican after another who had backed the war and sunk the country into record debt, who had voted to kill every regulation that would have kept Wall Street in check -- there they were, now crying foul and standing up for the little guy! One after another, they stood at the microphone on the House floor and threw Bush under the bus, under the train (even though they had voted to kill off our nation's trains, too), heck, they would've thrown him under the rising waters of the Lower Ninth Ward if they could've conjured up another hurricane. You know how your dog acts when sprayed by a skunk? He howls and runs around trying to shake it off, rubbing and rolling himself on every piece of your carpet, trying to get rid of the stench. That's what it looked like on the Republican side of the aisle yesterday, and it was a sight to behold.
The 95 brave Dems who broke with Barney Frank and Chris Dodd were the real heroes, just like those few who stood up and voted against the war in October of 2002. Watch the remarks from yesterday of Reps. Marcy Kaptur, Sheila Jackson Lee, and Dennis Kucinich. They spoke the truth.
The Dems who voted for the giveaway did so mostly because they were scared by the threats of Wall Street, that if the rich didn't get their handout, the market would go nuts and then it's bye-bye stock-based pension and retirement funds.
And guess what? That's exactly what Wall Street did! The largest, single-day drop in the Dow in the history of the New York Stock exchange. The news anchors last night screamed it out: Americans just lost 1.2 trillion dollars in the stock market!! It's a financial Pearl Harbor! The sky is falling! Bird flu! Killer Bees!
Of course, sane people know that nobody "lost" anything yesterday, that stocks go up and down and this too shall pass because the rich will now buy low, hold, then sell off, then buy low again.
But for now, Wall Street and its propaganda arm (the networks and media it owns) will continue to try and scare the bejesus out of you. It will be harder to get a loan. Some people will lose their jobs. A weak nation of wimps won't last long under this torture. Or will we? Is this our line in the sand?
Here's my guess: The Democratic leadership in the House secretly hoped all along that this lousy bill would go down. With Bush's proposals shredded, the Dems knew they could then write their own bill that favors the average American, not the upper 10% who were hoping for another kegger of gold.
So the ball is in the Democrats' hands. The gun from Wall Street remains at their head. Before they make their next move, let me tell you what the media kept silent about while this bill was being debated:
1. The bailout bill had NO enforcement provisions for the so-called oversight group that was going to monitor Wall Street's spending of the $700 billion;
2. It had NO penalties, fines or imprisonment for any executive who might steal any of the people's money;
3. It did NOTHING to force banks and lenders to rewrite people's mortgages to avoid foreclosures -- this bill would not have stopped ONE foreclosure!;
4. It had NO teeth anywhere in the entire piece of legislation, using words like "suggested" when referring to the government being paid back for the bailout;
5. Over 200 economists wrote to Congress and said this bill might actually WORSEN the "financial crisis" and cause even MORE of a meltdown.
Put a fork in this slab of pork. It's over. Now it is time for our side to state very clearly the laws WE want passed. I will send you my proposals later today. We've bought ourselves less than 72 hours.
Yours,Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com
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Show AllGreat discussion on today's "Democracy Now" with Robert Johnson, former chief economist of the Senate Banking Committee, and Bruce Marks, the founder and CEO of NACA, the Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America.
(and they played "Sin City" by the Flying Burrito Brothers during one of the station breaks too, ... way cool.)
While Congress is standing around picking their noses, and scratching their butts, I'm going to write a letter to Sen. John McCain, who's been so successful helping us resolve this crisis, and ask him to have his good friend Phil Gramm, slip a provision into the bill at the last moment, that will change the motto on American currency from that wimpy "In God We Trust", to one that more accurately reflects the state of the nation. I suggest a phrase that Sen. McCain, as a decorated veteran and all of our brave fighting boys can appreciate, and get behind. "FUBAR!" (it's derived from the ancient Latin expression "Fugus Bi Arses" which loosely translated means...oh shit!. Speaking of which, I think I had a few too many prunes this morning, so I got to run, and take a bush. I hope there's still some copies of the Constitution in the outhouse. The newspapers are all gone, and I had to use all the corn cobbs to make bio-fuel to heat the tent this winter.
P.S. Please forgive the levity during this serious crisis, but it seems like the only thing the government has left me with, is my dog, and my sense of humour (and obviously, that ain't none too good either,.... and the dog has fleas).
Remember the final scene in "Treasure of the Sierra Madre"?
P.P.S. For you folks listening in out there in Fort Hauchuca, I can save you a little time. My name's already on the list. Check page #1,248,736. It's about a third of the way down the page. See it? Right there between the two Newmans, Alfred E. & Paul L. (what an honor!)
What if financial armageddon doesn't come?
What if it should all have come down in a big crashup last week, and various free market companies started thinking their way around the problem?
This idea that "all credit in the world" would suddenly dry up, makes as much sense as Johnny Carson talking in 1973 about the gas shortage and announcing on national TV with a straight face (during his comedy monologue) that the next shortage would be a toilet paper shortage. This gag would have gone unnoticed except thousands of people panic-bought all of the nation's toilet paper, and the toilet paper factories needed months to catch up.
Maybe "credit" is just something any bank, no matter how small, can give to anyone honest (but not to anyone dishonest). It's a free market product. You can give your best friend credit if she needs it and will pay it back. Given a free market for credit, banks worldwide will seek to fill that market. How fast? Watch them!
The only problem is that many of the hugely rich banks have been a house of cards for a year, and many rich people are stuck with the bill. Is this a problem?
And don't forget the not-so-comedic monologue about plastic and duct tape just before one of our invasions that made those items scarce.
I say, slow down, take a deep breath and just think (for a change).
6. This bill offered no spending cuts or budget re-prioritizing to offset the $8,000 PER TAXPAYER bank robber "bailout" costs. Only lies about how the taxpayer could profit from the sale of "toxic assets" most admit they neither understand nor are able to value... though the word "toxic" should be sort of a major f**king clue as to what they hell We The Taxpayers are "buying."
Which doesn't quit fit the definition of "change we can believe in." If BO were a real "leader," he would have seized the moment and led the charge for the cutting and shifting of monies BEFORE more was printed to save the criminals.
Note to MM: try to remember this - yea, this bill was defeated temporarily, but We The Taxpayers didn't have a vote when it came time to "bailout" J.P. Morgan Chase, Bear, Fannie, Freddie, the money markets or foreign banks to the tune of over $2 trillion - or $16,000 PER TAXPAYER - so far just this year.
So as Larry David would say: curb your enthusiasm. It's clear the bank robbing cartel is gonna get what they want one way or the other...
I'm glad MM is finally on board, but, I'd like to know where he's been the last several weeks? Shilling for his latest film, or on his knees in front of the democrats & Obama? Maybe both?
I'm sure his allegiance will shift again over to the Banksters and criminals in congress.
We shall see.
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Keep calling the bastards!
Obama---(312) 819-3008
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Steny Hoyer---(202) 225-4131
Pelosi---(202) 225-4965
And call your Representative and Senators.
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Mr. Moore are you still supporting Obama? If so, you're a hypocrite. Obama is for the bailout. Not only is he for it, but according to Kucinich on Democracy Now, Obama's also making sure that no provision for any type of bankruptcy negotiation that could be determined by judges in favor of foreclosed homeowners is attached to the bill.
That's perverse and demoniacal. Let's not forget that Biden was a major force behind the corrupt bankruptcy law passed in 2005, designed by the credit card companies to stab consumers in the back and twist the knife many times over.
Can't you see that you Dem Party Apologists are the real problem?
It still comes down to McCain vs. Obama, Not Obama vs. Nader.
However, I think Obama came down on the wrong side on this one.
"Bailout includes no bankruptcy aid for homeowners
The Wall Street rescue deal does not include a provision allowing judges to revise loans on primary residences.
By Tom Hamburger, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
September 29, 2008
Americans who take out loans to purchase cars, boats and even investment properties can file for bankruptcy protection and have a judge restructure their payments. But that's not the case with their home mortgages. Since 1978, bankruptcy laws have prohibited judges from adjusting loans on a "principal residence."
Some Democrats had called for the bailout bill to change bankruptcy laws to permit such restructuring as a way to offer something for Main Street America.
But those proponents -- major labor unions, consumer groups and other pillars of the Democratic Party establishment -- proved no match for a coalition that included the American Bankers Assn., the Mortgage Bankers Assn. and the National Assn. of Home Builders.
Starting with a core of Republicans who adamantly opposed any such change, the coalition persuaded key Democratic leaders in Congress that pushing the idea could doom the rescue effort and endanger the whole economy.
So successful was the effort to portray the bankruptcy idea as a deal breaker that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, while campaigning in Florida last week, said he thought the proposal was meritorious but did not belong in the emergency bailout bill.
Some analysts saw Obama's statement as a practical recognition of political reality: Republicans would never accept the bankruptcy provision, and the bailout plan was too important to the economy to jeopardize. The Illinois senator's position drew cheers from business and banking lobbyists and from Republicans.
Consumer and labor advocates consider Obama a friend, but his statement rankled. They say that current law has made it more difficult for homeowners to work their way out of difficult financial straits and that a change in the rules would have eased the crisis for all concerned."
Full story at:
http://www.latimes.com/business/investing/la-fi-scrub29-2008sep29,0,2890645.story
"It still comes down to McCain vs. Obama, Not Obama vs. Nader.
However, I think Obama came down on the wrong side on this one."
Agreed on both counts.
While we may have to pony up some money, I have to ask where the hell the sum of $700 billion came from? I mean, who pulled that number out of who's hat? Why not $200 billion or $550 billion or some other number? Just asking...
I really didn't have any grasp on what all this meant or what the bailout was really for, and I don't think too many people really understood it. Hell, members of Congress didn't even have time to read the bill! Kudos to Kucinich and all those who voted against this (excepting my rep, Tom Allen, who traded in his conscience for a rubber stamp when he entered Congress). This needs to be completely transparent before it passes!
Something must be done to protect the people or my answer is hell no - today, tomorrow, next year. NO!
That was the same thing I heard in 2000, that it was about Bush and Gore. Ignoring Nader and his voters cost Gore the election back then and hopefully will cost Obama the election now.
And Obama came down on the wrong side on this one? Oh really, *only* on this one? What drug are you Dem Party Apologists on? Obama came down on the wrong side on the FISA bill, on the war funding, on drilling, etc. you name it.
And fyi, consumer and labor advocates don't consider Obama a friend. He picked Biden for running mate, you know, one of the major players behind the bankruptcy bill, which was written by the credit cards companies and stabbed Americans in the back in 2005. Stop being a fool.
tutti-fruiti sez:
"Ignoring Nader and his voters cost Gore the election back then and hopefully will cost Obama the election now."
Glad to see you admitting you want Obama to lose.
Let's see who does that leave?
Oh yeah, Gramps & Barbie.
ctrl-zany: Gramps & Barbie or Obama bin Biden will result in the same disaster for Americans.
Why do you Dem Party Apologists and Lesser Evilists can only think in a flat, 2-dimensional way? Repeat after me: Democrats and Republicans are one and the same.
Tetti tatti
Bingo. You nailed it.
tutti-fruiti
You followed up a nice "Obama bin Biden" with the hackneyed "Dems & Repubs the same."
Try to be original throughout.
And no, it doesn't count that 'Err-oll the Bottom' liked it. He's under almost every anti-Obama poster, singing praise.
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Nader says...
"Wake up Americans! Cut the crap and take over."
VOTE NADER/GONZALEZ 2008… You’ll be glad you did and so will I…
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So the fear mongers are telling us that credit will dry up. Maybe this is true if Main Street continues to do business with these casinos cleverly disguised as investment banks. Maybe this is true if Americans continue to invest in hedges and derivatives that have no intrinsic value.
I spoke with a couple local credit unions this morning. They are doing business as usual and have money to loan for mortgages and cars. They are member owned (by definition) and hold on to their mortgage paper rather than sell it.
This may be a crisis for Wall Street, a crisis for corporate America, a crisis for Bush's cronies, but don't let them scare you into thinking Main Street will go down in flames. And don't be scared into believing that we must act now. It's no coincidence that this "crisis" and the "solution" were promoted by Bush & Co. just days before Congress was to recess.
Responsible economists have proposed a number of solutions; many include elements such as federal investment in infrastructure projects, relief for people with mortgages, regulatory reform, insurance, etc.
Keep the heat on your Representatives and Senators. We had a dramatic effect by engaging and letting Congress know, in no uncertain terms, that this bailout in any form is unacceptable. Keep calling and writing with the same message. And encourage Congress to take a deep breath and develop a financial program that is good for the country and not just an attempt to sustain the unsustainable for a few more weeks while rewarding the gamblers who made bad bets.
And do business locally with institutions like credit unions that put profits back into the communities they serve.
Michael...Are you now ready to admit that you were wrong for not supporting Nader - or are you waiting till we are all jobless, homeless, and the USA has declared war on Norway?
Growing up in the 50s, we could get credit, with no interest, at our corner grocery store. It was great for the neighborhood and great for the store owner. Neighborhoods helped the city to prosper. Everything was going along OK. You still believed that you could do better than your father and that hard work and honesty would be rewarded. In the 60s many windows of opportunity opened. New and relevant social and political issues were being advanced. It was a chance for the country to really grow and learn. But what entered those windows of opportunity didn’t come from the neighborhoods. It came from the boardrooms of corporate America. They sent in greed and his brother, corruption. And called it deregulation, and compassionate conservatism. The result is that the city is dying now because the neighborhoods are mostly dead, because the credit is long gone, and the beliefs were shattered along the way.
Hoa binh
Well put. But we will restore it if we can remove the radicals from power and keep the other radicals from getting it.
I don't particularly care for Mr. Moore usually because as an idealogue he usually goes to the extreme. That does not mean he doesn't make good point's.
And I have to agree with his points here. Though he is wrong to advocate for any bail out bill in my opinion. His pork will be just as tasteless as theirs.
"The Democratic leadership in the House secretly hoped all along that this lousy bill would go down. With Bush's proposals shredded, the Dems knew they could then write their own bill that favors the average American"
Mike:
Why are you a Democratic Party Shill? No really why? It doesn't make sense. The Democratic Party doesn't share your values. Is there something you're not telling us? Do you have a crush on Obama? Why does Wall Street need any Bailout?
Top Obama Contributors
Goldman Sachs $691,930
University of California $611,207
Citigroup Inc $448,599
JPMorgan Chase & Co $442,919
Harvard University $435,769
Google Inc $420,174
UBS AG $404,750
National Amusements Inc $389,140
Microsoft Corp $377,235
Lehman Brothers $370,524
Source: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638
Instead of harping and reharping this point over and over, why don't you suggest a viable alternative.
How boring to revist Obama's acceptance of money from huge donors. Does this money gurantee that Obama is just another corporate slave? I think not.
Clinton was on the take from corporations too. But at least he seemed to care a little bit about the little guy. Obama will be even more in tune with the little guy.
Okay, Obama is no Ralph Nader, but I wouldn't put it past Obama to invite Nader into the oval office.
I'm making an exception to my "Don't respond to Trolls" policy, on second thought no, you need to try harder.
Agreed. The single-minded harping solves nothing, nada.
Maybe, just maybe, we're giving these people much more importance and power than they really have. Seems to me that the place where the rubber really meets the road is the everyday work that we do as citizens. To whit: Congress did not vote down the bailout bill of their own accord, they voted it down because citizens finally stopped sending misdirected missives long enough to tell THEIR representatives what they want in a very clear way.
Obama is not evil incarnate and Nader is not the embodiment of perfection, so can't we please get past this point?
Here's a viable alternative: Let's get real and get busy doing the work we're supposed to do - as citizens. Do we want it? It's right there - let's take it!
Very persuasively stated that Obama is wedded to the titans of Wall Street.
The above comment was directed to Green Retirement's comment at 2:16 pm
The Corporate Crime of the Century was halted by a vote of 228 to 205.
I e-mailed my 'thank you' to my congressman yesterday.
But, like Arnold says, the words "I'll be back" keep ringing in my ears...
Another Apocalyptic Shtick
'Apocalypstick' for the republican rose looks good
on a Barbie Palin or ‘mission accomplished’ doll/action figure
just a good strong stick unlike Cheeney's
more like Halliburtons upticks
or General Dynamics freedom sticks
and portfolios with missed cluster bomb opportunities
the warfare stick that makes our nation tick
You can be the second dick without one
Just stick with the timed out John
the experienced one with practical jungle time
spreading agent orange or napalm
to clear the peasants for a Johnny run
a 'wag the dog' one of dumb bomb sticks from another quagmire.. Johnny's pride
as songbird fly sticks or curly fly licks
keep the lies off the dung heap of empire
as it readies the world for a new partially clothed leader
the all in one pale in one.. one
The paleface pride of the north a family head like Amadinejad
the celebrity mom one but please keep her mum
just keep her pictured with stalwart leaders like Uribe or Kiss of death in ger
and Johnny the for/four strikes one
Let's sell the road to nowhere
to the enamored few
or to a gentile or a jew
Please keep that road to nowhere well oiled and ethically clean
Keep it away from that Putin team or those Mullah queens
or the chosen few who may prefer tolls and check points
Check points to nowhere
like fallen Johnny angel prophecy
Michael Moore can complain about the financial crisis, but he won't do the one thing that needs to be done to fix it. Support someone who wants to correct it. Mr. Moore still supports Obama who is supporting the corporate elite first and foremost.
Obama talks about protecting the middle class, which is a good election gimmick, but the democratic party no longer talks about protecting the poor.
Why doesn't he hope that Wall Street corrects itself instead of handing them over 700 billion dollars.
I have make many bad investments, I collect books. Hope someone bails me out.
While I admire Moore for many of the things he has done with his movies, this is not the time to be blindly cheerleading for someone who doesn't represent the public's interest.
Vote Third Party, vote Nader, Vote Green.
www.NotOneMore.US
"Michael Moore can complain about the financial crisis, but he won't do the one thing that needs to be done to fix it. Support someone who wants to correct it."
Vote Don Quixote. He hasn't got a chance but what an idealist!
... or you can vote for a life of corporate slavery. It's up to you.
Obama took some money from the corporations. Does that mean he is Mr. Fascist all of a sudden? Get your head on straight people. Obama is the best possible candidate yhat has a chance of winning.
The "best possible?" I don't think so. There were/are other possibilities but the corporate media is scared to death of even hinting to the general public that they exist. Dennis Kucinich was a great possibility. One of the few Democrats that really is for the people. John Edwards was good too. Nader's not bad. Cynthia McKinney is still running. There are other possibilities also, some good, some bad, some on the lunatic fringe. The "best possible" mentality = lesser of two evils. If I wanted something like that I'd vote for Cthulhu, because why settle for a lesser evil? And change is not enough either. We will have change come January 20th: a change of name on the door and the mailbox. I, however, want improvement! And I don't see Barack Obama, and certainly not John McCain, as the instruments of improvement. Vote third party on the whole ballot: local, state and federal. That's change/improvement I can believe in!
Kucinich rocks, I agree. But he is not taken very seriously by the masses or, for good reasons, the corporate press. Kucinich or Nader would stick it to the corporations.
Nevertheless, the BBC polls suggest that worldwide, 80% of the people want Obama to win. I doubt the world even knows who Nader or Kucinich are.
For America to elect someone that popular and a minority who (even if only slightly) favors worker's rights over corporate profits, this is a huge step forward for the country. Why can so few "progressives" see this?
Vote the [alleged] agent of hope and change. He does not have not a chance if he is elected president of offering any hope to the Afghans and Pakistanis who will again feel the pain of seeing more American soldiers entering their countries and killing more innocent civilians and children. But so many of idealistic Americans continue to believe that Obama will change things!
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/09/25-1
by Ralph Nader
Congress needs to show some backbone before the federal government pours more money on the financial bonfire started by the arsonists on Wall Street.
1. Congress should hold a series of hearings and invite broad public comment on any proposed bailout. Congress is supposed to be a co-equal branch of our federal government. It needs to stop the stampede to give Bush a $700 billion check. Public hearings should be held to determine what alternatives might exist to the four-page proposal advanced by Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson.
2. Whatever is ultimately done, the bailout plan should not be insulated from judicial review. Remember there is a third co-equal branch of government - the judiciary. The judiciary does not need to review each buy-and-sell decision by the Treasury Department, but there should be some boundaries established to the Treasury Department's discretion, and judicial review is needed to ensure that unbridled discretion is not abused.
3. Sunlight is a good disinfectant. The bailout that is ultimately approved must provide for full and timely disclosure of all bailout details. This will discourage conflicts of interest and limit the potential of sweetheart deals.
4. Firms that accept government bailout monies must agree to disclose their transactions and be more honest in their accounting. They should agree to end off-the-books accounting maneuvers, for example.
5. Taxpayers must be protected by having a stake in any recovery. The bailout plan should provide opportunities for taxpayers to recoup funds that are made available to problem financial institutions or to benefit from the financial institutions' rising stock price and increased profitability after being bailed out.
6. The current so-called "regulators" cannot be trusted. The U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO), "the investigative arm of Congress" and "the congressional watchdog," must regularly review the bailout. We cannot trust the financial "regulators," who allowed the slide into financial disaster, to manage the bailout without outside monitoring.
7. It is time to put the federal cop back on the financial services beat. Strong financial regulations and independent regulators are necessary to rebuild trust in our financial institutions and to prevent further squandering of our tax dollars. The Justice Department and the SEC also need to scrutinize the expanding mess with an eye to uncovering corporate crime and misdeeds. Major news outlets are reporting that the FBI is investigating American International Group, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and Lehman Brothers.
8. Cap executive compensation and stop giving the Wall Street gamblers golden parachutes. The CEOs who have created the financial disaster should not be allowed to leave with millions in hand when so many pensioners and small shareholders are seeing their investments evaporate. The taxpayers are bailing out Wall Street so that the financial system continues to function, not to further enrich the CEOs and executives who created this mess.
9. Congress should pass the Financial Consumers' Information and Representation Act, to permit citizens to form a federally-chartered nonprofit membership organization to strengthen consumer representation in government proceedings that concern the financial services industry. As the savings and loan disasters of the 1980s and the Wall Street debacles of the last few years have demonstrated, there is an overriding need for consumers and taxpayers to have the organized means to enhance their influence on financial issues.
10. The repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, separating traditional banks from investment banks, helped pave the way for the current disaster. It is time to re-regulate the financial sector. The current crisis is also leading to even further conglomeration and concentration in the financial sector. We must revive and apply antitrust principles, so that banking consumers can benefit from competition and taxpayers are less vulnerable to too-big-to-fail institutions, merging with each other to further concentration.
11. Congress should impose a securities and derivatives speculation tax. A tax on financial trading would slow down the churning of stocks and financial instruments, and could raise substantial monies to pay for the bailout.
12. Regulators should impose greater margin requirements, making speculators use more of their own money and diminishing reckless casino capitalism.
Dear Sunlighter,
Today, the Sunlight Foundation is calling on Congress to
exercise restraint and increase legislative transparency by
posting the next version of the financial bailout legislation
online for at least 72 hours before bringing the bill to a vote.
We believe all legislation should be posted online for at 72 hours
before a vote to give lawmakers and citizens sufficient time to
review and debate it, and this bill is no exception.
That's why we just created a petition --
http://readthebillfirst.org -- that urges Congress to wait at
least until 72 hours after the publication of the next version
of this bill, before moving to a vote.
The failure of the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008
on Monday, September 29, 2008, is a case in point. The bill was
posted online late Sunday afternoon, and voted on less than 24
hours later.
This isn't a bill to rename a few courthouses; this bill is
Congress's biggest intervention in the economy in decades. This
important legislation deserved more time for public scrutiny.
Please join us in our call for legislative transparency by
signing the petition at http://readthebillfirst.org
You can review and comment on the Emergency Economic Stabilization
Act on PublicMarkup.org -- http://tinyurl.com/4q3zvn -- too.
Our Party Time site -- http://PoliticalPartyTime.org -- is also
doing its part to shine a light on how the financial sector is
wining and dining the very lawmakers in Congress who are making
the decisions about the most massive proposed bailout of
industry in history. Based on the anonymously submitted
invitations we've received, we now count 357 parties this year
planned for or featuring members of the two crucial committees
that are the first stops for considering the administration's
$700 billion bailout request for the financial sector. See the
full list of parties here: http://tinyurl.com/3htbev.
And be sure to check out our blog post here --
http://tinyurl.com/3lq3d7 -- about the finance industry's
investment over the past 18 years attempting to influence
Congress. The post includes a very cool interactive graph
showing their spending, and a YouTube tutorial video explaining
the graph.
Thanks for all that you do,
Gabriela Schneider & the Sunlight team
I think it's time to let the pie's fly!!! No one can be branded a terrorist for pie chucking. It's time to fling more pies in the faces of politicians, bankers, Wall street exec's, and reporters than ever before. Anyone who supports this grand theft should be pied immediately. Even Michael has a pie. Let em' fly. Micheal, film the pitiful pie faced politicians and give us a few laughs. I want to see Roy Blunt, Mitch McConnell, Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer, Harry Reid, and the rest of the goobers embarrassed on film. Let them know that they are not beyond our reach.
I've read elsewhere of others that think it's no coincidence that a lot of the "nays" in the vote yesterday were Republicans. Their assertion is that BushCo want this to fail so that the economy will go into freefall and they will have their October surprise early or a reason for Bush to make use of Directive 51 and decalare martial law. Any believers? I for one am skeptical, but less so after reading last week about the brigade that is being reassigned from Bagdad to the US. Posse Commitatus anyone?
I can get behind the Directive 51 theory. I think the coup may happen whether or not the bill passes... and this might end in the complete death of American Democracy, and institution of a fascist police state in America.
I can get behind that too. This feels like a trap, but I'm not astute enough to figure out how exactly. Feels like check & mate - either way it goes.
It IS a trap.
But the trap is financial and political -and very sneaky.
Crude schemes of "take over by force" would only destroy the more subtle control that is already weilded against us.
If the beery, football and NASCAR watching, truck and SUV driving, suburbanite pale-redneck masses were ever roused into action than the whole game would crumble.
A Government that allowed a bunch of greedy Wall Street-types to screw the "economy" and then imposed martial law on all the "average joes" who just wanted their paychecks safe in a bank so they could have a nice, consumerist Christmas, might be the only thing that COULD rouse them with any speed.
So no, they won't be trying it.
The problem with this concept is why exactly would a market meltdown translate into a need for martial law?
It would take a huge run on the banks, the failure of the FDIC, a complete lack of action by the Government AND -most essentially but least likely- some sort of major shortage on food and fuel right after the harvest and with the N. gas pipelines now repaired and plenty of (expensive) fuel oil in stock.
All of this would need to happen in the next 30 days or less for the kind of wide-scale rioting and chaos to erupt that would provide the excuse for martial law and/or the suspension of the election.
And even then what exactly is ONE brigade supposed to do? What is that, a couple thousand guys?
Look to police paramilitaries and the national guard for the imposition of martial law and don't bother looking for the suspension of the Elections.
That would be the beginning of the END of their control, which is best applied subtly and behind the scenes.
Don't Panic,
-matti.
The trap is the passage of this bill AFTER the elections, probably as some sort of rider slyly slipped into some "insignificant" legislation, something guaranteed to pass that will have a name like "No Child Left Behind!" that no member would dare vote nay on because they would be seen as anti-child...
The trap is this: if you owe the bank $70,000, then the bank owns you. If you owe the bank $70,000,000,000 (10% of the current proposal), then you own the bank. The US, We the People, are the bank, and we are "loaning" $700,000,000,000, or whatever the amount ends up being, (looks more impressive that way, than $700 billion) to the financial elite. And make no mistake, they WILL default and walk away laughing at us, the chumps, the taxpayers, the PEOPLE, all the way to their banks, probably the offshore branches so they don't have to pay any taxes.
"Watching C-Span yesterday morning was one of the best comedy shows I'd seen in ages."
Yes... 100+ Democrats tripping over each other in a desperate attempt to cram this travesty down our throats... just hilarity incarnate Michael.
"And guess what? That's exactly what Wall Street did! The largest, single-day drop in the Dow in the history of the New York Stock exchange."
Believe you might be uninformed. As a percent of the daily levels of investment measurement, it was only the 16th or 17th largest drop.
I find your assessment to be partisan in an attempt to shed favorable light on Obama. If you wanted me to believe that type of spin, then the acting on the part of 60% of the Democrats should have been better. It was MOORE OF THE SAME.
They are all to blame... and they will all screw us to appease their greedy masters... and the fact that they have been incommunicado for over 24 hours is just indicative of the levels they will stoop. Representation? Not likely in this day and age.
After two or three conditioning cycles, CheneyOilCo and buds will have their way with us.
I hate to be the one to point this out, but the Dow has never dropped 777 points in one day before, in its entire history. Thus, it was the largest, single-day drop in the Dow in the history of the New York Stock exchange.
So, Mr. Moore is, in fact, correct.
Again.
Actually, this is a tricksy-word thing.
The 778 point drop was the largest POINT drop ever in one day, yes.
But what ~toast~ was saying was that this was far from the largest PERCENTAGE drop ever. And that Micheal Moore was either confused or being purposely obscure when he just said "largest drop".
Add to all this the fact that the Dow ROSE 800-plus points last week (supposedly on the hope that this bill would pass) and this 778 point drop seems even less of a big deal.
Remember the Dow that just fell down into the 10,000s (before rallying today a bit) was in the 2,000s a decade ago. Are things so much better now then they were then?
These "indexes" and "averages" shouldn't be given so much importance.
Don't Panic,
-matti.
Thanks, you got it said for me.
Welcome.