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Petraeus Spin on IED War Belied by Soaring Casualties
WASHINGTON - Gen. David Petraeus claimed limited success this week in the war within a war over the Taliban's planting of roadside bombs, but official Pentagon data shows the Taliban clearly winning that war by planting more bombs and killing many more U.S. and NATO troops since the troop surge began in early 2010.
U.S. Marines carry an Afghan man, who lost both legs minutes earlier in an IED explosion, to a waiting U.S. Army Task Force Shadow rescue helicopter, west of Lashkar Gah, in southern Afghanistan, Sunday, Sept. 5, 2010. (AP Photo/Brennan Linsley) In an interview with the Wall Street Journal published Tuesday, Petraeus asserted that the use of improvised explosive devices (IEDs) by the Taliban had "flattened" over the past year and attributed that alleged success to pressures by the U.S. military, and especially the increased tempo of Special Operations Forces raids against Taliban units.
Data provided by the Pentagon's Joint IED Defeat Organization (JIEDDO), however, shows that IEDs planted by Afghan insurgents killed nearly 40 percent more U.S. and NATO troops in the first eight months of 2010 than in the comparable period of 2009.
The data also show that Taliban IEDs wounded 2,025 U.S. and NATO troops in the first eight months of this year - almost twice the 1,035 wounded in the same months last year.
In the Journal interview, Petraeus said that the data on violent incidents in Afghanistan indicate a slowly improving security situation.
Without putting his statement in quotation marks, Journal reporters Julian E. Barnes and Matthew Rosenberg reported Petraeus as claiming that the use of IEDs "has generally flattened in the past year". While crediting U.S. military operations with this alleged improvement, Petraeus said it is too soon to say that they are the sole reason for this alleged flattening of IED incidents.
But the data for 2009 and 2010 provide no support for Petraeus's "flattened" description.
The 12-month moving average of IED incidents, provided in a report in July by the Center for Strategic and International Studies on the basis of JIEDDO data, shows a continuing and sharp increase from 250 in June 2009 to more than 900 in May 2010, for an average increase per month of 54 incidents.
The total number of IED incidents in Afghanistan began to rise steeply in March 2010 to a new high of 1,087 and then continued to climb to 1,128 in May and again to 1,258 in August.
In a related effort to spin the IED issue more favourably to the war effort, Maj. Michael G. Johnson, a spokesman for the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) commanded by Petraeus, was quoted in a USA Today story published Tuesday as saying that there had been a "dip" in deaths and injuries from IEDs over the previous 12 weeks compared to the same period in 2009.
But the JIEDDO figures on deaths and injuries to U.S. and NATO forces from IEDs from June through August 2010 total 271 casualties - a 30 percent increase over the total for those months a year ago.
In response to a query from IPS, however, Johnson said he was including deaths and injuries to Afghan security personnel and civilians as well.
Killing and wounding foreign troops is generally understood to be the objective of the Taliban's IED war and the reduction of those casualties is the objective of Petraeus's command.
Petraeus had previously been more cautious about claiming success in the IED war. In an interview with Spencer Ackerman of the website Danger Room Aug. 18, Petraeus only referred to growing pressures on the Taliban organising for IEDs from both U.S. intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance systems and from SOF units.
But when Ackerman pointed out that IED attacks were rising, Petraeus asserted that the increase could be because U.S. and coalition forces are "on the offensive...taking away areas that matter to the enemy, safe havens and sanctuaries."
Challenged by Ackerman on an interpretation that turned an obvious indicator of a failing war effort into an indicator of progress, however, Petraeus retreated, saying, "That's fair enough."
Both the Ackerman interview and Johnson's statement illustrate the Petraeus tactic of making statements that mislead by omission or tendentious interpretation rather than making statements that could be proven false.
The Petraeus statement to the Journal about "flattened" IED figures, however, appears to go beyond that tactic.
The JIEDDO data on IED incidents by month also provides evidence that the U.S. and NATO forces have failed to win the trust of the population in the Pashtun provinces where the Taliban have been strongest. The JIEDDO figures show that the proportion of IEDs turned in by the population has continued to fall with each passing year since the NATO military buildup in Pashtun areas began in 2006.
In late 2005, the civilian population was informing U.S. and NATO troops of about 15 percent of of all IEDs planted. That proportion fell to just over nine percent in 2006, to less than seven percent in 2007 to about three percent in 2008, and again to 2.8 percent in 2009.
In the first six months of 2010, that ratio dropped to 2.6 percent, and in May and June it fell to 1.4 and one percent, respectively.
A paper by four authors, including former Petraeus adviser David Kilcullen, published by the pro-war Center for New American Security in June 2009 highlighted the importance of the proportion of IEDs turned in by the population as an indicator of good relations between U.S. and NATO military units and the local population.
A rise in the proportion of IEDs found and cleared, especially because of tips from the population, would be a "sign of progress", the authors concluded.
The head of JIEDDO, Lt. Gen. Michael Oates, appears to agree with that analysis. In an interview with USA Today published last March, Oates said winning the trust of the Afghan population is "a key ingredient" in protecting U.S. troops from IEDs.
The steep decline in the proportion of IEDs turned in by the population as more U.S. and NATO troops intruded on the Pashtun countryside is another reliable indicator - supporting opinion surveys in Helmand and Kandahar provinces - of the deterioration of relations between foreign troops and the population.
Gareth Porter is an investigative historian and journalist specialising in U.S. national security policy. The paperback edition of his latest book, "Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam", was published in 2006.
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Show AllA general lying about the "status" of war??? Does a wild bear shit in the woods????
Goodness gracious! One of our noble military leaders lying to the public about a losing war? How could that be? This has never before happened in US history.
In a related story, the pentagon has announced that General Betrayus is the recipient of this year's Westmoreland Award (the "Westy") for honor and integrity in war reporting.
Where do you think they got the term GENERAL FUCK UP from?
Muy divertido; si, the deadly fascist puppets just change places ! By controlling the msm the parade of mass murderers continue to carry out amerikas terrorism against the World !
siempre por Paz, tioche, Mexico
As far as Petraeus is concerned, your are watching the birth of a future double talking politicain as it happens! As long as we have not only special ops forces but regular troops who kill Afghani citizens for fun and sport, our efforts to win hearts and minds is doomed to failure! And bin-Laden is somewhere laughing his ass off, yelling we win!
From the commander in chief on down, these buzzards are all propagandist liars.
tenthers
So where does the federal government draw its power to do more than make war, money, and roads? It's very simple to answer that question, as the rarely quoted Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution gives the federal government the power to do what is "necessary and proper" to promote the "general welfare and common defense" of the United States.
I don't know how anyone can believe anything coming out of Washington no matter which political party is in control.
I think all he said was it has been "Flattening out".
He could mean that the recent increases this month have flattened out.
Nothing to brag about for sure just probably the spin he could prove but not proving what he intended of trying to make a bad thing look better.
The military can't win modern war anymore and they know it.
"The military can't win modern war anymore and they know it."
Only a few of them know it. However, it makes no difference to any of them because the ultimate object is to become a five star general. Who cares what the war is. In the military, you make your bones in war and that's how you move up the ladder and prove your manhood. Although it's safe to say that what the military hates most is nuclear weapons because they doomed conflagrations like World War II.
Petraeus' problem is that there is no smoke to hide his lies behind, only indifference . . . which means there is no problem, for him at least.
didnt all these guy sign up for war? how about more stories about those affected who did not, on both sides !
Well at least Moveon.org had his name right. General Betray Us!
MoveOn.org is a joke.
They like Obama.
Enough said.
The sad reality of the Obomber war crimes "surge" in Afghanistan is that more American troops means more targets.
This is a very high price to pay in American and Afghan lives so Big Oil can run pipelines through Afghanistan and market Cental Asian oil and gas throughout Asia, with India as a primary consumer.
But if the roads in Afghanistan are not safe, how will they protect pipelines from sabotage ? The Pashtuns we have been killing are in this for the long haul, a resistance that will go on more or less forever.
What is playing out in Pipelineistan is the old Neocon (once called "the crazies") plan of establishing global corporate hegemony over international markets to generate 21st century profits for some of the largest corporations on earth.
While the American economy and energy consumption are in decline due to the cost of the corporate imperial energy wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Big Oil has their sights set on global markets as a way to continue to expand profits.
But:
"Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell."
Edward Abbey
Can you imagine the appearance of a FIVE-STAR General on a golf course today?
He would go down in history as a true Corporate War Hero.
Oh, and a Press Hero as well.
"The refuge of the morally, intellectually, artistically and economically bankrupt is war."-Martin H. Fischer [Nov. 10, 1879-Jan. 19, 1962], German-born American physician and author
"Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." Excellent quote, Edward.
During the Vietnam War General William Westmoreland lied about Viet Cong troop strength and the number of Viet Cong killed by Amerikkkan forces. Just as Westmoreland before him, Patraeus can't resist lying about troops killed by IED and other failures of his command. More troops is always the solution these psychopaths have for winning unwinable and criminal wars.
War is good business. Invest your sons and daughters.
With all the technology and investigative reporting, why would any general stoop to lying about deaths from IEDs?
No one is buying anything he says anyway.
Maybe a high percentage of CD readers are not buying it, but the majority of Americans are buying it, if not, there would be a national outrage and our troops, mercenaries and contractors would leave Afghanistan.
Why not? They spend their time buying useless crap anyway.
But don't forget that Hitler, Goebbels and SOME of the German generals kept on proclaiming publicly that the Russian army was defeated at Stalingrad (later they called it "tragic"), Moscow and Leningrad till the end of 1944 at least -- even while the the population could get umpteen radio news reports on what really happened. The worse things go the the lies get bigger and more stupid.
Gonzo..
""Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell."
Edward Abbey"
A terryfying truth. The mindless parasite eating its host until there is no host left to eat.
Like humans intending to pollute (including through wars) Earth's water, air and soil, which continues to allow the spread of 'we the people', until Earth becomes a wasteland.
The parasites have eaten their host.
Mmm. I don't think that some of the Powerful Elite of the world (not merely america) would like this to happen. Fewer people would of a surety help. A lot 'fewer'.
But we all know this. The VAST majority of us, however, are not part of the P.E. and we get a little edgy. Naturally enough. Especially as it all 'sounds' so rational.
We prefer the idea of 'sink or swim together' I think. No matter how perverse of us that may sound!
~sc
Remember: there's a light at the end of the tunnel?
Also, let us remember what they also said during the Vietnam conflict and that is that victory was [allegedly] right around the corner. One suspects that the Afghans might have something to say about that.
I think it is most important to remember: that the really important question about this War or any War is not whether or not one side is winning or losing,
but whether or not either side has a legitmate right to be fighting.
AMERIKA has no moral right or reason to make war. Amerika makes war to allow MIC elites to make profit. Stop Killing, Stop Killing innocent people! Get out of other peoples countries and cultures!
Period and PERIOD and .... And !
What we need now is a healthy dose of isolationism.
It is sad that so many have given so much for this democracy in name only. das vedanya comrade
Quite an impressive load of newspeak from the organization most responsible for nuclear proliferation on this planet.
I close my eyes. I try to conjure a vision. A vision of pussies with guns. Wait...wait. The spots before my closed eyes are arranging themselves to form an image. There it is. The US military.
Remember during the Iraq war when that Iraqi General ( I do not remember his name ) said something to the effect that we are winning the war and the American troops were right down the street. I guess all Generals are the same.
Lying for personal or political gain is dishonorable. The difficulty of the circumstance is not justification for lying. Calling a lie propaganda does not excuse it. Dishonorable acts dishonor the person.
Afghans--Rise up and defend your land from those Westerners who occupy it.
This article is smoke to hide the fire. The matter lies beyond passionate, civilised discussion. Even the assertions of concern for US troops is so much smoke. Truth is US people think the soldiers are failures and stupid. Myths of their heroism are the same smoke but seen from another point in the fire. It is an open secret that Petreaus and his compatriots are naught but devious, little, fanged snakes; that the all clustered in and around the Pentagon is feeding the fire, while turning, cooking and gleefully eating the pieces they eagerly carve off the squealing pig we know as the USA.
The huge bloody blaze is the US involvement in a war of childish stupidity. The matter is psychopathic stuff, complete with messianic or individualistic delusions, weapon-glee, and baldly fabricated eagerly believed stories of looming threat from others based on the whole manipulative fucking heroic lie from the beginning.
The many of John Wayne, Sylvester Stallone-----Hollywood, the stories the lot,----excuse the retching.
This is madness gentlemen. The entire population of the USA is off its head. The sane ones are already elsewhere, and have been for a long time.
What a disgusting mess! In reality the soldiers and their victims are the victims of the US middle class and the arses it duplicitously licks in 'freedom' that allows, studies, works for and invests in the hive of systematic mayhem revolving around that infinite regression of greed and conceit called the USA. Thinking about it makes it clear the many headed monster is eating and tearing at its own guts.
Stop it; no, not the war stupid; the USA. Take it off the fire and bury it. Allow its piglets freedom, each in its own place. The size of the big pig is its weakness. Any who do not see the pressing need are of the kind who try to reason with a rapist as he has a go at their daughters. This kind squeals but allows it because he wants a go too.
This imagery is not misplaced. The violence the US is indulging in is clearly pornographic. The loud squeals of protest coming from US citizens are made with one opportunistic eye on the action.
"Chelsey September 11th, 2010 5:51 pm
MoveOn.org is a joke.
They like Obama.
Enough said."
No, not really..Unless you are separating him from the other corrupted politicians... however :
I found these words of Obama...spoken very strongly, and with a certain amount of 'passion', daring. I would say he is Muslim, at heart.
"As Americans we are not - and never will be - at war with Islam... It was not a religion that attacked us that day - it was al-Qaeda, a sorry band of men which perverts religion."
We know, or it would be good if we did, that Islam speaks very, very, very highly of Jesus (and never speak his name -to the muslim he is one of the 'very greatest prophets' - without adding 'peace be upon him'... He was born of Mary, the virgin, and so on... In the story that we call The Bible.
Just saying : Moveon.org (or any other forum giving 'news AND views) is a joke BECAUSE 'they like obama' is not very fruitful. It is really NOT a case of 'enough said', I don't think.
Gorse :
"Gorsegrower September 11th, 2010 9:41 pm
What we need now is a healthy dose of isolationism."
I would say that many millions of people outside America would agree with that! "Isolate yourself, America."
Many a time, for a long time now, long before Iraq, I have wondered why America doesn't close in on itself.. It has all it could wish for, for its own Society.. a bountiful land. And, it could control the population, in ways that would not harm the general good.
~sc
"Peterpeacenik September 11th, 2010 3:02 am
I think it is most important to remember: that the really important question about this War or any War is not whether or not one side is winning or losing,
but whether or not either side has a legitmate right to be fighting.
AMERIKA has no moral right or reason to make war. Amerika makes war to allow MIC elites to make profit. Stop Killing, Stop Killing innocent people! Get out of other peoples countries and cultures!
Period and PERIOD and .... And !
Nothing to do with 'morality' (the rulers decide what is to be considered 'moral' and what is not)...
It has to do with the human make-up.. it were ever thus. We WON'T keep out of other countries and the dumb majority DON'T like other cultures... And never did.
~sc
Now and then, it is good to be reminded, for those who hate Islam, but know nothing about it... :
"In Islam, Jesus (Arabic: عيسى عليه السلام, Nabi Isa) is considered to be a Messenger of God who was sent to guide the People of Israel (banī isrā'īl) with a new scripture, the Injīl or Gospel.[1]
The Qur'an, considered by Muslims to be God's final and authoritative revelation to humankind, mentions Jesus twenty-five times.[2] It states that Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Allah). To aid in his ministry to the Jewish people, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles, all by the permission of God rather than his own power."
From : 'Jesus in Islam'...
~sc